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4:00 PM
Oh that maths book you're after.
 
@Fawad Maybe. I linked it in chat so several people might have clicked on it
 
225+ :)
you? @Yashas
 
somewhere around 230-260
 
That's a lot of money for a book. You could buy a decent laptop for that.
 
even a good book?
 
4:01 PM
@skillpatrol It's very good
@JohnRennie I already have an excellent laptop
 
it'll keep you yumbole
then it's excellent
 
Who flagged 0celo's post? For heaven's sake get a sense of humour!
 
wtf
am I getting banned?
what did they flag
 
They flagged the whoever flagged this isn't waking up post.
 
I got suspended
someone saved me
 
4:04 PM
SSTAAAAAP
:(
 
I don't understand
 
I noticed the stars on the post got cancelled, so I assume a friendly mod cancelled the suspension on the grounds it wasn't deserved.
 
Do people actually get offended by things or is the flag system being abused?
I tend to think it's the latter.
 
@0celouvsky The way of Chaos is not known to mortals. This is all that should be known.
 
@0celouvsky latter
 
4:05 PM
The trouble is the flags are seen by every 10k user in the chat including those who know nothing about this room.
 
@ThomasWard Arigato.
 
Some of them click the valid link without bothering to come to the room and look at the context.
 
@JohnRennie I don't buy that because they suspend stupid shit that is not offensive in any context.
 
This is a long standing problem with the way the flagging system works.
 
#JusticeForOcelouvsky
3
 
4:06 PM
And that would be fine if that's all it was, but why do they even click suspend?
For the lolz?
I really don't understand
@Yashas thank you
 
@0celouvsky because they can't be bothered to come to this room read the post and check whether it's actually offensive or not.
 
41 secs ago, by Yashas
#JusticForOcelouvsky
 
@JohnRennie That doesn't answer the question. Why bother suspending at all?
 
@0celouvsky there is no suspend button. If the post gets enough valid flags, it gets squishes and sometimes triggers builtin suspends. (In this case, the post out of context while I was looking at it on the flags list, I accidentally hit the "Valid" button, stupid phone, so it triggered a suspend and delete. Whoops.)
@0celouvsky @0celouvsky does "accidental misclick on the buttons" answer the question?
 
@ThomasWard Clicking flag is basically a surefire suspend button.
 
4:09 PM
@0celouvsky (I didn't click flag, I was reading the active flags list. Mistakes happen, it's why you're not suspended)
 
Hmm.
 
(my apologies)
 
we accept
 
Thanks Thomas :-)
 
reminds self to not use SE chat via his phone
 
4:10 PM
That still doesn't explain why that book is now $215
 
We've had a few of these silly flaggings recently.
 
I wonder how many of my posts were flagged today morning
 
@ThomasWard But you do know who flagged?
 
@Yashas I didn't see any flags on your posts.
 
@0celouvsky beyumbole
 
4:10 PM
Which doesn't mean I approved of them :-)
 
@Yashas No one has anything against you
Except for @Kaumudi.H
 
@0celouvsky sorta? It's a painful process to find out who flagged what, so I'm just going to leave it alone.
 
lol
@ThomasWard data SE?
 
What is this beyumbole meme? I'm obviously too old and flatulent to understand it!
 
4:12 PM
be humble
 
watch this
 
learn to be humble
 
@Yashas no, more evil. that's all i'll say on it. back to your regularly scheduled programming. :)
 
lol
 
you're never to old to be humble
 
4:14 PM
@0celouvsky Ah, OK, thanks though I'm still not sure I see the point :-)
@skillpatrol Humility is for losers! :-)
 
:-O
why?
 
I wasn't being serious :-)
 
@skillpatrol maybe he never experienced failure in life.
:P
 
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Q: Reputation points in bounty

Utkarsh futousI get that points should be irreversible and the person who has set bounty should not be able to claim bounty award but I don't get it that if no answer is provided or if answer is so horrible that it has nothing to do with asked question .. Why should the points be returned as already he has no...

 
4:16 PM
He has a sheep for a girlfriend so there's that.
 
4
Q: How about a chess program in the chat rooms?

skull petrolI was just wondering why this site doesn't have a chess program in the chat rooms so users from around the network could come in and play?

 
Times are desperate in the Old World.
 
@PhysicsMeta why so late?
 
anyone wants to play quantum chess?
 
Though I do think humility is overrated. I think being who you really are is what matters. Of course if what you really are is an arrogant ****hole you might want to be a little cautious with this approach.
 
4:17 PM
good point
beeyourself
 
Possibly @JohnRennie
 
now you really sound like an old lady
 
@0celouvsky who me?
 
me :(
 
4:20 PM
@JohnRennie you sound much worse
@skillpatrol I'll read another book for now
I need to learn about jets apparently
 
Off to the land of Hirsch
 
Jet bundles?
 
@Slereah I hope not. Just jets
 
I tried reading about jet bundles but my eyes just sort of glaze
 
4:22 PM
jesus
 
I casted my 1000th vote
 
Mhhh. Pork medallions with bacon mantle. This was a good idea.
 
what to drink?
 
man do you know that feeling when you woke up too early so you're trying hard to not go to bed too early
it is not fun
 
4:25 PM
@Slereah better than waking up the previous day
 
OK (weary sigh) time for a beer and this week's New Scientist I think.
 
In Jan, I used to sleep at 1PM and wake up at 11AM
 
My naps do not time travel
 
I wish mine would
 
@Yashas what?
you were only up for 2 hours a day?
consider me skeptical
@BernardoMeurer Did michelle talk to you
 
4:32 PM
@0celouvsky 1PM to 11PM
I took my 1.5mg of melatonin 5 mins ago
 
Why'd you that?
 
what's melatonin
 
sleep drug
 
It is a hormone.
that video tells that dumb people who believe fully in something can never stop believing in it
 
In this video why was he showing nature beauty all the time!
 
4:36 PM
20 hours ago, by skull petrol
Beeyumbole, beethankful, beeyourself
 
but I did convert two flat earthers in round earthers
 
@Yashas traitors!
 
@0celouvsky About what?
 
@JohnRennie I think being thankful is important too.
 
@BernardoMeurer she said I can come to SF but it's not clear who is buying the plane tickets
 
4:39 PM
@0celouvsky Bob is
@Slereah You were right, MIPS is horrible
This fucking pipeline is killing me
 
watch out for flaggers
 
@BernardoMeurer yeah no
 
@0celouvsky Drive there
Don't be lazy
 
@BernardoMeurer I got suspended already once today
 
Pick up Kristina on the way
 
4:41 PM
@BernardoMeurer lol I don't think you understand how large the US is
 
If anyone flags someone cursing the MIPS pipeline that just mean they don't know MIPS
@0celouvsky Brazil is larger than mainland US
I do know
I just like driving
 
@BernardoMeurer does Brazil even have roads?
 
*being driven
@0celouvsky Yes, many, no railroads though
 
Is Brazil a nuclear power?
 
4:42 PM
feynman went there
 
We have nuclear energy, but our gov. was always against nuclear weaponry
 
You have no trains!
 
So nope
@Utkarshfutous Pretty much no trains at all in the country
 
Anonymous
Rail transport in Brazil began in the 19th century and there were many different railway companies. The railways were nationalised under RFFSA (Rede Ferroviária Federal, Sociedade Anônima) in 1957. Between 1999 and 2007, RFFSA was broken up and services are now operated by a variety of private and public operators, including América Latina Logística, Companhia Paulista de Trens Metropolitanos and SuperVia. == Track gauge == The rail system in Brazil operates on four rail gauges: Broad gauge: 4,932 km 1,600 mm (5 ft 3 in) gauge Metre gauge: 23,773 km 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 3⁄8 in) gauge Dual gauge: 396...
 
Anonymous
Very few
 
4:43 PM
x86 has pipelining but it's mostly hidden
 
Anonymous
cool
 
@blue Most of those are not for people, just for mineral extraction
 
you'll never get weird shit like a command being executed after a jump
 
@Slereah so a jet is just a local Taylor series
 
@Slereah yeah, I get that coding in direct to the metal in MIPS
 
4:44 PM
@0celouvsky I hear yeah
 
I'm getting my ass whooped by it in fact
 
Well, MIPS does have some things to prevent really bad pipelining things
 
Not on my design
 
I forget the exact thing but I think that it's related to memory writing
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer "Although Brazil has one of the largest rail network, it lacks passenger transportation. Passenger trains were controlled by state-run companies until a mass privatisation occurred in 1996-1999, by then most tracks and rolling stock were in a very poor condition and most trains would not run over 60 Km/h even on broad gauge, forcing the now private-run railway companies to shut down almost every single regional and long-distance services in the entire country in the next 5 years."
 
Anonymous
4:46 PM
Interesting
 
Anonymous
Lack of funding?
 
@blue There's more to it, I can explain in relative depth if you're interested in hearing
Lack of funding and lack of interest
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Go on :)
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer And corruption?
 
Anonymous
In India we've got a lot of corruption and hell lot of things are out of order :-P
 
4:49 PM
But our trains are working nonetheless
 
Anonymous
@Utkarshfutous sort of yeah...that's the common man's means of transport
 
Eh, okay, go back to the 50's. Brazil is a democracy again, after some (30?) years of a widely accepted as good or very good dictatorship (Getúlio Vargas was the guy). A little after that we elect this joker called Juscelino Kubitschek. His plan was called "50 years in 5" (Ciquenta anos em Cinco), and was basically to do a speedrun of making a proper capitalist country. One of his main points was to bring the large international car manufacturers into Brazil. (Continued)
So he did so, Ford, GM, etc, all came, mostly through Brazil-USA deals, and Kubitschek did his part and built roads fucking everywhere
Really, highways everywhere
 
Anonymous
Car freak :-P
 
Anonymous
Ok the reason is basically a crazy guy who ruled Brazil a few years back
 
Anonymous
lol
 
4:52 PM
That was, even at the time, regarded as a bad strategy since Brazil's geography and aggressive flora didn't do well for the asphalt roads, and even the concrete ones were high maintenance. But, since he was lobbied by the US, Kubitschek held onto his plan and introduced cars in mass into the country, creating a car culture on the population
With that the trains got pushed back to industrial applications, where trucks didn't work, like transporting lots of very heavy materials, and wheeled vehicles took over all the other transport necessities
And that's basically why
Because some asshole took money to make the country be ran by cars
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Right, but what do you guys do when you have to travel long distances, like over a 100 kms or so? You take planes ?
 
He was such a jerk he built a city in the middle of nowhere and made it the capital. Brasilia
@blue If you have money you take a plane, if not you take a bus or drive
I've take >16h bus trips
to cross a state
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Drive 100 kms? God bless.
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Phew!!
 
Anonymous
That's crazy
 
4:55 PM
Yeah, it sucks
 
lol, this is an undergrad thesis
 
Does my answer suck -2?
-2
A: December 27, 2004 gamma ray burst

Keep these mindSome internetting reveals [reposting my comments as possibly helpful for better digging]: 230,000+ people were killed around that time because of the tsunami the day before, possibly hampering research on health effects by comparing regional changes. The internet has also some theories about a g...

 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer I need to thank the British guys who captured India and build railways here...they did atleast some good for the country....lol =D
 
Anonymous
I see you live in Portugal now
 
100km is not that bad I can easily travel for 200 km
 
Anonymous
4:58 PM
:-)
 
$\mathfrak R^n$
@Slereah the horror
 
$\mathscr R^n$
 
@blue I moved, yeah, let's see how long I stay here :P
 
also shouldn't it be $\mathfrak{R}^{\mathfrak{n}}$
 
5:00 PM
@blue if not for British we would have anyway made railways! They made it transport there stuff primarily
 
does that above actually happen?
 
Anonymous
@Utkarshfutous I know I know...that was a joke :-)
 
@Utkarshfutous That's... not necessarily true
 
@0celouvsky It's a Reuters image.
 
@Keepthesemind I mean is it a common occurrence.
 
5:01 PM
@Keepthesemind that is some exaggerated exceptions of festival time if you are not indian
 
@BernardoMeurer I bought books :^)
 
@0celouvsky ::eyeroll::
 
@Utkarshfutous Thanks
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Yeah, if we didn't have great leaders ^...we were lucky to have some wonderful men during our Independence :-)
 
@BernardoMeurer To be fair I know what I'm writing my thesis on this summer and am preparing
 
Anonymous
5:03 PM
@Keepthesemind lol...I've seen such trains!
 
@0celouvsky You're writing your thesis this semester?
 
@BernardoMeurer with such vast population it is impossible to cope with such bulk transport systems
 
@BernardoMeurer this summer
undergrad thesis
 
I'll write my thesis on how to guarantee every girl you date is batshit crazy
I have a fucking PhD
 
please don't cuss
@Slereah how many notions of continuity are there?
Continuous, sequentially continuous, uniformly continuous, completely continuous, absolutely continuous
 
5:07 PM
hell if I know
2 topology 4 me
non-standard analysis also has a specific continuity notion
$f$ is continuous if $f(x) \approx f(x + \varepsilon)$
 
@BernardoMeurer so if you come to SF too we'll do measure theory and $\psi$do's
 
@0celouvsky And what?
 
pseudodifferential operators
 
Can I teach you how to find crazy women?
I'm really, really good at it
 
Basically operators of the form $(Pf)(x)=\int e^{i(x-y)\xi}p(x,\xi)f(y) \,dyd\xi$
@BernardoMeurer what happened now?
 
5:13 PM
do u mean like $\sqrt{\nabla}$
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Yeah, teach me...I find most girls quite boring =P
 
@Slereah for instance
I think that's just $p(x,\xi)=\sqrt{-i\xi}$
that's not very well behaved, is it
 
it's alright
it pops up in QFT
 
I don't think I've ever seen it :P
 
since it's the operator associated with $p$
@ACuriousMind It's in the schrodinger wavefunctional formalism
 
5:15 PM
One takes $p$ from a so-called "symbol class" that has nice regularity and growth conditions
 
@Slereah Ah, yes, that would explain why I've never seen it
 
$$\Psi_0[t, \Phi(\vec{x})] \propto e^{-\frac{1}{2\hbar c}\int d^3x\Phi(\vec{x}) \sqrt{-\nabla^2} \Phi(\vec{x})} e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}E_0t}$$
 
One also takes $p(x,\xi)$ to have compact support in $x$
So it's a bit limiting for $\Bbb R^n$ applications
it was made for compact manifolds
@Slereah Oh, $\sqrt{-\Delta}$ has a Fourier meaning
you don't need $\psi$do's, although those generalize the Fourier stuff
 
@Slereah $\sqrt{-\nabla^2}$ is pretty different from $\sqrt{\nabla}$ :P
 
@Slereah You can have $\sqrt{-\Delta}$ acting on $H^{1/2}$
 
5:19 PM
you're not the boss of me
 
@blue You won't find the ones I find boring
 
@Keepthesemind From my point of view your answer isn't actually answering the question. It's just a bunch of unrelated facts, wild and utterly unsupported rumors and references to off-site material. SO while there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the thought expressed there, it does such as a Stack Exchange answer.
 
@BernardoMeurer just text me what happened
 
@0celouvsky A minor encounter with a(nother) eastern european
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer Makes me interested in your dating history =P
 
5:21 PM
@blue Ask @0celouvsky
He knows some of the bad parts :P
 
this one chick had a drug dealer boyfriend
or mafioso
something like that
 
Anonymous
@0celouvsky wooooowwww...that's cool
 
why is that cool?
 
Oh yes, that one was cool indeed
@skillpatrol because I didn't die
 
cool
 
5:23 PM
@ACuriousMind Quick, Whitney's first name?
 
@0celouvsky Stiefel ;P
 
Houston
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer If that girl already had a drug dealer bf...then what the hell were you doing there? =P
 
@ACuriousMind I honestly thought Stone was von Neumann's given name for months :D
 
5:24 PM
@0celouvsky Haha...well, Stone and John do sound a little bit similar...
 
@ACuriousMind It's Hassler btw.
 
@ACuriousMind I wrote an answer to my qustion. Please help refine it if you have time and are willing physics.stackexchange.com/questions/324167/…
 
@dmckee I rephrased the (rather unsubstantiated) 'theory'. (I included it, because that is what you find when searching the internet.) But I tried to be helpful regarding the subquestions: effect measurement, localisation. But the first thing that the actual answer would probably need is something medical (assuming that physicians know more about any possible effects than physicists would.)
 
@blue Complicated
 
@dmckee I'm not trying to give 'conspiracy theories' or wild speculation traction here.
 
5:29 PM
Oh crap I forgot about my laundry
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer So is life =D
 
Anonymous
I'll give you some rest
 
Anonymous
We can talk about this some other day =P
 
@blue It's not actually
She was hot
:v
 
@Keepthesemind ... I"m not sure what to say. Even mentioning those theories suggest that the reader ought to think about them. And they are the purest kind of not-even-wrong nonsense.
 
5:30 PM
@dmckee OK, I'll delete that bit.
 
Anonymous
@BernardoMeurer And.....you expected she is single =P funny
 
I'd just like to thank one more time the existence of rsync, what an amazing tool
 
Which still leaves you with no actual answer in your answer.
 
@blue Oh no, I just chose not to think about it. My nemesis didn't quite attain to the same philosophy though
 
@BernardoMeurer I trust that you tunnel over SSH, right?
 
5:32 PM
@dmckee Hm? I use it for local stuff
 
It's great, but it also dates from the "what's security?" era of unix design.
@BernardoMeurer Ah. I've used it for remote mirroring a few time, too.
 
@dmckee It just makes it so easy to synchronize two directories
I have a very large music library
 
Yep. Ideal use case.
 
I just back it up with rsync and the files even get checksummed to guarantee consistency!
 
Anonymous
@Yashas wtf is the structure of iodide of millon's base? Every website seems to have a different structure
 
5:44 PM
@dmckee ... and made the 'answer' it back into a comment...
 
6:33 PM
@ACuriousMind what did Lipschitz even do?
 
6:48 PM
@BenNiehoff greetings
@Slereah it's always suspicious when people write out the full name of a reference
does it mean they know the dude?
 
@0celouvsky greetings
 
@BenNiehoff How's the paper coming?
lol, random
$10^{80}$
why not a full Google
 
7:20 PM
@0celouvsky Paper will be out Tuesday :D
 
@dmckee the Windows port of rsync encrypts traffic over the network. Possibly not the greatest encryption method, but good enough for most purposes.
 
@JohnRennie Doesn't matter, the malware will snap your data before encryption
@dmckee Do you know MIPS? I need to find where I'm mixing up my pipeline
 
once upon a time I knew a bit of MIPS, and made a pipeline...long forgotten now, though
 
@BenNiehoff MIPS is malware
 
christ
@BernardoMeurer really?
have you told Bob that OSX is malware?
 
7:32 PM
@0celouvsky Well, no, it's just shit
@0celouvsky No, I'll do it in person
 
you're never gonna see bob
 
I don't think that word means what you think it means
 
who, me?
 
malware
 
@BenNiehoff Who told you that? I bet some malware
 
7:35 PM
inconceivable!
 
@BenNiehoff are you a Sicilian?
 
@BenNiehoff You're italian?
 
no
I don't think I've ever been mistaken for Italian before, lol
 
@BenNiehoff Well, you are now
Make me pasta
 
7:43 PM
wtf
that's horribly racist
 
I don't think I understand where this conversation went anymore
 
@BenNiehoff An all too common occurrence here :P
 
@BenNiehoff There's no system but GNU and Linux is one of it's kernels
 
@ACuriousMind Did you ever learn about Fredholm operators by chance?
 
@0celouvsky hahahahahaha...no
 
7:46 PM
@ACuriousMind Can you see if you find a fault in my CPU design? It involves checking for same colored squares in a column of a spreadsheet in some office application
 
@ACuriousMind ...I missed the joke?
 
@BernardoMeurer wat
 
yeah, that sounds like a pretty bizarre thing to do
 
@0celouvsky I'm just somewhat amused at the things you think I might know. Then again, I guess I've displayed some bizarre knowledge before... :P
 
@ACuriousMind That's why I said "by chance"
I am now hunting in 1950s functional analysis books
 
7:53 PM
Anybody know some Noether type method that is different from Noether's theorem and came up first in gravity?
 
of course this book proves it in complete generality
why can't life be easy
 
"Noether's theorem allows for an iterative method to construct invariant actions" eq. 2.6 on slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-7611.pdf
 
Ah, the "Noether method" is how they constructed the SUGRA actions back in the day
 
Any references
 
i.e. the most mind-numbingly tedious way to do it!
 
7:59 PM
@ACuriousMind For the record, I wanted to show that $\dim\ker:\mathscr F(H)\to\Bbb N_0$ is semicontinuous wrt. small $\mathscr B(H)$ perturbations
 
@bolbteppa Look at the original paper by Scherk et al for 11d case, shouldn't be hard to find the rest
 
The answer appears to be in Kato
 
@BenNiehoff Is there a non-tedious way to do it?
 
@ACuriousMind Maybe not :(
 

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