It's going to be a game of what they're willing to concede
Tonight @SenSanders will host a conversation about #MedicareForAll. @SenSanders if #MedicareForAll is implemented, how many people will lose their current coverage? Answer: EVERYONE with private coverage.
.@SenSanders’ #SinglePayer bill would actually outlaw employer health coverage— Check out Section 107 of the bill he sponsored and 16 other @SenateDems cosponsored https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1804/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22s.1804%22%5D%7D&r=1
@Yuuki That's probably a harder question to answer. Theoretically yes, but since companies offer health coverage as a benefit now to avoid paying you more, and get a tax write off for doing so, someone would likely have to do the math
@TimStone I mean, just like how businesses pocket the difference from tax breaks instead of increasing wages, I'm sure they'll do the same when they don't have to pay for healthcare.
Lowering costs will never provide motivation to raise wages.
@TimStone I mean, at a certain point though, wouldn't paying people that small amount more accomplish the write off anyway? Or as in providing these benefits (where you don't have to per ACA mind you) specifically is a write off
@Unionhawk Yeah but you as a worker get benefit from that arrangement because you don't have to pay out of pocket, which would be more expensive for you individually, so it's a benefit-add of your employment. So they'd likely pay you a little more to give the perception you're at least no worse off, and it's not immediately obvious if that'd be a substantial savings
For regular visits and stuff my copay is only like $20, so $20 every 6 months versus $300, $400 per-month you have to pay minimum to have an individual plan, and then the plan fees on top
I'm pretty sure companies < 50 employees still don't even have a requirement to offer coverage, and companies < 25 employees that do get a 50% tax credit on top of whatever else for offering it
"Oh no I have to give employees insurance because I own ten franchises whatever will I do?"
Honestly, I’ve been trying to understand deductibles for the longest time. Is it “you pay all expenses until you hit X and we’ll cover all future expenses for the year” or is it “you pay all expenses up to X and we cover expenses more than X”?
Usually anything non-routine counts except because that's a device and not a procedure I'm not positive and you should check your policy to be safe >_>
Deductibles for health insurance still seem weird to me. We certainly have stuff they don't cover, but we don't really have deductibles. Those are mostly for stuff like car insurance
how high is the typical tax burden + healthcare in the US? It's pretty high here, but healthcare seems even more expensive in the US than here, even though taxes are certainly higher here
@MadScientist our taxes are lower than i think all the european countries, but i'm pretty sure that taxes + healthcare is higher than your taxes + healthcare
the most recent michael moore film had a chart but i'm sure there was at least some cherrypicking
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CFPB, currently being run by Mick Mulvaney, drops investigation into lender that donated to Mulvaney’s congressional campaign https://www.americanbanker.com/news/cfpb-drops-probe-into-lender-that-gave-to-mulvaneys-campaigns