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10:03 PM
- Basic algebra and global calculus on noncompact manifolds
 
"If you consider a charged ball, then think about squishing it from a 3D object into a 2D piece of paper. That represents the area-based charge density."
What does "squishing" mean hear? Do they mean something like projecting?
(this still refers to the post about the infinite sheet)
 
@ThomasKlimpel I imagine it is a reaction to your claiming there are two time-like dimensions. I've no idea where you got that from.
 
I don't say that there are two time-like dimensions, only that two time like dimensions are perceived. I can control the frequency of the light, so at least I can move relatively freely in the frequency dimension. Whether you want to call the frequency dimension timelike or not is not really important. And I said before that I consider electromagnetic radiation, so what. And even if, wouldn't a single downvote have been sufficient? 5 downvotes for a question which to the asker felt just normal?
 
yes @Sha, projecting
squishing is an interesting operation I've never heard before
 
@ThomasKlimpel There is no necessity that two objects have the same frequency to collide, so frequency is not on the same basis as time and space.
Objects have lots of properties that are not like time and space: mass, charge, angular momentum and so on.
 
10:17 PM
Spin ...
 
@Avantgarde ah okay
 
But I can still look inside a solid body, if I use a frequency which doesn't interact too strongly with the matter. Especially low frequency radiation penetrates through matter without much problem. This is not too different from spatial dimensions, where I can evade an object.
(an object, but I am really thinking of a sort of barrier, which I can evade)
 
Why do they consider this $A$ then when they proceed to talk about the solid angle occupied by charged material later on anyways?
I find it a big assumption to say that the field strength is determined by the solid angle occupied by charged material times the 2D charge density. That seems to be an explanation of something by simply stating another assumption?
Well I guess it is more general, than the specific case of the infinite sheet
maybe I just have to let it sink in
 
@Slereah did you email penrose?
 
10:49 PM
hm, one last try though: can we apply this "solid angle" argument also with a particle? Because in the case of a particle, its area is zero, no? So it never occupies any field of vision. Why do they mention is then? Or did they mention this surface A, such that they could give the particle a finite volume/area?
oh, I think I finally get it. So in the case of the infinite sheet, our solid angle is constant, and the 2D density too, because the sheet already is 2D, so we don't even have to worry about projections.
 
@dmckee Thanks for the explanation anyway. If you or somebody else here understands my problem and is able to formulate it in a way that other physicians would understand it too (instead of considering it ridiculous and downvote), it would be nice to know.
(My guess for the answer to my question is that achieving a high modulation of an em-wave in time is relatively easy, but high modulation in space leads at best to a change of direction, at worst to evanescent waves. This answer only came to me after I thought about why nobody understands my question...
And independently, what I wrote at the beginning of the question is still true: "In quantum mechanics, it is not obvious (for me) how to deduce the perceived dimensionality of the world from the (mathematical) description by high-dimensional wave functions.")
 
Perhaps I should be a little more blunt; I don't think at all well of your ideas. They are approaching "not even wrong".
But if you wish to try to pursue them on Physics, you will need to start by defining what you mean by "perceived dimension".
 
No problem of being blunt. I just try to understand.
 
Until you do that you are not communicating with the physics community.
 
Yes, this is exactly what I try to understand: "What do I need to do for communicating with the physics community?"
And just assume that I don't want to teach the physics community my ideas, but get help with the points I don't understand. In case of my question, the first sentence described what I don't understand, and then I focused it on a concrete instance of the problem where I hoped that there would be an answer.
 
11:07 PM
> It seems to me that in addition to the 3 spatial dimensions, two dimensions related to time are perceived: the frequency dimension corresponding to the fact that matter only interacts strongly with electromagnetic radiation of its characteristic frequency ranges, and the normal time dimension.
Explain it to me, @ThomasKlimpel - "the frequency dimension corresponding to the fact that matter only interacts strongly with electromagnetic radiation of its characteristic frequency ranges". Why does that make frequency related to time?
 
@ArtOfCode Because I think of QM a bit in terms of "Fourier-pairs", and here frequency is the "Fourier-pair" of time. And I wondered why the "Fourier-pair" of space was somehow different...
 
@ThomasKlimpel What's a Fourier pair?
I've just about got my head around Fourier transforms, but I can't say I've heard of Fourier pairs before now.
 
wtf, Art is an undergrad?
That makes no sense
 
I put it in quotes, because "Fourier pair" is (probably) not really a valid term. If I take the Fourier transform in time, then I end up with frequency as the independent variable instead of time. This is what I mean by "Fourier pair".
 
His demeanor is like that of a 90 year old woman
that's not necessarily a bad thing
just saying
 
11:16 PM
@0celouvskyopoulo7 you only just worked this out?
 
I had every reason to believe you're quite old, yes.
 
I'm sure I've told y'all how old I am before now
anyway
 
@ArtOfCode You're like what, 20?
 
close enough
about 10 months too old
 
Under or over?
Ah
You're my age, lol
Shit, when's your birthday?
April 30th here
 
11:18 PM
late March
about a month off, then
 
@ArtOfCode if you did then I thought you were a liar.
(I still do.)
 
@0celouvskyopoulo7 yeah, that would make sense
@0celouvskyopoulo7 I have a university ID next to me
 
You're the same age as me, how are you so old inside?
 
^
I thought you were retirement age
90 is probably too old
You do come across as very old
 
11:20 PM
Me too, I thought he was older than JR
 
moderatorship does that to you
 
Oh damn, check him and his heavy burdens out
 
lol
I guess that's what happens when you execute innocent people for no good reason.
 
Wanting to try out the very slow dipping mechanism over the tank of tuna with laser beams is a perfectly good reason.
 
11:24 PM
@0celouvskyopoulo7 hang about there and let me censor this ID sufficiently to show you
 
@ThomasKlimpel You cannot "deduce" the dimensionality of the world from the wavefunction. The number of spatial dimensions - the number of indepedent position operators - is an input to the theory. I don't understand how you think we somehow perceive both time and frequency as dimensions, but then don't think the same of the "Fourier pair" of position and momentum.
 
there, @0celouvskyopoulo7
 
@ArtOfCode I still didn't make my student ID lol
Lazy ass
 
@ACuriousMind The first part ("You cannot "deduce" the dimensionality of the world from the wavefunction.") is something I would really like to understand, I just guess it won't be too easy for me. So I focused on my questions with respect to the "Fourier pairs". I think em-waves ("we") somehow perceive frequency as a dimension, because having the (completely) wrong frequency can prevent the interaction.
 
@ArtOfCode You're a pesky web developer
 
11:38 PM
@BernardoMeurer Oh? What have I done this time?
 
I don't think the same of the "Fourier pair" of position and momentum, because I have a hard time coming up with experiments where I would be able to perceive them as a dimension.
 
@ArtOfCode You're a web developer
That's the lowest form of existance
 
@JohnRennie First of all, thanks for the answer, man. So, just to make sure I'm understanding this correctly, my calculations from the spacetime interval were correct (that is: $(\Delta x')^2 = (\Delta x)^2 + c^2(\Delta t')^2$ was correct, and the reason this works isn't because $\Delta x'$ is greater than $\Delta x$, but because $\Delta t$ is negative?
 
Lower than communism with a human face
 
That proves absolutely nothing?
@ArtOfCode what are you trying to prove with that
 
11:42 PM
@BernardoMeurer on the contrary. You're using Stack Exchange.
 
@ArtOfCode I'd much prefer if this was IRC
 
@0celouvskyopoulo7 age. The EXIF data on the file should indicate it was taken a few minutes ago, which lines up with me saying something about university ID. The date of birth on the card lines up with what I'm claiming.
Better proof, though, is the fact that I don't have a good reason to lie :P
 
@ArtOfCode How can you claim you're a "Sound Engineer"
You're just a kid like me
Is that your major?
 
@BernardoMeurer better point: if web developers didn't exist, neither would the web. Wikipedia. Google. SE. Social media. <insert other useful or entertaining websites here>.
@BernardoMeurer um... because I am?
no, I'm doing a degree in CS
 
@ArtOfCode I hate the web, I think we should start over and rebuild it fresh
How can you claim to be a Sound Engineer doing a degree in CS?
What qualifies you as a Sound Engineer?
(Honest question)
 
11:46 PM
@BernardoMeurer I'm gonna have to wish you good luck with that and not take part :P
@BernardoMeurer the fact that I can do a sound engineer's job
Give me a theatre show, a band, a bunch of mics, speakers, and cables, and a mixing desk, and I can run your sound for you.
 
@ArtOfCode you could fake the metadata.
 
@0celouvskyopoulo7 not easily.
I don't actually know how, more to the point
 
@ArtOfCode Meh, fair
 
You're a retired computer nerd.
Of course you can do it.
You used to work for MI6
 
Hm? Altering EXIF metadata is not hard
 
11:48 PM
@0celouvskyopoulo7 If I was a retired computer nerd, why would I not know C?
 
@ArtOfCode How the fuck do you major in CS and not know C?
 
or <insert other early language here>
 
I have no proof you don't know C
 
@BernardoMeurer because it's not part of the course
 
I have to know C, Assembly, and a VHD
Degenerates... C is fundamental
 
11:49 PM
I've got a few friends who were CS majors who don't know C
 
@0celouvskyopoulo7 go look at my GH profile. Sure, I could just not have any C on it, but the likelihood is that if I knew C I'd have a project or two in it on GH.
 
That's just shameful
 
Are you guys trying to determine someone's credibility on a chat room based on... what, now?
 
shrug
 
@AmagicalFishy We're never really doing anything
 
11:51 PM
it started out with people not believing my age, I dunno what it is now :)
 
Oh. Ah, yeah, I understand that @Bernardo . I am no stranger to chatrooms ;)
 
My adviser is monitoring my github commit history to see if I'm studying or not lol
@ACuriousMind Are you around?
 
@BernardoMeurer reasons to have a second account
 
@ArtOfCode Hidden repos :P
 
or that
I guess you've already got GH's education pack? Free private repos and all that?
 
11:53 PM
Yep, amazing thing
 
what languages did you say you worked with, @BernardoMeurer?
 
@ArtOfCode For school C, MIPS Assembly, x86_64 Assembly, and VHDL
On my own Python, C++, C, and recently Rust
Ah, I do some VHDL on my own, mostly messing with J-Core
 
You can get JetBrains' CLion Professional and PyCharm Professional free as well, then
 
Already hate both :)
CLion is amazing
It makes my life so much easier
 
oh, and ReSharper C++
 
11:57 PM
PyCharm I never got hooked into, Atom with plugins work well
ReSharper is just for VisualStudio, no?
 
@BernardoMeurer probably, yeah
 
Yeah, that's proprietary malware
I try and avoid proprietary malware
 
I like IDEs as opposed to Atom because debuggers
@BernardoMeurer shrug it ain't that bad. For C#, at least.
 
It's not about being good or bad, it's about it being proprietary
CLion is at least built on an OS base
 
Yeah... I figure I'm trading off open-source stuff for the benefit of it being made by the same people who make the language itself
which doesn't apply for C/C++
 
11:59 PM
That's why I don't use C#, Mono is horrible
I'm sure it's a nice language
 
Yeah, if you're gonna write C#, you basically have to use VS.
 
To be fair I think I'll just move to Rust from now on
 

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