The h Bar

0celo7

4:00 PM

I would make a joke but it could get me banned.

John Rennie

@0celo7 go for it, you can count on us (to laugh :-)

Lozansky

)

Anonymous

SmileyBuse!

Anonymous

@0celo7 30 mins won't matter much. Just go walk around a bit and come back

John Rennie

Actually I suppose there is something we could discuss during this chat session.

How actively should this chat room be managed by the room owners?

(Flags by other mods/10k users we can't do anything about)

For example we tend not to delete posts unless they're actually offensive. Should we be more proactive in deleting posts that aren't offensive but that some chat room members find annoying?

Future Historian

4:09 PM

I am alive!

Slereah

Help

I'm so sick of paperwork

0celo7

@Blue I’m in class actually

I keep getting banned while I’m busy so it’s really just an annoyance

Anonymous

@0celo7 $\text{concentrate}$

0celo7

If I need to reach the important people on the chat i h ave other means

Jaime Gallego

@JohnRennie No. This is a (semi)public forum and some chat members need not dictate how this is managed.

Sir Cumference

4:10 PM

@0celo7 Who is important here?

0celo7

The people I can contact outside of the chat.

I’m trying to find your info, so don’t worry

Sir Cumference

>_>

Future Historian

So, is it fine if I post some images from a sketch I made?

Along with specifications?

John Rennie

@JaimeGallego I'm guessing that the room members are generally cautious about anything that smells like censorship.

But we do get occasions where repeated pointless posts cause arguments and bad feeling.

dmckee

@0celo7 See, they're doing it to help you with your procrastination issues.

Jaime Gallego

4:13 PM

@JohnRennie How does one define "pointless"?

Future Historian

@Slereah? Can I upload some sketches and specifications in here?

Sir Cumference

@dmckee The flag abusers are morally correct

Jaime Gallego

Honest question.

0celo7

@dmckee why do you think I have procrastination issues

Future Historian

@JaimeGallego.....what did I just arrive into?

dmckee

4:14 PM

@0celo7 You are to be found haunting internet chat spaces at all hours...

John Rennie

@JaimeGallego pointless would be posts that aren't going to result in a productive discussion.

We all post pointless stuff at times e.g. my photos of my meals aren't especially erudite.

Anonymous

@JohnRennie Yeah, I think they should be trashed. For example Kenshin's rants about his revolutionary theories

Anonymous

Let's talk about Donald Trump's hair 👱

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John Rennie

Actually Kenshin's posts would be a good example.

Anonymous

*Apologises and runs away*

Future Historian

4:16 PM

Anyway, is it fine if I can lighten things up a bit?

John Rennie

BTW I'm going to cancel the stars on that FAGGOTS post on the grounds that some fool might actually take offence and flag it.

0celo7

@dmckee the chat is open on my second monitor

Anonymous

Actually, I think we do have a good idea about who is talking in good faith and who is talking in bad faith, depending on the context. But the problem is the sudden outsiders who sometimes have to come in to handle flags (it's not completely their fault either)

Slereah

Can we just make a rule that it is illegal to be Kenshin

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie Ah come on, this gave us a good laugh

No need to unstar it

0celo7

4:17 PM

I wrote a 158 page thesis in two months. I don’t think I have procrastination issues in general

John Rennie

I guess the problem is when someone is perceived as trolling.

0celo7

3 months

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie I feel that "pointless" is a rather pointless criterion - idle conversations about food or music or whatever are both pointless and perfectly harmless

Anonymous

@Slereah That would solve half our problems I guess :P

Slereah

food does not cause bad feeling

food is good

0celo7

4:18 PM

Who is Kenshin? Never heard of him

Jaime Gallego

A more appropriate criterion would be how offensive something is bound to be.

Future Historian

WHAT ON EARTH IS HAPPENING?!

Jaime Gallego

The one we've been using because it is common sense

John Rennie

@ACuriousMind I agree, but then I'm hoping a clearer policy will emerge from the discussion. My use of pointless was just a cockshy.

Future Historian

Can we all just calm down?

Because this.....is not productive in and of itself.

Anonymous

4:19 PM

@FutureHistorian We are all calm, discussing an important issue. So you can rest!

Future Historian

Is it?

Oh. Still, hard to tell on the Internet.

Sir Cumference

@0celo7 He is some video game character, @Kenshin might know more

0celo7

No, he’s from a manga.

ACuriousMind

@FutureHistorian I think everyone is rather calm, actually, what gives you the impression that it is otherwise?

0celo7

Learn your culture @SirCumference

Sir Cumference

4:20 PM

That's not my culture :P

0celo7

I’m surprised you’re not a weeb

Why?

You have that aura

...

> Weebs are harmless. They know they're disliked by many people but they don't give a fuck because they know they're sugoi (awesome).

:-)

Sir Cumference

4:21 PM

I've watched maybe 4 or 5 anime before, don't think that qualifies

0celo7

I don’t dislike weebs

Future Historian

The fact that you are all arguing over some policies that may or may not be beneficial to the community, and it is probably going nowhere?

Well, were until just-now.

0celo7

@FutureHistorian just let the crazy people argue

Future Historian

Oh.

Anyway, can I post some sketches and specifications in here?

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie I just think idolizing a country they don't belong to is a bit odd

ACuriousMind

4:23 PM

@JaimeGallego there are things that are not really offensive in themselves but which I nevertheless will take action on, such as someone refusing to drop a line of conversation after having been repeatedly asked to by several people, for example

Jaime Gallego

@FutureHistorian From an experiment apparatus?

Sir Cumference

Like if I had some odd obsession with the UK, wouldn't you be taken aback @JohnRennie?

:43775960 That timing tho

John Rennie

@FutureHistorian wouldn't they be better in the Worldbuilding chat?

Future Historian

I posted them already and....they are rather quiet.

Weird......

:(

John Rennie

@SirCumference not at all. I would simply assume you were a BREXIT supporter

Sir Cumference

4:24 PM

Fair enough :P

D.Hutchinson

I just got a notice of a chat session starting here soon. What's going on? Is there a special announcement that's going to happen?

John Rennie

BTW I'm going to cancel the stars on that I'm going to cancel the stars on that FAGGOTS post on the grounds that some fool might actually take offence and flag it

Jaime Gallego

@ACuriousMind Hmm, that is a fair point. It may still be considered "offensive" in the broad sense.

ACuriousMind

@D.Hutchinson no just a regular biweekly chat session

Anonymous

@D.Hutchinson Nothing much. It's a biweekly event. We don't have anything special to speak about today

D.Hutchinson

4:25 PM

ah, ok cool

Jaime Gallego

@JohnRennie Soon you'll need a metalanguage

John Rennie

If I catch the person flagging those posts ... :-)

D.Hutchinson

I thought physics.se was terminating or something :(

Future Historian

Anyway, since Worldbuilding SE seems too quiet, mind if I post the sketches in here?

Jaime Gallego

@D.Hutchinson Lol

Anonymous

4:26 PM

@ACuriousMind Did you see the google docs link I posted? I think those are some good examples of bad questions which got through

Madhuchhanda Mandal

@JohnRennie Now I think you need to cancel star on cancel star on cancelling star xD

Anonymous

36 mins ago, by Blue

I wanted to show ACM this list of bad questions which got through in the last week. Rough draft for a possible meta post

Anonymous

(It's not complete yet)

ACuriousMind

@Blue I saw the link but going through them on mobile is tedious, I'll look at them later today

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Sure, np

Future Historian

4:27 PM

Meh. Screw it. I will just put the sketch in here for future reference. Worldbuilding SE is too quiet.

Jaime Gallego

@FutureHistorian It is quite busy right now, if you need to, you can post it to the other channel

Future Historian

Oh.

Where to?

Jaime Gallego

"Physics Meta"

Backup Room – The h Bar

A backup room for when The h Bar is busy. (chat.stackexchange....

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John Rennie

@FutureHistorian leave it till after the chat sessions ends (in 30 minutes) then post here

Future Historian

Oh.

Fair enough.

Madhuchhanda Mandal

4:32 PM

Awkward silence :/

Future Historian

So.....

What happened?

Tanuj

Oh don't mention other rooms here

ACuriousMind

@Blue what I do think would be useful regardless of the specific examples would be some sort of estimation how common such low-quality questions actually are in proportion to the total volume - we get a lot of traffic that's been steadily increasing, so that the total number of bad apples goes up is to be expected anyway

We humans tend to overestimate the actual proportion of things that catch our negative attention

Sir Cumference

@JaimeGallego That's for metaphysics

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Those were the examples of the "terrible" questions. I didn't include the "bad" questions. I see bad typesetting on almost 1/5th-1/4th of the main site questions (didn't include that). And yes, we do have an increasing amount of traffic but not a proportional increase in number of reviewers or high quality users. So that does seem something like to worry about

Anonymous

4:38 PM

We could do an analysis of the percentage of questions which are terrible in the past month. But I'm not sure we need to

John Duffield

I noticed that the standard of the questions has gone down.

ACuriousMind

For instance, last time I looked at HW closures, the rate of closed as HW questions is rather stable over long time spans, but it sure feels we're "flooded" by HW compared to some time ago

So there's not really a new problem there although it feels like that to many reviewers since the total numbers in the close queue are going up

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind The thing to worry about is: Are we having a proportional rise in good quality questions too? Say if the initial percentage of hw questions were 60% and good questions were 40%, is that ratio now becoming ~80:20, or is it still similar to 60:40

ACuriousMind

In some ways, it might be an inevitable side effect of growing larger and larger

@Blue I just said that the rate of closed as HW questions is rather stable

Good vs bad is off course a harder statistic to track :P

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Hmm. But well, as I spotted around 10 questions in the last week weren't closed as hw, but they look pretty terrible to me

Anonymous

4:42 PM

Those are the ones I put in that google docs

Prathyush Poduval

I see lot of HW questions compared to nice thoughtful ones

Anonymous

So, basically our issue is: How to increase number of active reviewers and editors? I'm sure we can come up with a (partial) solution if we give it some thought

John Duffield

The HW closure rate might look stable, but I would hazard a guess that high-rep posters are getting tired of going through the close queue.

ACuriousMind

Yeah, bad - but - not - closeable questions are not very well visible in the statistics tools, especially since even crap tends to get up voted :P

@Blue that is a different but definitely worthwhile question

Anonymous

I think a short period of mod-singlehandedness can improve the quality of the questions which might in turn bring back the quality users

Jaime Gallego

4:46 PM

@JohnRennie @BernardoMeurer I found a museum in Seattle which allows SSH to some mainframes live.

I created an account in a CDC 6500 supercomputer.

Anonymous

But as you said, it wouldn't be too wise to put too much pressure on the mods either...

Jaime Gallego

That's a 60s era machine

John Duffield

IMHO years ago there were plenty of "names" answering questions, but there are relatively few today.

John Rennie

@JaimeGallego There would be some nostalgia value in playing with an IBM 370, since that's what I learned to code on. But I suspect the novelty would wear off :-)

And a lot of those early mainframes were distressingly easy to crash.

ACuriousMind

@Blue I'm wary of creating an expectation that we mods do more review work since that does not entice anyone to become a reviewer

Rather the opposite

John Rennie

4:50 PM

@ACuriousMind I think there is an argument for hammering blatant homework questions.

Jaime Gallego

@JohnRennie A PDP-11 as well. I have to use ed to edit files.

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie I already do that to most that cross my path

John Rennie

I never used a PDP-11. Cambridge didn't have any and by the time I left the PDP-11s were an endangered species.

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Well, that's not a bad point either :P

Jaime Gallego

@AndreCoin Pardon?

Anonymous

4:52 PM

Hmm. Lots of spam bots today

Anonymous

@JaimeGallego It's a bot probably. Someone has been trying to spam the chats the whole day

Anonymous

It's the third case now

Jaime Gallego

Huh

John Rennie

Thanks @ThomasWard :-)

ACuriousMind

Wonderful.

Thomas Ward

4:54 PM

hm? No, I only just joined to watch what's going on, I didn't do anything. Couldn't from this piece of junk phone.

John Rennie

@ThomasWard ah, oh well :-)

Jaime Gallego

His presence is enough...

John Duffield

So, who want to talk about physics?

dmckee

Anyone else feel like traying to crack a nut?

0

Q: What are common methods to remove discretization on experimental measures?

I have some experimental data, and since the measurements are digital, the data is discretized/quantized/rounded/truncated. I need to know if there are general methods, or common methods, to "smooth" the data, remove the discretization, or identify what type of distortion it has (rounding is not...

I'm tempted to suggest that the OP read One-Hundred-and-One Ways to Render Your Analysis Useless by D. Oant Doodis.

@JaimeGallego I got to type commands into the (fan-fold) terminal of a beefed up PDP-11 once.

Under close supervision from the couple of BoFHs who had charge of the machine.

This was in the mid 1990s.

Anonymous

@dmckee I think you should. Using regression to smooth-en data is a terrible idea in general :P

DanielSank

5:03 PM

Hi, everybody.

@dmckee That one is weird.

skullpatrol

heya

dmckee

@Blue In the end that kind of snark isn't constructive, and the OP seems to already have decided to ignore my advice.

DanielSank

OP did explain a bit more about what they're trying to do though, so maybe we'll get somewhere.

@JohnDuffield ::raises hand::

But only if it's statistical mechanics, quantum mechanics, noise, or the physics of elephant trunks.

Sir Cumference

Holy hell, what is wrong with MS Word

DanielSank

No relativity for me today.

Sir Cumference

5:04 PM

This is the buggiest program I've dealt with in a while

DanielSank

@SirCumference If Bernardo were here, he'd say it's proprietary maleware.

dmckee

@SirCumference Everything?

Jaime Gallego

@dmckee "BoFH", now I haven't heard that acronym in a while.

Sir Cumference

Freezes randomly, crashes in the middle of my work, and refuses to start up 50% of the time

DanielSank

@SirCumference What OS?

dmckee

5:05 PM

@JaimeGallego They would shout at people who walked too close to the machine, because every once in a while it would crash if bumped.

Sir Cumference

All of this is extremely frequent, i.e. once a minute or so

@DanielSank Mac

John Rennie

@JaimeGallego I worked (part time) as a BOfH at Cambridge :-)

dmckee

This was part of the inherited data acquisition system in a old experimental area of Fermi-lab that we were bringing back on line.

Sir Cumference

At this point I think I might move to Apple's blatant ripoff "Pages"

dmckee

A year later the PDP was replaced with something newer, but for a brief shining moment it was useful once more.

John Rennie

5:06 PM

@SirCumference you're using Word on OSX?

Sir Cumference

@JohnRennie Yeah, why?

Pretty sure everyone uses Word

Anonymous

Just use google docs. Makes life easier, unless you're using some very specific Word features

DanielSank

@SirCumference "Everyone"?!

wat?

John Rennie

I use Word every day on Windows and I can't remember the last time it crashed.

DanielSank

I haven't used MS Word in years.

Sir Cumference

5:07 PM

@Blue I need to upload a lab report, which requires equations to be typed up. That means I need word :/

DanielSank

@SirCumference How on Earth does "need to be typed" mean "needs to be MS Word"?

John Duffield

@DanielSank : I've spent a lot of time recently reading up on the history of quantum mechanics. And quantum field theory. Which in the early days was the same thing as quantum electrodynamics. There's an interesting essay by Tian Yu Cao and Silvan Schweber dating from 1993. It's called the conceptual foundations and the philosophical aspects of renormalization theory.

Sir Cumference

@DanielSank I've never heard of a person who doesn't use Word

That's like a person who watches videos on a site other than Youtube

Anonymous

@SirCumference LaTeX ?

Anonymous

typeset.io

DanielSank

5:08 PM

@SirCumference I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Sir Cumference

@Blue Gave that a try. Somehow that was much more work and trouble

Jaime Gallego

@JohnRennie Gee, they just went mad with the latest supercomputer! 1 MHz!!

Sir Cumference

@DanielSank Being completely honest

Anonymous

That is a pretty cool website for typing equations fast and converting to a TeX document (or even Word)

Sir Cumference

I don't need something like LaTeX if I'm just using a few equations

I'm not sure why I'm having trouble with Word when OneNote, PP, Excel etc. work fine

Anonymous

5:10 PM

Hmm. I think in google docs there are some tricks to insert equations.

Anonymous

Word works fine for me though

Anonymous

On Windows

Sir Cumference

@Blue There are, but there's no way to upload such a document to a website

Anonymous

@SirCumference Download to your PC as docx or pdf and then upload

Jaime Gallego

@dmckee The US Air Force still uses them for missile silos.

Difficult to maintain, but god are they airgapped against intruders.

DanielSank

5:15 PM

@SirCumference Don't need, but I'd use it anyway.

@Blue It's not a trick, it's a built-in feature. You can even type latex syntax into it.

@SirCumference You can export Google Docs into a variety of formats including pdf and MSWord.

Anonymous

@DanielSank Does it render LaTeX automatically ? I had to use RobJohn's bookmark to render it

dmckee

@SirCumference I know a lot of people who only use Word under protest. I'm one of them.

Anonymous

I don't know much about google docs features

John Rennie

@JaimeGallego I can't remember how fast the OS370 was. In any case mainframes had so much hardware support that it's hard to compare to a PC.

DanielSank

@Blue These days you can use latex directly in the equation editor.

dmckee

5:17 PM

It's a rare term when I don't have to run it once, but I can generally keep the number of times I run that thing down to single digits per year.

DanielSank

@dmckee Me too.

Anonymous

@DanielSank Oh wow. Didn't notice that

DanielSank

MS Word has the massive inconvenience of being a proprietary format that is ill-suited to version control, and only running on commercial software.

I'd much rather write text in my choice of editor and run it through LaTeX.

ACuriousMind

I recently had to use word at work and had to repeatedly delete stuff like \textbf I had typed without thinking :P

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John Rennie

For what it's worth, on my own computers (as opposed to the work computers) I use Word 2003. It was the last version focussed on functionality rather than feature bloat, and it's dramatically faster than the current versions.

Slereah

5:21 PM

Also MS Word is terrible for equations

dmckee

@ACuriousMind I do that. And I also sometimes try to *emphasize* or **bold** words in LaTeX documents with markdown syntax. ::sigh::

Secret

is there drag and drop in latex, cause other than that, latex is superior

ACuriousMind

I think the last time I used word for equations was in school when I didn't know TeX existed

dmckee

^ Me, too. I even knew that LaTeX was a thing. I just didn't have an environment then.

ACuriousMind

@Secret that's a feature of an editor, not LaTeX itself

DanielSank

5:23 PM

@JohnRennie So... while you report that Word doesn't crash etc., you also report that you're fifteen years behind on versions because the new ones are less performant.

That's a shining advertisement for MS products if I ever heard one.

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Balarka Sen

What is up dramalertnation

Secret

I see. I am mainly using texshop on mac

Balarka Sen

It's your boy keemstar here

Secret

and sometimes trying to position figures can be annoying

John Rennie

@DanielSank At work I have to use the latest version

DanielSank

5:23 PM

@BernardoMeurer look up a few posts.

John Rennie

And I have no interest in endorsing MS products

DanielSank

@JohnRennie Didn't say you did.

Just noting what sounds like an unfortunate user experience.

John Rennie

Yes, I find the 15 year old Word 2003 much nicer to use than Word 2016.

Secret

MS is excellant for gaming, but suck at document stuff. Just excel alone with more than 1000 rows, it already lags like there is no tomorrow

DanielSank

@Secret Drag and drop of what?

Balarka Sen

5:25 PM

What's with the boom of activity on IPS.SE

Secret

@DanielSank I want to do something like free positon my images anywhere I want to in a document instead of having to guess where to put it with margin parameters and so on

John Rennie

@Secret I've seen Excel (all versions) used for massive financial applications with no problems.

Balarka Sen

I still don't know how to talk to people without sounding broken, maybe I should ask a question about that

DanielSank

@Secret Ah.

That's not a thing that TeX is particularly good at.

ACuriousMind

@Secret I recently switched fully to Linux and have gotten almost every game to run - the situation has much improved in recent years

DanielSank

5:26 PM

Try latest version of LyX. Maybe they have a feature for that now.

Secret

@JohnRennie ah, then it must be my old mac then, well,I have not opened that documented for a long time, so perhaps it will run fine on my current mac

Anonymous

@BalarkaSen Place for you ;)

Anonymous

Yeah you should

ACuriousMind

@Secret that's on purpose - TeX is supposed to be better at placement than you are ;)

Secret

@ACuriousMind Linux had caught up with the gaming stuff? It seems I need a lot of catching up to do about the developments of linux

Jaime Gallego

5:28 PM

@Secret On some games

ACuriousMind

@Secret Around half of my Steam library runs naively on Linux, and much of the rest works with Wine after a bit of fiddling

Jaime Gallego

^

Balarka Sen

@Blue More massive legends should join that site tbh

ACuriousMind

That's supposed to be "natively" but I like the typo:D

Secret

I will definitely need to catch up with the gaming industry side of things after this PhD...

Balarka Sen

5:29 PM

I'll ask a question after my exams, which end at, uh, 6th

Secret

@DanielSank from the description, sounds nice, I will definitely give it a try and see how much it can improve my thesis formatting efficiency

ACuriousMind

@BalarkaSen Telling other people how to live their lives is very attractive to many netizens ;P

Balarka Sen

Yeah...

That's precisely part of the reason I don't like that site very much

I mean I can see it as helpful but

Anonymous

@BalarkaSen I have something to ask there too: "How to deal with situations when I have nothing much to speak with the acquaintance passing by me (but it looks rude if I don't) ?" :P That's a pretty serious issue when it comes to human contact

0celo7

@BalarkaSen lol?

Curio

5:35 PM

What about communicating vessels here? youtu.be/44Huos4glis

dmckee

@Secret You don't have to place figures and the like in floats, which means that they get typeset at the point in the text where you \includegraphics (or other command them).

I do that with small tables from time-to-time.

John Rennie

@Blue the acquaintance is thinking the same as you. Just say hi, got to dash and both of you will be relieved.

dmckee

But if you want captions and numbering and references you'll have to find a package that implements that in a non-floating way or write some small commands yourself.

Balarka Sen

@JohnRennie HAH

HAHAHAH

Amazing

Anonymous

lol. That's actually good advice

dmckee

5:36 PM

Hmmm ... well any "better" floats package than iplements the H positioning hint should work, so that's already done.

ACuriousMind

@Blue embrace the German way of not saying anything if there's nothing to say ;}

John Rennie

Only took me 57 years to learn :-)

Anonymous

@ACuriousMind Eh. Now that justifies the actions of German weirdos I met in real life

Anonymous

They do speak..like really really less

ACuriousMind

It's a cliche that has its roots in a very real truth :P

Anonymous

5:39 PM

Speaking from my experience of meeting around 3-4 Germans :P

Jaime Gallego

I lived for a few days with some German students

Slereah

We didn't drive out the dreaded krauts to learn their ways

Jaime Gallego

At Breakfast they just sternly looked at the table while eating

John Rennie

@Slereah Edgy - I'd delete that ...

Secret

@JohnRennie Random thing about that in my life: Usually when I and aquitance and + encounter each other, we will say hi everytime as if it is some kind of recognition gesture between two spies. This is so common that when they stopped saying hi and they are not in a hurry to something or look depressed, then it is often a sign the social relation have decayed

say hi = wave hands, smile etc.

Slereah

5:40 PM

ACuriousMind

@Slereah My superhero name is The Dread Kraut

John Rennie

@Secret it's not social decay to be uninterested in people who are of no interest to you

Slereah

When you read early 20th century french books, people were really peeved at the whole Alsace Lorraine thing

Secret

(well the + means aquitance or above, thus it does happen to some of my classmates and friends sometimes)

Tanuj

@JohnRennie question

Balarka Sen

5:42 PM

John Rennie

@Tanuj Here or Problem Solving?

0celo7

@ACuriousMind do you acknowledge the other perseon’s existence

Tanuj

@JohnRennie here would be good

Lozansky

If $f$ is a continuous, $2\pi$ periodic function where $f(x+\pi) = f(x)$ for $x\in [-\pi,\pi]$, does that in some way imply the Fourier series is $\sum_{n\geq 1} c_n e^{inx}$?

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Amazing

Lozansky

5:43 PM

I don't see why it isn't $\sum_{n\in \mathbb{Z}} c_n e^{inx}$

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 A curt nod is an acceptable way of greeting any but your closest friends

Secret

@JohnRennie More accurately, when those aquitances, classmates and friends are interested in me, they will often say hi. So when one day they don't say it and the circumstances cannot excuse them, then it is a sign social decay occurs.

Tanuj

@JohnRennie any ideas ?

Secret

of course, one such scenario of excusing is we don't quite recognise each other until bumped into each other again in some event

Anonymous

@Secret Yeah, I know. It can get real complicated. That's why I prefer to hide till they pass XD

0celo7

5:45 PM

@ACuriousMind seems like a show of weakness.

John Rennie

@Tanuj it's a bit late in the day for thermodynamics. I'll have a look tomorrow if you haven't already solved it by then.

Jaime Gallego

@Secret Or they just have a bad day, or they don't feel like it...

Tanuj

@JohnRennie okay sure.

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 Having close friends? Definitely /s

Secret

Meanwhile, my subconscious don't really trust people, thus I use all these cues over the span of 1-2 years to monitor the health of my social relationships. They sometimes can get detailed enough to allow me to plot time series of our social relationships

@JaimeGallego the former is included as part of the excuse, the latter... welll... I never thought about that

Jaime Gallego

5:47 PM

'There's also a spike on the Fourier transform at the one-month mark where --' 'You want to stop talking right now.'

0celo7

@ACuriousMind no, nodding to random people.

Secret

these graphs are quite interesting though. Some of these are like delta functions, some of these are sinusodial, and one of these is a linear decay.

Anonymous

@Secret But well, things get much simpler when you stop bothering about what others are thinking of you, and you just go on doing your tasks. From what I know about you, you seem to over-analyze actions/thought-processes of other people

Secret

Actually in general, I often over analyse pretty much anything without awaring. But in general, I don't really udnerstood people well

Anonymous

Nobody does. Some pretend to and some just don't care about understanding.

Jaime Gallego

5:49 PM

"Ey baby, wanna have a Kronecker delta night and never see each other again?"

Bernardo Meurer

@JaimeGallego How's it going

Secret

Btw, most people (e.g. half of my undergrad classmates that met in 1st year but all decayed away by the time 3rd year is reached) have this characteirstic bell curve shape:

Jaime Gallego

@BernardoMeurer Eventually I'm staying here to study.

Went to an uni visit the other day

Secret

Anonymous

@JaimeGallego Where? BTW congrats!

Secret

5:52 PM

This decay is so universal and inevidable I just joked that as the Second Law of Relationship Decay

Bernardo Meurer

@JaimeGallego Which uni?

Jaime Gallego

The UAM

Same one AFT went to for undergrad, I think

Anonymous

Full form?

Bernardo Meurer

I've heard good things of UAM

Jaime Gallego

Universidad Autónoma de Madrid

Anonymous

5:53 PM

Autonomous University of Madrid

The Autonomous University of Madrid (Spanish: Universidad Autónoma de Madrid; informally La Autónoma), commonly known by the Spanish acronym UAM, is a Spanish public university established in 1968. It is located in northern Madrid; its main campus, Cantoblanco, is located near the cities of Alcobendas, San Sebastián de los Reyes and Tres Cantos. Throughout its history, UAM has been one of Spain's most prominent higher education institutions, being ranked first amongst Spanish universities by the El Mundo University Supplement (known as "Las 50 Carreras"), by The Times Higher Education Supplement...

Anonymous

Looks good. Have a good time :)

Anonymous

Congrats again!

Jaime Gallego

It's also really close

Like two stops by train

Secret

anyway I am going to sleep. busy day tomorrow

Bernardo Meurer

@JaimeGallego That'd be a horrible anti-feature for me :P

Jaime Gallego

5:54 PM

@BernardoMeurer I plan on enrolling in Erasmus and going to Eastern Europe

For a while anyway

Bernardo Meurer

Why Eastern Europe? O.o

Go hang out with the Nikas

Jaime Gallego

Haha

No, more like Austria or Latvia

Bernardo Meurer

Jesus don't go to uni in Latvia

Austria, sure

Germany

Jaime Gallego

@BernardoMeurer Electronics practice is potato battery

Ah well

I haven't researched that much

There's like a full year before I can decide

This one looks good

Charles University

Charles University, known also as Charles University in Prague (Czech: Univerzita Karlova; Latin: Universitas Carolina; German: Karls-Universität) or historically as the University of Prague (Latin: Universitas Pragensis), is the oldest and largest university in Czechia. Founded in 1348, it was the first university in Central Europe. It is one of the oldest universities in Europe in continuous operation and ranks in the upper 1.5 percent of the world’s best universities. Its seal shows its protector Emperor Charles IV, with his coats of arms as King of the Romans and King of Bohemia, kneeling in...

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