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12:22 PM
hello
 
hi @heather
 
got a cool new hat =)
not secret, though
 
ur not weaaring it tho
 
i am indeed
its a nice leonardo da vinci style beard and cap
 
oh awesome i want one of those
 
12:26 PM
it's the polymath badge - get one answer with at least 1 upvote on three sites other than SO that haven't been closed or deleted or anything.
 
sounds hard
I wonder if beta sites contriubute to it
 
think so, yeah
i did an answer on mse, an answer here on pse, and an answer on theoretical computer science.se
 
I never understood why there is a separate the. CS site.
Anyone?
 
Why not?
 
CS = math; tcs = MO
(in a nutshell)
 
12:32 PM
^
 
OK..
 
anyone know how to get the blue in the face hat?
 
I liked cs when I was younger. Like grade 6 or so.
 
cs is cool =)
 
I eventually discovered that there's nothing beyond the human mind :)
 
12:34 PM
what do oyu mean @SwapnilDas
 
@SwapnilDas How does that have anything to do with CS?
 
I prefer neuroscience to computerscience
 
@heather I got it after I'd commented to some posts. Maybe it's something to do with commenting. As in talking till you're blue in the face maybe.
 
Philosophical. Leave that.
 
@JohnRennie, ah, okay.
@BernardoMeurer, nice hat, it matches your profile picture.
 
12:35 PM
@heather Thank you :)
 
@heather You would like to become an experimentalist ?
 
@SwapnilDas, I dunno, I just know that physics, math, engineering, and computer science are very interesting and i want to do something related to those fields =)
 
Great. Best luck!
 
@JohnRennie or you could hold your breath :p
 
=) thanks
 
12:38 PM
what about biology?
 
Having an oldish viewpoint, I couldn't have exposure of cs.
 
maybe there will be more computer-biological interfaces in the future
mabye
 
Oh no.
@Kenshin like biology?
 
huh
 
@Kenshin ?
 
12:40 PM
@SwapnilDas?
what are you asking me bro
Hello @Qmechanic
 
A question bro :P
Do u like bio?
 
yeah of course bro
 
Oh great.
 
I like truth
and all attempts to arive at it
 
Hmm.
 
12:43 PM
Way too much memorization in bio
 
biology answers many questions the ancient philosophers could only guess at
YEs there is more memorization in biology than physics
 
Biology is taught horribly.
 
yes maybe
 
I of course hate it.
 
Biology is the study of life
 
12:44 PM
Yah
 
meh, life
 
We are all life forms
 
physics is much cooler
 
Lol
 
don't you want to know thyself?
 
12:44 PM
=P
 
Oh our Shakespeare
 
@Kenshin not particularly
 
Physics is only important because it gave rise to life
 
So we win :P
 
physics is always important
3
 
12:45 PM
Is physics important without life?
Without anyone there to appreciate and observe it?
 
yes
 
Yes
 
Did everyone do shrooms today or something?
 
No it's not, it's meaningless without life
 
Why are all of you talking stupid
 
12:46 PM
@BernardoMeurer not me =)
 
@heather You better not do shrooms
 
but its early in the morning, so my brain's off anyway
 
(without me)
 
^ !?
i'm not doing shrooms, don't worry
 
@SwapnilDas biology explains why the mind thinks, and what motivates you to do what you do
 
12:47 PM
that's more psychology
 
@heather It's a joke
 
No psychology is the early attempt
which as been refined by modern neuroscience
 
which can map out the motivation parthways in teh brain
 
12:48 PM
Life is the complex output of simple mathematical laws that govern nature :)
 
required xkcd
 
many of the "theories" of psychology can now actually be objectively observed in neuroscience
 
physics is still best
xkcd says so
case closed.
 
physics is the basis, but once you knwo the basis it is meaningless unles syou apply it
 
I am in love
(Yes, I'm aware it's the 3rd time this week)
Also I finally got Tetris for the gameboy
 
12:49 PM
With the game or..?
 
@BernardoMeurer i have a theremin, though i'm no good at playing it
 
@heather That woman playing on the video is my one true love
 
uh-huh.
you said that about ACM's social media friend.
 
@heather I have a lot of love to give
 
gotcha =P
 
12:51 PM
@heather Don't u think math and physics deserve same positions?
So much distance is a bit...
 
@SwapnilDas, yes. the diagram is only accurate up to a point.
 
what's with this "positions" rubbish
the diagram is bs
 
but it is about purity.
 
You are all talking rubbish
 
@Kenshin no, the diagram is perfectly right.
 
12:52 PM
@heather No it is not
 
@BernardoMeurer what am I saying that's rubbish?
 
u said the diagram was rite
 
@heather "It's about purity"
 
physics is just applied social science
4
 
Rubbish has its own frame of reference.
 
12:53 PM
ultimately we study physics to gain technology to improve quality of life
 
@Kenshin That's the stupidest thing I ever heard
 
the game we play is life
 
@Kenshin What? That's not why we study physics!
 
and we do whatever we can to survive
@BernardoMeurer there are deeper pyschological reasons for why we study physics
 
I starred it for everyone to read
 
12:54 PM
that I don't have the time to explain
but ultimately it is psychology and our need for surivival/meaning
 
@Kenshin One day I hope they cure whatever disorder you seem to have
 
@BernardoMeurer mate you're delusional
 
Having opinions isn't bad, either
 
If you study history, it is clear that human endeavours are for human survival
 
That's what drives progress ;)
 
12:55 PM
@Kenshin nonsense!
 
how much science has come from war
 
@Kenshin Always?
 
@SwapnilDas no!
 
Okay, since you all seem to be eating each other's regurgitation I'll just leave you to it
 
Not always, yeah heather.
 
12:56 PM
@heather Don't even bother
 
@BernardoMeurer the truth is a hard pill to swallow
 
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what's the name of the program to decrypt stuff?
 
@Kenshin I believe, physics is mostly the product of curiosity of human mind
Lol
 
1:00 PM
thanks
 
@SwapnilDas yes in part, because we have evolved to be curious beings
an animal that has a great curiosity and hence undersatnding of it's environment will survive and thrive better within that environment
 
Hmm.
 
When we understand our environment more, we feel more secure
 
I see.
 
for example, if we can detect the presence of an asteroid 100 years before it hits, we're happy
but if we are waiting and any time an asteroid could hit and destroy us all, we're less secure, and less happy
 
1:02 PM
ergh, it's not loading
 
Can't argue. You are right from your perspective
 
What's that got to do with social science?
 
No idea.
 
Sociology = the study of society
 
@Pissedofflayman "Physics" is a human endeavour that comes about when communities invest in the study of the world
 
1:05 PM
OK. Bye guys, had a nice talk ;)
 
laterz
 
@Pissedofflayman the point I was making, is that the only reason physics is important, is because the community thinks it is beneficial for the community
 
But you said
12 mins ago, by Kenshin
physics is just applied social science
 
What I mean is, physics is a tool that societies use to better themselves, the main goal is to improve society, the goal of physics shouldn't be a main gola in itself
physics is just a means to an end in society improving
 
1:08 PM
ok, fair enough
 
gtg, have a good day everyone
i'll translate your message later @BernardoMeurer
 
cya
 
writing an email to a professor to express my view after reading their articles. After at least 3 proofreading of context, it still does not look making sense and verbose
 
Past it here
 
1:23 PM
done, now its all fixed
all I need to do is to reduce the number of adjectives
 
that's easy, just get rid of the nouns :P
 
Soemtimes when I am turbulent and unsure what I am writing, I often end up writing in a chain of adjectives such as "practical influential substantial"
this easily make things verbose and I then lost track of that flow I have in writing tempoary, because it is a pain to read a paragraph that reminds of a solid wall of text
 
keep writing brief
 
...it takes practice
like all skills
 
Poll question: Which is cooler for you, theory or experiments?
 
both
 
@Ramanujan I even didn't expect it to be.
 
Theory is best
All experiments are boring
It's always scattering shit
 
@Slereah Hi 5!
I'm completely useless by hands.
 
2:40 PM
I like seeing the models of the theories coming to live in a simulation, or how formulae explains how the thing work, or scifi sounding ideas from the particle physics community
But at the same time, I like to be hands on with the stuff I am theorising
 
@Secret cool
 
(physics is harder though, because most stuff you cannot really touch directly by hands
how often will you touch an entangled pair of electrons
 
And that can't touch thing is the actual fun of physics
The subject is theoretical, but the fun is real.
:P
 
I prefer chemistry SOLELY because it is harder to get database dryness (the experience of looking at nothing but messy numbers and trying to make sense of them)
otherwise physics and chemistry are degenerate in interest levels
 
@SwapnilDas neither of them; I prefer real-world applications
3
 
2:43 PM
Good point @Loong
 
@Kenshin Oh nice
And @Loong equivalently
I'm least bothered about real world apps, personally.
But also, it shouldn't be everyone's case.
 
@SwapnilDas once you know all theoeretical physics like me you'll get bored without applications ;p
 
Nah, guaranteedly. We fundamentally have different perspectives about nature :)
 
3:12 PM
That @Loong would be "applied social science." :P
2 hours ago, by Pissed off layman
12 mins ago, by Kenshin
physics is just applied social science
 
ouch
 
Repost ;)
Also, mathematics shouldn't be on the same axis as the sciences.
 
the real axis?
the applications definitely run out once you get that far out :P
 
@DanielSank Isn't mathematics a science?
 
@SwapnilDas I don't think so.
 
3:26 PM
Umm. OK.
 
Obviously, we should consult a reasonable definition of science.
 
Anything that explains the world accurately?
 
Haha
 
@Slereah Do you completely agree with the I vs CS graph?
 
maths to me is a science
 
@Secret Same here.
 
$$\textrm{Maths}=\textrm{Mathematics}+\textrm{Statistics}$$
 
@Slereah Also, the graph predicts that theorists and mathematical physicists have a perfect balance of imagination and common sense. Excellent.
 
3:45 PM
won't that be the conference organiser?
 
Lol yes.
 
Using superfields, the calculation is trivial, so we will just quote the result:

$$Γ = ☎^{-1}ΨΨ^-,$$

where $☎$ is the telephone operator. (When acting on the vacuum, it produces a dialatone state.)
This joke will never not be great
 
But he's in extremes.
@Slereah Wave function and gamma function?
 
I need the inverse telephone operator. Anyone have tachyonic fields?
 
Tachyon fields do not violate causality
 
3:58 PM
"The tachyon orders a beer."
 
One thing I do wonder is
Is there a reasonable field that violates causality
Locally, that is
just a field that spreads in spacelike directions
 
according to some, a Rarita-Schwinger violates causality
 
Let's check
By the way
I forgot if it was decided here or on another physics chat I went to
But the proper term for spin 3/2 field has been dubbed a "schwingor"
Scalar, spinor, vector, schwingor, tensor
(by me)
 
Raritor doesn't roll off the tongue
 
4:02 PM
in Spanish rarita means weird
its like the weird Schwinger field
 
"Velo and Zwanziger showed in 1969 that a Lorentz covariant theory does not automatically satisfy the theory of relativity"
Dang it
 
Your discussion sounds cool.
 
Reeee
Orlando Florida, Topology, holonomy, homology, homotopy, homosapiens, cohomology, cohosalmon, and the mohorovic discontinuity, Colorado preprint OOO-000 (Tuesday 1981).
:D
Archimedes, "Super G-String Field Theory," Athens preprint (Δεχ., 3rd yr. of the 7th Olympiad).
 
4:55 PM
@AccidentalFourierTransform Lol
 
5:29 PM
@JohnRennie Did you know about this video? ;) youtube.com/watch?v=rTfnTbu_6-g
 
Yes
It was amusing at first, but the novelty wore off a while ago.
 
Mar 15 at 18:15, by Bernard Meurer
I stand by my words
 
Dec 1 at 7:51, by John Rennie
While there's a certain amusement factor in those videos I find it is beginning to wear a bit thin. If no more videos from him were posted here I wouldn't be terribly disappointed.
Damn that one was hard to find
Mostly because I didn't remember any specific phrase from it
 
Ah you got the booby hat.
Was it to do with posting comments?
 
Probably
 
5:34 PM
@JohnRennie How does it affect PSE ?
 
@PhysicsGuy How does what affect PSE? That video?
 
I post a lot of comments, though, so it's hard to tell what kind of comments may trigger it
 
@JohnRennie Yes.
 
The video affects physics.SE only in so far as it amuses the population of this chatroom :P
 
Ok.
 
5:37 PM
@PhysicsGuy It doesn't affect the PSE at all. Why should it?
 
@JohnRennie I don't know. It seemed to be like that, because it has so often been posted here.
 
@PhysicsGuy It's just that we found it funny (at first). The amateur physicist who thinks he knows it all is a phenomenon all physicists encounter at some point. We have a few examples here on this site.
 
I AM THE TROPHY MAN
 
@BernardoMeurer Somebody won you in a competition? :-)
 
@JohnRennie My neighbour
 
5:43 PM
Ah, you got the hat.
I'm struggling to find any amusing way to wear that particular hat ...
 
@JohnRennie Bernardo seems to think that placing it right over his face is an improvement :P
 
@ACuriousMind Experimental evidence is always the deciding factor :-)
 
@BernardoMeurer How many contestants were there?
 
@ACuriousMind Two, actually
@ACuriousMind Screw you man, I'm just trying to make people not fall in love :P
 
@BernardoMeurer I do not consider people falling in love a bad thing
 
5:47 PM
@BernardoMeurer you found two people who wanted a footrest?
 
@JohnRennie That would be easy! I found two women who wanted to talk to me :P
@ACuriousMind Talk to my neighbour
 
@BernardoMeurer So she can fall in love with me? Sure ;P
 
@ACuriousMind You look at her I'm cutting your hair
 
@BernardoMeurer Lots of women want to talk to me. They just don't want to tear all my clothes off and ravish me all nght long.
Just as well really, my back is a bit sore at the moment.
 
@BernardoMeurer That doesn't sound very lovely
 
5:50 PM
@JohnRennie That gave me all sorts of images in my head
 
You should caress it instead
 
@BernardoMeurer I'm not sure I want the details :-)
 
@JohnRennie I'd get banned if I told you anyways
@ACuriousMind How often do you wash it?
 
@BernardoMeurer <3
 
@DanielSank <3
 
6:01 PM
@AccidentalFourierTransform $\varepsilon>$
 
6:11 PM
@BernardoMeurer Everyday, except sometimes on days where I know I don't leave the house
 
@ACuriousMind oh no, that's bad for your kidneys
trust me, I'm an astronaut
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Then you don't wanna know what I do to my liver ;)
 
let me guess, you caress it too
 
Yes, with the soft touch of ethanol
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Washing your hair is bad for your kidneys?
 
6:17 PM
@JohnRennie no, leaving the house
 
I think these hats are causing excessive cranial compression with corresponding unfortunate side effects.
 
Wait, since when does the Community user start bounties?! physics.stackexchange.com/questions/247585/…
 
ah, makes sense
 
^ ?
 
lol please send help
 
6:57 PM
man is physics always this messy? i'm doing research on water running down the edge of the cup and people have like 4 different opinions. i'm sure this isn't even bad compared to most of the things you guys see everyday
 
@mochacat if the answer were known then it would be simpler, yes, but then it also wouldn't be an open problem.
When you don't know what's going on, then it's messy.
 
7:47 PM
@DanielSank ah, English is tough :/
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform can be ;-)
That hat is perfect. @Kaumudi.H would be envious.
 
I know, right? the rest of hats don't work well with my avatar :P
 
8:22 PM
I'm pretty sure the song is called Катюша.
 
8:50 PM
Someone stop this woman, my heart cannot take it
 

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