Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Mysticial

00:00

I don't think being at the top of that query is a good thing... :)

Logan M

@Eric That's effectively what that guy did without even trying to. Except that on Physics being in the top 1000 users is almost trivial, so he doesn't have to worry about it.

I just realized I never even hit the rep cap on Physics. I did on Theoretical Physics, but the badge didn't transfer.

lol maybe I should go do that.

Mysticial

lol

Eric

@LoganM Whatever floats your boat, lol.

Do either of you know of an online utility like AutoCAD? Illustrator obviously hates precision.

Mysticial

nope

Logan M

Me neither.

Eric

00:10

Dang it.

Logan M

00:31

Stats are up for this week.

Mysticial

cool

Eric

Graphed if anyone cares. That visits/day anomaly is still weird to me.

Mysticial

your graph sucks :P

Eric

Hey, I made it in like, 30 minutes last week.

I never cleaned it up. :P

Mysticial

By sucks, I mean, it's blank.

Eric

00:34

The Google Charts API was annoying as hell to work with already.

._.

It's not blank, you liez.

If you have JS disabled, it won't work.

Mysticial

oh yes it is

JS is enabled.

Logan M

Definitely blank

Mysticial

SEEEEEEEE :PPPPPP

Eric

Weird. Working fine here. Will screenshot.

Logan M

Are you sure you got the URL right? It's supposed to be "http://localhost/amsegraph/?data=..."?

Eric

00:36

.. oh, f. I actually copied the localhost one.

Haha.

Mysticial

lol

Eric

Real graph. For serious this time. :P

Mysticial

That's not a graph. That's 6 graphs.

:P

Eric

@Mysticial Don't make me send you a rageface. :P

Mysticial

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

Logan M

00:40

visits/day anomaly was clearly just statistical fluctuation. It's not worth worrying about now that we've past it.

Eric

@LoganM Yeah. It was just weird.

Logan M

The only interesting thing I can tell from the data this week is that our visits/day is still increasing on average. Ans ratio and % answered are useless. Q/day is just random noise with average ~5, though it's stabilized a bit recently. Total users and avid users are both growing at about the same rate as the previous data.

Eric

The biggest thing for me here is seeing that our users are still increasing and our Q/d is now around 5 (whereas it used to be 4-4.5).

I thought our avid user count was dwindling. (Not going down, just slowing.)

But apparently not.

Logan M

Assuming those trends continue, it might be worth putting some effort into raising ans ratio and % answered. We can't tell anything from the graphs, but answer ratio at least has to improve quite a bit, and I can't really bring myself to believe it's increasing.

Mysticial

lol at the answer ratio for code-golf...

Logan M

00:50

I'm still planning on making a list of answered questions which might benefit from another answer, but it won't happen until next weekend at the earliest.

Mysticial

I have a few questions myself that I'm looking for a better answer.

Logan M

@Mysticial IIRC they're really high.

In terms of answer ratio, IMO our site is always going to have trouble. For something like chess, any experienced chess player can comment on any board position. Their comments might not be as good of an answer as someone more experienced, but anyone can answer any of the questions.

But for us, even if I've seen hundreds of anime, it's still very easy to stump me with something I haven't seen. And most of our answers are factual, not speculative, so there's often not so much room for lots of answers on one question.

I'm not sure how gaming managed 2.3 answer ratio when they graduated, because it seems like they'd have at least some of the same problems. But they're still on the low end of graduated sites, so we should aim for at least that.

Eric

@LoganM This is why I think a little bit of speculation is okay.

Answer ratio does need to be upped, for sure.

Logan M

@Eric A bit of speculation is good for our answer ratio, but I don't think it's good for our site image. Of course I'm fine with reasonable speculation when there isn't a good canonical answer, but IMO we shouldn't be encouraging it.

Eric

@LoganM You're right in some regards, but there are questions we can't answer fully. (The moth one is a good example, though I'm trying my best to find citations on it.)

Like, "I think X means Y" is a bad answer. But "It is likely that X means Y based on _____" can be a good answer.

Logan M

01:03

@Eric Moth one is hard. Some of my questions I know the answer to when I ask them, but that isn't one of them.

Eric

I think I figured it out, actually. But it's not an easy one to prove, for sure.

I think our biggest problem is that we have too many active users who know a lot of the answers, and give good answers. Why is it bad to have good answers? Because then better answers can't replace them.

An example (from my own profile):

8

A: Who is Domo-kun?

Dōmo-kun is the official character or mascot for the Japanese broadcasting channel Nippon Hōsō Kyōkai (NHK). According to Wikipedia, he was created in 1998 and named after a pun on "Hello there!": Domo-kun first appeared in short stop-motion sketches on 22 December 1998 to mark the 10th anniv...

Like, can any other user make an answer that is going to rival it? Likely not.

Logan M

Looking at their statistics, I'm a bit surprised Skeptics graduated. It seems like there are better sites in Area51 which still haven't graduated.

Eric

They may have had less internal issues.

i.e. Things Politics didn't.

I'm amazed their answer ratio isn't higher, actually.

.. Wait, what?

How did they grad with 5.7 q/d?

Logan M

@Eric Compare to Startups, which has amazing statistics.

Eric

Yeah...

Wtf.

Logan M

01:09

Still in Beta. It might be due to internal issues, but that isn't showing up in their stats.

Eric

Yeah... I really have no idea. They should be graduating if Skeptics did.

Logan M

@Eric RPG had even lower, but overall their stats are good other than that.

It could be because Startups doesn't have any 20k users. Most graduated sites that I've seen had at least a few users near or above 20k when they graduated. That's important because for graduated sites it's where the rep bonuses end, so those users are basically trusted almost to the same level as mods.

Anyway based on what I've seen, we very likely won't graduate this year, based on extrapolating our current growth rates. I don't think it's productive at this time to worry about that, but we should try to improve our stats in those categories anyway since doing so would hopefully also change our culture towards more answers/question.

Eric

01:35

@LoganM What are the extrapolated results? Sorry for the delay, had to shovel a foot of snow.

Logan M

02:05

@Eric I didn't actually calculate them, just estimated in my head.

Mostly traffic. It seems like our views per day is increasing about 10-15 per week. If I extrapolate that for 50 weeks, we'd be at around 800-1050, which isn't enough for graduation. But that's a really crude approximation.

Eric

I did a line of best fit, and it's not fantastic.

~700 in another 340 days.

(One year from the start of the stats.)

Logan M

My best guess is that our growth will be superlinear but subexponential in the near term.

If we assume we have a linear growth rate in questions (I think this is reasonable), and each question generates a fairly constant number of hits/day after a brief period of high activity on the front page, we'd expect quadratic traffic growth.

OTOH if we factor in friends telling their friends about us, that's an exponential effect, but I think on the timescale of a year it's small enough to treat perturbatively.

(of course mathematically that makes no sense, since any continuous function on a compact interval is uniformly approximated by polynomials, but let's ignore that and think the same way biologists do when they model population growth)

With just a few weeks of data these would not be distinguishable, but after a few months we'll have a better picture.

Eric

@LoganM "OTOH"?

Logan M

02:20

@Eric "On the other hand"

Eric

Ah, gotcha.

Yeah, after another month and a half, we'll have a better idea of stats growth.

Logan M

BTW @Eric did you watch The Tatami Galaxy?

Eric

@LoganM Nope. Thinking of it, it's short.

Logan M

@Eric It's very good, but it's also pretty confusing.

Eric

It seems to leave a lot to conjecture.

I read a film analysis of it (for the moth part) and it seemed like it was a lot of extrapolation.

Logan M

02:32

The image in the Tag Wiki is a good description of what the show is like.

Eric

@LoganM lol

Does every room have a moth in it?

Logan M

I don't remember anything like that, but it's possible. I know every room has a mochiguman and a Castella and maybe some other stuff.

Eric

I'll have to watch it to be sure. But I think that's part of the answer.

Logan M

It's a nice short watch, though I found myself pausing the video almost as much as I did during Bakemonogatari so it's probably 30 minutes per episode or more to get everything.

Eric

Pausing to reflect?

Logan M

02:36

@Eric To read

Eric

Read? It has reading cards or something?

Logan M

@Eric No, just a lot of fast dialogue and background text

Eric

Ohhh. Yeah, I found that in S;G, too. Not that much, but a min or so every episode.

Reading the texts and such.

Logan M

You'll understand if you watch the beginning of the first episode.

►

Eric

Ahhhh, they speak so fast, too.

But I see what you mean.

Logan M

02:44

It's not that bad with the funi subs. The version I have the subs are much more verbose deliberately to reflect how they are talking in Japanese. Now that I understand Japanese I can follow it without the subs, which really improves things, but when I watched it I hadn't learned much so it was very difficult to follow.

Eric

I can't hear Japanese at all. I can write/read a bit, but, I can't understand spoken words.

Logan M

I learned a lot through anime. You can't learn everything that way, and there's always a possibility of mistranslations or just misunderstanding what something means, but it's still a good way to learn.

Eric

The hardest part for me is figuring out the word boundaries.

For example: kanashimiikarichikaranikaete.

One of the first phrases I learned, but without spaces, ha, yeah right.

Logan M

Once you hear it enough, you can discern where the spaces between words are to be based on which syllables are accented etc.

Eric

You can? haha

Guess I'm not there yet.

Logan M

02:54

You'll get the hang of it eventually. Try watching some light shows like K-on or Keroro Gunsou without subs and see how much you can make out. I don't recommend doing what I did, where Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei was the 2nd anime I watched without subs. That took >2 hours per episode.

Eric

Were you still able to understand it?

Logan M

@Eric I thought I was. Then I went back and watched it with subs and realized how much I missed.

Eric

Ah, yeah. I've been trying to learn through the theme song lyrics.

The phrase I showed above was from one of FMA:B's opening themes.

Logan M

I think I could watch it now without subs (haven't tried), but watching Bakemonogatari without subs was hard as-is and SZS is sure to be harder.

Eric

K-On and Keroro Gunsou are slower, though?

Logan M

02:59

@Eric Keroro Gunsou is a children's show. K-On isn't, but it's slice of life and moves slowly and is easy to understand. I could probably come up with more recommendations, but those were just off the top of my head.

Eric

Alright. I'll download a few episodes of one of them onto my phone and watch it on the train sometime.

Logan M

If you're a total beginner (<1 year experience) then even those might be hard. Doraemon, Chi's sweet Home, My Neighbor Totoro, or Sazae-san are even easier. Those are sort of the anime equivalents of Sesame street: they're marketed towards young children, but are still enjoyable for adults.

Eric

"My Neighbor Totoro" seems familiar. Isn't that a movie?

Logan M

@Eric It's a Miyazaki movie.

Eric

Figured. Are the others series, or movies?

Logan M

03:11

It popped into my head when I thought of children's anime, and I didn't see much harm in including it.

@Eric Pokemon and Detective Conan are also pretty basic, and there's lots of episodes (not nearly as many as Doraemon or Sazae-san, but still plenty). Once you can watch those without trouble, you're probably ready to watch most normal shounen stuff like One Piece or Dragon Ball.

Eric

@LoganM Oh, man! I haven't watched Pokemon in ages! I will totally try that one, lol.

Logan M

@Eric I watched a lot of Pokemon when I was learning. That's the only reason I know anything about the Diamond & Pearl anime.

Eric

lol

You stream your anime from an external HDD, right?

Logan M

@Eric I copy it onto my C: drive before I watch it. The externals are great for storing stuff, but they sometimes don't have high enough read speeds to watch 1080p BDs, especially if the group likes to do crazy karaoke effects during the OPs.

Eric

@LoganM Yeah, that's what I was wondering about. I was going to get a 3TB or something, but I didn't want to be lagging while trying to watch it.

Logan M

03:20

For lower quality stuff, like 720p TV rips, it usually does just fine. The trouble is almost always with the OPs and EDs, since they usually have higher animation quality and karaoke going on simultaneously. My computer handles it just fine, but my external sometimes has trouble.

So I just keep 60 GB of free space on my computer's internal drive. I can freely transfer between them whenever I want like that.

Eric

@LoganM Doesn't that deter the "I want to watch anime, and I want to watch it NOW!" feeling? :P

Logan M

@Mysticial probably has better advice regarding this. I don't know what effect it has on drive lifespans and other things like that.

@Eric No, because I still have 4 or 5 series on my computer at any time. I can watch those whenever I want. If I want to rewatch a series it takes a few minutes to transfer the first episode before I can start, but that's tolerable.

Actually right now I have 20 series on my computer. Which is probably more like the average.

Eric

lol

I have... 3.

And a 4th on DVD.

The rest I just stream when I want to watch.

Logan M

Last time I counted, I had around 30 series on DVD. I usually only buy the good ones, but that's still 10 per year or something like that.

Eric

... I feel so out of place here... haha

Logan M

03:28

@Eric I think I'm the one who should feel out of place. lol.

Eric

@LoganM Not really! It's an Anime & Manga chat, the more you're into it, the more you fit. :P

Logan M

@Eric Trust me, there's a certain point after which even anime fans are out of place on a site like this. I'm not sure exactly where, but I'm pretty sure I crossed it well before I threw a birthday party for a fictional character 3 years in a row.

Eric

@LoganM Which character is that? Miki?

(I think that was her name.)

Logan M

@Eric Yup

Eric

When's her birthday?

j/c

Mysticial

03:34

Oh hey I got a ping. :)

Logan M

@Eric Nov. 23

Eric

lol... I know only one character's birthday. Shinji from Evangelion, June 6th.

Logan M

(I feel stupid for typing her birthday wrong. Of course I knew it was 11/23, but somehow I typed Nov 11 instead because I was half doing the American date scheme and half the European one)

Eric

No worries. I've done that with my own birthday.

When I was getting a vaccination in grade 9 I said it was August 8th, which it's not. (August being the 8th month.)

Logan M

@Eric I wouldn't care if it was my own birthday. I forgot my own birthday one year. But Miki's birthday is important.

Eric

03:37

@LoganM .. Okay, now you should feel out of place. :P

@Mysticial Yes, you did. RESPECT THE PING!

Logan M

@Eric Actually the way I remember my birthday now is that it's exactly one month after Miki's. lol.

Eric

@LoganM How could you forget a birthday two days before Christmas?

Logan M

Because Christmas is boring. My family didn't really do much for it. Sometimes I'd get an alarm clock or a CD, but usually I just got socks.

Eric

YES! SOCKS!

sock.open();

So @Mysticial, how do you play your anime? From external, or what?

Mysticial

@Eric external

Eric

03:47

How fast is your playback rate?

Mysticial

Almost all my data is external

@Eric How fast?

Eric

Well yeah, do you get frame drops or anything?

While playing.

Mysticial

nope

Eric

Is it a media HDD? Like, through HDMI?

Mysticial

just on my monitor

All my anime is just data files. Mostly .mkvs

Eric

03:51

I'm just afraid any external disk I get is going to give me playback FPS issues.

Mysticial

That's not gonna be a problem. Even USB2 is fast enough.

Eric

Alright. Yeah, my Alienware doesn't have any USB 3.0 on it.

I was pissed when I found out.

Mysticial

If it lags out, the entire player will freeze for seconds at a time as it runs out of it's read buffer.

If it ever does lag, it's usually the decoder that's unable to handle it in real-time.

This happens on my netbook, which has a shitty CPU and graphics card.

Eric

Graphics card is not an issue here.

Logan M

@Mysticial I sometimes have trouble with the OPs and EDs on the higher quality anime with USB 2.0. It can play just fine if there's no subs, but karaoke effects really slow things down. I think S;G was like that for me with the 1080p BD releases.

Mysticial

04:03

@LoganM It's not the USB bandwidth. It's the fancy lyrics which are poorly handled and suck up all your CPU power.

When that happens, it's usually the case of finding the right codec to install.

Logan M

@Mysticial No trouble if it's on my C: drive, only if it's on an external.

Mysticial

@LoganM That's interesting...

It shouldn't make a difference.

Is this USB 3?

Logan M

It might affect things that I'm usually torrenting off whatever drives I have plugged in. That probably eats up some of the bandwidth.

@Mysticial 2. 3 doesn't give me any problems.

Mysticial

If your drive is busy doing other things, yes, it might lag.

That's usually because the queuing doesn't know how to prioritize the requests it gets.

So it's not uncommon for a file copy to starve out a video player trying to access the same drive.

When I'm doing massive file copies to or from a drive - even over USB3, I usually cannot play Anime from it.

But I doubt a torrent will be able to starve it out. Unless you had a really spectacular internet connection.

Logan M

That makes sense. I prefer to have whatever I'm watching on my laptop's local drive anyway because I sometimes want to watch when I don't have my drives handy, but I suspect there wouldn't be many problems playing directly off the drives if I just killed all the other processes.

Mysticial

04:11

My setup is as follows:
- 2 TB portable external: This has all my normal stuff, including currently airing Anime. It's connected to my fileserver via USB3.
- 2 x 3 TB dual-slot enclosure: This is my Anime archive of completed shows. Also on my fileserver via USB3.

All 3 drives are network shared by the fileserver.

I map them to drive letters on my main machine.

Logan M

But if I did that, we'd lose one of the few seeders for that 1.2 TB touhou music remixes torrent.

Mysticial

And I watch it from there.

So I'm not only going through USB3, but also gigabit network.

@LoganM I torrent on a completely different computer.

Which I then copy over to one of the 3 drives over gigabit ethernet.

Logan M

@Mysticial I should probably do that. But then I'd need to buy another computer, which seems stupid given that I already have 3 which I rarely use.

Mysticial

I could theoretically torrent on that same fileserver: That is, torrent to an internal drive or a different physical external drive. It wouldn't make a difference.

Torrenting isn't really resource intensive.

Needless to say, my fileserver runs 24/7.

All this is gonna change when I move back home after graduation.

I'm probably gonna retire my main machine to my parents. And start using the fileserver as my main machine.

So everything will be consolidated into one machine.

Power is expensive in California.

My fileserver is actually more powerful than my main machine. But knowing myself, I'm probably gonna build a completely new machine for no reason other than the fact that I haven't done so in 2 years.

Eric

@Mysticial You get that burning desire to replace stuff for no reason, too?

Mysticial

04:20

@Eric Only for computers.

Eric

Yup, same here.

:D

Mysticial

Otherwise, I live pretty frugally.

Eric

Same. Except for food. Otherwise, I'm low-budget.

Mysticial

I really should be waiting for the next generation Intel processors to come out before I build a new machine. They have the new instruction set that I wanna play with.

Godammit, June 2013...

I'm already gonna be back home in May.

FUCK

Eric

lol

Mysticial

04:22

What am I gonna do?

The last (new) machine I built was when Sandy Bridge just came out.

And I got caught in the entire chipset mess.

Eric

Dood, it's like, 3 months.

Chillax, drink coffee, and wait. :P

And speaking of chillaxing, it's time for me to hit ze bed. Night, guys. Have fun at work all week! Bwahahahaha.

Is a nice person

Mysticial

night

jkerian

05:01

@Mysticial home in May... weren't you entertaining some fairly interesting job offers?

Mysticial

@jkerian Yeah. I'm starting at Google in June.

jkerian

Which division/location?

Mysticial

YouTube in San Bruno

jkerian

@Eric Having a birthday right around christmas means you're far more likely to forget it... Family tends to just lump the celebrations together.

@Mysticial Cool

Any idea what you'll be doing inside of that group? or will you find that out on the second day (first day is all paperwork and meet&greet)

Mysticial

The backend client-side decoder.

jkerian

05:10

Did you warn them that having you do that type of work may require they improve their CPU cooling?

Mysticial

lol

It's client-side. So I won't be burning their machines.

:)

jkerian

heh

jkerian

05:29

good lord... anyone who says you don't need to study the hyper-formal part of the Japanese language has never looked at cross-company emails

Logan M

@jkerian I can't say I have looked at Japanese cross-company emails, but I like the really formal part of Japanese anyway. If you can pull it off correctly as a foreigner, people will be pretty impressed by you even if you haven't done anything to deserve it.

Of course, if you can't then you just look like an idiot, but that's true of any part of Japanese.

jkerian

@LoganM Not an idiot... really... just sound a bit funny.

Sorta like Americans don't actually expect an immigrant to get articles or prepositions right. Turns out that it doesn't much matter if you screw them up... most of the time.

Mysticial

Yeah, I hear that the difference between colloquial Japanese and formal Japanese is huge. Possibly worse than spoken vs. written Cantonese.

Oh and, I don't understand written Cantonese... It's a completely foreign language to me...

jkerian

@Mysticial The confusing bit about formal Japanese is that there are two different dimensions of it. There's the formality dimension for who you're talking to... which primarily affects sentence-ending conjugation. Then there's the dimension level for what you're talking about, which affects the choice of your verbs.

Both are adjusted relative to your own position and the person you're talking to. It's not actually that hard... but it's alot of variables to juggle in the middle of a conversation.

Mysticial

I guess that's a harder comparison then.

In Cantonese, speaking to someone is like English. Reading a newspaper out loud is like in Spanish.

jkerian

05:45

I'd heard someone say that Mandarin and Cantonese are two different spoken languages, sharing a written language. Is that actually true?

Mysticial

I consider myself a native speaker of Cantonese. But I don't understand a word of written Cantonese. (when read out, I can't actually read anyways.)

@jkerian yes

jkerian

awesome

Mysticial

Written Cantonese is essentially Mandarin with different pronunciations. Grammar and everything is identical.

Spoken Cantonese is a completely different language.

I only know spoken Cantonese.

Logan M

In any one conversation in Japanese, you probably won't have to shift levels much, so it's not too hard in practice. But I've never had to simultaneously converse with someone above me and someone below me. I imagine that would be very tricky and I'm pretty sure I'd mess up at least once.

Mysticial

I can see how that can be tricky.

Logan M

05:49

Actually, what is the correct protocol for that? If you're talking to a subordinate but your superior is present, should you be using honorific forms or humble forms?

jkerian

Depends on what you're talking about.

oh... subordinate, not coworker. Managers get quite a bit of leeway there. Plain or polite if they feel like it... honorifics or humble speech only applies when talking about something else.

For example, if they're talking ABOUT a customer TO a subordinate... you end up with honorific verbs, in plain form.

Logan M

That's true.

It's been a while since I've studied this stuff, and I never need it in my conversations (which are always casual), so I doubt I can still apply it properly.

All I've done recently requiring Japanese is essentially listening to it, so I'm way out of practice. I used to be a bit better than JLPT N2, but I haven't practiced for over a year so I'm probably way worse than that now.

jkerian

Hmm... JLU used to have a wonderful question about a rather convoluted family-relationship keigo situation... but I can't find it

Mysticial

If it's deleted, mods can search for it.

jkerian

It's mostly a matter of our tags being absolutely *(@&#ing worthless

I could go through a grand-retagging... which would mostly consist of changing every question to either "J->E" or "E->J"... and I'm pretty sure it would be an improvement.

Mysticial

06:01

@jkerian I suppose one of these is a better way to write it than "*(@&#ing"... :)

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Cannot Be Done I'm sorry, but this “problem” is truly impossible to solve. Consider these: ꜰᴜᴄᴋ is U+A730.1D1C.1D04.1D0B, "\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL F}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL U}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL C}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL K}" ᶠᵘᶜᵏ is U+1DA0.1D58.1D9C.1D4F, "\N{M...

You could try searching for it from Google.

Logan M

@Mysticial This is Anime chat, we can do better than that

I suggest POMF =3ing

Mysticial

@LoganM I don't think I've heard of that...

@LoganM btw, we're still miles from reaching the levels of the C++ room on SO in terms of swearing.

Logan M

@Mysticial POMF =3 (potentially NSFW)

Mysticial

oh

I've never heard of that particular acronym.

jkerian

@Mysticial You obviously don't spend enough time on 4chan's loli boards... apparently. That link was relatively safe for work, for a NSFW page.

Logan M

06:12

It's not an acronym, it's either a sound effect or an onomatopoeia.

Mysticial

@jkerian It's safe to say that I don't go on 4chan. :)

jkerian

Then again, it is 10mins after midnight here, so just about everything would be safe for work at this point.

Logan M

@jkerian lol I'm still at work, but I browse SanCom at work so I'm pretty sure everything is SFW at that point.

Mysticial

lol

jkerian

I didn't get into work until 9pm today... need some help from the Japanese site on a bug I'm working on

Mysticial

06:15

I wouldn't dare go on Sankaku in my office, even though it's all students.

Logan M

@Mysticial My office only has one other guy in it who works just 9-5 M-F, and our desks face in such a way that we can't see each other's screens. Mine's also faced away from the doorway, and I have a privacy screen to boot. Plus I always have a separate tab open which is relevant to my work (I actually do a lot of work, as surprising as it sounds) so I don't really have much to worry about.

Mysticial

风水 at it's best...

I don't have that luxury in my office.

And I'm not sure if I'll get that at Google.

I'd certainly hope that I'll be able to arrange my workspace.

jkerian

@Mysticial 风水? Thought you were illiterate?

Mysticial

@jkerian Not completely illiterate. But illiterate enough where I can brag about being illiterate.

jkerian

hehe... I had a friend who would just say he was illiterate in Japan (kept things simple)

Mysticial

06:28

I wouldn't be able to write that word by hand. But I know it when I see it, and I know how to type it.

Logan M

What's a bit more worrying is that our network administrator might notice, but given what I've heard from other students they really don't care what you use the internet for. One upper level grad student has some very questionable files in his Linux home directory, and it's public read access for anyone on our intranet. So I think I can get away with browsing.

jkerian

grr... SATA is such a crappy protocol

It's like it was specifically designed to avoid letting you know about a problem when it occured.

Logan M

@Mysticial lol I have no idea how to type 风 because it isn't Japanese AFAIK. But I'd have no problems writing either of them by hand.

Mysticial

How about: 風水

风 is simplified

Logan M

風 is fine, as is 水

Mysticial

06:32

yeah

jkerian

No longer a "bug in the wind", now a "shuriken in the wind"?

Logan M

@Mysticial I guess that should have been obvious since I've seen 風水 in Japanese

Mysticial

風水 is a complicated concept that took me a while to pick up.

It's only after I've heard my parents use it number of times in a whole bunch of situations did I finally realize what it sort of meant. Then they actually had to explain it to me.

Logan M

Well, I'll be going to bed soon. 'night all.

Mysticial

night

Krazer

11:38

@jkerian The explanation to this is long, complicated, and often disputed. One explanation says that Ancient Chinese thought insects appear with wind. (Etymology: 凡 + 虫, ordinary bugs). For the simplified version, the etymology seems to be 几 + 乂. This change might have been the result of the modern reformation of its meaning...

Eric

14:44

@jkerian Not in my experience. I have a friend born on the 27th who gets a whole celebration on that day. Probably not quite as grand, but still.

I do know a family who has 3 birthdays on Christmas. Can't imagine what that's like.

Krazer

@Eric you get to double up on the value of your present :D

Eric

@Krazer Yup! lol

Logan M

16:45

@Eric I haven't had a birthday celebration in over 10 years. Not that I really want one, but I'm pretty sure I'd get one if my birthday was at a more convenient time.

In recent years my family has decided to use my birthday as the day to do the 10 hour roadtrips to relatives through traffic, which isn't very fun.

Hence why I always forget about my birthday because it's really inconsequential.

More importantly, we've had 4 new users in 2 days, all with activity in dragon-ball. I had thought Dragon Ball was old enough that no one would care about it by now, but I guess I was wrong.

Eric

@LoganM I thought so too. I wonder if memes brought it back, lol.

Logan M

17:10

Somehow I'm the top answerer in Dragon Ball even though it's on my ignored tags. And that's even before I answered another one today.

Eric

@LoganM ... wtf? Do you look at questions on your ignored tags?

Logan M

@Eric I answered 2 for +19 before I added it to ignored. I wasn't hiding the ignored tags, so I still read the titles on the main page, but I don't click them unless I can answer them.

Eric

Ah. I just eliminate the middleman and don't ignore tags, lol.

Logan M

I think I'm going to switch to hiding the ignored tags, since I rarely want to do anything in them. It was nice to be able to upvote new users in Dragon Ball or my other ignored tags, but we have enough people to do that anyway.

Eric

@LoganM I'll gladly throw an upvote into the ring for you. :)

Logan M

17:22

Okay, the homepage is pretty barren without any of my ignored tags. I'm switching back to graying them out but keeping them on the page.

Eric

What tags are you ignoring?

Logan M

@Eric naruto, bleach, fairy-tail, dragon-ball, dragon-ball-gt, fullmetal-alchemist, reborn

Eric

@LoganM Interesting choices. All the popular ones? lol

Mysticial

@Eric You mean all the non-typeB/fansub ones. :)

Eric

Ohhhh. :P

Mysticial

17:27

With the exception of maybe FMA.

Eric

Aw, crap. I forgot to bring up tags at the chat-cast.

I knew I was forgetting something.

Logan M

@Eric I kept one-piece.

Ignored tags are things that I don't know much about, or don't think I can answer well. I know quite a bit about One Piece, so that one isn't ignored. But FMA is ignored because my knowledge about it is pretty poor.

Eric

@LoganM Ah. I just favorite tags where I'd probably know the answer, and don't ignore any. I never know when something's going to come along. (Like the LTS or Domo-kun questions.)

Mysticial

18:33

lol, the kinds of flags we see here on the main SE network are interesting...

Logan M

18:51

@Mysticial What do you mean? What kind of flags does SO have?

Mysticial

The flags on SO are mostly trolls and link-dumps.

The flags here are mostly from the religious sites.

We just had what appeared to be a racist remark coming from Mi Yodeya.

But I can't properly judge it since I'm not familiar with the religion to know the terminology.

jkerian

We have a few native speakers on JLU... one of whom is not that good at explaining things in English. When they're unable, sometimes they'll answer the question in a comment in Japanese. Invariably, I get to reject someone's flag of these comments as "too chatty"

Logan M

@Mysticial You're on Mi Yodeya?

Mysticial

@LoganM No, but I can see the normal chat-flags network wide.

Except for meta.SO since I don't have 10k there.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial Link?

Logan M

18:55

How does that work? Having a certain amount of rep on SO lets you see chat flags from all sites?

Madara Uchiha

I'm a bit more familiar than you (and a mod)

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha It's gone now, lemme check my page history.

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM Yes.

Krazer

@LoganM users with 10k+ global rep on SE can see flags

Mysticial

in Discussion about Islam's view of Judaism and assorted extended discussions, 32 mins ago, by Ali

@DhoweedYaAgov please dont blame me it is this "Halachic Jew" which creates this problems

Krazer

18:56

they can vote on them but I don't think it's as binding as if you were a mod

Logan M

@Krazer I see (well, technically I don't, but w/e).

Mysticial

That said, I don't know if it actually is racist and offense. It's not my area.

Krazer

@Mysticial I wouldn't say it's offensive or racist, but it is a bit rude

Mysticial

ah ok

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