The 2nd Monitor

Hosch250

20:00

2

1

6

3

Mast

@200_success I can make you an MCVE JSFiddle. That doesn't make it code in use.

Ethan Bierlein

ELECTION HAS BEGUN

2

Captain Obvious

1

Q: Python Script to Create Android/iOS Strings from a .csv

Hey guys I'm relatively new to python so was looking for some feedback. My script takes a csv file of strings and then creates an xml file for Android and a .strings file to be used for iOS. It separates each locale meaning that a file will be created for each language. This has come in handy s...

Mast

@Hosch250 You're messing with us.

Simon André Forsberg

@200_success @Mast wrote that one, not me. It might be more of an example project than example code. I started writing "This might be considered example code" but changed to something else when I noticed @Mast also had posted. Then I got a bit furious about the user using it as a close reason...

EBrown

20:00

And I voted for everyone.

Hosch250

I voted for my three.

Simon André Forsberg

@200_success I found it grey enough to post the kind of comment I did.

Mat's Mug

election began

just now

Simon André Forsberg

I considered it a very dark grey.

EBrown

Already voted @Mat'sMug. Where were you?

Mast

20:02

@EBrown That ^^

All of us have been long done with voting.

Now we just need to wait a week to see the results.

Donald.McLean

Voted.

Hosch250

4 days.

Mast

Get some stats. Make some graphs.

@Hosch250 Good!

Hosch250

election ends

in 4 days

Mast

Reading is difficult.

EBrown

20:03

Pretty much done for the day now.

I should get "Constituent" from this.

Hosch250

Mine isn't coming in.

Mat's Mug

@EBrown voting.. from my phone

Hosch250

I hope we didn't vote so soon it doesn't count.

maaartinus

@SimonAndréForsberg Nice. I sort of copied it and I'm using it for a gomoku like-game. This copying is ugly. My stupid AI works for it without any changes, just much worse as the number of possibilities is much higher.

Simon André Forsberg

Where's that "submit" button for voting?

Mast

20:04

@Hosch250 Blame caching

@SimonAndréForsberg There is none.

Simon André Forsberg

@Mat'sMug don't misclick!

Caridorc

@SimonAndréForsberg auto-submit at the end

Mast

You have till the end of election to change it.

Mat's Mug

@SimonAndréForsberg no worries ;)

Hosch250

Yep.

Simon André Forsberg

20:05

Soo... my vote is submitted now? I expected some notification that said "Thanks for voting!"

EBrown

Well I did my duty.

Voted for my three people.

Hosch250

Haven't you ever voted in an election before, @SimonAndréForsberg?

I have two SO elections under my belt.

Mast

codereview.stackexchange.com/help/badges/85/constituent

Simon André Forsberg

I have, but it was a long time ago.

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg There was, on the right side of your screen in a blue box.

EBrown

20:06

@Mast Holy smokes.

Hosch250

Only 45 times.

EBrown

There's only ever been one election, no?

Caridorc

0

Q: Python Script to Create Android/iOS Strings from a .csv

Hey guys I'm relatively new to python so was looking for some feedback. My script takes a csv file of strings and then creates an xml file for Android and a .strings file to be used for iOS. It separates each locale meaning that a file will be created for each language. This has come in handy s...

python csv

Hosch250

I know 11 of them.

Caridorc

Is this off-topic?

The OP used the ++var idiom

But maybe it is just a bug

Hosch250

20:08

> ++ does nothing twice

Hehe.

Mast

I've never seen such code in Python before indeed.

Caridorc

Maybe I should retract the close vote and signal that as a bug?

Simon André Forsberg

@Caridorc I don't know enough Python to say anything about that.

Phrancis

Election has begun!

14

Caridorc

@SimonAndréForsberg ++var is equal to no-op; no-op; var in Python

200_success

20:09

@Caridorc I'd consider that a valid answer.

EBrown

@Phrancis Old news.

Caridorc

Perfect, retracting close vote

Ethan Bierlein

@Caridorc Already answered with a comment about that.

Mat's Mug

@EBrown for some values of "old" ;-)

EBrown

@Mat'sMug Old = 1 minute +/- 50%

How's that?

Mast

20:11

@EthanBierlein See, you can write full answers :-)

Nice one.

Mat's Mug

64 voters so far

Phrancis

@EBrown Just wanted to update the pinned link :)

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast Thanks!

EBrown

There should be more votes than that by now.

Someone with teh powah could edit the description of the room to include it.

Mat's Mug

@EBrown nah.. pinned msg is good enough

Mast

20:12

@EBrown It's pinned. It will stick to the star wall for what, 2 weeks?

EBrown

Ah, nifty.

Phrancis

@Mast Yup

Ethan Bierlein

@Mast 4 Days

I would assume, at least.

Caridorc

@EthanBierlein all meningful ponits in your answer by the way, +1

Hosch250

Removing it can be the new mods first job.

2

Ethan Bierlein

20:12

@Caridorc Thanks!

EBrown

Can someone relink that python topic?

Need to +1 it.

Ethan Bierlein

2

Q: Python Script to Create Android/iOS Strings from a .csv

Hey guys I'm relatively new to python so was looking for some feedback. My script takes a csv file of strings and then creates an xml file for Android and a .strings file to be used for iOS. It separates each locale meaning that a file will be created for each language. This has come in handy s...

python beginner csv i18n

Mast

@EBrown Learn to scroll :P

Hosch250

I'm still recognizing a lot of the voters.

EBrown

@Mast Some people were camping it, easier to have them link it. :)

Mast

20:13

Most are regulars or mods on some other site.

Hosch250

Several came over from the Tavern.

EBrown

Well this is CodeReview's first real election, no?

Mast

@EBrown Yes.

EBrown

That makes it a significant landmark.

Mast

Graduation Party!

EBrown

20:14

People want to be a part of history.

Caridorc

I think the downvote on the that post should be retracted, it's perfectly on-topic

EBrown

@Mast I never had one of those.

Simon André Forsberg

@Hosch250 or they'll delegate it to one of the many existing room owners

Mast

@EBrown Neither had I, it's what you get for taking longer than you should.

EBrown

@Mast I graduated on time, just wasn't popular so I said to hell with a grad party.

200_success

20:15

Somehow I don't feel that publicizing one's vote is quite appropriate.

2

EBrown

@200_success Indeed. It's a bit of a snipe and that message should not be here.

Hosch250

Me either. Sorry.

Mast

@200_success Indeed.

Hosch250

There, that better? It wasn't my vote anyway.

EBrown

@Mast Glad I'm not the only one who uses "indeed".

200_success

20:16

Thanks.

Mast

@EBrown I may have been watching Teal'c too much.

EBrown

@Mast Myself as well. I love that series.

I've watched it, probably 10 times through, from start to finish.

That and MacGyver.

Simon André Forsberg

@rolfl Speaking of bad messages...

Mast

And a bunch of similar series, yea.

Simon André Forsberg

EBrown

20:18

I've seen all the Stargate's.

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg Oh, that's evil.

Simon André Forsberg

What did the "S" in STV stand for again? :)

Mast

Could you make it a meta on main?

Hosch250

Single

Simon André Forsberg

I believe @rolfl already has a meta about the wording, this could be added to that.

Hosch250

20:19

Transferable

Mast

Have at it and post your answer in chat, please :)

Simon André Forsberg

How about "You have chosen your second preference, you have 1 preference remaining"?

Mast

Too difficult for the average internet user I'm afraid.

200_success

Speaking of which… I'm going to cheat on the July STV community-challenge and pimp an old answer:

13

A: Complex query to count votes with a redistribution system

Your query is simultaneously awful and awesome. It is truly impressive, especially if you are self-taught. Unfortunately, I don't believe it is correct. (Or, I may have misunderstood how you intended for the vote redistribution scheme to work.) For example, it reports that the redistribution ...

EBrown

@Mast We're supposed to assume SE/SO/CR users are not the average internet user.

Mast

20:20

@EBrown CR, yes. SO, well...

3

200_success

@RenéNyffenegger Welcome!

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Extension pattern in a flask controller using importlib

I am trying to load a module according to some settings. I have found a working solution but I need a confirmation from an advanced python developer that this solution is the best performance wise as the API endpoint which will use it will be under heavy load. The idea is to change the working o...

python flask

Mast

Have you seen the amount of rubbish coming by lately?

At SO, that is.

EBrown

@Mast I have, I still hold out faith that the internet isn't just a bunch of trolls/idgits.

Ismael Miguel

Idgits?

EBrown

20:21

Like idiots only "Bobby Singer'd".

Ismael Miguel

Who?

EBrown

Supernatural?

The series?

Ismael Miguel

What about them?

Mast

Many SO questions are 'aye dee ten tee' errors.

EBrown

Jensen Ackles? Jared Padalecki?

Bobby Singer always calls Sam and Dean a bunch of "idgits."

Ismael Miguel

20:22

I never remember the names of the characters in the series

Any serie

EBrown

Bobby Singer, the old fat guy?

Mast

101 voters so far.

Ismael Miguel

The one that was helping them?

EBrown

Yeah. The guy they always called being "FBI" or whatever.

He had the junkyard.

Phrancis

@200_success That's a really thorough answer, however I had already upvoted it long ago :)

Ismael Miguel

20:23

I think my poor memory is working

And it hurts

EBrown

@200_success I'll save that vote for when you "pimp" it.

Donald.McLean

That will have to do, I guess.

EBrown

Ugh

Department meeting in 6 minutes.

Not going to be fun.

Undo

grumble grumble too many good choices

6

EBrown

I voted for everyone.

Mast

20:26

@Undo We kind of aimed for that.

EBrown

Then I moved my votes around until I liked them.

Mast

@EBrown You're taking the T in STV way too literal.

2

EBrown

Every single person on that board had my first choice at a certain, given, moment in time.

And yes. I like that T bit.

Mat's Mug

@Mast 113. I think the badges are awarded in batches

EBrown

Code review should graduate on it's fifth birthday, methinks.

Simon André Forsberg

20:28

Thank you for the confidence, @EBrown, no matter how short that confidence may have lasted.

EBrown

@SimonAndréForsberg Absolutely! Everyone had all three of my choices, you were at one point First, then Second, then Third. (I think you actually might have been Third then First then Second then surprise.)

I don't remember, cba to go look.

Mast

@Mat'sMug Yea, caching.

Simon André Forsberg

@EBrown Technically, we graduated on my birthday.

41

Q: Code Review Graduation

I am pleased to announce that effective from September 22, Code Review has graduated! It has taken a bit of time for this announcement to filter through the red tape, so, today was the day we found out. Let's use this as a place to discuss, celebrate, and otherwise commiserate. Notes: Code Rev...

discussion beta-progress

EBrown

@SimonAndréForsberg Damn, I had hoped it could be on it's fifth.

Simon André Forsberg

When everything will be applied though, we will see.

EBrown

20:30

Anyway, TTGTDM.

(Time to go to Department Meeting)

Simon André Forsberg

This election is the first time we've heard about "graduating" since September...

EBrown

And then TTGH.

Simon André Forsberg

@EBrown you're making me start to wonder why I invented those abbreviations...

3

EBrown

Well, hopefully this election is a sign that the design is near finalizing, and that SE is getting ready to drop the beta.

@SimonAndréForsberg I can go even more overboard with them, if you prefer.

Anyway, catch you all later. :) Have fun everyone! Enjoy the weekend!

Mat's Mug

@EBrown I still think the biggest roadblock in finalizing our design, is that the design team has no frakkin' idea of what design elements would best fit "Code Review"

Caridorc

20:33

@Mat'sMug a magnifying glass would be a nice logo in my opinion.

Phrancis

Malachi

@Mat'sMug @SimonAndréForsberg you guys opposed to moving messages to the election chatroom? I was about to move them but figured I would ask

200_success

@EBrown Umm… sure, if you want to be optimistic.

Phrancis

I hate regex :\

4

Why does the long line include the whole line, but the last line doesn't?

Mast

2 days ago, by Mast

Anyway, TTGTMBILBP

Simon André Forsberg

20:36

@Malachi not really opposed to it, but not pushing much for it either. It's quite natural that there's election talk here too.

FreeMan

@Mast why was I able to decipher that?

Mast

@FreeMan May have seen it before?

Or

Great minds think alike.

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis honestly, good question... I think that .*\W is an odd one though...

Undo

I personally wouldn't start trying to micromanage where messages are. If a big drawn-out conversation about the election starts, move it, but don't move every little thing about it

6

FreeMan

@Mast Not sure

or

possibly

Mast

20:37

@Undo Stargreed.

Simon André Forsberg

@Undo @Malachi should (and probably will) also star that.

Malachi

@SimonAndréForsberg true. I just saw that there was talk about a python question and it needed to be relinked in chat. figured we could move election stuff there.

@SimonAndréForsberg if I wasn't out of stars already....

6

FreeMan

@Malachi Too busy shooting stars?

Mast

Not sure if I got any left.

Undo

I have never run out of stars. No idea how you folks do it :P

6

Mast

20:39

no clue

<insert clue here>

3

Or, C++ style: *clue

3

Warning: NullPointerReference

Undo

ProTip: You can fake the POST request to vote for someone who isn't actually running.

Ethan Bierlein

Warning: StarLimitReached

Undo

So in theory we could re-elect @rolfl

2

readysetgo

Ethan Bierlein

@Undo "In theory"

FreeMan

@Undo I've watched a lot of Top Gear. I read that as readysteadygo, even though that's clearly not what you said.

Malachi

20:42

@Undo lol

Mast

@Undo So it's also possible to give somebody your first, second and third choice?

Phrancis

@Malachi star-bait

Undo

@Mast Not sure about that

STV wouldn't like it, at least

Mast

That would totally break the system, indeed.

Undo

okay, who's starring everything?

Malachi

20:43

@Phrancis some of you run on Caffeine, but I run on stars!

Hosch250

@Mast That wouldn't be any different than just having a first choice.

Mast

@Hosch250 Indeed. But the system isn't build on everybody only having a first choice.

Hosch250

Exactly.

Undo

@Mast you cannot hide

Hosch250

Giving someone your first, second, and third choice wouldn't be any different, though, so don't try.

Malachi

20:45

@Caridorc is that python question off-topic? should I close it or not?

Vogel612

@Phrancis make it \w++ instead of .*

also it includes the whole line because of the punctuation end

Hosch250

@EthanBierlein Don't worry about Q: codereview.stackexchange.com/help/badges/85/…

Donald.McLean

@Malachi is there an pet site we can move it to?

Mast

I'm too busy scaring my wife with my remote hoisting crane.

IoT FTW

@Hosch250 I was wondering if he was still around.

Hosch250

And, he's still hitting the queues.

Malachi

20:46

@Donald.McLean I haven't seen one yet. but I haven't been looking either...

Hosch250

200_success

@Mast That would be self-defeating. You only get one vote anyway. The second and third choices are supposed to do you a favour by automatically transferring your vote as appropriate.

Mast

@200_success I know. But it would also break the system by modifying the amount of votes necessary to reach the treshold.

Simon André Forsberg

@Mast I don't think that's really "breaking".

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg Well, if it would happen frequent enough, it would result in unlikely voting graphs.

close enough.

Captain Obvious

20:57

0

Q: MVC4 Approach to Checking Authorization after POST

I have a very simple form that is designed to update account expiration dates. I'm currently creating a View Model and sending that to the form, however, I still have to pass along a GUID so I know what object is being referenced on POST back. What I'm worried about it is someone altering the g...

asp.net-mvc-4

Mat's Mug

@undo out-of-stars

Simon André Forsberg

So many users that I've barely seen before... I really wonder how they're voting.

200_success

The primary results looked reasonable enough.

Simon André Forsberg

true that.

Phrancis

@Vogel612 /(MONK|Monk|monk)\w+/g did the trick, thank you :)

Hosch250

21:03

Lots of people I know/have seen in there.

159 badges.

@rolfl hasn't voted, that I've seen.

Vogel612

@Phrancis you understand why?

btw. that also matches "Monk"

Phrancis

sorts of

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Matrix struct with random values allocation and deallocation

I've written this code in 2013 or 2014, I think. I've rediscovered it today in one of my folders, made some changes and now I'm left (and my 2013/2014 me as well) wondering how good it looks for other C programmers. It's a simple dummy program that reads N and M from stdin, then creates a matri...

c

Mast

I hate JS.

Mat's Mug

8 mins ago, by Mat's Mug

@undo out-of-stars

Malachi

21:06

▲▲▲ ditto

Mat's Mug

quite a bunch are also earning a Caucus badge - I think the actual elections end up even bigger than the primaries :)

(see "recent badges")

Vogel612

it's 163 awarded constituent badges

these are the actual votes...

Caridorc

@Malachi it is on topic, it just has a big bug, keep open.

Malachi

@Caridorc I voted to keep open. I remembered part of the conversation. thank you.

Caridorc

@Malachi you're welcome.

rolfl

21:11

@Hosch250 Right, been out of town driving there and back for the past 10 hours.

Just walked back in to the house ;0

Hosch250

OK.

Mast

171 votes

I'm on the verge of posting a SO question.

Darn.

rolfl

Right.... it sucks I have only one vote...... and can split it only 3 ways....

Mast

@rolfl No splitting, just transferring at overflow.

rolfl

Bit sad that I will be so far down the constituent awards list .... but, I am at least due for it now.

@Mast It gets split, then the split part is transferred

I am very aware of how it works.

Mat's Mug

21:15

hey it looks like all candidates earned an extra point in their candidate score - that makes @Jamal a 39/40!

Mast

@rolfl You got a flow chart with that?

Since I don't understand it.

Mat's Mug

@Mast TS

Mast

@Mat'sMug hint Badge hint

rolfl

If the candidate you vote for first, is elected right away, and the trheshold was 80, and he got 100 votes......

Mast

@rolfl Then the remaining 20 will be transferred.

Yes.

Right?

Hosch250

21:17

Nope.

rolfl

then 20% of everyone's vote who voted for him is split off, so that he has exactly what is needed.

Hosch250

That ^

rolfl

So, your vote of 1.0 is now 0.8 for him.

the remaining 0.2 of your vote is traansferred to your second choice.

Mat's Mug

</headsplode>

that actually makes sense

what's the threshold?

Hosch250

What I don't know, is what happens if you only pick a second or third choice?

rolfl

21:18

if your second choice is also elected, then, the amount of excess vote is then split off again, and transferred to your third choice.

Mast

@rolfl Ah, that actually influences the score.

Hosch250

@Mat'sMug (votes - excess) / (seats + 1)

Jamal

:D
Now I just need Marshal...

Hosch250

@Jamal You should resign in the middle of the year, get Marshall, and run again.

So, what happens if I only pick a second choice? Does it count as just a first choice, or doesn't it count at all?

Jamal

No, thanks. I can at least embrace my Marshals on SO, MSE, and Arqade.

rolfl

21:20

You have marshall on arquade?

Gotta run, cheers till morning.

out agaain

Jamal

@rolfl NAA's pretty much fall like rain on that site.

Mast

@rolfl He has had that one for quite some time

Phrancis

Haven't seen this much buzz in chat since the holiday hats!

Simon André Forsberg

21:35

@Hosch250 it counts as the first choice

Mat's Mug

TTGH, laters CRitters!

Phrancis

@Mat'sMug Later gator!

Mast

There's no on-topic business going on, right?

So it's totally legit to sneak in a link to an SO question without being branded a help vampire, right?

Simon André Forsberg

21:50

@Mast 408 Question Timeout (in other words, no)

@Mast 200 OK

Mast

On a more on-topic note: 208 voters

@SimonAndréForsberg HTTP badass

0

Q: Server lost it's property

My Node.JS HTTP server handles a GET request with JSON query by invoking runNextMethod. This function gets url_parsed.query as argument. function runNextMethod(query) { if(nextMethodIndex<methodOrder.length) { var func = myDict[myList[nextMethodIndex]]; console.log("Nex...

javascript node.js http

Simon André Forsberg

Maybe some day I should only write in HTTP status codes.

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg I'd prefer Brainfuck over HTTP status codes any day.

Hosch250

@Mast 210

Simon André Forsberg

@Mast ~~Maybe some day I should only write in Brainfuck code~~ ain't gonna happen

@Hosch250 suddenly I thought that was a HTTP status code

Mast

21:53

@SimonAndréForsberg There's an international 'Talk like a pirate day'

My glass is still half full.

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Draw editable angles

One of the first things I did when I learned Objective-C was to create a little canvas with editable angles. Basically, you tap to create points. Every tap connects to the previous tap. So if you tap in 2 spots, a line will be drawn from point 1 to point 2. Tap again, and a line will be drawn fro...

algorithm objective-c ios

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg HTTP 210 doesn't exist.

Simon André Forsberg

@Mast Unfortunately, I don't speak Node.JS

Mast

@SimonAndréForsberg It's probably not Node.JS specific.

I hate JS.

But I think I've stated that quite often already.

I'm rebuilding my current server from scratch because it won't handle the timeout correctly for some reason. Now I'm dealing with scope issues like these.

Hosch250

I should write a browser addon that supports running C# in the browser like JS.

Mast

21:55

@Hosch250 You should totally do that.

You could probably crowdfund it.

Hosch250

I don't think JS is compiled, though, I think it just runs like Python.

C# is compiled, and that would be more expensive.

Mast

@Hosch250 It runs like Java.

It's JIT afaik.

Malachi

TTGH

Mast

Node.JS is worse, it's event driven.

Hosch250

@Mast With Java, you take your source code and compile it. The JVM runs the compiled file.

Mast

21:57

That's like async, but without the good parts of async.

@Hosch250 Allright, then Java is like Python and JS is utter bull.

Hosch250

I thought JS and Python were interpreted, or something.

Mast

I mean, I can do parallel processing. VHDL is parallel. 200 things at a time, no problem. Just make sure you know IN WHAT ORDER THEY HAPPEN!

Phrancis

JS is not compiled, I think you're right in saying it's interpreted. IDK about Python though.

Mast

In Node.JS, no such thing.

@Phrancis Python is interpreted, but all libraries are compiled.

That's why you usually debug your Python on the second run, not on the first.

Phrancis

TTQW!

Hosch250

22:00

I knew Python wasn't compiled, because using an undefined variable is a runtime error, not a compile time error.

Mast

@Phrancis It's 00:00 here ^^

@Hosch250 Very good!

Hosch250

So, continuing with C# in the browser, if I was to let it be like JS - just stick your code in, I'd need to compile it, then run it like Java.

Quill

Monking

Mast

@Hosch250 Nothing wrong with compiling, right?

SirPython

Monking, @Quill.

Hosch250

22:03

If I wanted to do it a bit easier, I could just stick the EXE in and run that, displaying the output in a window like Java.

Mast

Compile it first, sort it out later.

Hosch250

@Mast I prefer compiling.

Mast

As do I.

Hosch250

So, do I stick the raw code in, or make the user compile it and load the exe in?

Mast

@Phrancis You have weekend every 15 days?

Poor @Phrancis

Phrancis

22:04

for (i = 1; i <= 100; i++) {
  if (i % (3*5) = 0) { print 'WEEKEND' }
  else if (i % 3) = 0) { print 'WEEK' }
  else if (i % 5) = 0) { print 'END' }
  else { print i }
}

Nah, just a quick warm-up fizzbuzz for the weekend :)

Hosch250

@Phrancis Where's your semi-colons?

Phrancis

Not needed in Groovy ;)

Later @ all

Mast

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis shouldn't that be println instead of print ?

Mast

TTGTB

Alarm goes in 7 hours or so.

Phrancis

22:21

@SimonAndréForsberg Ah you're right, the way I wrote would print 12WEEK4ENDWEEK78WEEKEND11WEEK1314WEEKEND...

Captain Obvious

1

Q: The Geppy String: Regex vs Iteration

We'll say that a lowercase 'g' in a string is "happy" if there is another 'g' immediately to its left or right. Return true if all the g's in the given string are happy. gHappy("xxggxx") → true gHappy("xxgxx") → false gHappy("xxggyygxx") → false I have written two functions to solve this p...

strings ruby programming-challenge comparative-review

Stack Exchange

0

Q: Current synonymization of [crypto++]

Crypto++ is a C++ cryptographic library. CR used to have a dedicated tag for it: crypto++. Related, see Pre-create tags 'crypto++' and 'cryptopp' for email notifications?. I have an alert that triggers whenever someone uses the tag. The issue is, the tag is now a synonym for cryptography, so I g...

support tags tag-synonyms

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