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10:00 PM
Li likes to talk about himself in the third person
 
but there exist definite values that had definite values before the measurement, they just changed during the measurement. A point of the Coleman lecture is that it's "nonlocal realism" or "local QM", period.
@ViEsr
 
@0celo7 I'm not gonna argue with you that I was going to flag you for the blatant insults you wisely deleted.
 
@NeuroFuzzy Yes, but a wave function too doesn't exist then I guess
It is just a tool
?
 
Man
Trying to find a chinese paper isn't easy
The authors are Li, Xu and Liu
None of which are unique names at all
 
Trying to translate "Associated to a divisor is a holomorphic line bundle, to a meromorphic function a line bundle together with a holomorphic section, and to a line bundle its Chern class", I hopefully see that a meromorphic function has a line bundle of derivatives to it, and that the collection of derivatives has a Chern class which is just some way of determining twitstedess as in Mobius V Cylinder.
But coming from the other angle, some notion of polygons is associated to a collection of derivatives somehow. Weird...
 
10:02 PM
@ViEsr I agree and disagree... the angles/positions of a rigid body in classical mechanics also don't exist, and are just mathematical tools.
 
Yes, but somethings exist
Like say momentum
We believe a particle is actually carrying it
or a field
which itself is present
 
"Since a compact complex manifold admits no global holomorphic functions, we might rather expect its structure to be reflected in the global meromorphic functions and related linear systems of divisors on the manifold"
 
@bolbteppa I'm going to maintain that this seems weird because it has nothing to do with derivatives at all ;) The correspondence divisor <-> line bundle, section of line bundle <-> function with poles and line bundle <-> Homology class is completely general.
 
@ViEsr Well, if you know anything less than the wavefunction you can't totally predict its state in the future. And if you toss out local realism as suggested then there is nothing more you can know than the wavefunction
Maybe I'm not giving what you say enough credit, though.
 
But if you are analyzing $y = f(x)$ it's line bundle is the collection of derivatives along the curve, why does that dissappear for complex functions?
 
10:08 PM
"A space with a complex metric permitted by quantum cosmology is given; two regions, one containing no closed causal curve and one containing closed timelike curves, are separated by a complex region. Through quantum tunneling one can travel from one region to the other. The vacuum polarization stress-energy tensor converges everywhere so the space is stable. This challenges Hawking's chronology protection conjecture and highlights on building a time machine."
If you have to put in a complex metric, maybe it is not that challenged
"Through a quantum process, a complex geometry might be created *from a Lorentzian geometry."
A tad hopeful
 
@bolbteppa Well, it doesn't disappear. You can probably still construct the thing explicitly with Dolbeault differentials or something. It's just that the phenomenon is far more general. But I've got a feeling that you are trying to do something completely different from what I'd do here, so I'll shut up about it now
 
"I construct a spacetime with closed timelike curves and without closed causal geodesics."
Heyyy
That's the answer to my SE question, maybe!
"the renormalized stress-energy tensor of vacuum fluctuations should not diverge because there does not exist a closed null geodesic which is the origin of the divergence"
Seems to be it, yes
He cheats a bit by making it a spacetime with boundaries, though
Hm wonder if there's a theorem specifying that the Cauchy horizon of a non-chronological spacetime always has closed null curves
(that are geodesics)
Guys, is there really a particular paper layout for crazy people
Or is my heart just cold and filled with hate
I don't know why but it seems most crazy people fear using LaTeX
 
10:24 PM
That is completely and definitely true.
(based on anecdotal evidence)
 
It's kind of "I want to imitate real science paper but I only know how to use Words"
 
Just remember the evidence of Einstein is not anecdotal :P
 
naught but woo
 
@HDE226868 Uh, I'm not even sure it is supersymmetry and string theory he called fringe science in there, but that answer is just gibberish.
 
10:36 PM
> I figured I might go outside of the box (fringe science?!). I think the theory is called supersymmetry which I guess could turn what we know upside down?
 
Well, the "?!" might indicate hyperbola/tongue-in-cheek phrasing :P
It's completely unclear what supersymmetry has to do with anything there, though
 
I think he just wanted to impress with his science mastery
 
"It is well known that a cohomology class can be uniquely expressed by a harmonic form. To show that a certain cohomology group vanishes, it is equivalent to show that every harmonic form form that cohomology group is identically zero."
http://mathoverflow.net/a/212214
Very cool
 
You know
I'm not quite sure those papers on string theory in a CTC background are quantum things
I wonder if it's classical NG action
 
"Fact: Solving a system of equations of arbitrary degrees reduces to solving a system of quadratic equations (no restriction on the number of variables)"
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~jean/calgeom.pdf
Today is a day full of weird surprises!
 
11:03 PM
My Physics book I'm reading right now is saying that because the field of a bar magnet is not uniform, the magnetic dipole in an an unmagnetized iron nail is attracted to it, but wouldn't it also be attracted to the magnet if it were uniform as well?
 
11:22 PM
Hm
 
Apparently replacing CTCs with their covering space, when possible, leads to singularities
 
Already got one other collaborator. Making fast progress, i.e. a few problems per night.
Join in the fun!
 
Although apparently that's only for contractible CTCs
I guess that it's pretty easy to unwrap the torus spacetime
 
Seriously, I will even fund a copy of the book for anyone interested!
 
11:28 PM
I don't know stochastic stuff man
I don't want to, that might increase the GDP
 
@DanielSank Uh, can you wait a few years?
I probably need to know measure theory, Calc variations, PDEs, etc.
 
Oh wait
I guess contractible vs. non-contractible is a better classification of CTCs than "topologically trivial"
Basically the same
except more accurate
 
@Slereah What other notion of "topologically trivial" were you considering?
 
Well I wanted a nice term to say "This CTC does not stem from a topology trick"
But even in a non-trivial manifold that could still happen
So contractible is a much better notion
 
11:45 PM
What is a topologically trivial in this case
 
Well the manifold
aka $\mathbb{R}^n$
but it was not exactly the notion I wanted
 
Oh it's globally homeo to Rn
 
It's just the boring manifold
Hey, topology question
Is a manifold that can have one coordinate chart always $\mathbb{R}^n$ with holes in
 
Come again?
 
Is there any topology that you can get other than $\mathbb{R}^n$ with a countable number of points removed if you have only one coordinate chart
 
11:54 PM
@Slereah No, by definition of a chart, existence of a global chart means that the entire thing is homeomorphic to $\mathbb{R}^n$.
I don't even see why you think you can remove points
 
Well because the chart is only to open sets of $R^n$, no?
Not necessarily the entire manifold
 
Hm, well, depends how you define "global chart" or "chart" in the first place.
 
A diffeomorphism between the manifold and an open set of $R^n$?
 
Because pointwise, the definition "there is a neighbourhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $\mathbb{R}^n$" is equivalent to "there is a nhbd homeomorphic to a connected open subset of $\mathbb{R}^n$ is equivalent to "there is a nhbd homeomorphic to the open unit ball in $\mathbb{R}^n$".
 
Can we replace the shorthand for neighbourhood by "neigh."
That way it sounds like we are horses
 
11:58 PM
For a "global chart", the answer to your question depends on which of these you want to make global.
 
Just call it hood
 

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