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12:30 AM
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Sen. Tammy Duckworth is pregnant. She'll become the first U.S. senator to give birth while in office.
 
@TimStone yassssssssss
 
So how long before Trump says something horribly offensive because she's pregnant and also called him a draft dodger?
I can't even readily think of what it might be and yet I expect it at this point
 
@TimStone my guess, "unfit for office. should not have ran for office if she was going to get pregnant". also some remarks about Democratic
 
@TimStone thirty five seconds
 
I just heard that @realDonaldTrump's licensed brand of K-cup coffee -- "Select by Trump" -- is no more. Not political, the coffee-maker said. The Trump name just never sold many K-cups. Get a box for $25 on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/i/232473542997?chn=ps
 
12:43 AM
@TimStone i dunno if he'll go for her being a woman, a minority, pregnant, or not having legs
 
Wait does Trump even drink coffee why would anyone do this?
His taste in steak is a crime but he at least eats those
 
one day we're going to get Trump's taxes and it's going to be Sad!
he is the branding equivalent of krusty the klown
 
More pictures of Chelsea Manning are surfacing from Cernovich's NYC event. They're... not good.
Hm :/
 
@TimStone i love this conspiracy theory so much
 
(per the thread only she can explain what she was actually doing but it's really not a positive look)
 
12:51 AM
chelsea manning, the outspoken leftist, is secretly a nazi because she went to a nazi party and was outed by other nazis at the same party
 
I'm not sure how much that's being asserted by non-crazy people though? It seems to be the common statement of defense but she can have made a bad choice without her "going alt-right"
 
i trust emily g's take on this in that chelsea (knowing she is forever under constant surveillance) went to the alt right gathering in order to expose them to said surveillance and it didn't quite work as she had planned
 
Right, but given the Senate run and whatnot that seems…really dumb? Like I'm totally on board with that being the explanation, but it's hard for me to not see it as really bad judgment
 
@TimStone when was the NYC event?
 
I thought Saturday but I'm not positive
 
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12:58 AM
Do I think she's secretly a Nazi? No. Do I think she may have made some errors in judgement with whatever she thought she was doing here? Yes, especially in light of her Senate run and such. Like she of all people has to be aware of how much every action counts right now the more you're in public view.
 
@Ash yeah i agree with you and @TimStone on this
it definitely shouldn't derail the senate run, given that LITERAL ALLEGED PEDOPHILES came extremely close to winning their own senate races but the dems always are much more strict about such things
 
Sen Ron Johnson claims "informant" who has news about the FBI "Secret Society" working to overthrow President Trump. https://t.co/QzGhXBEUYD
Ah good glad to see we're starting 2018 off on a sane footing
 
@TimStone wut
is this the one that was saying that medicare for all takes away all the healthcare?
 
lol no, no somehow it is not
Barrasso is a Wyoming senator, Johnson is Wisconsin
CIA chief: Trump grasps intelligence briefings at same level as 25-year intel professional http://hill.cm/rwiiGeS
The ass kissing is just stupid
Like he's President! And that isn't enough so we gotta hear stupid crap like this
 
@TimStone if there is a 25 year intel professional who has the same grasp of issues as trump, that person needs to be fired immediately for incompetence
> “He has the grounding for him to be able to grasp this information in a way that he can ask sophisticated questions that then lead to important policy discussions,”
 
1:14 AM
Like sure, say he "gets it", maybe he does. I'm skeptical but I'm not in the room. But he has no training, so either the job is pointless or that's a dumb like, lol
 
i have never heard trump ask a sophisticated question or even have a sophisticated take
 
Oh FFS WaPo has a hoooorrible Cosby headline
 
@TimStone the one about standup?
 
Yeah
The maker of Huggies reported nearly $3.3 billion in operating profits last year. Now it says it’s using Trump’s tax cut to pay for a “restructuring” plan that will cut up to 5,500 jobs. Where's the money going? Dividends. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/23/580029629/kimberly-clark-announces-layoffs-along-with-3-3-billion-in-operating-profit
 
@TimStone love to trickle down
quick, someone tell the ny times to send a reporter to the heart of trump country to see if his voters still love him
 
1:22 AM
I'm curious how deep of a hole Trump will dig himself with this, because he's sure to keep gloating about how great the economy and businesses are doing, which is true if you only ever associate with people who have money
His base will still love his "showing of the libs", I'm sure, but I suspect they thought they'd get that and a pay day
 
@TimStone they won't care
they are in it for the racism and/or to be on the "winning team"
if they don't personally benefit, it's because obama really messed the system up so bad that trump couldn't fix it despite his best efforts
 
Yeah but that's a reason to just stay Republican, not necessarily to be big on Trump
 
or the libs/deep state/congress/courts blocked him
you'd think the areas hit hard by the opioid epidemic would be pissed that trump hasn't done anything other than say "drugs are bad, don't do them"
and that his administration are basically going to let the pharma companies off the hook with "who knew that sending millions of pills weekly to a small pharmacy in a county with 400 people was not legit"
 
It's not clear to me they won't be. I think they're still assuming he's working on it, but people get tired of waiting. "Only his first year", "he's new" doesn't work as well in the fourth year, unless they're sufficiently happy with his other gains
Which they might be! But we'll see
 
@TimStone this leads to a different problem
let's say the dems retake house and senate in 2018
do they govern responsibly and deliver "wins" that trump will take credit for? or do they descend to the republicans' level and just block everything until he's out of office?
 
1:34 AM
You already know the answer to that, lol
But I'm not sure how Trump would handle signing off on Dem legislation
So hopefully we'll find out!
 
yeah they will take the high road and get clobbered in 2020
 
NEW: Trump's heavy tariffs worry Republicans http://hill.cm/Un5U1YP
Future Scott Walker: "Who knew auctioning off my state to Foxconn would have consequences?!"
 
seriously
 
dunno why onebox is broken
 
1:42 AM
Yeah, me either, hmm
 
1:59 AM
@TimStone I mean the washing machine tariff is bipartisan in Ohio which lol
I guess we have a whirlpool plant
But like tariffs meanwhile not having AFLCIO on his side is probably not going to do him favors
I like when people say "communism doesn't work because people are selfish". So the solution is apparently to use a system that gives almost unlimited power to the most selfish people alive??
 
I built a 3D interactive about the largest wildfire in California history. http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-thomas-fire-40-days-of-devastation-3d/
 
@Unionhawk hue
@TimStone this is cool and also kind of awful
 
Who could have foreseen that despite the FCC gutting net neutrality and tax breaks Verizon wouldn't actually spend more on upgrades?
In far more shocking news, what in the sweet hell (CW: Not Safe For Life)
 
@TimStone renting?! wtf
 
They ran a corrupt body brokering company, which is a thing that exists and we are all apparently okay with
I guess this is in part a follow-up to that article about how bodies donated for "scientific research" are actually used for like, all kinds of science, including explosives testing and the like
 
2:14 AM
so the issue is that of hygiene
 
Yes, not that students routinely borrow body parts of the deceased for training
 
i mean if you die from a communicable disease and want your body used for science, explosives testing is kinda a safe way to do that
@TimStone i understand purchasing but borrowing?
ok practice cutting there and there... great now sew it up so we can send it back
 
I suspect that in practice most things are "one use", and the loaning company is responsible for proper disposal after the fact
But I'm not sure and this is a terrifying question
 
@GodEmperorDune True! The issue was that people didn't really appreciate that was a thing, apparently, so finding out after the fact was horrifying
 
What in the actual hell
 
Love too not actually care
At all
 
Ugh that hurts my head
It's like an Onion article
An @NBCNews exclusive: “We have been treated with respect here.” @lesterholtnbc is just a few hours outside the capital of Pyongyang with a rare look inside North Korea https://t.co/xTZM6QcLEy
Oppressive North Korean regime,,, welcome
 
2:35 AM
@TimStone I mean it makes sense
 
@TimStone weirdly my head actually started hurting as i was reading it
 
They don't fucking care
They're just going to cede ground until ICE is just allowed to execute orders of removal on every person
And if you don't like that then you'll be arrested for harboring
 
Alabama House successfully voted to end special elections
 
Well at least we got Doug Jones before they did
Oh god
So Tomi Lahren has reinvented herself as Hannity's version of Jesse Watters
@TimStone lol
 
3:09 AM
Republican Rep. Pat Meehan blaming his sexual harassment on the GOP's inability to repeal Obamacare...
 
Honestly the onion could just make "spineless Dems fuck it up again" a recurring series like their mass shooting piece
They shouldn't but they could
 
@Unionhawk hue
@TimStone can't let this roy moore thing happen again
 
@Unionhawk I'm not really sure what the purpose is, tbh. They say it's because it's too expensive, which I can sorta buy, but I don't believe that's their motivation. But preventing a second Doug Jones also seems like an odd motivation because idk just don't let the pedophile run and Generic Republican wins
 
@TimStone probably didn't like national attention on their race
 
@TimStone Or like rely on Doug Jones just being another Joe Manchin as he's proven himself to be
 
3:15 AM
@GodEmperorDune Yeah, I guess this has to be it, for a laundry list of potential reasons
 
As a certain N Alabama DSA member predicted he would be in a very heavily attacked piece
 
@Unionhawk senators represent their state, not necessarily the party
purples gonna purple
 
the best part of the Sanders Medicare for All town hall panel was the Obama official who pointed out that no matter how you technically pay for health care, the whole economy is created by labor/the workers
Holy fuck
 
I’ve spoken with Kentucky’s @GovMattBevin to offer condolences on behalf of Canadians for today’s shooting in Benton. Our hearts go out to Kentuckians, and to all those affected by this tragedy.
Oh apparently we had a sub today
AFAIK there has been no statement on this from Trump, definitely not on Twitter
Hahah Equifax but also uncanny that the dude runs a lawsuit funding company
 
4:18 AM
An Alabama town held a candlelit vigil for a Taco Bell after it went up in flames http://on.mash.to/2F6n9ty
 
 
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10:15 AM
Once again for the people in the back: You will never get the super progressive lefty government you dream of if you don’t vote for the Dems who win in the primaries. Putting those Dems in creates space for more Dems, and lefty ideas.
This is a thread I agree with
 
Client literally can't configure their own firewall.
Use some nmap to help them understand what I can see and cannot
EC2 abuse report
/r/notthebridge
 
 
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12:18 PM
@TimStone Trump is too busy fuming over missing his vacation
 
12:34 PM
Identical percentage of democrats disapprove and will never change their mind
Old, but stumbled across it and thought it was interesting
> So who are the most hardcore groups of Trump backers? Women who approve of Trump are most likely to say they will never change their minds: 72% of female Trump approvers say they will never strip their support, vs. only 54% of male Trump approvers.
> Also, 68% of approvers over 55 years old say they won't stop supporting Trump, along with 67% of approvers who have a high school degree or less and 67% of approvers who make under $50,000 per year.
 
1:09 PM
Those last two bits are why we need real working class consciousness in this country
 
1:48 PM
Meanwhile, Oregon approved Measure 101, a 2 year tax on some hospitals, health insurance premiums, and managed care organizations to fund medicaid
Which is rad
("if the measure failed, the state might lose an additional $630 million to $960 million in federal Medicaid matching funds... That possibility was enough to galvanize health care providers... Hospitals said the costs of treating uninsured patients in emergency rooms would be more than the taxes imposed")
heck. yes.
 
cc: @KevinvanderVelden
 
@Unionhawk But won't that drive up patient costs?
 
A thing to note: It is not the police deciding anything, it is police and our justice department cooperating. The justice department decides what to take
I don't know any other details
 
@MBraedley There is additionally language limiting rate increases to 1.5%
 
Okay, that's not too bad if it means more people are covered by medicaid.
 
2:03 PM
It doesn't expand it any more, it just ensures that they still have money to keep it expanded so they keep getting the federal matching
They did expand to undocumented children effective Jan 1 though which is cool
But 1 in 4 oregonians are on medicaid
and anyone making 138% FPL ($34,000 per family of 4) or less qualifies
 
@Unionhawk That seems like a lot.
 
1 in 5 americans are on it so it's just slightly higher than that
 
 
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3:11 PM
So immigrants leaving their countries for America makes those countries "shithole countries". Does that mean since Trump now living in the White House, Trump Tower is a "shithole building"?
🤔
@GodEmperorDune The Overton window doesn't just work in the right-wing's favor.
 
@Yuuki trump is accelerating the US’s path to being a shithole country
Love to pillage natural resources for short term corporate profits
 
check this out: a country that doesn't provide health care as a right to all people is already a shithole country
@UNI OPERATING AT MAXIMUM LEVELS OF GALAXY BRAIN
 
A country where people are daily dying from gun violence and/or opioid overuse and the political leadership is entirely unconcerned and not motivated to fix it
 
No, they're fixing the drug problem. Oh wait, what's that? I'm just being told that weed isn't really part of the drug problem.
 
A lot of it is going to come down to local activism
We're working on NKY needle exchanges now
and from there that'll hopefully launch into a larger opioid campaign
 
3:24 PM
@Unionhawk it shouldn't need to be though
 
@KevinvanderVelden Well, it's a big country, honestly, and a lot of stuff does come down to the states
Which often punt to counties which often punt to cities in the case of KY needle exchanges lol
 
The judicial and legislative independence of the states is a pretty big deal in the US, and goes all the way back to the framing of the constitution.
 
I don't see how any of that is relevant really
"Oh hey, there is a problem, I as member of government of scale X have the power to go and try to fix that, let's go do that"
 
It means it's a lot harder to get national programs off the ground. Can't go trampling on states rights after all.
 
Because it's a complex problem in a big country and every locality has a different idea of how to do the thing
 
3:28 PM
Yeah but most of them aren't doing the thing at all, they're not even trying
 
And we can't and shouldn't rely on the feds to get started
Because they haven't been
So let's do it locally if they aren't going to help us
fuck em
 
There's a difference between "Citizens need to do activism because the government isn't doing it's basic function" and "The thing the local government is doing isn't effective, they should do the effective thing"
 
Let's take Obamacare as an example. It's a national framework, but large parts of it are implemented by the individual states.
 
@MBraedley You mean like how in Belgium the Federal government constantly has various "fights/issues" with Flanders/Wallonia?
Which are sort of like States, except sorta not really.
 
lol DSA NPC (national... policy comittee?) just unanimously passed an ableism resolution that's basically "DSA do better"
 
3:40 PM
@Unionhawk Does he deserve that? I was wondering and looked at his wikipedia page. Says he supported the war, but he left the White House the year before. I was definitely expecting something 10 times worse for "the millions of dead Iraqis you're responsible for"
 
3:50 PM
@puzzlepiece87 Even if he left the year before, I'm sure that plenty of Bush's speeches used his material.
 
He coined the phrase "axis of evil" as used by W Bush yeah
Which was a big part of selling the 2003 invasion as a fight of Good and Evil
 
Ah, I'm not really convinced at all by that
Slick, lucky marketing is much less complicit than slurp it up reporting by the New York Times and Colin Powell's facts on the ground presentation
And seriously, "the millions of dead Iraqis you're responsible for"
So basically my conclusion is angry internet gonna do angry internet things
 
So good job on Doug Jones beating Roy Moore, buuuuuuut...
> Alabama GOP votes to end special elections
 
Yeah I don't really understand what their angle is here
They wouldn't have gotten so brutally owned if they just ran Generic R number 37, but they didn't and got owned
And they didn't even get owned that badly, like, they elected Doug Jones not Me
 
Even if Roy Moore was an especially bad candidate, it still shows that a Dem can win in Alabama even if it was under extremely extenuating circumstances.
The GOP wants total grip on power.
 
4:05 PM
I dunno I guess
 
4:15 PM
@Unionhawk I think @GodEmperorDune was right that special elections draw more outside attention since they don't compete with other events and that can be problematic for many reasons
So it's best to just avoid the potential for a repeat
 
@Yuuki All special elections, or just special elections that don't happen in November?
 
> Alabama House votes to end special U.S. Senate elections
Looks like all special elections for US Senate.
 
@MBraedley All special elections in the "Elections will only happen in November, on years we regularly have some sort of election" sense
(so even years)
But it would still technically be a "special election" if a senator had been replaced and wasn't up for reelection the next normal cycle
The claim in bringing the change was that setting up facilities for a single race was just too expensive which is probably factually correct, at least
 
@Unionhawk @Yuuki In my opinion, you're both thinking way too broadly. It seems pretty simple to me: "bad thing" happened, they want to be seen as responding rather than passive.
It's just an optics thing.
 
@Yuuki what
 
4:21 PM
Imo it doesn't have any real logic behind it.
 
LOL
 
@quartata Yep, no more US Senate special elections, only governor appointments.
I wonder if they'll backpedal if Alabama elects a Democratic governor?
 
how do they think that exactly is going to work
like
 
The same way it works normally for such things
The governor says "Luther Strange will replace Jefferson Beauregard Sessions"
 
ohhh right
 
4:23 PM
then the normal election happens whenever
 
I forgot it's only required for the House
 
4:39 PM
@quartata What, really? That's messed up.
 
special elections are required for house seats, but not the senate
 
The House is the place where it makes more sense to appoint someone because the appointee will serve a maximum of 24 months, so it makes less sense to use some of them doing an election.
But a senator that could potentially be serving 72 months can be appointed?
Very awkward
Mismatched effort and impact
 
Hm? It's about the Senate, the change just prevents the election from happening in off-years
WATCH: Burger King blasts FCC over net neutrality repeal with "Whopper neutrality" video http://hill.cm/hvoySrd
 
I mean on a federal level special elections are required for the House
But states can do whatever the hell they want with the Senate
 
Yeah the senate has been appointed by legislatures in the past in most states
 
4:47 PM
@TimStone /r/madlads
mfw "mbps of course stands for making burgers per second"
 
I think the constitutional clause only says that the vacancy must be filled by election, not that a special election must be held (but one must be held or the seat will remain empty, since they can't do appointment)
 
omg the end is the best part
drinking out of the giant mug hahahahaha
 
5:02 PM
@TimStone @quartata @Unionhawk That's exactly what I am saying seems broken to me.
The position with the longer timeline should have more democratic input, not the one that is for 24 months at most, a significant portion of which would be consumed by special election.
 
I mean the senate has always been more removed from "the people"
The appointment is only for at most 24 months though
Because the election is just shifted to the next November in which there would usually be elections
 
@quartata For anyone who doesn't get the reference for the scene at the end of the Burger King video: cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/…
(trigger warning: punchable face)
 
@cazc_941 its a bit fuct if you ask me
 
nassar (extremely former USA Gymnastics team doctor) sentenced to 40-175 years
 
U.S. gymnastics doctor sentenced 40-175 years in sex assault case
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/gymnastics/larry-nassar-sentencing-wednesday-1.4501386
Shared via the CBC News Android App
 
5:57 PM
practically 40 to life
but you know
 
Is it a single sentence of 40-175 or multiple sentences?
Because I think single sentences are more easily reduced by appeal.
 
I don't know but I'm also pretty decently confident that he'll be in there for a long time, there are a lot of charges at play in the 40 number
 
6:11 PM
He also has a separate conviction for child pornography, not sure if that works concurrently or
 
I mean, I'm not sure that matters at this scale of numbers
and at his age
the judge is very much "I'm not allowed to give you life so I'm going to give you <word that means sentence with years unforseeably far in the future I forget>"
 
Yeah, there's no punishment suitable for what he did
I hope the people who enabled him face some sort of consequence too
 
It's some jargon term that refers to a scifi character I think
 
user15026
@Wipqozn thank fuck
 
6:39 PM
@Ash score one for basic human decency
 
user15026
@Wipqozn indeed
 
6:59 PM
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Jan 18 at 18:29, by Unionhawk
y'all ever see a take so bad you are forced to immediately go to sleep?
 
7:19 PM
@Unionhawk The worst part is that there's a point to be made about him going to Davos and yet we got this
 
@Unionhawk are they actually on the sanctions list or they just committed the crime of being russian?
 
I'm going to guess the second one
 
They might indirectly be on a sanctions list since the bulk of them deal with finance, but yeah, dumb
 
I mean to be fair know your audience lol
maddow's audience loves this shit
ben shapiro's only job is to mainstream white supremacist thought to a new generation of assholes. however, he's also entirely relatable in some key respects
hahahahahahahahahaha holy shit
 
i lost so much respect for her when she hyped and bungled the tax thing
@Unionhawk extremely same
 
7:28 PM
@GodEmperorDune She reportedly pressed Schumer on how he could possibly guarantee that he could get a DACA deal the other night, at least
 
ehhhhhhhhhh
 
@Unionhawk This is incredible
@GodEmperorDune I didn't watch it, I'm just repeating what Twitter told me
And when has Twitter ever been wrong?
 
@TimStone It's a piece in slate which has some good anecdotes but largely gives him too much credit for being principled and such
 
Naturally
 
and gives him too much credit for being five foot nine
which I Don't Believe
 
7:30 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been a "What if Trump was born short?" thinkpiece yet
 
He'd be Ben Shapiro
It's just physics
Alex Jones just urged Trump to "just have the army arrest people". Times have changed.
wait
wasn't that the whole premise behind Prison Paul?
is that he was convinced that Obama would do this thing?
 
Yes, but also
If the Troops become the HomeTroops what happens to the cops?
WHY DOES HE HATE OUR POLICE
 
@Unionhawk Something something Jade Helm?
 
RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel says she thinks President Trump was "just trying to get to know" then-acting FBI Director McCabe when he reportedly asked who McCabe voted for http://cnn.it/2rAGcue http://snpy.tv/2DBmrrQ
Ahahahaha
 
Hello Hollywood, please give me $100 million and Mark Wahlberg so I can make this movie
@TimStone to be fair the only correct answer to this question is "I wrote in myself"
 
7:38 PM
 
@TimStone rekt
 
I'm a little disappointed that his bio doesn't say "Hates pizza" though
 
seriously
"date me to OWN THE LIBS"
 
Oh my god
 
As other Twitter points out there's no particular evidence he created the account, but
Still hilarious if True
Ah good I see Meehan has found a way to like, quadruple down
GOP lawmaker: Aide who accused me of sexual harassment "invited" my behavior http://hill.cm/orbSiKH
 
7:48 PM
this is after the "thanks obama" response, right?
 
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@TimStone All of that just makes me so damn uncomfortable.
 
@GodEmperorDune I'm not sure if it's after or at the same time, he supposedly said it yesterday
 
user15026
Like all of his justification is gross and weird and just hella nope
 
I feel like the "omg the ACA was sooo stressful" thing was slightly before that, but I'm not positive
 
@Ash yes he is making everything much worse
just resign to spend more time with family
 
7:49 PM
@Ash Yeah, he's trash
 
that too
 
user15026
So much of that is like...classic gross stalker-y lovesick abusive gross man behaviour, I jsut
 
MI CD-13: Hedge fund partner John Conyers III (D) - son of resigned Cong John Conyers Jr (D) - files FEC paperwork to run for his dad's open seat. His campaign committee is named "Conyers to Conyers." FYI: His cousin St Sen Ian Conyers (D), three others, are already running.
🤔
 
@TimStone jeez
love to nepotism
 
Yeah, like on the one hand the black community deserves to have strong voices to represent it since Congress is so overwhelmingly white but boy oh boy does that otherwise seem wrong
Major US manufacturer to use savings from GOP tax law to pay for 5,000 layoffs http://hill.cm/JBFcyHk
We covered this but the image person is on point again
 
7:57 PM
@TimStone is it sad that i have to ask "which one"?
also its not like he is retired because of old age or something, he is retired for sex harassment
 
Yeah I'm still like not 100% sure he ever even admitted to the claims, so I think they're just trying to gloss over that, which uhh >_>
 
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