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the only thing i associate with plotonius is the one lol
 
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07:54
One time I read about how in Einstein-Cartan, the rotational part of the gauge (Einstein tensor) is related to the translational part of the matter (Stress-energy tensor) while the translational part of the gauge (torsion tensor) is related to the rotational part (spin tensor)
I haven't been doing good since
08:34
Is it correct to say that the phase space probability density, is the number of microstates per unit volume in phase space?
 
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10:34
"The literature on pointless geometry is not too large and each author usually ignores the previous attempts at the subject."
How pointless.
11:22
@Slereah You may be interested in this: edition-open-sources.org/sources/5/index.html
thanks
11:35
I guess that an isomorphism with the tangent bundle naturally induces a natural bundle structure since if you compose that with the functor from the manifold to TM then you get your appropriate one for the isomorphic bundle
although while it makes a natural bundle, idk if it makes something a tangent bundle
What if I get one of those weird weighed tangent bundle instead!!!
There must be some extra condition on it
If the transformation law is something like $$\| \frac{\partial x}{\partial x'} \|^k \frac{\partial x}{\partial x'} $$
That is still a natural bundle
isn't a bundle basically used to define tensor fields? I don't know a lot more than that
It is to attach extra data to a point of space
Tensors are an example of this
yes, oh I see, and tensor density is on a different bundle for example? that thingy used for integration?
ahhh, so you're looking for a bundle to do a specific thing?
i mean to encode specific data?
11:40
I am looking for many bundles
what's the plural of bundles? :)
that sounded funny in my head
Bundleses, preciousss.
ChatGPT can now talk to Wolfram | Alpha. It still needs more training, but it already appears to be quite usable. writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/03/…
@ACuriousMind r there particles in Euclidean qft?
I googled it but cudnt find a phySE post
@RyderRude what do you mean?
The only purpose of Euclidean QFT is to generate n-point functions that we can then analytically continue back to the Lorentzian version
it is not a "theory of nature", it's just a computational tool
well, that's not the only purpose, it also occurs in statistical contexts etc.
11:55
What if nature is Euclidian
Like Greg Egan's orthogonal trilogy
Yeah. But is there some theoretical equivalent of particles in it? I mean.. if its energy eigenstates form a fock space in the free theory limit
@PM2Ring I don't understand why I would use ChatGPT to plug my request into WA instead of using WA directly
@RyderRude nothing about the usual building of the Fock space depends on the Lorentzian signature
what changes is just that Wigner's classification no longer holds since the symmetry group is SO(4) and not SO(3,1)
I mean the field approach. I agree that Fock space still exists as a basis. But the energy eigenstates r no longer a Fock space, right?
I don't know what you mean
I mean that Fock space forms a basis of the operators in Euclidean field theory. But these states wud no longer b eigenstates of the euclidean field hamiltonian, i think
So they wudnt represent observables, cuz they wont b energy
12:00
why do you think that?
Cuz energy is observable. Arbitrary operators arent observables
@ACuriousMind oh do u mean fock space wud b energy eigenstates?
what I mean is why do you think the particle states created by the modes aren't eigenstates of the Hamiltonian?
@ACuriousMind guaranteed funnier
Are they still eigenstates?
that the free equation of motion is diagonal in momentum space is true in either case, it's just a sign that changes
12:01
Ye, but u cant interpret them as a harmonic oscillator system anymore. Sign matters for the harmonic oscillator
Without oscillators, the energy eigenstates r no longer a fock space
I mean u cant interpret the euclidean field hamiltonian as coupled harmonic oscillators
Cuz omega wud b imaginary
If you have a Euclidian signature you get elliptic PDEs instead of hyperbolic
if that is what worries you
What worries me is the oscillator interpretation
Its necessary to get fock space from the hamiltonian eigenstates
is it necessary
Othrwise, the fock space is just a random basis
With no energy interpretation
Greg Egan indeed has worked this out
12:06
Hmmm... Doubt ill understand :P
He did but also he has never heard of Mathjax
His website is a chore to read
My core idea iz that perhaps we can motivate why the universe is Lorentzian by the very existence of Particles
Cuz the euclidean energy eigenstates r not very nice
@RyderRude it's just canonical quantization but in the Riemannian signature
if you don't understand this I'm not sure why you're asking this question - in order to reason about QFT you must actually understand it
I will try to understand it then
I did some research on harmonic oscillators with imaginary omega
Theyre not well behaved quantum systems
Cuz classically, they escape to infinity and KEEP ACCELERATING away to infinity
This behavior causes weirdness in quantisation from wut i found
That's Riemannian spacetime for you
Things can go all kinds of way
12:10
Lemme see if Greg found Fock space
I'm not sure why you think the oscillators get imaginary omega
you of course need to do the mode expansion in a way that you get real-valued energies
@ACuriousMind Fair point. ChatGPT makes WA a little more human-friendly, in both its input and output, and easier to use for people who haven't learned how to use WA or studied Wolfram Language.
if you look at what Egan does the Riemannian signature really only enters when we start discussing particles and anti-particles
Yeah, he says creation and annihilation operators behave the usual way
But idk. Here is how i got imaginary omega. Let's say we hav a massless euclidean theory. Then omega of this wud be $\sqrt {-p_1^2-p_2^2-p_3^2}$
do you need such a fancy thing to solve it
12:18
Becuz of the lorentzian metric we got $\sqrt {p^2+m^2}$
If your theory is Riemannian you just have a Laplace equation
My initial impression is that ChatGPT gets more benefit from this "symbiosis": it can now do complex calculations and access real-world data, so it's less likely to Just Make Stuff Up. However, the process is still fairly fragile, and requires a human that understands Wolfram Language to help ChatGPT & WA talk to each other, and to verify that ChatGPT's Wolfram queries are appropriate for the task at hand.
can any of you help me in understanding the basic difference between EM waves generated through electrons acc or any charged particle acc and light waves emerged from
@Slereah I mean to quantise this, we need Harmonic oscillatora of imaginary omega
Classically, it is all good
You don't need Fock spaces to quantize something
12:20
I agree it is quantizable perhaps
from electron transistion
But it's eigenspace shudnt b like Fock space becuz of imaginary omega
Did i do a mistake in getting the imaginary omega?
is there a possibility that both can be same
Hi. As we understand, electrons can't be unmoving therefore electrons always moving or flowing. If the voltage is zero, where do the electrons move? Do they move everywhere? The air molecules are still moving around everywhere, so I guess same goes to electrons? So, zero volt reading on those instruments simply mean they can't detect electron motions that are too subtle?
or will they be different
12:21
Greg just says this theory has just the usual fock space
I was reading about how transmitter generate radio wave
as wiki page its speed will be slightly less than that of light wave
My omega formula for Euclidean fields is $\sqrt {-p_1^2-p_2^2-p_3^2}$ @ACuriousMind @Slereah
i do not know what does slightly
Is this wrong
means
@PM2Ring good evening sir
12:23
I mean for massless euclidean fields
I think it's probably not a good idea to try to stick to the Lorentzian method of computing such things
For a start why are you separating time and space if your theory is Riemannian
Becuz to canonically quantise, we need a timw direction
In the Lorentzian case you Fourier transform the spatial part because it is separate in some sense
Good evening, @Jack.
For the parition function stuff, its all good
12:25
If you pick a specific direction maybe don't use the method for Lorentzian cases tho
Just do the procedure as it is and see where it leads
You'll get your Helmoltz equation with a flipped sign
and then solve from there
No need to define your wavevector already as if nothing has changed
@PM2Ring any idea about it?
@Slereah the solution to be eignvector problm shudnt depend on the method we use to solve it
You'll get like $$\frac{\partial \tilde{\phi}}{\partial t} + (p_x^2 + p_y^2 + p_z^2) \tilde{\phi} = 0$$
Which should just give you exponential solutions
Except real
Or cos and sine I guess
You just have that your """waves""" are $e^{p\cdot x}$
Yeah, but those r the classical field solutions /operator field solutions
Im talking about the eigenvector problm of this
@JackRod They are the same thing: EM waves are generated through acceleration of charged particles. When an electron in an atom changes to a different orbital it changes momentum.
12:33
I mean the eigenvector problem of something like : $\int \pi ^2 - (p_1^2+p^2+p_3^2) phi^2 d^3p @Slereah
what slightly means I mean photon will be the same right?
in EM wave and radio wave
sorry i meant $\int \pi^2 - (p_1^2+p_2^2+p_3^2) \phi ^2 d^3p$
Is this hamiltonian incorrect for massless euclidean qft @ACuriousMind @Slereah
I mean upto normalization constants
I got this by Legendre transforming the massless Euclidean lagrangian. And then I Fourier transformed
@JackRod Yes, all photons travel at c in a vacuum.
12:54
Ok i moved away from the field context and instead thought about it in the Wigner classification context
In that case, the energy eigenvalues for the one particle states wud satisfy $E^2+p_1^2+p_2^2+p_3^2=m^2$
For m=0, we get imaginary $E$. And non-zero $m$, we get constrained $(p_1, p_2, p_3) $
13:09
I just saw Egdan is saying this same thing
In your link @ACuriousMind
He says the momenta r just constrained in the 3 sphere, just like wut the Wigner clasification says
So we can hav particle interpretation in Euclidean field theory as long as we hav constrained momentum
And in the case of m=0, only the zero momentum mode is allowed
So if the universe was Euclidean we'd still hav particles but their 3 momentum wud b weirdly constrained
And massless particles wud always stay at rest
14:00
Ok this is very interesting. To achieve this constraint naturally instead of artificially imposing it, Egdan uses an Euclidean theory on a Torus topology
He says these closed topologies like sphere/Torus r the only way to make sense of Riemannian QFTs. This means the momenta form a discrete spectrum
Then he looks for the momenta in the discrete spectrum that satisfy the constraint, for a fixed mass. He says for most values of $m$ and the dimension of the manifold, no solution may exist.
14:15
I think the reason he is working with a Torus is that the imaginary omega solutions are not even allowed on the Torus. So we dont need to artifically get rid of then.
Becuz a torus wud only admit cyclic solutions. Exponential growth/decay is ruled out
Very clever way to get rid of the bad harmonic oscillators
14:31
Ok but y this same idea is not applicable for the Higgs mechanism? Before the field re-definition, the quadratic term of the Higgs lagrangian has a coefficient of the wrong sign. This wud imply constraints on 3 momentum according to $p_0^2 = p_1^2+p^2+p^3^2 - m^2$ @ACuriousMind
So we cud possibly choose a suitable topology to impose this constraint like Greg does
honestly I don't find this very interesting - our universe is not Euclidean, there is no reason to expect that theories like relativistic QFT designed to work in the Lorentzian signature yield any meaningful results at all when applied to Euclidean signatures
the "Euclidean" theory that matters is the non-relativistic limit, not the theory you get from a simple switch to Euclidean signature
I agree. It's very weird particle behavior. I think this cud b one more reason to motivate a Lorentzian lagrangian
the motivation for a Lorentzian Lagrangian is that special relativity is an observable fact!
the universe is Lorentzian
Lol. I love mathematical beauty too tho
Like, how things HAD to b this way
Again, I view the fact that our current theories don't work well in other signatures not as a sign that Lorentzian signature is somehow special, it's just a consequence of our theories being designed to work in Lorentzian signature but not designed to work in the others
if we lived in a Euclidean universe we would have designed theories of physics that could deal with whatever happens in that universe that presumably would fail utterly when we try to apply them to Lorentzian signatures
14:41
Maaybe, yea. But I hav some reasons for y i find this argument beautiful. Lemme list
this sort of theory crafting is fine when you're Greg Egan and you want to write your very own idiosyncratic branch of hard SciFi, but I don't think it tells us anything about the universe we live in
1. When we initially discovered quantum theory, it was non-relativistic. So this argument reveals some compatibility between quantum principles and Minkowski signature
Now the thing that I REALLY find beautiful is : when canonically quantising classical field, we hav to choose the time direction. Now, this argument shows that ONLY ONE choice is good
I mean we gotta choose the dimension with the opposite sign frm the other three
consider that our whole construction of both classical and quantum mechanics is founded on the idea that time is special and distinct from space
that alone is already a hint that time and space cannot be on completely equal footing as they are in Euclidean signature
that our quantization procedures treat time special is just another manifestation of that: we live in a universe where time is special and so all our physical theories treat time as special
that they stop working when you try to imagine a universe where time isn't special - where, indeed, it is even more unclear what "time" even means than in our universe - is utterly unsurprising to me
14:49
There is a time direction that is somewhat special in Egan's universe
But that is decided by initial conditions, not the physics
The matter involved just has a lot of inertia in a particular direction
And that is "time"
But the dynamics of euclidean fields do not treat any direction separately @Slereah
I think Egdan randomly chose any direction. And his time dimension needed to b periodic too
To avoid imaginary omega
sure but Egan wants to write a story set in a universe so he needs to set up the universe such that there's a notion of time that allows him to tell a story
Oh, so he writes fiction. I was thinking he was speculating about this universe
no, he's a hard SF author
the material on his website is the supporting material for the universes he sets his stories in
Very cool
supplementary material for the stories
Does he not explain the math in the story itself
14:54
well, not with as much math
He does, though in less details
I think how much of the physics of the universe is explained depends a bit on the story
This is a great idea
But impossible to make accessible to casual readers
I guess
Should be writing about wizards and big buff men if you want to have a wide readership
I think he can hav some final twists in his stories by revealing some non trivial aspect of his theory lol
14:56
Spacetime signatures are a lesser crowd pleaser
I bet he does that
@RyderRude I mean you don't need to understand the physics of a universe to enjoy stories set in it
many people don't understand the physics of this universe and have no problem reading stories that are set in it :P
Also the people in that story are like
blob people that can change shape?
magic universes often don't even have set rules you could understand before they become relevant in the plot and that's successful, too
14:58
Does he hav twist reveals about some cool aspects of his physics theory
Like the protagonists suddenly do this trick using physics
To beat the villain
@RyderRude He's also written a story set in a universe with ++-- signature: gregegan.net/DICHRONAUTS/DICHRONAUTS.html
Wowww
Like wtf
Two time direction, or one of the negatives is space?
I hope its the former
I mean it's a symmetric matrix
There are as many time directions as space
How the hell does consciouness work there
How does it work here
15:01
Like, u cant grow old in two directions lol
I need to read this shit
Observers in 2,2 signature still have a proper time
just like in GR
Oh. So locally there is only one time direction that is tangent to the worldline?
Then its less crazy than i thought
Same as that Riemannian story really
So the worldlines r normal lines, and people grow old along it
the time is interpreted as just the direction of worldline
It's the global aspects of time that are complicated
15:03
I was wondering wut it wud feel like to EXPERIENCE double times
Like, u can gain knowledge along both
Probbailities can collapse along both
Its probably non-sense
Lol
People in Dichronauts are symbiotic pairs. It's complicated, and I've only read the excerpt on his site, not the full story.
Egan wrote a Quantum Soccer game to illustrate one of his short stories. gregegan.net/BORDER/Soccer/Soccer.html The story is set in a VR world, so the characters don't have a problem playing the game. gregegan.net/BORDER/Border.html
15:47
Can a telescope one day be able to localize the position of a galaxy in the celestial sky so accurately that the uncertainty principle needs to be taken into account?
@Amit why would the uncertainty principle matter here?
and why is it relevant it's a telescope
the resolution of optical instruments is generally diffraction-limited
@ACuriousMind 1. Because we also measure their momentum 2. The telescope is the detector in this case, which we use both to determine the position and the momentum / angular momentum
I'm not sure how you think we're measuring momentum here
When there is talk about the anomalous rotation curves, isn't that a measurement of angular momentum?
the velocity in the rotation curves is computed from Doppler shift observations afaik
that's not a "momentum measurement" in the sense of QM
just like me computing the velocity of a particle with a stopwatch and two position measurements isn't a momentum measurement
16:03
@ACuriousMind Okay - I understand that more or less. But beyond the technique used for measurement, doesn't QM also say that a body can't have a combination of momentum and position precisely defined below a certain threshold? So that would seem to mean that it's true regardless of the measurement apparatus?
I understand that we may be measuring the average rotation velocity, as you say with the stopwatch example. But the uncertainty principle also affect averages, because if it affects a $(x,p)$ measurement at any time $t$ it will also affect the averaging of those values along $t$ right?
I'm not saying that the uncertainty principle is the cause for "dark matter" or something, I don't think that's relevant for the sizes we are resolving. I'm just curious if a telescope may be able to one day resolve such tiny arc-lengths (solid angles) that this does come into play
@Amit My point is that in the stop watch example I'm not making a measurement of $p$ or $\langle p\rangle$, I'm computing the difference of two position measurements and dividing by $t$ and multiply by $m$ to get a "momentum"
but this is not the same as what QM means by a measurement of $p$ or $\langle p\rangle$
ahh, I see because in QM we get it from a single measurement
a single sampling
nevertheless if $t$ is small enough doesn't that approach $\langle p\rangle$?
I don't want to edit all of the above; remove the $\langle p\rangle$ everywhere
Ehrenfest's theorem indeed says that the expectation values behave as you'd expect classically
but the uncertainty principle doesn't say anything about expectation values, it's a statement about standard deviations
16:18
Something is bugging me here I can't put my finger on it :)
I guess my question can be reformulated as follows: suppose we forget about the fact that galaxies are these massive things, we only know about QM, and, all we know is that we are measuring bodies that live on this weird celestial sphere, and we are building instruments that can resolve them to a higher and higher degree of accuracy, hence defining their position better and better. Do we ever need to start worrying about the uncertainty principle :)
I don't understand how you can make a momentum or velocity measurement that doesn't intrinsically span a finite duration of time. As the time span approaches zero, the measured velocity approaches the instantaneous velocity, but as the span gets smaller, the errors in your measurements make a larger relative contribution.
Or say you're measuring the frequency of some wave. You need a lot of cycles to get an accurate value for the period (or wavelength) of the wave.
@PM2Ring I guess via measuring the energy you would get in one "lump" for example
Heisenberg Uncertainty is important for particles. For big macroscopic objects the error due to HUP is totally tiny compared to other sources of error. For celestial bodies, forget it!
@PM2Ring That's why I said, suppose we don't know that they're macroscopic, we are making measurements of light sources that travel on a spherical shell.
I mean does it make absolutely no difference for example that I can localize a certain galaxy to occupy a very specific 0.0001 arcseconds of length on this shell?
Energy & frequency measurements of particles are equivalent, via $E=hf$. To have zero uncertainty in the frequency of a periodic wave you need to observe an infinite number of cycles.
@Amit But we do know they're macroscopic. And they aren't perfect point sources, they're always fuzzy.
16:31
The statement that they're macroscopic is a statement relating our local scale to their local scale, it's not clear how that affects the process of measurement, and ok, even though they're fuzzy we make them less fuzzy with better instruments...
@Amit I think you need to be clearer about why you think the uncertainty principle ever plays a role here
the resolution of optical instruments is diffraction-limited, not "uncertainty-principle-limited"
@ACuriousMind Well that is kind of the question though, does it play a role. I can only point out that the one data point I have that suggests it might play a role is the increasing accuracy of determining the position in the celestial sky
But thank you I'll try to give it some more thought
@ACuriousMind Is relativistic QM its own thing or is it derive-able from a deeper theory?
it's the mess you get when you only know one half of QFT :P
Im asking becuz, if QFT can only deal with scattering and has no notion of time evolution, then rel QM has 2 b its own thing
16:45
I think you need to stop relying on my ramblings and actually learn the subjects you're asking about :P
my point wasn't really that QFT has "no notion of time evolution"
I hav learned these half-assedly :P
more that that's not what it's interested in
Oh
Yeah, then i misunderstood
and there's a general principle that the equation of motion of the field is also the equation of motion of a one-particle wavefunction (see physics.stackexchange.com/q/193237/50583) if you ignore all caveats about position operators and localizability and whatnot
rel. QM is just what you get when you restrict to the 1- (or 2- or whatever) particle space and forget all the rest
then do u agree that finite time qm is the deepest theory, of which both scattering and rel qm are applications?
16:48
not really
I kno about one derivation of rel qm from finite time qfy
Its when u do $\psi(x)=\langle x|\psi \rangle$ and find that $\psi (x) $ obeys dirac equation
@ACuriousMind why do u say that :)?
because of all the devils in the details, like renormalization and Haag's theorem and non-existing position operators etc.
I suppose u cud make the idea of "approximate position operators" rigorous when u derive rel QM from finite time QFT
Cuz the Mcdonald's function almost looks like a delta function
QFT should be just QM with more d.o.f., and we can often get away with pretending it is, but it is not clear to me that we should think of it like that
But idk how one cud make the derivation of scattering qft from finite time qft rigorous, yeah
16:53
what the heck is "finite time QFT"
It's what u think it is, intuitively :)
I think the intuitive ideas r there, but none of it is rigorous
I generally think I disagree not so much with the specific claims you make but with the general vagueness here
why do we use the word approaching in third law of thermodynamics ? why cant we use the system has constant entropy rather than approaching constant entropy , "the entropy of a system approaches a constant value as the temperature approaches absolute zero."
QFT is a deeply technical subject and I think it is pointless to discuss it while trying to smooth over the technicalities
@NaveenV because you can show systems can't reach zero temperature in finitely many steps
@ACuriousMind I think of it as : we have hand-vawy ideas but it'd make decades to them them rigorous. But that doesnt mean we shudnt believe in the hand vawy idea
16:56
it takes infinitely many steps so we go the calculus way and tell approaching ? @curious_mind
oh wait
thats the wrong person
;-;
I mean the idea of finite time qft being the deepest theory from which scattering and rel qm can b derived @ACuriousMind
damn doppelgangers
@NaveenV yes
Aug 21, 2022 at 9:55, by Feynman_00
I was reading MSE chat and a user named Curious Mind appeared, claiming Math is evil. @ACuriousMind Your antiparticle has just been discovered :P
@RyderRude yeah, I'm not convinced that's the case
ah thank you @ACuriousMind
16:58
I think a possible interpretation of all the technical issues with constructing QFT via quantization of classical field theory is that this idea is "sort-of right" but not actually the correct way to think about it
there r hand vawy proofs of both rel qm and scattering from finite time qft. They must b indicative of smthing underlying
is it me or is your text-speak getting worse :P
But u hav more experience with these theories, i agree
can't you just write words normally, I find this hard to read in longer discussions
You mean i shud use full words?
17:00
you should, yes!
Im on phone. I type slow :P
When on laptop, i do use full words :)
English isn't the language I text most people with so I have to make an actual mental effort to translate the textspeak to "real" English since I'm not used to it
Sorry :P. I will try to write it understandably
@RyderRude I would say the opposite: The fact that all formalizations/axiomatizations of QFT that I know very much try to avoid ever referencing what I think you mean by "finite time QFT" is indicative that this is just a useful heuristic and not how QFT "really" works
like, the Wightman axioms talk about n-point functions and fields, not time evolution operators and states, there's the "local algebras of observables" people that also construct this very differently from QM, etc.
an independently of whether or not to take the Wightman axioms as the starting point there's theorems like QFTs that have the same n-point functions at all n are, in fact, the same QFT/action
meaning the entire theory is indeed in the n-point functions and the scattering "approximation" does not, in fact, forget information
The only problem I find with this approach is that relativistic QM would then need to be its own thing. This approach doesnt allow for unification.
I mean unification of both these applications of relativistic quantum theory
I agree that everything about the scattering theory is in the n-point functions. That aspect of the theory is self-contained. We can take that as the definition of that theory
17:09
the "relativistic wavefunction" for rel. QM. in momentum is something like $\langle p\vert \phi(x)\lvert 0\rangle$, write this as $\langle 0\vert a_p \phi(x)\vert 0\rangle$, this is just a slightly weird vacuum expectation value
I don't think it's as hard as you think to get to rel. QM
you just don't necessarily can motivate that limit by talking about some sort of underlying idea about how QM works
but again: intermediate steps in computations aren't required to make sense :P
I agree, mathematically, rel QM is still contained in the correlation functions. But the interpretation is now of finite time evolution, rather than transition amplitudes over infinite times.
But idk. I think i am splitting hairs now :P
You have more experience with these theories
I don't really think the "infinity" part matters so much, the physical idea is that "infinity" is just code for "stuff is far enough apart to not interact" anyway
no one thinks you need to run a scattering experiment for 1000 years to apply QFT to it
There are also alternative formulations like algebraic QFT. I vaguely remember reading that they make it work without the time goes to infinity limit
They were talking about a net of observables
It was something like : "You only need to consider the part of spacetime that is your lab experiment"
17:22
so I opened "Pinciples of optics" by Born and wolf, 7th edition. the chapter of optics in metals
to my astonishment, the chapter starts with a sentence claiming that good absorbers of EM waves are also good reflectors, and that it's the case of metals. I was shocked, is this true?
i know the emissivity of polished metals is around 0.08, so this makes them absorb less than 10% of incident light, for example
is that considered a good absorber? ???
17:42
@ACuriousMind I have one last thing. Maxwell's classical EM theory can b derived from finite time QFT if one takes the Ehrenfest theorem. This is one thing that I'm thinking isn't contained in the scattering QFT.
I agree Rel. QM is sort-of contained in the scattering theory
@ACuriousMind Tho I also think we need a better framework than finite time QFT to unify all of these aspects of relativistic quantum physics
Perhaps Algebraic qft. We are slowly getting there.
17:56
@RyderRude all you need for EM is Coulomb's law + special relativity; Coulomb's law is in the scattering of two electrons
Oh shit. The two point correlation function
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