The h Bar

5:01 AM

@JohnRennie why, doesn't UK have cloudy skies? Well, there the climate is not tropical monsoon unlike India. Here, we're always (mostly) seeing clouds.

skullpatrol

He's was being sarcastic about the weather.

John Rennie

I was :-)

The UK is not famous for its sunny weather :-)

Wrichik Basu

OK. I see. :-)

Secret

[Philosophy]
On postmordernism
Actually, if you look closely on it, there really exists one hierarchical power structure in reality even in the absence of a society:
Reality itself and certain truths/falsehoods
They are those where if you even disagree 1% about them, you die because of the laws of physics, biology etc.

skullpatrol

The lack of sunny days in the UK explains why only Mad dogs and english men go out in the midday sun :-)

Personally, I prefer rain.

John Rennie

5:18 AM

I suspect the rain is warm where you are. In the UK it's cold as well as wet!

Actually it doesn't rain all that much in the UK, or at least not in my part of the UK.

Wrichik Basu

@skullpatrol I'm completely against rain if I'm outside, else it's OK. I got wet one day, had cold, and mother also has cold from me, it turned into cough, and she had to be admitted in the hospital last Wednesday. I literally fear rain now!

skullpatrol

:(

John Rennie

Although the weather looks lively today :-)

GPhys

@JohnRennie Finding the Sunny weather prediction is like Where's Waldo

Wrichik Basu

Ours is not good weather today:

m.accuweather.com/en/in/kolkata/206690/current-weather/…

skullpatrol

5:22 AM

Yeah, that's a lot of lightening @JohnRennie

Wrichik Basu

Can you people view mathjax on chat rooms? I could never view it on mobile :-(

skullpatrol

Yes.

Wrichik Basu

What can I do about this issue? It's becoming irritating.

skullpatrol

math.ucla.edu/~robjohn/math/mathjax.html

@WrichikBasu^

Wrichik Basu

It doesn't work. I clicked on start mathjax, then returned, and same thing again.

skullpatrol

5:37 AM

How are you installing it?

$e^{i\pi}+1=0$
$$\sum_{n=0}^\infty\binom{n}{k}x^n=\frac{x^k}{(1-x)^{k+1}}\tag{1}$$

Wrichik Basu

Yes, copying that link given at the bottom of the page you linked.

Secret

$\aleph_{\omega}^{\sum_{i=1}\int_{\aleph_{2}f(x)dx}^{\beth_5}}$

Wrichik Basu

Doesn't work. :-(

John Rennie

I have a feeling it doesn't work on mobile ...

I think I remember someone saying that. I've never tried using the site on mobile so I can't comment.

skullpatrol

It works on mobile for me.

John Rennie

5:46 AM

Using the mobile version of the site or the desktop version?

skullpatrol

Mobile version.

John Rennie

Hmm.

skullpatrol

You must follow the instructions carefully to bookmark it @WrichikBasu

John Rennie

@WrichikBasu: do you have a render Mathjax link? If so try that. It does a one off redraw of the page using MathJax.

Wrichik Basu

@JohnRennie no, I'll try that.

Nope. Not working either.

John Rennie

5:50 AM

What does your render Mathjax link look like i.e. what is the JavaScript behind it?

Mine is:

javascript:(function(){if(window.MathJax===undefined)
{var script = document.createElement("script");script.type = "text/javascript";script.src = "https://cdn.mathjax.org/mathjax/latest/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS_HTML";var config = %27MathJax.Hub.Config({%27 + %27extensions: ["tex2jax.js"],%27 + %27tex2jax: { inlineMath: [["$","$"],["\\\\\\\\\\\\(","\\\\\\\\\\\\)"]], displayMath: [["$$","$$"],["\\\\[","\\\\]"]], processEscapes: true },%27 + %27jax: ["input/TeX","output/HTML-CSS"]%27 + %27});%27 + %27MathJax.Hub.Startup.onload();%27;if (window.opera) {script.innerHTML = config} else {script.t…

skullpatrol

If your browser cannot add bookmarks using drag-and-drop or a contextual
menu, add a bookmark as instructed below. Execute this bookmark from the
chat window to start ChatJax.

1. Copy the text from the box below.
2. Create a bookmark to this (or any) page.
3. Replace the contents of the bookmark URL with the copied text.
4. Edit the bookmark title if you wish.

@WrichikBasu are you using an apple device?

Wrichik Basu

No, Android, chrome browser.

skullpatrol

Try IE

Wrichik Basu

@skullpatrol what's that?

skullpatrol

Oops

John Rennie

5:56 AM

@skullpatrol I don't think IE is available for Android.

skullpatrol

Maybe, reboot @WrichikBasu

Wrichik Basu

@skullpatrol tried a lot, even that. No hope. :-((

I can view math on the main site, but not on the chat.

skullpatrol

Try switching to the desk top version.

You need to activate the bookmark everytime by clicking on it. @WrichikBasu

and reactivate it if you leave

$e^{i\pi}+1=0$

Wrichik Basu

6:15 AM

@skullpatrol it's working on the linked site, but not here. Leave it. I'll do without it.

This is what I'm seeing even after activating the chat jax.

skullpatrol

:-/ strange

Physics Meta

6:43 AM

0

Q: questions completely disappearng

Yesterday there was a question which I answered, and the answer got two downvotes, so I tried to understand what I was not communicating well. The question was about "energy conservation appearing because of field theory". There were a number of comments to my answer by AccidentalFourierTransfor...

discussion

Sid

7:11 AM

@WrichikBasu after so much pestering by you, I ate fish today

John Rennie

Was it nice?

Sid

Suffice to say my experience was better than the last time I ate that.

John Rennie

You mean you didn't nearly die this time? :-)

Sid

No, I didn't. :-)

John Rennie

Yes, I can see how that would be an improvement :-)

skullpatrol

7:13 AM

What kind of fish?

Sid

Whatever the people at the mess gave. I have no idea

John Rennie

Your canteen serves unidentified fish?

Sid

Well, no one really inquiries about that.

skullpatrol

Glad to hear you're over the traumatic experience

There's a lot of fish in the sea :-D

John Rennie

If they won't even identify what fish it is that doesn't bode well for the taste ...

Sid

7:18 AM

Yeah, well.. We don't care for the taste as long as they give sufficient quantity to eat

@skullpatrol I am still a little apprehensive though.

skullpatrol

...let's not discriminate against any particular species of fish or where they came from :P

John Rennie

@Sid well I suppose quantity has a quality all of its own

skullpatrol

At least you took the first step, pal @Sid

After how many years?

Sid

4 years. If you are asking, "after how many years I ate fish?"

skullpatrol

yup

Wrichik Basu

7:30 AM

@Sid that's a good try, but if you are scared, you shouldn't try the experiment, simply becoz you're in a mess, and in case of sudden problems of choking, hospitalisation may be a problem. But still, trying is good :-)

I'm not, in any way, discouraging you, but be very careful.

Secret

$Fish^{Fish^{Fish^{Fish^{Salmon}}}}$

Wrichik Basu

Somebody here is bent upon digging a Salmon's grave :-D

John Rennie

If your only criterion is that whatever you eat there has to be a lot of it then I guess it doesn't matter whether you eat fish or not :-)

The truth about the so-called eclipse!

Balarka Sen

8:54 AM

@0celo Galois theory is very geometric.

Do you know anything about covering spaces?

Wrichik Basu

9:16 AM

Can anyone explain this to me? I'm reading molecular structures and all related theories like VSEPR, and hybridisation and etc. Now, if someone finds a new molecule that hasn't been discovered yet. How does one find the structures of these new molecules experimentally? Using processes like spectroscopy? How are bond lengths calculated experimentally?

John Rennie

9:43 AM

Typically you would crystallise the compound and determine its structure using X-ray crystallography.

If you want you can then measure bond lengths and angles in the gaseous form using rotational spectroscopy.

@Kaumudi.H: in case you come looking for me to discuss the laptop I have to go out for about an hour. Back around 12:00 British summer time (16:30 your time I think).

Alex K Chen

I have a physics confusion, may I ask it here ?

(Or is it considered rude asking in chat ?)

(Not long, but short)

John Rennie

@AlexKChen Hi Alex you're welcome to ask.

Wrichik Basu

10:07 AM

@JohnRennie i see. Long process.

Secret

11:04 AM

0

Q: Unobservable degrees of freedom- Zero value vs. undefined

(Ref. book Quantum Mechanics- The Theoretical Minimum) I've been reading about how the foundations of logic are different in quantum physics from those in the classical realm. The author states that a statement like "$\sigma_x = +1$ AND $\sigma_z = +1$" cannot be verified experimentally, since w...

quantum-mechanics quantum-interpretations degrees-of-freedom

Zero vs does not exist, seemed to be an important distinction in theory building

John Rennie

Look at these beauties:

Beef with chopped ham and black pepper. Those are destinated to be my lunch later today!

skullpatrol

All four?

Sid

Only four?

John Rennie

They are 6oz burgers! I can't eat more than four at a time :-)

Sid

Also, Beef and Ham together? :o

John Rennie

11:14 AM

I guess beef is a no no in India ...

Sid

Well, anything other than Chicken, Mutton, fish, prawn,lobster is a no-no. :-)

and egg

@JohnRennie But, doesn't beef and ham together in a single meal make it too heavy?

John Rennie

Do Indians not eat pork?

Sid

@JohnRennie It's not popular enough. to respect religious sentiments and so on and so forth

skullpatrol

Muslims don't.

John Rennie

@Sid no, it works very well. Beefburgers can be a bit solid if they contain just beef, but putting finely chopped ham in breaks up the texture a bit and makes them more crumbly.

And the falvour of the ham works very well with the beef.

Sid

11:17 AM

@JohnRennie Beef is eaten in parts of Goa and Nagaland, I think.

John Rennie

All you need now is a religion that bans the eating of sheep and you're left with chicken and seafood!

Sid

@JohnRennie So, far nothing of that sort has been invented. :P

Of course, we can always make a new religion.

John Rennie

Aha, I can see there is an opening in the market!

Sid

All it takes is to write a book and get some followers

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie Well, there already is Jainism which results in vegetarianism for its adherents.

John Rennie

11:20 AM

I know a lot of Hindus are vegetarian, though I'm not sure exactly what the motives are.

Sid

@ACuriousMind A reason why Gujarat(Our PM's home state) is predominantly vegetarian.

@JohnRennie I can give you a link, but I will have to search for a bit. Hold on

skullpatrol

Buddhists are vegetarian.

John Rennie

Diet in Hinduism

Diet in Hinduism varies with its diverse traditions. The ancient and medieval Hindu texts do not explicitly prohibit eating meat, but they do strongly recommend ahimsa—non-violence against all life forms including animals. Many Hindus prefer a vegetarian or lacto-vegetarian lifestyle, and methods of food production that are in sync with nature, compassionate, and respectful of other life forms as well as nature. Most Hindu sects and gurus also promote a sattvic vegetarian diet as a natural obligation as part of living a lifestyle that causes minimum harm to other lifeforms. The diet of Hindus may...

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie I think the same as for Jainism - minimization of suffering and avoidance of violence, with the difference that Hinduism does not require these principles to be applied to animals in all its forms.

John Rennie

Whereas we get away with no restrictions other than (historically) having to eat fish on Fridays.

Sid

11:23 AM

Here's one link which will confuse you further...

20

Q: Why do some Hindus, especially brahmins, not eat onion or garlic?

I have been with some Brahmins, and I was told that along with meat, they are also prohibited from eating onions and garlic. I can understand the meat prohibition because of cows, but what is the reason for the prohibition on onions and/or garlic?

practice food

ACuriousMind

@skullpatrol Wrong. Like Hinduism, there's considerable variance between the different Buddhist schools of thought about under which circumstances the consumption of meat is acceptable

John Rennie

> Onions and garlic, and the other alliaceous plants are classified as rajasic and tamasic, which means that they increase passion and ignorance.

Sid

Also, no one adheres to those restrictions in that link. People eat whatever they want.

Slereah

Made a little plasma effect thing for fun

uridimma.hopto.org/misc/plasma

John Rennie

Much of the pleasure in life would be gone if I couldn't eat onion or garlic. I'll just have to be passionate and ignorant :-)

ACuriousMind

11:26 AM

@JohnRennie Which led to funny things like one bishop declaring the tail of the beaver a "fishy" part so he could eat it whenever he wanted :P

@Slereah Pass the LSD, please

John Rennie

Hypocrisy in the Church? Surely not?

Slereah

It's quite hard to do efficiently because every pixel has to be recalculated every frame

So if I did it for the full screen that's 1200*800 pixels per frame to compute

they are randomized, btw

if you refresh the window you'll get a new one

skullpatrol

(Semi-removed)

John Rennie

I'm a computer nerd - correct spelling is optional :-)

ACuriousMind

@JohnRennie Most compilers would disagree ;)

Slereah

11:29 AM

In the olden days plasma effects were used to save space

since that meant that you didn't have to save some frame animations

John Rennie

@ACuriousMind There aren't that many keywords in most languages. Even I can remember how to spell them :-)

ACuriousMind

@Slereah No way to save the ones I like though :/

Slereah

Well, just refresh enough times!

Statistically you'll find it again!

John Rennie

Though as I recall Pascal makes life entertaining by spelling keywords backwards.

Slereah

Might take a while

there's a lot of parameters

ACuriousMind

11:31 AM

@JohnRennie Hm?

John Rennie

Or am I thinking of Algol? I recall a language with constructions like if ... fi

Slereah

@JohnRennie Bash does that

I think Pascal did it too?

John Rennie

@Slereah I thought it was Pascal, or at least some variants of it.

ACuriousMind

Well, at least Delphi didn't do that

Slereah

I think Pascal might have done endif

I did some pascal many many years ago

So it's a but blurry

John Rennie

11:34 AM

Aha! It's Algol 68.

ACuriousMind

I think Pascal is reasonable and just has if...then...else..., and you only need to use begin...end if you want to execute more than one command int he then- or else-blocks

John Rennie

Algol 68 was very popular with the Cambridge CS guys in the eighties, though I'm not sure if it ever made it out of the lab and into the real world.

Slereah

Algol is the popular 60's language that didn't survive

Unlike COBOL, C or FORTRAN

John Rennie

Algol \ne Algol 68

Mr. Xcoder

BASIC also didn't survive :)

John Rennie

11:36 AM

Oh yes it did :-)

skullpatrol

It went visual.

Mr. Xcoder

Not much though

^^

John Rennie

I have to maintain many thousands of lines of VBScript!

Sid

Whoa, the whole of starboard visible to me has only quotes from @DanielSank

Seems like you have taken over the hbar

skullpatrol

He has a puppet army :P

Perhaps, even bots.

Sargent puppets lonely bots club band.

Slereah

11:53 AM

Since the colors are random on the plasma effect it can be quite sickening sometimes

0celóñe7

@BalarkaSen of course

@BalarkaSen I couldn't care less about geometry

user228700

@JohnR: Hi :-) Are you around?

0celóñe7

12:09 PM

@ACuriousMind why is $\pi$ transcendental?

Slereah

because there's no polynomial of which it is a solution

(with rational coefficients)

0celóñe7

proof?

Slereah

did u try looking it up

0celóñe7

@Slereah I am boycotting google

Slereah

I didn't say to google it

skullpatrol

12:15 PM

You need to think about boycotting this room after yesterday's circus, pal.

Slereah

I'm sure it's on like

the proof wiki

proofwiki.org/wiki/Pi_is_Transcendental

bam

skullpatrol

At least your second suspension time didn't increase.

0celóñe7

proofwiki.org/wiki/Hermite-Lindemann-Weierstrass_Theorem

@skullpatrol my days are likely numbered

skullpatrol

:(

0celóñe7

my next one will be for many months I fear

will delete my account

skullpatrol

12:18 PM

NOOO!!!

0celóñe7

@skullpatrol they clearly don't want me here

skullpatrol

There are two sides to every story :P

ACuriousMind

@0celóñe7 Who are "they"?

skullpatrol

It's like those nfl players that refuse to stand during the national anthem. Nobody can force them @0celóñe7

ACuriousMind

@skullpatrol Please don't suggest to other users to stop coming here, it's not your place to tell others to visit or not visit thiis room.

@0celóñe7 That sounds like an ill-thought out strategy for doing research :P

Also, my Galois theory is rusty because I didn't use it for years, I'll probably have to google most things you ask me, anyway :P

skullpatrol

12:29 PM

Please feel free to move that message to the trash @ACuriousMind

ACuriousMind

I felt perfectly free to do that even before you graciously allowed me to do so.

skullpatrol

May I graciously ask why you didn't?

Balarka Sen

@JohnRennie Or rather, India has beef with beef.

Sid

^ That is so smooth. :P

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind Why would I ask you anything?

skullpatrol

12:40 PM

Wow! @BalarkaSen you show up here now first? Before the math room v

ACuriousMind

@0celóñe7 Uh...you asked me why $\pi$ was transcendental just a few minutes ago?

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind that was a meme

Balarka Sen

I was pinged here.

0celóñe7

@BalarkaSen by me

@JohnRennie help

I'm about to set off the fire alarm

ACuriousMind

@0celóñe7 And if I treat your next question like one you'll complain about me ignoring you again? :P

@0celóñe7 ...why?

Balarka Sen

12:43 PM

@ACuriousMind "yolo"

ACuriousMind

@BalarkaSen ::tips hat::

Balarka Sen

I can't believe JR missed that.

skullpatrol

Where's the beef?

0celóñe7

Trying to season a frying pan

ACuriousMind

And how would that set off the fire alarm?

If the pan is burning, something has gone wrong :P

skullpatrol

12:45 PM

Smoke from the oil?

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind you have to burn oil on to it

Do you not know what seasoning a pan means?

I don't think it's supposed to smoke this much though

I might need a better oil

skullpatrol

Less heat.

ACuriousMind

@0celóñe7 Well, yes, but I think you're supposed to use an oil at a temperature that does not literally burn the oil

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind oh it's not on fire if that's what you think

It's also not smoking that much, my ventilation system is just crap

Not sure what to do

The whole place smells like burnt oil now, wonderful

skullpatrol

Please don't insult any ventilation systems here.

The salmon don't like it ;P

ACuriousMind

12:49 PM

@0celóñe7 What oil did you use?

John Rennie

@Kaumudi.H: ah, I missed you, and now I have to go out again for an hour. Back about 3 p.m. BST. Have you looked at the message I left on Hangouts?

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind high temperature vegetable oil

0celóñe7

1:52 PM

@ACuriousMind no comment?

ACuriousMind

2:15 PM

@0celóñe7 Not really, you seem to have made no obvious mistake :P

0celóñe7

@ACuriousMind my brother says I had too much oil

I'm trying agai in the oven

He said stovetop always ends in disastee

John Rennie

2:30 PM

I don't think the oven will be hot enough

If you're getting lots of smoke then you're using too much oil

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie 375F

how can a stove get hotter than that?

my oven goes up to 500F

allegedly

John Rennie

Gas or electric hobs?

0celóñe7

electric

@JohnRennie and you can go too hot, you know...

some people think 375 is too much

John Rennie

If you're doing it on the hob you can tell when the pan is hot enough because the origanal silver colour of the pan goes bronze as the oil polymerises

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie umm, cast iron is black

look, doing it "on the hob" is not possible because of the bad ventilation

Anonymous

2:55 PM

@BernardoMeurer @dmckee I need some help with a C program. I basically want to input a sentence (containing any possible character) and print it. But there is a catch. If there is a \n in the sentence then only the part of the sentence before \n should be printed out. I wrote a code for this situation : paste.ofcode.org/sdj4Eg2VegKrCzdbUENJbD. This code seems to work fine but it fails in a certain situation.

Anonymous

If there is the character n anywhere in the sentence before \n then it prints only the first word of the sentence! Why does this happen? How can I fix this bug?

Anonymous

Also, cc @JohnRennie.... ^

Anonymous

For the second case it gives the perfect output

Anonymous

3:00 PM

Anonymous

Also for the third case it gives the correct output

Anonymous

Don't know why it doesn't work if there is an n before \n.

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie it smells like dead cat in here

This burnt oil is awful

Anonymous

Also, @ACuriousMind could you spot the mistake in my code?

John Rennie

@0celóñe7 Yes, it's not a great smell.

These on the other hand smell wonderful :-)

Anonymous

3:02 PM

I'm scared of asking on Stack Overflow due to the downvotes =P

Anonymous

@JohnRennie What's that? Chicken burger?

Anonymous

Or some other meat?

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie WHERE ARE THE VEGETABLES

Anonymous

JR is anti veg I thought :P

heather

hello

Anonymous

3:06 PM

hello

Anonymous

did you understand that centripetal accn stuff yesterday?

heather

a little bit - i'm still reading about it.

Anonymous

I see. Good luck. It's always best to read a mechanics book from the beginning. Difficult to understand stuff from the middle. :)

Avantgarde

@JohnRennie Is that vegemite?

0celóñe7

@Blue one needs to get used to reading random parts of books

Anonymous

3:10 PM

@0celóñe7 Don't agree. I would harm myself by reading random parts of QM for example. Unlearning is more difficult than learning. If you start reading random parts of the book you might develop misconceptions (which you might not even get to know until much later)

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie why does every GR question on this site need to have someone write the Einstein equations

@Blue when you are doing research you will need to read random things

there's a large chance you will read a paper and not know half of what it's talking about

Anonymous

@0celóñe7 Research is probably a different ball game.

John Rennie

4 hours ago, by John Rennie

Look at these beauties:

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie no onions even?

John Rennie

@Avantgarde BBQ sauce!

0celóñe7

3:13 PM

what are you doing with your life

Anonymous

ah, beef with chopped ham. tasty :D

Avantgarde

@JohnRennie You torture me with those pics. Wish I could have even half of those

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie You will be happy to know that I have not done a benchmark today

@Avantgarde why can't you make/get them?

John Rennie

@Blue If I were being hyper critical they were a little bit dry ...

@0celóñe7 Cold turkey! :-)

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie Did you overcook them?

Anonymous

3:15 PM

@JohnRennie Yeah, looks so. Why not put some more sauce?

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie There is still an issue. My RAM is rated at 3000Mhz but I can't get above 2667.

Anonymous

Mayonnaise or something

John Rennie

@Blue It makes the bread soggy if you put too much sauce on.

Avantgarde

@0celóñe7 At times, I am not even familiar with the foods he posts

0celóñe7

@Blue disgusting

Anonymous

3:16 PM

@JohnRennie I actually like soggy bread (soggy with tasty sauce :P)

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie the BIOS has a 2933 setting but whenever I try to boot with that it crashes

Anonymous

@0celóñe7 you don't like it?

John Rennie

@Blue When I've made burgers with chips (french fries) or some similar side dish I have eaten them with cream cheese spread on them, and that's very good.

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie off to bios world again

John Rennie

To be honest I don't know a lot about the BIOS tweaking side ofthings.

0celóñe7

3:23 PM

@JohnRennie thankfully when you crash 3 times during POST the BIOS reverts the RAM settings to default

John Rennie

@0celóñe7 you could always do that by removing the CMOS battery, but it's certainly more convenient to have it revert automatocally.

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie I might have to do that, now the CPU light is on.

John Rennie

I only ever buy Dells, and they come preconfigured to the optimal settings. Though I appreciate the pre-built Dells wouldn't give you the best possible frame rates in games.

It makes life simple though.

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie Ok I must be getting close. It's not crashing immediately but it won't boot

Remove the battery now? It's not triggering whatever makes it revert to default

John Rennie

Chek the manual. There may be a BIOS reset jumper.

0celóñe7

3:41 PM

@JohnRennie no luck trying to get high speed ram it seems

John Rennie

It seems a bit odd if the RAM is rated for the speed you're running it at. Maybe there's a limitation elsewhere e.g. the CPU

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie people online are reporting the same issue

It seems to be a mobo issue

djsmiley2k

low voltage, so many things could be up with it.

new firmware?

I can't decide what to have for take away this weekend

I don't need to get a pizza for tomorrow, as tomorrow is already covered with many things

Secret

Today's lol from Australia

I'll let you to figure out the rest

djsmiley2k

there's an awesome take away place that deliveres... but it's all about the meat there and I don't know if the wife will want that

John Rennie

3:47 PM

It would be interesting to know how a standard Dell like this one would compare to your rig.

Anonymous

@Secret wtf is that?

djsmiley2k

@Secret This was yesterday.

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie that probably has a much faster disk

djsmiley2k

@Blue It's called a Hijab

John Rennie

@0celóñe7 Disks are easily swappable. I was thinking more about the CPU/memory/graphics systems.

djsmiley2k

3:50 PM

8Gb ram isn't perticularly much

or was that on teh gfx card, I couldn't tell

Anonymous

@djsmiley2k I've hardly seen anyone cover their whole face with Hijab. Strange

djsmiley2k

@Blue Not sure where you are, but I hear it's normal in some countries/cultures.

John Rennie

@djsmiley2k 8GB on the GPU. 16GB RAM on the PC.

0celóñe7

@Blue it's a Saudi thing

djsmiley2k

I mean it seems incredibly stupid, and rude to me, but what do I know?

If it's rude to wear sunglasses in doors....

Anonymous

3:52 PM

Anonymous

I've seen this ^

Anonymous

Many times

Anonymous

But that picture Secret linked was ridiculous =P

djsmiley2k

The entire idea seems ridiculous to me

Anonymous

Indeed.

John Rennie

3:53 PM

@Blue it's basically the same but with the addition of a veil.

Anonymous

@JohnRennie Can they see through it?

djsmiley2k

Still, worst ninja ever?

Anonymous

I hope so

John Rennie

@Blue Yes

Anonymous

phew

John Rennie

3:54 PM

The picture makes the veil look darker tahn it is.

I don't want to try and justify the forced wearing of burkas, but I'm not sure the Western approach is totally healthy.

In the West we get girls agonising about their appearance because they're expected to show a lot of flesh.

Is that really better than the wearing of very concealing clothes?

0celóñe7

Less clothes is better

Anonymous

Who cares....other than some orthodox people....

Anonymous

People should be free to wear whatever they want

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie the burning cat smell is gone

I guess that means the oil has completely polymerized

djsmiley2k

@Blue i want to be naked

John Rennie

3:58 PM

Is your pan now seasoned?

djsmiley2k

all the time, 24/7

tht ok?

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie it is cooling in the oven now

Anonymous

@djsmiley2k Sure. I have no problem. If you're comfortable being naked you should be

0celóñe7

according to my brother, a slow cool after the first round of seasoning is key

djsmiley2k

iron pan?

0celóñe7

3:59 PM

@djsmiley2k yes

djsmiley2k

fun times

never clean it.

John Rennie

@djsmiley2k Do you mind, I'm eating!

djsmiley2k

LOL

Anyway I'm off home, have a good one!

0celóñe7

@JohnRennie I am naked

I never work on my PC with clothes on -- static shock danger

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