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12:00 AM
A disturbing trend is emerging from the political left: When their candidates lose elections, rather than accept lawful defeat, they denounce the election itself. https://bit.ly/2BzCaVI
12:15 AM
@Unionhawk uhhhhhh wut
@Unionhawk josh was indeed found in contempt, but was only sentenced to time served (about 5 hours). Commonwealth v Fields is fully in the jury's hands now
(the judge could have given josh up to 10 days without trial)
Deliberations start tomorrow morning
12:41 AM
City of Oakland backed down from evicting the Houses and Dignity Village yesterday morning after dozens showed up to line the fence surrounding encampment, but today stormed the camp with 20 police at 1:15pm. One resident handcuffed for refusing to leave.
thread, god fucking dammit
1:30 AM
Thankful to all of the servicemen and servicewomen who have honored and watched over their former Commander-in-Chief this week.
I get it but I still maintain that the idea of a funeral train is a little odd
"Oh look at that interestingly painted train and oh it's a dead president"
Did you wish UN assembly sessions were more like a Fox News report hour?
Wish no more!
BREAKING: Former Fox News host Heather Nauert has been picked to replace outgoing U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley. http://huffp.st/HwpAHte
1:46 AM
@TimStone u wot m8
@GodEmperorDune noted left or liberal organization squints heritage foundation
@Unionhawk i mean they did invent obamacare so...
2:04 AM
@GodEmperorDune yeah exactly
BREAKING: We filed a FOIA after the @FTC confirmed a lawyer who represented Facebook and Equifax to head the bureau investigating those very companies for wrongdoing against consumers. Turns out he’s got more conflicts. 120 of them, to be exact:
Oh, are you not supposed to have 120 conflicts of interest? Are we not going for the high score anymore?
The New Green Deal is "one of the most interesting—and strategic—left-wing policy interventions from the Democratic Party in years." But how much would it cost? http://bit.ly/2BVhdVB
@TimStone jared: hold my beer i need to revise my security clearance forms again
Yeah we need to reorient our entire economic system to have a hope of being alive past 2030, but what will that cost the shareholders
2:19 AM
@Unionhawk won't someone please think of the profits?
ecosocialism or ecofascism
@TimStone It's too late anyway. Trump has the best score. The highest score. Everybody says so
2:39 AM
City brings in a second garbage truck, 110% committed to fully destroying the village today, crushing any sense of autonomy unhoused folks might want to claim for themselves by creating a safe community.
oakland is actively destroying people's homes.
currently a standoff with a group of residents who locked themselves in
this country is consistently and needlessly cruel
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4:09 AM
4:56 AM
1. Today I did the annual story on holiday decorations at the Governor's residence. I've done it every year, for years. A very light but very fun story. Every year my reporting partner was Wendi Winters. This year, it was Selene. Wendi was murdered in June. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1070877666654519297
fwiw the call reportedly came before the Trump tweet but it's not as though it's the first
5:15 AM
I have made the choice to step down from hosting this year's Oscar's....this is because I do not want to be a distraction on a night that should be celebrated by so many amazing talented artists. I sincerely apologize to the LGBTQ community for my insensitive words from my past.
7 hours later…
12:21 PM
#BDS WIN! NYU’s student government just passed a resolution that would have NYU divest from companies associated with Israel. Congrats to @NYUSJP and @nyujvp on this win for freedom, justice, and equality! https://nyunews.com/2018/12/06/student-senators-pass-bds-resolution-after-shouts-screams-and-snaps/
12:35 PM
@TimStone I am a terrible person because I know that the person watching is to make sure no one desecrated the body but my first thought is always "they're on zombie duty"
1:04 PM
@TimStone Just checked out that there Google, and wow, he said some pretty shitty stuff back in the day.
1:36 PM
@Ash lmao, but also why not both?
scoop with @alanblinder: North Carolina Republican Owes $34,310 for Disputed Absentee Ballot and Turnout Work, Records Show https://nyti.ms/2zGmNcX
@TimStone that famous video of a scottish woman on thatcher's funeral
Love too do election fraud but also not pay for election fraud
We're changing our rating on this race to Lean Prison. https://twitter.com/JoeBrunoWSOC9/status/1070540169047085056
It has been incorrectly reported that Rudy Giuliani and others will not be doing a counter to the Mueller Report. That is Fake News. Already 87 pages done, but obviously cannot complete until we see the final Witch Hunt Report.
Is it just 87 pages of "Very legal & very cool?", I don't understand
#BREAKING: Economy adds 155K jobs in November, unemployment holds at 3.7 percent http://hill.cm/mJVK3Ce
thank you to Economy for hiring 155k people creating 155k jobs
1:47 PM
Below estimates, also very interested in how many are seasonal since, you know, tis the season
> The economy has added jobs for 98 straight months, beginning in October 2010 under former President Obama. It is the longest streak of monthly jobs growth on record.
Our benevolent economy
.⁦@kaitlancollins⁩ : White House chief of staff John Kelly expected to resign soon - CNNPolitics https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/john-kelly-chief-of-staff-donald-trump/index.html
I love how this little fact is constantly overlooked by trump and his supporters
This job growth started well before Trump took office
Oh look another month another John Kelly will resign rumour
@TimStone again?
1:52 PM
@Wipqozn Yeah but it hadn't solved all the problems yet so obviously Obama did a bad job
Everyone knows when a hole is dug you just walk straight out of it
@MadScientist Yeah kind of feel like we should stop listening to whichever anonymous source claims this repeatedly yet here we are again
My favorite version of this rumor is that Trump did actually fire Kelly, but he simply stayed and ignored that
It wouldn't even be that implausible at this point and I hate it
Just have to wait until he gets angry about something else and then he just forgets
In rare remarks, Tillerson calls Trump “pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing rpts”—adds, “So often... I would have to say to him, Mr President I understand what you want to do but you can't do it that way. It violates the law.” https://m.chron.com/business/article/Rex-Tillerson-13448868.php
the jury is deliberating today in commonwealth v fields. the jury has 10 charges to decide. 1 of first degree murder (they can instead choose second degree or involuntary manslaughter), 5 of aggravated malicious wounding (they can choose malicious wounding or unlawful wounding instead), 3 of malicious wounding (they can choose unlawful wounding instead), and 1 of failing to stop at the scene of an accident resulting in a death.
WATCH| Chinese expert @mikepillsbury says House of Cards' popularity in China, "feeds the conspiratorial thinking…the Chinese enjoy the show but they also think this really is how things work in America" https://t.co/MWmDYfAsne
Good, good, they think we're competent
@TimStone nah you just keep digging
2:07 PM
@Wipqozn almost ten years ago
"[the defense in closing] also argued that if he had intended to do anything wrong, he wouldn't have kept his cell phone with him. That he was aware that his phone could track his movements"
Okay I'm sorry for the content but I don't even know what to do with any part of this story involving an Amazon purchase which unwittingly came with a form of sex-doll
@Unionhawk Ahh, the incompetent Nazi defense
Like are they setting up for an incompetent defense appeal or
Wait, I'm being told that is not actually a defense of anything
> Helen has now devised a plan to get the sheep back without any awkward explanation by telling Alfie the 'Elf of the Shelf' took it
2:24 PM
@BunsGlazing Yeah it's a while ago now, so if he's changed and owned up to it then good for him. Although it looks like originally he had no intention of owning up to it at all.
@TimStone I'm not entirely sure this is wholly appropriate for this chat
Like, sure, it's funny, but I also am seriously biting my tongue here because the responses I can think of are all also inappropriate
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Barr nominated to be US attorney general - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46487122
3:30 PM
3:40 PM
Wow. The DoD OIG determined that the Air Force had four opportunities to submit Devin Kelley’s fingerprints to the FBI, but did not. http://www.dodig.mil/reports.html/Article/1707300/report-of-investigation-into-the-united-states-air-forces-failure-to-submit-dev/#.XAqUBF_5Ofl.twitter
(the Sutherland Springs shooter, if the name doesn't immediately come to mind)
3:56 PM
@Unionhawk I know it's just legal stuff but still, murder and then also accident
Obviously what they really mean is vehicular collision rather than anything about intention
@TimStone Yeah but this is the NYT so tomorrow, the op-eds will read "whomst amongst us hasn't failed to report a possible mass-murderer to the authorities on four separate occasions?"
Update: Trump's nominee to become Attorney General, William Barr, sits on the WarnerMedia board, and had a bizarre dispute with the DOJ's antitrust chief, Makan Delrahim, about a meeting last year on the AT&T merger. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/12/07/trumps-likely-pick-attorney-general-said-justice-departments-antitrust-chief-gave-inaccurate-account-meeting-with-time-warner/?utm_term=.23006c0a67dd
lol, amazing
@Yuuki Anyone who uses the term "both sides" with regards to climate science is being intellectually dishonest at best, because the idea that both sides are equal is the biggest false equivalence I've ever seen.
no, see, you got to see the big picture
on one hand, we're going to see catastrophic ecological effects impacting crop harvests, habitable land area, etc
but on the other hand, the drilling season in the arctic is getting longer, making it cheaper for oil and gas companies to drill
as they predicted in like the 80s
so it is impossible to say if it is bad or not
4:14 PM
> "I want to thank @VP Mike Pence, a tremendous supporter of yours," @realDonaldTrump tells a group of Jews at a Hannukah party. "They go there and they love your country."
pulls entire stop sign out of pocket Alright buddy we gotta put a hold on this play because of the multitude of things wrong about it
IBM selling Lotus Notes/Domino business to HCL for $1.8B https://tcrn.ch/2QgaqP4 by @ron_miller
I'm sorry they sold what for how much now?
Oh wow this was a key part of Delaware history I was missing
On this day in 1787, Delaware became the first state to ratify the Federal Constitution at the Golden Fleece Tavern in Dover, DE. Happy #DelawareDay from First State Heritage Park. http://bit.ly/2AVRDOu
Not only were we the first state we did it while drunk, in the truest American fashion
Sources tell me the FBI is working with SBI on possible election fraud in Bladen & Robeson Counties surrounding absentee ballots. I'm told a federal case would be handled in the Middle District in Greensboro. @wsoctv #NC09 #ncpol
Now a federal investigation too!
@TimStone Which part, that Delaware ratified the Constitution first or that it was done in a tavern?
That it was done in a tavern, we make a big point of constantly pointing out the first part because we don't have a lot else going on besides tax-free shopping
@puzzlepiece87 Little disturbing how the article doesn't really touch on how Orwellian that is but then again, SCMP is one of the state newspapers, right?
The tone is more "look at this cool new technology".
@Yuuki You probably already know this but SCMP has a reputation of being a little more freelancing but yes still quite sensitive to Chinese control.
And again, you already know this, but my impression compared to state media was that independence shining through.
5:01 PM
@Unionhawk Thank you for helping me see the light @CapitalistHawk
Not only do you have reporting on a project sensitive enough that the researcher doesn't want to be named, but you have several explicit mentions of surveillance, and none of the usual bombast of "maintaining the security of citizens and the glory of China" that I get from Xinhua and other Beijing papers.
I suppose the state media would've probably just not released that article at all.
@Yuuki You've flown out of Beijing and read the papers before, right?
@Yuuki Exactly, in my opinion.
@puzzlepiece87 I am not really a newspaper person.
@Yuuki I'm a voracious reader in general but especially in China when I can't take my phone and computer with me. It's newspapers or books.
> One experiment in northern China’s Inner Mongolia involved flying the birds over a flock of sheep – animals that are well known for their keen sense of hearing and ability to be easily spooked. The flock paid no attention whatsoever to the drone flying above, the person said.
> they also produce very little noise, making them very hard to detect from the ground, and are so lifelike that actual birds often fly alongside them.
@Yuuki whew nice deep reference there, Rock_clapping.gif for you
5:17 PM
Unrelated, but I found a Reddit comment that kinda struck me.
> It's always agenda pushing when it doesn't agree with their agenda. And it's always bringing politics into art when it isn't their politics.

These people don't understand that art is inherently political. Hell, if you are someone who isn't the norm, existence itself is sometimes "political".
Particularly that last bit.
@Yuuki On God that last bit so much
Just being able to dismiss civil rights issues as 'politics' is just the height of privilege
Right now Freshman members of Congress are at a “Bipartisan” orientation w/ briefings on issues. Invited panelists offer insights to inform new Congressmembers‘ views as they prepare to legislate. # of Corporate CEOs we’ve listened to here: 4 # of Labor leaders: 0
@Unionhawk but seriously, I'm so jealous of you for her
@Yuuki So. Much. This.
5:37 PM
@Unionhawk Man, we need more like her
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6:47 PM
@MadScientist hue
@TimStone good thing there are those extra 18 pages or i would be forced to reply "nice"
@TimStone one of the seasons had the main character double crossing a chinese national, i wonder how that played over there
Congresswoman @JackieSpeier just told CNN’s @brikeilarcnn that she believes Don Jr. lied to Congress on two occasions.
@TimStone elf on the shelf needs to go in the sea
@TimStone only 2?
@Unionhawk lol, rekt
I mean saying he actively lied is pretty substantial so two is a nice starting point
@GodEmperorDune lol did you read what that was in reference to? The Elf on the Shelf can have it but uhhh
@Yuuki sorry, eh
@TimStone yes i did, was gonna quote that specific sentence but you got there first
It was Quite a Ride
6:52 PM
phrasing lol
Marlboro maker dives into the cannabis market with a $2.4 billion buy-in. http://apne.ws/juvkIQX
@TimStone how... how is lotus notes 1) still around and 2) worth almost $2 BILLION?
@TimStone flipped the digits there AP
Right? Marlboro out here only putting $2.4B into weed, Lotus Notes must be a hell of a drug
@TimStone (the company at hand is Philip Morris USA (or international?) (I'm sure there's some exceedingly dumb reason they have 2 companies))
@Yuuki hell yeah
@Unionhawk yay oc
6:56 PM
@Unionhawk I did not know Altria owned Kraft and Nabisco
Oh, it was spun off
@Unionhawk tax dodging and/or a lawsuit thing, if i had to guess
this is too many companies
is altria the philip morris Alphabet
We need to put a stop to companies until we figure this out
why did tobacco Alphabet own Kraft at any point
at least we have some good news
> 1 Bitcoin equals
3,239.48 United States Dollar
let's go
@TimStone Oh, duh, obviously because I knew Mondelēz owned Nabisco
6:58 PM
@Unionhawk nicotine in the cheese, obvi
down 200ish on the day
@Unionhawk hue at the bitcoin bros
But Mondelēz is a spin-off of Kraft Foods Inc
@GodEmperorDune remember when the worst gamer on the internet was like "bitcoin will never go down again", at its peak
then it went down from 18k to 3k and he got owned by sonicfox
Which was separated into the Mondelēz (snack) portion and Kraft Heinz (grocery) portion
7:00 PM
the details of said own are too graphic for this chat
rubs temples That makes my head hurt
Companies, why are they?
> In 1980, Kraft merged with Dart Industries—makers of the Duracell brand of batteries, Tupperware brand of plastic containers, West Bend brand of home appliances, Wilsonart brand of plastics and Thatcher glass—to form Dart & Kraft
gestures wildly towards none of that making sense
Conglomerates, man.
They're still a big thing in the East.
Store my leftover Kraft Macaroni & AAA Batteries in my Tupperware while I smoke a Philip Morris cigarette
West Bend makes that damn toaster that also cooks eggs for no reason
See making global changes aren't that hard because everything is actually just one company
what if one big company but owned by the people
@Unionhawk note to self, always buy when antman says to sell and vice-versa
7:04 PM
no, never buy
Other note to self though just don't have anything to do with antman
@TimStone I've just assumed that everything is, at teh end of the day, owned by one person
hodl gang tho
buying contributes to global climate catastrophe
It's true Bitcoin is bad
7:05 PM
@Ash unfortunately that person is @Wipqozn
@Ash They should buy my company so I can cash out
@TimStone It was extremely cool to watch warehouses in china get shut down and destroyed after the crash
let's go
take your miners offline
then recycle the parts
because those cards have been pushed to limits for a while and are probably no good anymore
A GTX 1080 in every home and a buttcoin sticker on ever car which you are also now not allowed to drive
(don't buy a bitcoin-used graphics card it'll die soon)
@TimStone , but we have public transportation now though
so it's fine
public transit to your job at the breaking asphalt factory
or something
ecosocialism is when you demolish roads I think
@Unionhawk degrowth is a movement actually
7:13 PM
it's at minimum an Aesthetic of sorts
everyone doing work that is decidedly necessary for continued survival
let's go
from the ashes of the old baby
Nov 26 at 20:35, by Unionhawk
pounding on table 3000! 3000! 3000! 3000!
@Unionhawk doing work without trashing the planet tho
@puzzlepiece87 this is a powerful piece
> Most black people have been told practically since the womb that they must be twice as good to get half as much as anybody white. They have also been conditioned to believe that maintaining the moral high ground and being a bigger person is the only way to defeat racism. That often means suppressing natural human emotions that could communicate racism’s devastating impact.
@GodEmperorDune Glad you like it. I continue to be glad Jemele Hill is at The Atlantic.
And she's speaking here about hypothetically going low with racists, but she did a great job going high with John Skipper per her previous article.
Not easy to forgive the guy who didn't have your back and chalk it up to just business.
:clap: fire :clap: jesse :clap: singal :clap: and :clap: pay :clap: jemele :clap: hill :clap: the :clap: difference :clap:
Different article about St. Louis suburb restaurant owners crying crocodile tears about the fact that they have to pay people more than $9 an hour to find enough workers:
> After closing the Greek Kitchen in Ellisville, co-owner Joe Kandel ran a test ad seeking servers on Indeed.com and Craigslist for a new restaurant in Kirkwood, which happens to be significantly closer to the city and its labor pool. The response would determine whether he and Nicholas would actually reopen in the mid-county suburb.
Doing job apps is miserable enough without people putting up positions that don't exist, grrr.
> But Walsh says Parkway South High School already asked him to participate in a job fair for students. The restaurant made toasted ravioli and gooey butter cake, he says, "in the hope that some of the kids at the school would say, 'Hey, we want to come there and work for you."

"Not one person came to the restaurant," he says.

The meeting to find solutions quickly devolves into a conversation about how things aren't the way they used to be.

"The kids today, there is no need to have a job because mom and dad take care of them," says Walsh. He turns to a representative from the Philly Pret
7:26 PM
@puzzlepiece87 HAhaha what
Protip: maybe if your customers drive Maseratis they can afford to eat at your restaurant when you pay people enough to actually work there
@puzzlepiece87 ah yes, blame the next generation for situations you caused. way to boomer
@TimStone Ha, my parents had one of those
> Niblett says, "There's a place for minimum-wage jobs if you are first starting off in the workforce."
Maybe look at the stats for who actually works minimum wage jobs, clown friend.
@puzzlepiece87 this is a lie, minimum wage is not for first starting off
7:28 PM
> "I just took over in March, and I have been fighting the battles to pay more, and I've won the battles, but it takes emails and talking to the boss ... unfortunately, I think corporate America makes it a little difficult to do the right thing,"
> That doesn't mean he supported Proposition B, the statewide ballot measure to increase Missouri's minimum wage over time to $12 an hour.
I don't know, maybe stop pretending like things are so difficult when you can just vote one time for a thing rather than doing email battles with your boss or some garbage
Like @Unionhawk says, the struggle is real according to people who are definitely not my mortal enemies
Noted fellow strivers checks notes people who somehow can't make it work in Maserati land
😢 how will my business survive without wage theft
Mainstream media once again uses a 7th Heaven picture to describe a white man who killed his entire family. https://twitter.com/abc/status/1070938371269255170
wont somebodyt hink of the small business owners
More making the easy solution hard:
> Sam Garanzini, senior vice president of Pasta House, says he is considering offering bus passes to employees making the commute from the city to its locations in west county.
> "It's not a policy that I'm going to wave in front of everybody because the next thing you know you'll have somebody taking a bus two blocks to get to work just so they can have a bus pass in their pocket."
No, instead we should definitely do this:
> "We have a guy who it takes two and a half hours, one way," Tim Walsh tells people at the chamber of commerce forum. Walsh is managing officer of the Des Peres restaurant, which focuses on classic St. Louis dishes. "When he's working nights and I'm there doing whatever, I offer to take him home ... It's out of the way but it saves him two and a half hours of riding the bus, and hopefully it gets to where he realizes we're trying to do something to help him stay at the restaurant."
raffi is now antifa
7:40 PM
2 days ago, by Unionhawk
fully fund public transit and make fares $0 imo
Children's singer Raffi on criticizing Trump: "You have to fight fascism with everything you’ve got" http://hill.cm/5tT9IHu
French high school students today, staging a mass sit-down protest against the failed attempt of the police to bully them into silence.
@GodEmperorDune It's still extra messed up and fitting the 7th Heaven dad was a child abuser
@TimStone yeaaaaaaaah i didn't even think of that
7:47 PM
more like sargone lmao
@Unionhawk i guess they listened to that person who said "@patreon here are the 9000 white supremacists on your site"
@Unionhawk lol, good twete
@Unionhawk got who?
@TimStone I didn't know that but I am less surprised than I though I'd be
@Ash sargon of akkad is a white supremacist propagandist that was raising money through patreon. his account just got nuked
@GodEmperorDune That's incredibly amusing because the Akkadians came from Mesopotamia.
Y'know, the place where the white people aren't?
7:51 PM
@Yuuki all these people like to whitewash every damn thing
@Ash Yeaaaah :/
@GodEmperorDune Glad it got nuked.
BTW, if you're so inclined, Texas State Senator José R. Rodríguez has gotten approval to provide soccer balls to detained children, which obviously we should just stop detaining them but short of invading the facility that is unlikely to happen before Christmas so :/
8:13 PM
I’m going to renew my subscription to the Washington Post just for this.
cc @ash and @puzzlepiece87 on fun news
> The “most plausible” theory, he said, is that monk seal teenagers aren’t all that different from their human counterparts. Monk seals “seem naturally attracted to getting into troublesome situations,” Littnan said.
I have noticed that Junior here has a habit of posting nonsense about me whenever the Mueller investigation heats up. Please, keep it coming Jr - it’s definitely a “very, very large brain” idea to troll a member of a body that will have subpoena power in a month. Have fun! https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1071035124412760064
I'm going to just start starting explanations of my bullshit with "as you all know, I was very publicly involved in the demotion of pluto"
@GodEmperorDune Those poor eels.
> Having had more than a year to listen and learn and adjust to the new information, most of the men Bloomberg spoke with have looked around, searched their souls, and come to a tidy conclusion: “Avoid women at all cost.”
Oh I guess he wasn't too happy about Tillerson's comments
8:23 PM
this shit makes my blood boil
Mike Pompeo is doing a great job, I am very proud of him. His predecessor, Rex Tillerson, didn’t have the mental capacity needed. He was dumb as a rock and I couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. He was lazy as hell. Now it is a whole new ballgame, great spirit at State!
@GodEmperorDune yeah this is why Ninja didn't appear on stage with miss piggy as originally scheduled
he's got conditions
@TimStone whew
friendly reminder that jared "nepotism" kushner has been described as "stone cold stupid"
many people are saying this
but really tillerson was foolish to give up his exxon gig to do secretary of state
8:26 PM
he's set for life and now at least he doesn't count as a name or address associated with active destruction of the earth
WHEEEEEEN THEEEEE NOSE OF A SEAL HAS BEEN STUFFED WITH AN EEL THAT'S A MORAY https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1070464126412046337
Yeah but he also got fired on the toilet
@TimStone it's better than being fired into or out of a toilet
@Unionhawk Plus, some people are just going to give him a pass for stupid reasons like "he talked bad about the Trump administration".
As if that absolves him of anything.
he called the president stupid one time
u gotta respect a guy who says it like it is
8:31 PM
@Unionhawk better than the game of thrones dude on the toilet
@Unionhawk #SilverLining
@Yuuki #gofundme #resistance
@GodEmperorDune @Unionhawk Also better than Jurassic Park
broke: donating to some republican cop
@puzzlepiece87 perhaps even better than in one of the lethal weapon movies
8:34 PM
a few hundred dollars of every dollar goes to purchasing and forgiving outstanding medical debt
@Unionhawk is that the org that john oliver did a thing with?
similar function anyway
They are verified on gofundme too, which means you too can help forgive thousands of dollars in medical debt
Wow! A Republican journalist calling me the B-word as he deliberately misinterprets my statement. Awesome job. How many female leaders have you covered in your career? I’m sure your coverage was very fair and not subconsciously biased at all. https://twitter.com/freedom_moates/status/1071136804789727232
really cool to see the benghazi crowd fainting at this idea lol
8:52 PM
For @motherboard, I reported on the incredible people fighting against a $12.7 billion dollar dam built on quick clay that could result in mass drowning and cultural genocide for Inuit people living downstream. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5zbpx/how-activists-are-resisting-a-megadam-that-threatens-cultural-genocide?utm_campaign=sharebutton
canada, u up, eh?
@GodEmperorDune this is ridiculous, I love it. The whole article was great.
A blast of 94,100 new jobs last month has knocked the country’s unemployment rate down to 5.6 per cent — its lowest level since Statistics Canada started measuring comparable data more than 40 years ago. globalnews.ca/news/4739555/…
@GodEmperorDune >If methylmercury levels rise too high, the energy company said it will issue a warning to residents living in nearby communities.
Oh boy, warnings.
@Yuuki yepppppppppp
apparently quick clay is a substance that loses rigidity when it comes into contact with fresh water, so what could go wrong with building a freshwater dam on top of it?
@Yuuki methyl mercury is quite nasty
Karen Wetterhahn (October 16, 1948 – June 8, 1997) was an American professor of chemistry at Dartmouth College, New Hampshire, who specialized in toxic metal exposure. She died of mercury poisoning at the age of 48 due to accidental exposure to the organic mercury compound dimethylmercury (Hg(CH3)2). Protective gloves in use at the time of the incident provided insufficient protection, and exposure to only a few drops of the chemical absorbed through the gloves proved to be fatal after less than a year. == Career == Wetterhahn was born in Plattsburgh, New York, and had degrees from St. Lawrence...
9:05 PM
@MadScientist :/
For anyone interested in just how dangerous it is
Though to be fair, the case I linked above is dimethylmercury, which is even more dangerous
It's not immediately clear to me where the methylmercury is coming from, or if there's just a high concentration of mercury already present in the soil and surrounding vegetation that will be converted during the flooding
I know that fish tend to accumulate methylmercury, and that is one source of mercury for humans that eat the fish. Not sure how that works in this particular case
@GodEmperorDune Yeah that's the main thing that has me really, really confused. I don't understand why you'd build a dam at such a location. Even setting aside any environmental and social concerns, it just seems like a risky investment.
@Wipqozn i don't either, it seems like a terrible idea that should have been stopped already
9:16 PM
Nov 26 at 18:51, by Unionhawk
@puzzlepiece87 a dam that collapses actually loses shareholder value though
not to mention all the death
plus this isn't the US where the company can laugh all the way to the bank
@GodEmperorDune Thank goodness for that
Did you see how much the estimated cost has ballooned over time?
Virginia high school teacher fired for refusing to use transgender student's new pronouns: richmond.com/news/virginia/…
Maybe it's just a sunk cost fallacy where they don't want to lose what they've already put in or something?
@Wipqozn Man, what a stupid thing to get fired over
9:20 PM
> Vlaming agreed to use the student’s new, male name. But he tried to avoid using any pronouns — he or him, and she or her — when referring to the student. The student said that made him feel uncomfortable and singled out.

> Administrators sided with the boy, telling Vlaming he could not treat his transgender pupil differently than he treats others.
@puzzlepiece87 That's what I'm thinking
I mean, why? What does it cost you to use a different word?
@GodEmperorDune Besides, the company itself isn't paying for the construction.
> its price tag has climbed to $12.7 billion with the bill going to a province of just 530,000 people.
> Muskrat Falls public inquiry over cost overruns begins
> The independent inquiry, led by provincial Supreme Court Justice Richard LeBlanc, will examine how the project was approved and executed, and why it was exempt from oversight from the Public Utilities Board.
@SaintWacko IT costs him his right to be a bigot
Exempt from oversight always leads to good things. I wonder what board member of the company is related to what government official.
> Speaking in his own defense, Vlaming said he loves and respects all his students and had tried to reach a solution based on “mutual tolerance.” That effort was rejected, he said, putting him at risk of losing his job for having views held by “most of the world for most of human history.”
Needing to tolerate to intolerance makes no sense at all, and is the exact opposite of what a tolerant society should strive to achieve. So, take your "mutal tolerance" and go live in Atlanstic.
9:24 PM
@Wipqozn "I am willing to tolerate your first name so you should tolerate my intolerance of everything else about you."
Second, "most of the world for most of human history" also thought slavery was totally a-okay, so take that nonsense argument and make sure not to overpay on your new 1-bedroom unit in Atlantis.
> To highlight the pitfalls of strict rules against “misgendering,” Vlaming and his lawyer pointed out that [Principal] Hochman used the wrong pronoun for the student during his testimony.
Yeah accidentally misgendering someone and intentionally misgendering someone is completely different, so nice try with that.
School isn't firing you because you used the wrong pronoun accidentally or just took some time to adjust or anything, but because you made a very deliberate choice to not recognize the childs gender, and treated them differently than other students because they were gender identity.
you know how the saying goes
it costs $0 to not be like this
that was the kitty
She had her tail on the keyboard
She's quite the rascal
@Unionhawk good saying
@Wipqozn Pics (of the kitty) or it didn't happen
@puzzlepiece87 Done, but posted it in the bridge
9:42 PM
@Wipqozn Which imagehost?
@puzzlepiece87 For the most part that's what it seems. To get the full picture it helps to know that the province has a generation facility upstream, and that the province is also largely surrounded by Quebec. The upstream facility is a joint project with Hydro-Quebec, who is royally screwing them on rates for the next few decades, so the downstream facilities with underwater transmission lines across the Gulf of St. Lawrence to @Wipqozn and beyond were an attractive prospect
Also the new power company executive admits openly his predecessors unwittingly or otherwise misrepresented the costs, so I guess they weren't interested in admitting that at the time
@TimStone Thanks for this great context!
shakes fist QUEBEC
@TimStone Also worth noting that Newfoundland currently has the highest unemployment rate of all Canadian provinces and territories too, and by a wide margin too. It's at 15%, nunvaut (way up north) is second with with 13% and then the third highest is PEI with 9%. And as posted above, Canada wide unemployeement is 5%, so their unemployment rate is a staggering 300% above the rest of the country.
aka so the prospect of making jobs would also be a selling point
We have to assume no one wanted to look @Wipqozn's cat in the face and tell it it wasn't getting that sweet, sweet power
9:50 PM
@TimStone MAkes sense
@puzzlepiece87 stack.imgur, but I posted it in the bridge to avoid derailing this chat too much.
@Wipqozn making jobs by screwing over the future, wtg
Local environmental concerns aside obviously hydro seems attractive for its Not Fossil Fuel quality but the demand for their power export has apparently not played out quite as expected so just an all around failed gamble here
@GodEmperorDune You're thinking too long term. Gotta look at that short term gain.
There's a dilbert clip for this...
It is being reported that Leakin' James Comey was told by Department of Justice attorneys not to answer the most important questions. Total bias and corruption at the highest levels of previous Administration. Force him to answer the questions under oath!
Anyone have an idea what this is about? Something in his testimony today, probably, but what?
@Wipqozn Yup, imgur is blocked at work. I try to avoid Bridge at work but was willing to do it for cat pictures if I'd be able to see the cat pictures once I got there. I'll look later at home.
9:56 PM
BREAKING: Federal prosecutors recommend "substantial term of imprisonment" for former Trump attorney Michael Cohen. https://abcn.ws/2EiJtnr
This is new. Federal prosecutors have said for the first time in a court filing that Cohen committed campaign finance crimes "in coordination with and at the direction of" President Trump.
@MadScientist By Department of Justice attorneys? As in the Trump administration Department of Justice?
2 days ago, by GodEmperorDune
NEW: Trump has told aides he doesn’t care about the national debt in part because when it becomes truly untenable he will be out of office. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up Via @swin24 and @lachlan
@Yuuki Probably, but with Trump you can never be sure that words have meaning
lol Tim Mak makes a cameo in the documents in reference to that time Cohen threatened him over a story
9:59 PM
@GodEmperorDune I doubt Tim has any places left where you can inject that stuff
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