This Is Fine

12:20 AM

@TimStone I dunno I think current affairs take here that it's the option between placating a murderer and hoping a kidnapper is merciful is compelling here, and ultimately their goal is mainly to circumvent certain rules about the detention of children with mothers anyway

Memor-X

12:58 AM

JUST IN: Trump orders more tariffs on China after China retaliates with its own tariffs http://hill.cm/ZlFvtM3

Tweeted by thehill on June 19, 2018 at 12:10 AM

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X trade wars are so easy to win

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune yeh, just keep hitting dat tariff button until the other side submits

and prey their big red tariff button isn't bigger

*mental image of Xi Jinping yawning as he jumps on his button in response*

Tim Stone

1:44 AM

Tesla Model 3 production has been sabotaged, according to CBNC http://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/06/tesla-model-3-production-has-been-sabotaged-according-to-cnc/ by @drgitlin

Tweeted by arstechnica on June 18, 2018 at 11:39 PM

In which Elon Musk suggests Big Oil might have purposefully installed a sabateur who was also just someone mad about not being promoted

Politico has a stunning sentence about the White House chief of staff talking about impeachment: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/nielsen-trump-border-children-family-separation-653265

Tweeted by StevenTDennis on June 19, 2018 at 1:43 AM

Tim Stone

2:12 AM

@StevenTDennis FWIW, it wasn’t a joke, according to my source, who said his attitude is let the shit hit the fan, make Corey chief of staff, instruct Cabinet secretaries to do things that are illegal — so be it.

Tweeted by elianayjohnson on June 19, 2018 at 2:01 AM in reply to StevenTDennis

Very healthy

Tim Stone

2:52 AM

So uh, that Nielsen presser was horrible but Sessions says to hold his beer:

Sessions says this is not like Nazi Germany "because in Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country!"

Tweeted by briantashman on June 19, 2018 at 2:29 AM in reply to briantashman

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone wut

are they trying to self goodwin or ...?

Tim Stone

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

quartata

hAVe We DoNE thiS yEt

Laura Ingraham just said that the detention centers for children are "basically summer camps"

Tweeted by briantashman on June 19, 2018 at 2:05 AM

Tim Stone

I mean it's earlier on in that thread but otherwise no

quartata

auschwitz was basically an amusment park.exe

GodEmperorDune

2:55 AM

i saw tucker's take and it was similarly awful

fox news going all in on ripping families apart

quartata

@TimStone sorry, I didn't see the full thread, only saw this one because @fart retweeted it

which says a lot

that's how you know shit is real

@GodEmperorDune lmfao this one? twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1008873030066626561

(cw: huge brains in replies)

GodEmperorDune

@quartata nope, it was a quote from the show, something about "don't let them tell you it's about the children, cause it's not"

also ann coulter has some bullshit about crisis actors

Tim Stone

Jr liked the Breitbart tweet about that

GodEmperorDune

love to large adult son

Memor-X

@quartata [INSERT SOUTH PARK MOVIE MARCH OF WAR VIDEO]

GodEmperorDune

3:03 AM

Tucker Carlson makes it open and explicit: this is about not wanting brown people in your neighborhood, your school. Open white nationalism, especially in the last minute. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-rips-trump-critics-for-preening-over-border-policy-their-goal-is-to-change-your-country-forever/ via @mediaite

Tweeted by adamdavidson on June 19, 2018 at 1:31 AM

Memor-X

> For security measures, our great American government is rounding up all citizens that have any Canadian blood, and putting them into camps [Canadians are shown being rounded up and put into caged trucks. The trucks are shown entering some camps].

All Canadian-American citizens are to report to one of these death camps right away. Did I say death camps? I meant happy camps, where you will eat the finest meals, have access to fabulous doctors [a dentist pulls out a tooth], and be able to exercise regularly [digging, that is].

minus the doctors and exercise

i'm sure being a forma wallmart it'll have food

Unionhawk

4:09 AM

> All three of these books document that employer opposition in those days included physical attacks against workers, and even the strategic use of murder, which ought to help put today's employer offensives in perspective.

It's true

at least we don't have that these days lol

LMFAO

> Stepah-Norris and Zeitlin devote a chapter to Lewis's dealings with the left: He would hire organizers out of the Communist Party, then purge them once they'd won the campaign. The chapter is titled for Lewis's famous quip about this tactic: "Who gets the bird, the hunter or the dog?" The authors provide a small mountain of evidence that the unions led by the leftist factions were not only the most effective but also the most democratic

sadly uh

we... don't have labor organizing experience lol

Unionhawk

4:38 AM

damn

There's an example of a majority petition from members of SEIU Local 1107 to management in here

Which was printed as a 3 by 5... FOOT poster

(the petition is essentially "we, the proud employees of UMC and Clark County, work hard for the people of LV. Our demands are reasonable, and our negotiating committee, which we support, is ready to talk.")

Memor-X

4:55 AM

looking at my news feeds, like most of it for the past few days has been from the US about Trump separating children from parents. is it just me or could he not go more than a week (after US/NK Sumit) before wanting to be the center of attention again

GodEmperorDune

5:05 AM

@Memor-X he can't last more than a few days

Memor-X

@GodEmperorDune was Ronald Reagan like that?

just wondering if this is something to do with TV Stars being presidents or not

GodEmperorDune

@Memor-X Reagan was before my time and he did his share of fuct policies, but pretty sure it was not this bad

Unionhawk

5:23 AM

He certainly laid the groundwork for this bad though

quartata

daily reminder that reagan basically did the space force

Mar 30 at 5:12, by quartata

I was going to make a joke about needing a space wall but then I remembered Reagan basically already did that

trump stole everything he knows from reagan, really

he's just not nearly as good at this

GodEmperorDune

The senility too

fredley

10:46 AM

Yay, the drug legalisation debate has been reignited in the UK, although I'm extremely skeptical any progress will be made

Tim Stone

11:51 AM

No biggie. Just a NY FBI agent, a mobster, a phony branding company, a private jet all at Scaramucci's "SALT Conference" in 2016.

Tweeted by DerWouter on June 19, 2018 at 11:33 AM

Ah cool cool

Love too network

Unionhawk

12:59 PM

For two days, residents in Portland have surrounded the local ICE detention center with a 24 hr encampment. Tonight, without a fucking shred of irony, ICE agents complained those blocking their trucks were "keeping them apart from their families." #SurroundICE #OccupyICEPDX

Tweeted by MW_Unrest on June 19, 2018 at 6:38 AM

(there is no Cincinnati field office, nearest is Louisville)

Find an office near you ice.gov/contact/field-offices

Finding detention centers is trickier

if anyone has a source on that it'd be appreciated

"standard" ICE detention is often done in county jails, so that'd be one place to start research

but they aren't allowed to hold children there

Wipqozn

Exactly! It was recently made great again.

Nzall

1:14 PM

@Exeggutor Trust me, the only thing the US is winning right now is the trophy for worst hellscape this side of Brexit

But let's not get political in here

TIF ->

Wipqozn

← 4 messages moved from The Bridge

Unionhawk

...anyway

vote yes on 77 DC

none of you are DC but I don't care

> - Not sure what I'm going to do for mayor but I'm definitely not voting for Muriel Bowser
> - mdc dsa slack decided to write in Mario I think

nice

Tim Stone

1:36 PM

Not Waluigi, -1

Dem House candidate admits he voted for Trump http://hill.cm/mJ4jw61

Tweeted by thehill on June 19, 2018 at 1:22 PM

I was like "Wait what how" but West Virginia so meh

Welcome news: the fundraiser for @RAICESTEXAS has cleared $4MM https://twitter.com/jguynn/status/1009044521827487744

Tweeted by alexisgoldstein on June 19, 2018 at 1:38 PM

mmm I think @GodEmperorDune retweeted a point yesterday that this is kind of dumb?

Well not dumb but more that while everyone is putting money to a good cause it's not clear that the recipient can actually effectively make use of a sudden influx in cash

But no one considers that, so we just go "Ah, mission accomplished"

user15026

What is the cause?

Tim Stone

It's for helping reunite the immigrant children with their parents, RAICES provides legal services

So it's a definite good thing but at some point you assume they reach a saturation point where they can't do More Good and just have a lot of cash. Which is not bad but also not immediately useful

From the outside though everyone likes the big dollar value going towards the good thing so we don't consider if that's the most effective distribution of funds

user15026

Yeah, after a point you can only do so much because you only have so many people or options or power and now they have infinite money but what does it actually help

user15026

Like yay this organization is now rolling in it, but if I had to guess there are other places that could also help that didn't get this stuff

user15026

Because we just like going well we threw large amounts of money at it why isn't it solved

user15026

1:49 PM

(and this is even setting aside the "stop guilting people who can't afford to toss piles of money at your chosen savior of the movement")

user15026

(sorry sometimes I get mad at the "put your money where your mouth is" portions of the social justice movement)

Tim Stone

New, Exclu: Erik Prince tells me he has cooperated with Mueller https://www.thedailybeast.com/erik-prince-i-cooperated-with-mueller

Tweeted by woodruffbets on June 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM

...Is...Is Mueller invading a foreign nation?

Unionhawk

yeah,,, freakin russia

Tim Stone

Saudi moves ahead with plan to dig a canal that would turn Qatar into an island. https://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-moves-ahead-with-salwa-canal-plan-1.2238965

Tweeted by TheCamelsNose on June 19, 2018 at 1:36 PM

Wow, that's even more petty than Trump

quartata

that doesn't seem like a good idea

Memor-X

1:54 PM

@TimStone that sounds like an evil genius plan there

Tim Stone

You have to click thru for the whole picture because not only are they digging this canal but they plan to dump nuclear waste into the bottom of it

Memor-X

@TimStone i was about to say it was going to be cheaper since with a wall you have to dug too, but that was assuming they were just going to let the sea fill it

Tim Stone

I mean they are, lol, but they're also using it as a nuclear waste dump site

We used to do that with nuclear waste too off the coast of New Jersey until the public realised that radiation is actually Quite Bad

Memor-X

@TimStone well maybe Saudi Arabia is planning on turning Qatar into a prison island like that from Escape from New York/LA

quartata

lmao

Memor-X

1:58 PM

but instead of mines and a military presence, they had deadly deadly radiation

Tim Stone

Crime in Germany is up 10% plus (officials do not want to report these crimes) since migrants were accepted. Others countries are even worse. Be smart America!

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on June 19, 2018 at 1:52 PM

The President has moved on to suggesting that he knows the real crime numbers and that the officially reported ones are fake

Is where we're at here

Unionhawk

I mean that's been the standard right wing talking point

that actually they aren't reporting crimes done by muslims for reasons

Memor-X

@TimStone no he knows "alternative facts"

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Right, he's blowing the dog whistle pretty hard

Mad Scientist

@TimStone the latest report on that was presented by Horst Seehofer from the CSU, which is the rightmost mainstream party in Germany.

Memor-X

2:01 PM

ofcause there will be people who will say that it's plausible that Trump is right, to which i say "since when was the host of The Apprentice a Master Spy who was stealing information out of Germany"

Mad Scientist

they're currently busy almost blowing up the government because they want much more restrictive border policies

Unionhawk

@Ash yeah this entire mess is not an easy problem and while I think it is good to fund legal help there are limits to that. Heck, even mobilizing and surrounding ICE facilities has limits I think but I also don't know how we could possibly get deeper than either of those

organizing prisoners is hard enough but it's even harder when the intended pipeline is asylum claim denied->sent back

and when the circumstances are gestures broadly at the somehow worse than just prison situation they have created here

Tim Stone

Lindsey Graham just now: “It’s not all the Democrats’ fault .... I’ve tried a bunch, now it’s President Trump’s chance. He’s president - not Obama. I think there’s a deal to be had.” https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1009071403918864385

Tweeted by mkraju on June 19, 2018 at 2:02 PM

I mean it's only the Democrats' fault in the most indirect of ways but alright Lindsey

At least we're establishing for the record that the Big Boy President is indeed the one supposed to be running the show, I guess

1. NEW from me and @emmillerwrites: 600+ United Methodists file formal church complaint against Jeff Sessions Yes, that’s an Actual Thing. And yes, it matters: Sessions is an active Methodist, even serving as a delegate to UMC’s General Conference. https://religionnews.com/2018/06/19/more-than-600-united-methodists-sign-on-to-formal-church-complaint-against-jeff-sessions/

Tweeted by jackmjenkins on June 19, 2018 at 2:01 PM

lol Church Law might now be more functional than Real Law

Memor-X

@TimStone depends on which church

Tim Stone

2:31 PM

Oh god things are so bad even the Mooch is making sense (but still covering for Trump)

Yuuki

@TimStone ... wow

Unionhawk

@Unionhawk lol apparently there is only one entrance and exit to the parking lot

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk hmmm, so ICE is trapped within its own walls? chef's kiss

Unionhawk

it does certainly help our mobilization efforts

Yuuki

@Unionhawk ... this is beautiful.

Unionhawk

2:47 PM

from what I understand, there's a solid anarchist-adjacent presence in Portland

GodEmperorDune

i mean it's portland so

ToxicFrog

@GodEmperorDune and they are appealing the protesters to "let them go home to their families"

\ironicat_exploding_into_chef's_kiss

Yuuki

@ToxicFrog All we need to complete the trifecta is "why should the children be punished for what their parents do?".

GodEmperorDune

@ToxicFrog yeah, @uni pointed that out in their earlier tweet, too perfect

Nzall

By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you.

Tweeted by sfmnemonic on August 14, 2017 at 12:03 AM

Note: this is the official Twitter account of Mike Godwin. as in Godwin's Law

Yuuki

2:58 PM

I still find it weird that Godwin's Law is somehow supposed to shut down discussions or arguments.

It's just an observational comment on Internet debates.

GodEmperorDune

@Nzall the one compelling point i've seen for why NOT to do this is that it turns the argument into one about whether the nazi analogy is appropriate vs whether the policies in question are bad and should be stopped

quartata

Godwin's Law really is a fact, at least with r9k :P

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune I mean the far right is always going to reframe things anyway so I'm not convinced that pointing out that these are literally by definition concentration camps even if they are not death camps really enables this

Nzall

@GodEmperorDune I mean, in this case, the comparison gets more and more fitting by the day. Denouncing media, racist policies, constant lies, concentration camps,... At this point the only thing missing is an invasion of Poland

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk it's harder to reframe "separating children from adults and locking them up is bad and we have to stop it"

Nzall

3:02 PM

Although I think in this case an invasion of Mexico might be more apt

Yuuki

@Nzall What if they send the National Guard into Po(rt)land?

Yes, I know the National Guard is under the direction of the state governor when they're not federalized.

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune "how do we know they're parents and children"

bam

done

ez

It doesn't matter that the "everyone who crosses with a child is committing human trafficking" line is a fucking lie, that's what they're doing

@Unionhawk here's where you can find your local (publicly known, ICE) detention facility ice.gov/detention-facilities

(iirc some of the baby jails are under the direction of refugee resettlement?)

Unionhawk

3:38 PM

Meet Trevor Loudon, the paranoid New Zealand man behind the anti-socialist website KeyWiki who's probably stalked you and your friends on Facebook at some point. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/06/keywiki-trevor-loudon-anticommunism-red-baiting

Tweeted by jacobinmag on June 19, 2018 at 2:57 PM

Meanwhile!

Super glad my only public photo prior to blocking this guy was literally me in a ski mask

GodEmperorDune

> But Facebook posts and dank memes, it turns out, are only the beginnings of a dark conspiracy that stretches beyond conventional logic itself. If you’ve ever suspected that centrist Democrats are only kowtowing to their corporate overlords and torpedoing any minor attempt at left-wing reform as part of a long-term plan to establish one-party communist rule in the US, then Trevor Loudon has a story for you.

wow

Unionhawk

He's also got less on me than LinkedIn which reminds me I should do an opsec check there.

GodEmperorDune

this is borderline news so if the room feels its inappropes, feel free to delete

Being angry all the time is exhausting and corrosive. Not being angry feels morally irresponsible.

Tweeted by TimGrierson on June 19, 2018 at 3:01 AM

Unionhawk

Addressing burnout is a consistent challenge

Tim Stone

3:57 PM

Confirmed -- Trump Jr. withdrew from a George P. Bush fundraiser because of the family's criticism of his father. He cautioned George P. that he wouldn't publicly support him if it continued -- the tweet from Jeb about the separation of families was the last straw, I'm told.

Tweeted by kaitlancollins on June 19, 2018 at 3:35 PM

lol

GodEmperorDune

hue, bye george p

Tim Stone

A reporter at the White House decided to play the audio of children sobbing. Somebody had to. ... My column, with comment from @olivianuzzi https://wapo.st/2lj0dzm?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.a5a75d66b36e

Tweeted by Sulliview on June 19, 2018 at 1:49 PM

2

Yuuki

@TimStone Truly the Romeo and Juliet story of our time.

Trump Jr. and George P. want to be together so much but their fathers keep getting in the way.

Tim Stone

Olivia Nuzzi good again

THE MEMO: Child separation crisis risks "Katrina moment" for Trump http://hill.cm/ydh8eRl

Tweeted by thehill on June 19, 2018 at 4:01 PM

Wait but uhhhh

GodEmperorDune

evidence that bush made the hurricane hit new orleans

Tim Stone

4:07 PM

Just gonna gloss over Puerto Rico then huh?

Unionhawk

puerto rico was his 9/11

Tim Stone

Wait what was the Las Vegas shooter then?

Unionhawk

listen

I refuse to put enough thought into this bit to continue

GodEmperorDune

yeah

SaintWacko

@TimStone That is a well-written article

Tim Stone

4:10 PM

Iran state TV no longer needs to broadcast slogans against America. Just shows handout pictures distributed by US govt itself https://twitter.com/presstv/status/1009103057622355970

Tweeted by borzou on June 19, 2018 at 4:00 PM

🤷🏼‍♂️

(I mean but also screw Iran)

(currently)

Wipqozn

Religiously extreme couple loses child custody after stuffed lion purportedly transmitting the word of God acted as its lawyer

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn Beautiful

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko It actually gets really depressing

Yuuki

@TimStone One thing that amuses me is the "founding fathers must be rolling in their graves" sentiment as if the Alien and Sedition Acts never happened.

SaintWacko

4:26 PM

@Wipqozn Ugh, yeah it does

quartata

would like to take a moment out of everyone's busy days to report that Admin has, in fact, posted a picture of ICE in a toilet

Chippies

5:13 PM

U.S. Plans to Withdraw From UN Human Rights Council Today

isn't that really bad?

SaintWacko

Can't imagine it'll make much of a difference

The administration isn't respecting human rights anyway

Chippies

I mean... I guess?

but this just kinda makes it super official

it's just seems like a "we don't respect human rights and we're proud of it" kind of move

Unionhawk

At the same time though I'm not sure the "and we're proud of it" part makes it worse

Chippies

it doesn't make it worse per se, but it shows that it's acceptable to do it

right now we see them not respecting human rights and we go "holy shit, that's not good", but eventually we'll just be like "oh yeah, that's the US for you, lmao"

Unionhawk

it's an accurate assessment of where we have been for a while

on immigration, palestine, yemen, torture...

prisons, criminal justice more broadly

this country,,, is not good.

Tim Stone

5:26 PM

The State Department's "Family Travel" Q & A is going about as well as you would expect

Tweeted by JordanUhl on June 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk Sure, but there's a difference between "The situation has been bad for a while" and "we are officially going to stop trying to improve it"

Unionhawk

It's been bad for a while and we haven't been trying to improve it except in narrow circumstances where it's convenient to us and our allies

user15026

@Unionhawk Well, yes, but now the US is being pretty overt with that and not hiding it

user15026

And I think going "hey we want out of this thing that is a big "we are not assholes to people" signpost" while is kinda a symbolic gesture in some senses, it's also very obvious that they don't care to even pretend they care.

SaintWacko

@Ash Yeah, at least before it was something that people had to hide and pretend they weren't doing

Now it's being shown from the very top that it's just fine

user15026

5:35 PM

nods

Unionhawk

I'm just not convinced that pretending to care about human rights is any better than just not caring

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk its a start at least

admitting you have a problem is the first step towards resolving it

Unionhawk

Is it though?

In order for it to be a step at all you have to be interested in achieving a resolution

willing to take next steps

GodEmperorDune

i am not saying that resigning from the human rights council is us admitting we have a problem

this admin is not interested in human rights at all

Unionhawk

oh no absolutely not

It is true, at least the Obama state department voted abstain on a settlement resolution that one time

@GodEmperorDune I'm confused now though because like, pretending to care isn't admitting you have a problem either

It's definitely not good. But committing human rights violations is worse than not being on the council anymore

GodEmperorDune

5:51 PM

@Unionhawk yes

Yuuki

Jun 15 at 17:37, by Yuuki

Is it possible that the US leaving the Human Rights Council has something to do with someone accidentally abbreviating it in a memo and Trump started screaming “lock her up” non-stop when someone read it to him verbatim?

Unionhawk

it's also not the first time we've withdrawn

bush admin did in 2008 after an israel related vote went 154-7

unless I'm parsing this wrong

which I probably am who the fuck wrote this

yeah, I am reading it right

kind of

we held observer status in 2006-2008, withdrew entirely in 2008, and was elected to a seat in 2009

GodEmperorDune

so is this more like the "support NGOs that do birth control" that we stop every republican admin and restart every dem admin?

Unionhawk

I don't know

it's hard to say exactly what the motive is here

just that the Bush admin motive was specifically israel

yeah apparently that is also what we're doing here

It just happens to coincide with new focus on the detention of children in this country

and with DPRK talks

GodEmperorDune

i mean the venn diagram between "fuct trump admin policies" and "hypocritical trump admin stances" is a circle so

user15026

6:04 PM

I am not saying that formally withdrawing is going to change anything, it's more a giant signpost of fuck you guys I do what I want

GodEmperorDune

@Ash pretty much this

Unionhawk

@Unionhawk Interestingly, if I'm reading right, this 2008 vote was on a very meta rules question, that normally gets passed by unanimous consent. United States, Australia, Canada, Israel, and 3 other nations voted no

@Ash we walked out of a... security? council meeting as soon as the palestinian ambassador started talking one time, we've been signposting this for a while

user15026

Well yes but now it isn't even signposting it's I rented a blimp

user15026

I'm not sure why I feel like this is an argument

Tim Stone

I was confused for a second because I thought this was The Bridge and that you had actually rented a blimp somehow

GodEmperorDune

6:16 PM

Trump says Canadians are smuggling US goods into Canada to avoid tariffs: “They buy shoes and they wear ‘em. They scuff ‘em up to make ‘em sound old, or look old.”

Tweeted by EamonJavers on June 19, 2018 at 4:48 PM

Unionhawk

I don't know the last like three days have been exhausting, everything has been happening all at the same time by design and it's hard to try and prioritize it

GodEmperorDune

clearly @ash's shoe smuggling ring is how they can afford to rent blimps

Unionhawk

when like, multiple things can be important at the same time

Tim Stone

That makes sense, we better dispatch President Shoe Whisperer

Unionhawk

except there is only so much time in a day to address such things

Tim Stone

6:17 PM

My shoes actually don't make a lot of sound to begin with idk what the hell he wears

GodEmperorDune

i want to tie this back to that guy in the middle east that threw his shoe at president bush, then sales of that model of shoe skyrocketed

Tim Stone

HP iLO4 authentication bypass: curl -H "Connection: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" No, that's not a crash PoC. That's a full blown auth bypass. sscanf into fixed buffer overwrites a flag field that bypasses auth. Yes, really. https://airbus-seclab.github.io/ilo/SSTIC2018-Slides-EN-Backdooring_your_server_through_its_BMC_the_HPE_iLO4_case-perigaud-gazet-czarny.pdf

Tweeted by marcan42 on June 19, 2018 at 7:55 AM

lmao

Unionhawk

meanwhile, oh cool a nazi got court martialed

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone what servers are affected?

Unionhawk

sentenced to... 28 days confinement demotion to E-1 and loss of pay

(that's it)

user15026

6:19 PM

@TimStone laughs Nope, although now I am curious if i could

user15026

@TimStone yeah the "sound old" is weird to me

user15026

Also like...that would be the least effective way to smuggle ever. Way too slow :P

GodEmperorDune

@Ash literal sneakernet

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune It's HP iLO so Proliant, not sure what else that runs on

Cornyn says they will try to move a bill on family separation as soon as this week

Tweeted by Phil_Mattingly on June 19, 2018 at 6:20 PM

Looks like he's working with Cruz instead of just making whatever changes to the Feinstein bill

Unionhawk

(the cruz bill, for context, specifies holding asylum seekers as family units in these border facilities for 14 days, speeding up the asylum process, and immediately deporting anyone denied asylum)

(something along those lines)

(It is unclear to me if they are trying to go for reducing the "children must be held in the least restrictive detention possible" standard as well)

Tim Stone

6:26 PM

Oh my fucking god

He hugged a flag again

Unionhawk

yeah

Tim Stone

President Trump: "So, we have a House that’s getting ready to finalize an immigration package that they’re going to brief me on later, and then I’m gonna make changes to it." Full video: https://cs.pn/2JOJLps https://t.co/MZRe2PqldZ

Tweeted by cspan on June 19, 2018 at 6:24 PM

The Presidency is the third chamber of Congress now, apparently

But yeah the Cruz bill seems pretty cruel still but just our standard level of cruel instead of unusually cruel so I guess that's an improvement?

I'd have to believe Democrats would push something more substantial to get my hopes up any higher and they won't so 🤷

Unionhawk

@Unionhawk oh apparently since it was a summary judgement, this was the max they could have given him and they may be working to force him out in other ways

Tim Stone

Mike Huckabee Praised Qatar Without Revealing He Was Paid $50,000 by Qatar http://bit.ly/2ta6IJf

Tweeted by jackshafer on June 19, 2018 at 5:19 PM

Someone ask him his position on the radiation canal

Tim Stone

7:03 PM

"They want an America more like it was when they were growing up. that’s what Trump is offering,” says conservative Rep Daniel Webster. State Sen Dennis Baxley points out that The Villages offers that sense of serenity - a throwback to when they were children in 1950s America" https://twitter.com/zengerle/status/1009129701607202816

Tweeted by JohnJHarwood on June 19, 2018 at 6:57 PM

(it's because they're all white)

puzzlepiece87

7:21 PM

Don't forget male.

murgatroid99

7:40 PM

And more generally, things seemed better when you were growing up because you were a child, and had parents to take care of you, and weren't generally exposed to all of the shittiness of the world

user15026

I suspect some of it will come up as as "when men were men and women were women" bullshit :(

SaintWacko

7:55 PM

@Ash And when those minorities knew their place!

user15026

oh yes that too

Tim Stone

Trump: Look how cartoonishly anti-immigrant I can be Orbán: Hold my beer https://twitter.com/liliebayer/status/1009157670291591173

Tweeted by zackbeauchamp on June 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM

Tim Stone

8:18 PM

Sens @ChrisCoons & @SenJohnMcCain send letter to @SecPompeo asking to withdraw Trump’s nominee to serve as Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees, and Migration. (@JeffFlake came out in opposition of the nom in May):

Tweeted by frankthorp on June 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM

Unionhawk

8:38 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I think I understand why UAW also organizes like, grad students:

> Phil Wheeler, the former leader of Region 9A of the UAW ... made unionizing the professional field staff of most of the community-organizing groups in his region a top priority. When I asked why, the union responded, "So we can hire their organizers as our organizers, because they will be considered rank and file."

(UAW has a strict policy of not hiring from outside)

amazing

like I'm not going to argue with the original intent of the rule, nor am I going to argue that organizing more workers is bad, but, the two things coming together is just, spectacular

Tim Stone

8:53 PM

REUTERS: WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF JOE HAGIN, WHO LED U.S. ADVANCE TEAM FOR SINGAPORE SUMMIT, IS RESIGNING - WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS

Tweeted by christinawilkie on June 19, 2018 at 8:37 PM

(this is the guy who chilled with the sex cult and Benghazi folk)

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone ah i forgot about this asshole

‘Stand Your Ground’ gun bill headed for vote in Ohio House next week https://on.whio.com/2t92iSU

Tweeted by whiotv on June 19, 2018 at 8:04 PM

whats all this then @uni?

Back to fuct threads about trump

A quick thread on the historical context for Donald Trump's use of children as bargaining chips -- because it's not new, and the fact that he appears to be unfazed by the backlash might be because he's used the tactic against his own family

Tweeted by RobertMaguire_ on June 19, 2018 at 3:27 PM

Tim Stone

9:11 PM

RE the shoes:

> The Footwear Distributors and Retailers of America, the U.S. industry’s lobby group, said in a statement: “The president seems misinformed about footwear trade.”

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone i feel they could've put more puns in there but sure

quartata

the president seems to have gotten off the wrong foot here

GodEmperorDune

@quartata exactly

this should be well tread territory

puzzlepiece87

@KevinvanderVelden ^ for your appreciation

quartata

@TimStone does he even know how tariffs work

(trump)

puzzlepiece87

9:17 PM

@quartata Since trade wars are so easy to win, I think it's safe to say he expected to have this whole thing laced up with a bow by now.

quartata

for all we know trade wars might be easy to win and he's just this bad

puzzlepiece87

But really the whole experience has been one that seems to have improper cushioning - millions on both sides are paying more with little accomplished.

Hopefully both sides can air things out and get rid of the stink of the situation.

This clearly isn't a situation where either side is willing to budge a foot.

It might help if Trump's advisors could have him put a sock in it.

The way things are going now, we're toeing the line of madness.

Tim Stone

@quartata You know he doesn't and also doesn't care

puzzlepiece87

To rebuild trust, you need to walk the walk and show you think of other countries as partners.

Okay I'm done.... with this heel turn.

quartata

@TimStone I know I would have hoped someone would have explained it by now

Tim Stone

9:25 PM

They probably have but he also doesn't know what listening is

Akon set to launch cryptocurrency called Akoin https://pge.sx/2K0M4F9

Tweeted by eorden on June 19, 2018 at 9:26 PM

I can't even be mad at that, I'll allow it

GodEmperorDune

@quartata wilbur ross went on tv and talked some crap while holding an old person soup can

Tim Stone

12 Republican Senators sign letter calling for immediate end to family separation/"zero tolerance" policy while Congress seeks solution: HATCH MCCAIN ROBERTS COLLINS MURKOWSKI CORKER ALEXANDER BOOZMAN HELLER GARDNER LANKFORD CASSIDY

Tweeted by StevenTDennis on June 19, 2018 at 9:14 PM

quartata

sign feinstein's bill or instantly die

GodEmperorDune

@quartata but mah riderzzzzzzz

Tim Stone

They're trying to give Trump an out because they still don't realise he's too dumb to take it

quartata

9:32 PM

lmao

GodEmperorDune

also while it angers me that republicans in congress have swallowed the "its a law on the books" lie, if that's what it takes to stop this fuct stuff, fine

Tim Stone

Halting the policy via executive action while Congress figures it out puts the actual "Doing Something" burden on Congress like he keeps claiming is the case, so like it should be an easy sell

Stephen Miller hisses from a corner: NO SALE, NO SALE

quartata

yeah only trouble is he knows most of his supporters love this shit

~~crimes, fuck yeah~~

GodEmperorDune

@quartata i think he personally loves this shit too

31 mins ago, by GodEmperorDune

A quick thread on the historical context for Donald Trump's use of children as bargaining chips -- because it's not new, and the fact that he appears to be unfazed by the backlash might be because he's used the tactic against his own family

Tweeted by RobertMaguire_ on June 19, 2018 at 3:27 PM

Tim Stone

Oh yeah I forgot about that

GodEmperorDune

9:36 PM

@quartata more like "leveraging others' empathy as weakness, fuck yeah"

Tim Stone

"I can’t in good conscience send Delawareans to help with that mission": Two more governors pull National Guard troops from the border over family separation policy. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/19/1773387/-Two-more-governors-pull-National-Guard-troops-from-the-border-over-family-separation-policy #KeepFamiliesTogether #StopSeparatingFamilies

Tweeted by TUSK81 on June 19, 2018 at 8:21 PM

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone what are all these non border states sending national guard troops to the border?

Mad Scientist

@GodEmperorDune Trump asked for that, I think

Tim Stone

$$$

I'm not sure on the specifics but I'm pretty sure it entails funding

Note that national guard members can't perform CBP actions like, say, arresting illegal immigrants, so the practical implication is actually just dumb

Trump heading to CapHill for immigration mtg w/Adviser Miller & DHS Sec Nielsen

Tweeted by ChadPergram on June 19, 2018 at 9:30 PM

Aww yes, things are about to get dumb as hell

Over the past 24 hours I've heard from several sources that Defense Secretary Mattis has been iced out by POTUS and has increasingly become isolated.

Tweeted by yashar on June 19, 2018 at 9:01 PM

Mad Scientist

@TimStone that would be a pretty bad sign, if true

GodEmperorDune

9:47 PM

@TimStone how many smirnoff ices has he had?

@somospostpc I couldn’t even keep the US in the Paris Accord, but if there is some way for me to help these kids I will do so

Tweeted by elonmusk on June 19, 2018 at 6:31 AM in reply to somospostpc

our problems are solved, y'all

Tim Stone

Withdrawing from the UN Commission on Human Rights, and separating children from their parents at the border is rightly taking much of our attention. But, I also want to point out that a lot of America is currently on literal fire right now. /1

Tweeted by KendraWrites on June 19, 2018 at 9:36 PM

'MURICA, F…🔥🔥🔥

Yuuki

@TimStone And if we're not on fire, we're recovering from being Atlantis for a few weeks.

Tim Stone

LISTEN: As Pres Trump’s entourage entered Speaker Ryan’s office in the Capitol, someone on the other side of the Capitol rotunda yelled: “Mr. President, F—k you!!” (He entered about 15 seconds later): https://t.co/KHp16LYMoF

Tweeted by frankthorp on June 19, 2018 at 9:45 PM

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