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12:03 AM
@ACuriousMind @Slereah Here's a paper talking about the horizon being possibly RP^2 arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9410023
 
Hello all! Is anyone familiar with a solution to the Einstein field equations that could represent some spiral structure. For example a galaxy?
 
12:22 AM
Could someone give a hint here? For instance, is the angle between the hand and the crowbar 70?i.imgur.com/1Zi2WCc.png
 
rob
@JoeStavitsky That seems to be implied by the figure, yes
 
@rob, ok, but then how can I find length of the arm to the nail?
 
rob
@JoeStavitsky I see three lengths in that figure.
Hand to pivot (two perpendicular components) and pivot to nail.
 
@Rob, right. So pivot to nail is not the arm right?
 
rob
@JoeStavitsky The angle of the nail will also matter when you compute that torque.
 
12:35 AM
@Rob wouldn't I just have to assume that the angle between nail and crowbar is 90?
 
rob
@JoeStavitsky I think that's a safe assumption.
 
@rob OK TY
 
rob
@JoeStavitsky You're welcome.
 
1:02 AM
^Android dev All day
Keeping it tight
 
Motl (praise) talking about taking Zitterbewegung seriously being a misunderstanding of QM motls.blogspot.com/2011/10/…
 
1:19 AM
@bolbteppa is he right?
@Semiclassical I'm starting a new project today. Do you have a good way to organize research and whatnot
I think I want to write some notes but don't want to make a book or have a dozen TeX files either
 
one thing i'm trying out recently is Overleaf
and beyond the obvious online editor which is nice, it's also a decent place to organize projects
if you want something more elaborate than that, i dunno
 
1:39 AM
He's probably right, idk enough about Zitter yet
 
2:06 AM
My god relativistic quantum mechanics is madness, the 'bare charge' of an electron becomes modified into a 'physical charge' due to the charge density of anti-particles in the Dirac sea near the electron being slightly polarized away from equilibrium due to electrostatic repulsion of electrons and sea positrons, but near the electron the bare charge takes over, and this literally shows up in the relativistic Hydrogen atom spectrum and modifies the Lamb shift, qft just ignores all of this...
 
2:51 AM
@bolbteppa, I agree that "zitterbewegung is a local circulatory motion" should not be taken literally. It would suggest that, for example, the spin rate of a spinning massive particle should depend on the particle's potential energy in a Coulomb field. It does depend on the particle's gravitational potential, probably by just the right amount (due to gravitational red shift); but not on its electrostatic potential. However, "local circular motion" is not the only possible interpretation.
@bolbteppa, here is some indirect experimental evidence that zbw is physical: [iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/15/7/073011/meta]
 
@S.McGrew there's no gravity involved, doing qft = QM + special relativity only
It seems to be debatable whether those experiments mean Zwitter was observed, e.g. phys.lsu.edu/graceland/faculty/oconnell/PDFfiles/316.pdf so not sure how to interpret those claims in the wiki yet
 
3:23 AM
Does anyone have any good references for different methods of seeking exact vacuum solutions to the Einstein field equations?
 
@bolbteppa, I understand that gravity is not normally a topic of discussion re zbw. I was making an argument against interpreting zbw as circular motion by contrasting what would be expected in the zbw frequency for a particular kind of test particle at different electrostatic potentials vs different gravitational potentials.
 
@Dawood Sorry for the late response. Let me attempt to respond. Typically one imagines learning from retrieved and stored data. Perhaps splitting it into a training set and testing set for several reasons. When I use words like *real-time * , I am attempting to emphasize active retreaval and learning on incoming data. One can imagine updating and back propagating from live camera footage or something.
@DawoodibnKareem I am developing tools, for eating facebook data and spitting out plausible data in real time building off of standard algorithms, whose names I choose to withhold. I am bad at conveying ideas, but I hope my response was somewhat parseable
 
They are now trying to look for sulfur bacteria in the clouds of Venus
 
3:54 AM
@bolbteppa The point is that zbw frequency (zbwf), physical or not, is a direct function of a particle's total energy -- which of course is the sum of its potential energy, rest mass energy, kinetic energy, etc. It seems that zbw is like the ticking of a clock, and that "clock" should somehow represent the whole particle regardless of its internal structure(or lack thereof). A spinning mass with a charge has one obvious clock: its rotation rate.
@bolbteppa If that rotation rate changes differently depending on what kind of potential field it moves in, then it seems zbwf should do the same. But apparently it doesn't. So, it's not obvious how circular motion (at least in the ordinary sense) could be the physical basis of zbw.
 
I wonder if we can go further, by making certain aperiodic observables periodic so that this technique can be used on them to squeeze them in the range of interest
 
4:14 AM
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Q: Is there an efficient way to search all questions and answers in Physics StackExchange?

S. McGrewIs there an efficient way to search all questions and answers in Physics StackExchange? "Help" says to use the search box that's in the upper right hand corner of every page. There's no search box there. Is it because I'm using the Firefox browser? Is there another way?

 
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Q: What physical laws would need to change?

CatersMy fictional worlds reside in a multiverse. More specifically, they reside in a universe within that multiverse that is very similar to ours. But here are some big differences: White holes are in equilibrium with black holes This is the complete penrose diagram for an eternal black hole wit...

Migrate to world building SE?
 
 
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5:51 AM
@Cows You seem to have mistaken my joke for a serious remark. I shall make better use of emoticons next time :-P
 
 
1 hour later…
7:03 AM
@DawoodibnKareem Can't blame him, because "time machine" has a legitimate meaning in his work that has nothing to do with the scifi notion of "time machine"
 
No, I'm blaming myself. Not enough emoticons. :-<
 
lol
 
 
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8:11 AM
@Abcd Hi ! Have you studied capacitors ?
 
@Tanuj I will start my 12th course next Monday...
 
@Abcd oh okay.Good luck.
 
8:54 AM
@Tanuj If you have a question about something, just ask it. Abcd might not answer it, but somebody else probably will.
 
@DawoodibnKareem @Secret is helping me.
 
Big if true
 
Secretly.
 
9:11 AM
in Room for Tanuj and Secret, 19 secs ago, by Secret
all looks fine except somehow the $\epsilon_0$ and $d$ are missing
 
$\epsilon_0=d=1$
 
ugh, it has been more than 4 years since I last do electromagnetism (and even back then, it is the worst performing subject of mine besides GR)
 
nice couch
looks like the patterns on bus seats
 
Apparently in the Kepler $U = - \alpha / r$ problem, because $E = - \frac{m \alpha^2}{2(I_r + I_{\theta})^2}$, where $I_r , I_{\theta}$ are adiabatic invariants you can get from the Hamilton-Jacobi equation, the energy is degenerate, and so you can expect an extra conserved quantity besides energy and angular momentum, but why $A$ takes the form it does is a mystery, though the picture is nice and seems to make it clear
Maybe $p \times L$ is somehow related to $I_{\theta}$ and $mk \hat{r}$ to $I_r$ :(
In classical mechanics, the Laplace–Runge–Lenz vector (or simply the LRL vector) is a vector used chiefly to describe the shape and orientation of the orbit of one astronomical body around another, such as a planet revolving around a star. For two bodies interacting by Newtonian gravity, the LRL vector is a constant of motion, meaning that it is the same no matter where it is calculated on the orbit; equivalently, the LRL vector is said to be conserved. More generally, the LRL vector is conserved in all problems in which two bodies interact by a central force that varies as the inverse square of...
Parabolic coordinates, my dude...
 
9:45 AM
"Ron Maimon left the site in december 2012 after being banned and censored. After him, others followed, both professionals and simple readers who had enjoyed the site mainly because of Ron's posts, or simply because that incident revealed a level of moderators control they don't want to accept."
Ron Maimon was PSE all along
 
I can't imagine Ron not having a blog. Can't those people just go there?
And ... has anyone ever seen Ron Maimon and John Duffield in the same room? Just saying!
 
We need Ron, John and Lubos all at the same time
Star if you agree
and want that to happen
 
There was a time I found out about his situation and definitely sided with him in that whole thing, I'd be surprised if that stance changed if I remembered the details but I don't care, still those posts are pretty incredible at times
 
I imagine that John would dislike Luboš, Luboš would dislike Ron, and Ron would dislike John. But who knows? Maybe they're triplets separated at birth.
 
As long as everybody discusses string theory, everything should be fine
 
9:50 AM
I'm guessing Lubos would most certainly dislike JD
 
Please don't star that. The thought of the three of them arguing is too horrible to contemplate :-)
 
I don't know enough about Maimon to judge for that
 
Anonymous
@Slereah They already had a war on Lubos' blog :P
 
Oh man
link please
 
@bolbteppa The thing about Stack Exchange administrators is that so much stuff happens that the rest of us don't see. If you think you know what happened in the saga of Ron Maimon, or any similar incident, you've most likely just seen one side of what happened. My experience is that the Stack Exchange administrators are extremely patient and go above and beyond to make sure everyone is treated fairly.
@JohnRennie Maybe vzn could adjudicate.
 
ahaha
Duff is famous
Oh my god ahaha
 
Anonymous
@Slereah Oops. It wasn't Lubos' blog, but Dorigo's. See the comments' section
 
@0celo7 mentioned in the comments to one of those ahaha
"innocent young cheer and playfull student"
 
Haha, if Motl called me a psychopath, I'd take it as a compliment. It's the "marginal figure" moniker that would sting.
 
he's not wrong
 
9:56 AM
Here is a good Ron post
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A: Was there some phenomenological motivation for Ramond and Neveu-Swarz models?

Ron MaimonThe statement that bosonic strings came first and Fermionic strings came later is not exactly correct as history. Fermionic strings came almost simultaneously, when Ramond discovered the two dimensional super-conformal algebra in 1971. Ramond style string theories did not have space-time supersy...

 
Where are all the cool dudes these days anyway
Physics Overflow?
 
Anonymous
PO is ded
 
Let's make our own website!
Let's call it... physics... cool... website
I don't know
 
Anonymous
I don't care about names. We just need the Motl Sun God logo
 
Anonymous
And people will flock to the website
 
9:59 AM
Also let's ban all homework questions and cranks
And you have to perform an integral to join
 
Anonymous
crank filter? :P
 
It's a good thing Luboš Motl wasn't born in USA. He strikes me as the natural successor to Donald Trump.
 
precursor
 
Anonymous
@DawoodibnKareem I want to star that so bad ^
 
I notice that people from the ex-soviet block tends to be very conservative
I guess they tend to have a grudge against socialism
 
10:04 AM
I'm going to purge the star board of the comments about John Duffield. Ideally you should restrict yourself to insulting him to his face.
 
Will do!
 
@Slereah Is it true that the socialism movement back in USSR and Maoism is actually totalitarian capitalism of sorts as Mao and Stalin took over the workers?
 
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Anonymous
BTW I was planning to write up a meta post about quality regulation of questions on this site (after talking to ACM last day)....but not sure what to put in
 
Anonymous
10:08 AM
Basically the first priority would be deal with the non-researched/badly-formatted hw posts which get through
 
@Blue over the years there have been many many posts about the quality of questions on the site, and I don't think any of them havemade any difference.
People will post what they will post and there's nothing we can do about it. The close queue is already so long that my 25 close votes a day just disappear into it with hardly a ripple.
 
Anonymous
It pains me to see questions like this getting through, though: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/396879/… :/
 
Anonymous
@JohnRennie I mean, shouldn't we be worried about the quality decline of the site?
 
Anonymous
I don't see many interesting QAs or expert level answers these days
 
Anonymous
It wouldn't bother me much, because I hardly use (or visit) the main site much. But it feels bad to see such a potentially good site go waste
 
10:12 AM
Some vile beast of Satan just downvoted one of my answers. And it was a particularly good answer too!
 
Not Nice
 
I don't think there's much to be done
 
@Blue 10% of everything is rubbish. As we get more questions we get more rubbish questions. That's life.
 
PSE abides by the SE rules and those are unlikely to change
 
@Blue actually I wouldn't say that's a bad question. It's a beginner's question, but we were all beginners once.
 
10:15 AM
In physics, matrix string theory is a set of equations that describe superstring theory in a non-perturbative framework. Type IIA string theory can be shown to be equivalent to a maximally supersymmetric two-dimensional gauge theory, the gauge group of which is U(N) for a large value of N. This matrix string theory was first proposed by Luboš Motl in 1997 and later independently in a more complete paper by Robbert Dijkgraaf, Erik Verlinde, and Herman Verlinde. Another matrix string theory equivalent to Type IIB string theory was constructed in 1996 by Ishibashi, Kawai, Kitazawa and Tsuchiya. This...
 
In my experience there isn't much you can do to help a community short of having competent people doing it
 
@Secret What movement?
 
I've seen many wikis and similar sites fail because they thought crowdsourcing meant they didn't have to work too much
 
Anonymous
@JohnRennie That's not the problem. The problem is the question is a one-liner and the OP didn't even try to google it once. ACM told me to downvote it, but I think it is just shoving things under the rug. I have no issues with beginner questions, but they should at least show some motivation.
 
@JohnRennie Satan's minions just don't appreciate good physics.
 
10:16 AM
Why did I skip the parabolic coordinates section, the LRL vector was there the whole time :'(
 
Workers and farmers in USSR during Stalin's era were too busy drowning in exploitation and oppression and famine to start any movement whatsoever
 
@DawoodibnKareem :-)
 
@JohnRennie Or they found out about you getting to 116 on x.se.
 
Anonymous
The thing is, keeping the question bar a bit high helps. Like Stack Overflow is actively doing nowadays
 
Hi guys! Does any one know if there is any connection with a potential \phi that satisfies a Laplace equation and the Einstein field equations where the metric tensor components are dependent on phi? i.e. is there a take home message when the metric tensor components are of the form g_{\mu\nu} \phi.
 
10:20 AM
@BalarkaSen socialism?
 
I don't understand what that even means.
 
aka communism
 
Sorry, 118.
 
What was this "socialist movement" that you talk about that "happened in USSR"? Are you talking about the communist revolution or what?
"happened in USSR" is a strange adjective to add then
 
yeah, and I got a lot of confusing information about that part of history
 
10:22 AM
**** That last part should read g_{\mu\nu} (\phi)
 
@BalarkaSen Some said the communist revolution starts out successfully with the workers controlling, but then later they dissolved and then Stalin took over
a similar thing happened in China during Mao's rule
and thus the whole thing becomes a totalitarian capitalism of sorts
but I also heard other friends of mine that said that is not true
What actually happened back there?
 
@Rumplestillskin how can a metric be a function of a three potential?
 
@Rumplestillskin that's the Einstein Nordstrom theory
A scalar theory equivalent to conformally flat spacetimeq
 
@dactylo Congratulations.
 
Anonymous
10:25 AM
Same message at the same time in so many chat rooms. That's worrying.
 
Anonymous
Ah, good ban
 
Anonymous
Spamming the main sites will be a bit difficult for you @dactylo. There are some time-period restrictions between two consecutive posts at your rep
 
Well you can have a potential that is a harmonic function. Then you can set up a line element where the unknowns metric coefficients to be determined are functions of phi? @JohnRennie
 
@Blue some kind of bot I'm guessing
 
Anonymous
Yeah. And 26 rep is useless for spamming anyway :P You need to wait 40 minutes between consecutive posts
 
10:28 AM
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@Slereah do you know any solutions of the field equations that could represent a spiral structure for e.g. a galaxy?
 
Anonymous
I'd like to see the DDoS attack though! :D
 
@JohnRennie Do you not think there could be some sort of relationship between a the potential satisfying a Laplace equations and the vacuum field equations?
 
@Rumplestillskin no
Too asymmetric to have a proper solution
Best bet is an axisymmetric solution
@Rumplestillskin the newtonian limit
 
@Rumplestillskin the Laplace equation isn't covariant (at least I don't think it is)
 
10:41 AM
It's not wrt relativity, no
But in the classical limit it's all good
 
What do you mean wrt to relativity?@Slereah
 
[Random]
Allanis
 
With respect to
 
No I mean what do you mean that the Laplacian is not covariant wrt to relativity?
 
well it's not covariant under a boost
Or any transformation mixing time and space, as can be expected from a classical equation
 
10:46 AM
@Secret It's not at all a single event, it spanned over the full year of 1917-18. The February revolution started as workers rioting and calling strikes and accumulated to armed clashes when the Russian Army switched sides. The Tsar resigned, so a provisional government was made.
There's a chain of events that leads to October revolution, where Lenin and the Bolsheviks revolted against the provisional government itself. And that was not a smooth ride either; immediately follows the Civil War between the whole spectrum of socialists (along with others) who were against the Bolsheviks. But the Red Army overpowered. The Tsar and his family was executed shortly afterwards.
And that's just the central part of the distribution if you plot the frequency of the revolution vs. time.
 
Ah it's not Lorentz invariant? @Slereah
 
Well no
 
 
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12:03 PM
@DawoodibnKareem : I'm not Ron Maimon.
@Slereah : as you can see on his blog and elsewhere, he definitely does.
@bolbteppa : there are no "negative energy states", and no Dirac sea. But there is a local circulatory motion. Why do you think the electron moves the way it does in a magnetic field? Read Classical Precession of the Angular Momentum Vector by Nicholas Turro.
@Akoben : are you in for a surprise!
@JohnRennie : "In fact for r<2M the outbound velocity is negative". No it isn't. Light can't go slower than stopped.
@JohnRennie : "Ideally you should restrict yourself to insulting him to his face." Whatever happened to that be nice policy?
Tell us again about the book on my table, and how it's accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s². Secret's book in Australia is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s², and my book in England is accelerating upwards 9.8m/s². But in the opposite direction. So those two books are flying apart with a relative acceleration of 19.6m/s². N'est pas?
 
12:28 PM
Why do you keep hiding behind this so called "be nice policy?" @JohnDuffield if you want respect get it the old fashion way and earn it, my friend :-)
 
@skullpatrol : I'm not hiding behind anything. I'm not anonymous, and I make it my business to be civil. As for earning respect, I'm working on it.
 
ok, thanks for trying
\o @nitsua60
 
I've written a series of "physics detective" essays that will hopefully explain a few things. I plan to set post them all up on the internet at some point.
 
cool
Hawking's daughter did something like that, no?
 
I don't know I'm afraid.
 
12:40 PM
George's Secret Key to the Universe is a 2007 children's book written by Lucy and Stephen Hawking with Christophe Galfard. The book was followed by four sequels, George's Cosmic Treasure Hunt in 2009, George and the Big Bang in 2011, George and the Unbreakable Code in 2014 and George and the Blue Moon in 2016. It is intended for readers aged 9 and up. == Synopsis == The main characters in the book are Susan Focker, Larry Focker, George, Eric, Annie, Dr. Reeper, and Cosmos, the world's most powerful computer. Cosmos can draw windows allowing people to look into outer space, as well as doors which...
 
@JohnRennie Obligatory response of a real /m/usic enthusiast to your table answer: youtu.be/C25L4P79wY8?t=142
 
cc @ACuriousMind^
 
@skullpatrol : the article also says this: "But surprisingly, much of the fictional story isn't scientifically accurate. This might be forgivable in straight sci-fi or fantasy ... but in a book that purports to teach the basics of astronomy and physics, it's just confusing -- how are young readers to know what's true, what's theoretical, and what's just plain nonsense?".
 
Lou Reed is a true poet
 
Hey John
 
12:48 PM
@Slereah little known Jimi Hendrix track?
 
I'm afraid I don't know enough Jimi Hendrix to get that joke
 
Sigh
 
Feeling old?
 
@Slereah did you get the answer you need from peters book
 
12:50 PM
though to be fair I was never really much into the popular music
@0celo7 No I went to bed
and then to work
because such is life
 
Hey John, where you goin' with that non-covariant concept in your hand?
Doesn't really scan
 
lol
 
Though I suppose I could look at it
not doing much
 
If motl started a cult I’d join.
 
Mar 21 at 11:18, by disposed to learn
18 hours ago, by Secret
> 4.) Be humble about your own speculative, unproven ideas. This is a pitfall that has afflicted many of the greatest minds throughout scientific history: to fall in love with their own fringe scientific ideas so thoroughly that you tout them with the certainty normally reserved for verified, validated, robust theories. Hawking's no-boundary proposal is speculative and unproven, yet Hawking will often (including in A Brief History Of Time) speak about it with the same certainty he'd speak about black holes. Ideas like baby Universes, a unifying theory of everything, and higher dimensions ma
 
12:56 PM
Hopefully I can start doing more physics again once all that real estate business is concluded
Lots of paperwork and packing to do
 
@skullpatrol : Hawking's early papers make interesting reading. One example is singularities and the geometry of spacetime dating from 1966.
As is his 1969 paper on singularities in collapsing stars and expanding universes. it was co-uthored with his supervisor Dennis Sciama. You can read that "the surface is in such a strong gravitational field that even light is dragged inwards".
 
1:12 PM
So
If a manifold of constant negative curvature is compact, it's not maximally symmetric
Same goes for zero curvature
What are the possible topologies for maximally symmetric manifolds?
Or are they unique for $n > 1$?
Since both $\mathbb R$ and $S$ are maximally symmetric
But I think this fails for $n > 1$ because it will break isotropy
 
We do argue it is a lot peaceful time during his absence, but anything that can constrain Him is welcome
 
Oh btw
@0celo7
Riddle me this
If I take a maximally symmetric manifold
and I remove a random section of it
Is it still maximally symmetric?
 
But as The Dream predicted, the chat may soon go down the paths of Mos Eisley, and yet The Library remains incomplete
 
The vector field is still defined, and still obeys the Killing equation
Ringström does require the constraint that manifolds be geodesically complete
 
idk, maximally symmetric spaces aren't something I've had to deal with
 
1:23 PM
Well this should apply to any Killing field, really
Define a manifold with some Killing field
 
did you watch that blow out finish to march madness @dmckee?
 
Remove some closed set from the manifold
Is the manifold still symmetric wrt that Killing field
Although...
I guess the difference might be how the Killing field act
Like if I remove some closed set, it will still be a Killing field, but the isometries might not be the same
The rotation will cease to have proper orbits and whatnot
Yeah I think that will be the issue
The action of the Killing field will no longer be isomorphic to the rotation group
 
1:44 PM
Hm, what is even the definition of a rotation and translation in terms of Killing vectors
Is it just isometries that act freely on the manifold and ones with a stabilizer
"About a months ago, John Duffield successfully got an innocent young cheer and playfull student called Ocelot7 banned from the hbar for a damn whole month"
So sweet
 
Anonymous
@Slereah Where did you find that? Lol
 
Acuriousmind's advice may be effective when telling some pushy people to calm down, but it may not work in that current scenario where bluish greens are the root cause of some problem of shadows
But like all shadows, it is certain some times The Devouring will happen
And with that, revenge will be served absolute zero and he will exist no more
just like most of the tribunations in the past...
 
Anonymous
"young, cheer and playfull"---the farthest one could get from a correct description of 0celo :P
 
A rosy-cheeked rapscallion he is
 
1:53 PM
@Blue certainly a lot closer compared to the grinch trait of Slereahs
 
what the hell are you saying @Blue
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
 
Did Dilaton used to come here?
I don't remember him
 
actual picture of @Slereah with hawking and ellis
 
its me
 
It is proven we speak with an incomprehensible language that took at least 3 hours of deliberate effort to translate to human readable language, but that cannot be blamed for we are distinct compared to the homo sapiens
 
1:55 PM
I hear that the best three words that describe me are stink, stank and stunk
 
Anonymous
@Secret Slereah admitted that he is Scrooge a long time ago
 
@Blue lol
 
also how am I not playful
I don't think you know anything about me @Blue
I'm seriously offended
 
the grinch that stole "The Evidence" :P
 
Anonymous
You taking offense is proof that you are not "cheer and playfull" ;)
 
1:56 PM
Hawking Ellis isn't the Evidence
It's the Wrong GR!
 
what is the Right GR then
 
I'm not sure
Probably the Einstein papers
 
GRRRRRinch :D
 
I wonder what the first GR book was
Possibly Weyl's book
 
Weyl.
 
1:59 PM
Space-time-matter
 
Raum-Zeit-Materie you blasphemer
 

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