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12:00 AM
Granted these were exceptionally public embarrassments, so
(on top of the severity of the collisions)
 
I think there's probably a decent case for negligence here too
@GodEmperorDune he ate it off camera
This is canon
 
@Unionhawk well he cooked them, can't go wasting them now
he just couldn't eat them while the other Porg was watching
THEIR SO GOD DAM CUTE!
 
@Memor-X they are a mix of puffins and pugs and therefore unstoppable cuteness
also to derail the conversation back into less fun territory, here is a good thread about how you, the person who wants to still have sex while not worrying about going to jail for messing it up, can improve things (and incidentally have better sexytimes too). It starts with some metaphors in the aziz context and how it is a larger problem, but we covered that already, so right to the middle
Let me switch metaphors and share with you a theory that came to me last night. It's called Have Sex Like You're Throwing A Party. It was going to be Have Sex Like Your Grandma Throwing A Party, but I don't know your grandma.
this is also a good woke lady follow
 
Ash
12:22 AM
Have an alternative activity. "If you're not sure, we could just [talk/play XBox/watch The Good Place]." And again, mean it. This is not a clever ruse to buy you time to try your whole move set over and over again until you discover her pokemon type and elemental weakness.
This this this this this (also the reference cracked me up)
Also, the bit about if you can't recognize a soft no, wait for a hard yes
augh this thread hugs it to themself and makes happiness hum sounds at it
Also wait wait wait wait wait SHE DID TALES OF MU
sorry, I don't mean to derail, I will just be over here, mulling that over
 
#BREAKING: Majority of National Park Service advisory board quits after Zinke refused to meet with them http://hill.cm/J8aw8js
 
@Ash omg that thread is fantastic
 
TIL: Skittles have different fragrances and different colors — but they all taste exactly the same. 🌈 http://n.pr/2EltReQ
Alright we need to end reality because I can't believe anything is real now
 
Ash
@TimStone I knew this was going to be about the way colour and scent confuse taste and it is and I love it
 
12:38 AM
@TimStone objection! They may have the same flavour, but taste is influenced by both flavour and smell, so if they have different fragrances, they don't taste the same.
 
Ash
Like brain processing is so messed up and so easily tricked
 
Brains are so weird.
 
Ash
They are and it is so cool
(The reason I know what I do about the colour/scent/taste thing is because that sort of stuff is tied into synesthesia which is a thing that fascinates me)
(in general how brains do or don't is fascnating)
(oops sorry this is a hyperfocus I will back away before I overload)
 
@Ash Which is, in a way, terrifying :P
 
@Ash totally saving that thread for next time I see someone wittering on about "but what if I unwittingly do a sex crime"
 
Ash
12:41 AM
@ToxicFrog yaysauce! Although @GodEmperorDune should get full props for it
I just pulled out a bit I liked
(also I have this overwhelming urge to re-read Tales of MU from the start)
 
Tales of MU is not known to me
 
this is sorta true, well not just Skittles but anything of different colours. there was this show (i think it was *Food: Fact or Fiction*) where they did an experiment with different coloured icing on cakes. all cakes were the same and only a different colour was used for icing (Green, Brown, Red and Blue).

subject was blindfolded and asked to taste 4 pieces, each with different colours. reported they all tasted the same. subject was unblind folded and tasted same cakes, reported tastes of Mint, Chocolate, Berry and Gummy flavours
 
@Ash what is tales of MU?
 
Ash
Tales of MU is a kinda over the top ridiculous serial erotica story I discovered before I knew what erotica is. It's kinda crack-y in spots, and really ridiculous, but it was good for what it was. To quote TV Tropes: "The story revolves around the life of Mackenzie "Mack" Blaise, a self-hating half-demon student at Magisterius University, a college of enchantment in an alternate universe where Dungeons & Dragons-style fantasy and magic exist in place of modern technology. "
It's NSFW, but it's reasonably good in that whole "don't think about it too hard and just enjoy it for what it is" thign
It's also hella long. Year 1 is like 496 chapters, year 2 is afaik unfinished so far at 330 something
Year one can be gotten as an ebook (which I might grab as a nice support the author thing)
 
o.O
 
12:54 AM
@Ash "Tales of MU" ooo, new Tales of Gam....*"is a kinda over the top ridiculous serial erotica story"* ok, not a Tales of Game
 
Looks like Eric Bolling and Greta Van Sustren both got hacked by...Turkish hackers?
 
"in an alternate universe where Dungeons & Dragons-style fantasy and magic exist in place of modern technology." yeh, what i would expect from TVTropes to describe a fantasy world
 
Ash
Let me make it clear - I am not recommending anyone read Tales of MU because it's pretty crackfic in a lot of spots and it is kinda a hot mess even for crack erotica
 
This hack is absolutely wild
 
@Ash i have no idea what crack means in that context
@Unionhawk this is in response to the US helping the Kurdish set up a border force?
 
1:10 AM
I have no idea probably
 
@Ash crack erotica meaning?
 
Ash
1:58 AM
Like...completely over the top ridiculous not grounded in reality?
 
god dammit we voted for cloture on FISA
cool
But it's almost like
Voting for democrats is not enough
 
@Unionhawk this the government shutdown if they didn't get their budget in order?
 
No this is warrantless wiretaps on people as long as one of those people is not an American
And whatnot
NINETEEN D votes for proceeding, eight R votes to not proceed
Good thing Doug Jones won th-- what's that he voted to proceed? Oh
 
2:14 AM
:fire:
 
:wind:
 
Maryland's guy voting strategically to not have the obvious "he's pro surveillance and I'm literally Chelsea Manning" line of attack against him lmao
When Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are on the right side of an issue but Feinstein and 18 others aren't
 
Feinstein tried to put protections into the bill but failed, and no one wants to get blamed for just entirely pulling the rug out from under intelligence services, so it's a predictable outcome
Nevada Dems unveil 2018 campaign mascot: "Mitch McTurtle" http://hill.cm/PuRBoyV
But I bet you didn't predict that
 
I mean
 
@Memor-X :water:
 
2:25 AM
New York bill would strip Trump's name from state park http://hill.cm/bJaQFZQ
French Hill? GLOBALIST!
 
That might be the dumbest series of 3 words ever posted in this room
I'll have you know
 
Hitting peak 2018 not even a month in is a kind of accomplishment
Congratulations to Chris Christie on becoming the first elected New Jersey governor in *decades* to leave office without breaking one of his legs! 1/
lol I knew about Corzine but I did not know about the others
Spirit probably shattered into a million pieces though
 
2:48 AM
Also apparently Steve was/has been in intelligence committee for like 10 hours?
 
Supposedly refusing to answer questions despite a subpoena on instructions from the White House
 
I mean on one hand that makes sense
 
It's unclear what they've been doing the whole time if that's true though
 
On the other hand, someone in intelligence committee probably would have been like "this is a waste of time" at hour like 2 if that was the case yes
 
Nunes is just going to report anything he says back to Trump anyway
My working theory is that the first five hours were just him taking off his outer layers
 
2:52 AM
Who knows, maybe we get Jared with this which again, aside from just being satisfying comedically, doesn't matter
 
I mean it kind of matters, Jared might go on to be an expert in many things he was definitely not an expert at otherwise
 
@quartata :spleen:
 
@nycsouthpaw On Maddow he said a lot of time was taken by Bannon counsel consulting w WH, then drafting subpoena, etc. but they did ask questions about earlier time frame, and they got WH questions on record so they could compel him via court to come back and answer.
Don't forget that the Fake News awards are definitely maybe tomorrow!
 
@Memor-X BY OUR POWERS COMBINED, I AM CAPTAIN NSA
 
@quartata i thought it was Colin Mochrie that was summoned
 
3:01 AM
@TimStone god, I hate everything because everything is just a stupid distraction from shit like Matt Bevin threatening to either eliminate the Medicaid expansion or eliminate Medicaid for unemployed people
Or like, fucking, everything else ever
 
Ah, distractions like Today in Matt Gaetz is garbage?
 
But no we just fuckin, fake news awards, omg Jake Tapper said 'shithole' on TV, uh
God
It's exhausting and stupid but also they're carrying out all this evil shit too
 
Ex-Sheriff David Clarke: Trump is the only person who "cares about black American citizens" http://hill.cm/Pwub7KG
1. I still maintain that once you are no longer the thing for most professions including Sheriff you are just That Dude <Name>
 
how do they get these people to say these things
 
2. The only person. The only person? Come on
 
3:09 AM
lmao he's not a sheriff anymore
 
@quartata money, screen time, spotlight
 
3:24 AM
Trouble for CR: MEADOWS just now: "Based on the number of no and undecided votes, there is not enough votes for a Republican-only bill."
Ahahahahaha
 
3:36 AM
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 NEWS: Democrats just FLIPPED a Republican held state Senate district (#SD10) in Wisconsin from red-to-blue. Patty Schachtner (@PattyforSenate) won seat that Trump won by 17 points in '16 (55-38) What started in 2017 continues into 2018 #Midterms2018
GOP winners in the other three elections tonight (all four were GOP-held seats)
Supposedly Dems saw point gains of double-digits over previous elections though
 
3:51 AM
The Australian government has filed a formal complaint with the World Trade Organisation in protest of Canada's rules over the sale of Australian wine. MORE: http://bit.ly/2mM61m5
has nobody thought that maybe Canada doesn't want Goon Bags?
for those who don't know what a Goon Bag is...
Box wine (cask wine or boxed wine) is wine packaged in a bag-in-box. Wine is contained in a plastic bladder typically with an air-tight valve emerging from a protective corrugated fiberboard box. It serves as an alternative to traditional wine bottling in glass with a cork or synthetic seal. It is sometimes called goon , goon bag or "Chateau Cardboard" in Australia. == History == The process for packaging 'cask wine' (box wine) was invented by Thomas Angove of Angove's, a winemaker from Renmark, South Australia, and patented by the company on April 20, 1935. Polyethylene bladders of 1 gallon ...
it's the bag inside that ^
 
Ash
We have boxed wine
 
@Ash i'm sure you do, but do you have people who buy the boxed wine and take out the bag and carry/drink from it
 
Ash
Possibly :P
 
i like Urban says about it
> Cheap wine that comes in a box and leaves the consumer with an extreme headache the next day. Convenient because the remains of the vessel can be inflated for use as a pillow after consumption.
 
@Memor-X that's the only way to do box wine
Carrying the bag around a party, INCLUDING to drunk people on an exercise bike
 
4:01 AM
tfw Bitcoin crashes so hard that /r/cryptocurrency unironically pins a suicide prevention post
 
> How fast can Bitcoinf fall? as fast it's investors when they throw themselves off the roof
 
hopefully any investors here are doing OK, please don't kill yourself over a couple thousand k thx
 
@puzzlepiece87 i dunno, some survivors on twitter have said that the specific details of how boundaries were pushed and whatnot was what made it ring true with their own experiences, plus i read the "how she was dressed" thing as heading off the "victim gave mixed signals by dressing scandalously" argument.
plus i feel that giving specific examples of "he did this and she did this in response" not only provides context for why this was messed up even though probably not criminal
and it did spark the "men need to understand consent better" arguments in some circles but like with everything else, hindsight always makes it better
and like with anything else, the hot take community is gonna make awful hot takes and that trickles to opinion writers and eventually into news stories that are little more than aggregating the various takes
 
 
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6:47 AM
BREAKING: New Californians were not informed of the plan to ditch Old California https://twitter.com/kathygori/status/953512836071809025
 
Ash
New California?
 
@Ash some rural counties are upset that even though they have most of the land, they are vastly outnumbered by democrats so democrats control most of the state government
so they are trying to secede from california to form a new state
as with most things, they have both valid and invalid points
 
Ash
....can they do that? I thought that wasn't a thing?
 
most likely not
but one of california's weirder things is that we allow anyone to put a thing on the ballot to change the state constitution, provided they get enough signatures
and it has turned into a thing for rich people to basically fund whatever they want
to get it on the ballot
there are companies that exist just to do ballot initiatives in california
anyway, rich dude on the right tried to do this thing where he carved california into 6 smaller states and it went nowhere
(fun fact, the proposal would've created both the richest and poorest US states, per capita)
(richest was silicon valley, poorest was central california which does farming and like small town service jobs)
 
Ash
7:02 AM
eeeergh that sounds awful
 
anyway, the fact that rural communities are not seeing their local needs addressed because state govt is catering to bay area or los angeles area interests is definitely a thing
some of that is that these are very wealthy areas, so politicians and potential politicians like to cozy up to them for campaign donations
part of it is also that we did term limits and it backfired tremendously
because no one can stay in an elected office for very long, so they are always trying to jump to a new position instead of doing good work in their current position
we fixed some of that and said "10 overall years in office" instead of x terms as a state senator, y terms as a state rep
also our budget has been a mess for decades, getting better but still not great
we prevented ourselves from raising property taxes since the 1970s, so that made most revenue come from income taxes, which swing wildly depending on the economy
but the weather is nice :D
oh except for the droughts and water rights which are yet another mess
 
 
6 hours later…
1:13 PM
Scott Walker warns GOP to "wake up" after Dems flip deep-red Wisconsin district http://hill.cm/7xBKpKR
lol my dude you just shelled out $4.5 billion in state funding for Foxconn
 
1:24 PM
2 Koreas to form 1st joint Olympic team, march together in opening ceremony
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/north-korea-south-korea-march-unified-flag-olympics-1.4490863
Shared via the CBC News Android App
 
@TimStone I think Walker is my #2 worst governor
I guess Maine is pretty bad too
But Bevin wins #1 in a landslide
At least some good news this morning
BREAKING: The activist with @Dreamdefenders that was arrested during the #OperationPUSH solidarity rally at the Florida DOC earlier today is out of jail!
 
 
1 hour later…
3:03 PM
> The 'girthers' aren't buying Trump's official weight and height
hue
 
3:24 PM
@GodEmperorDune Thanks for this additional context, I appreciate it.
@Ash @GodEmperorDune There was a California independence-from-US movement that was Russian-funded, hopefully this one isn't also.
 
I doubt it's going to end up going anywhere but who honestly knows
 
3:43 PM
Also I think it's already been decided that a state can't vote to withdraw legally?
 
I don't think that's their plan I think their plan is to split
 
3:58 PM
I doubt it will go anywhere either, I just get uncomfortable knowing these things can so easily make news and/or get off the ground with Russian funding.
I wish we were a little more resilient.
 
4:29 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, we had a whole war about that, didn't we?
 
4:59 PM
@murgatroid99 The war of independence?
 
The Civil War
 
You would have thought after all that 'shit we want to leave this union lets fight a war', anyone else creating a union might think to make leaving legally impossible from the get go
 
@fredley coughs and points and puerto rico America isn't really big on learning from past mistakes
 
@KevinvanderVelden Technically, this is about creating another state not withdrawing.
But that's still a federal thing, I don't think California can do this unilaterally.
woooooooooooow
 
5:59 PM
@Yuuki nope. it's also not even like most of california wants this
 
Right, which is why it's not going to go anywhere
 
and from what i recall, congress needs to do legislation to add any new state and i don't think they'd go for it in the senate
it's basically meme fodder that disguises actual grievances
 
right
 
BREAKING: AP Sources: Steve Bannon attorney relayed questions to White House during House interview, was told when not to respond.
 
Love too walk the line between executive privilege and obstruction
GOP senator puts hold on all of Trump's trade nominees http://hill.cm/dQnaK9w
How can your administration not even keep up with talking to your own party?
 
6:08 PM
Whoever you are, welcome to the resistance
 
@Unionhawk tim scott
 
It's Tim Scott
 
The Hill, pls to use for example "Ted Cruz (R-TX)" instead of "GOP senator" so I don't have to click through for that thx
 
inb4'ed gasps
 
> “The reality of it is, I don’t ask for much," Scott said during the Senate Finance Committee confirmation hearing.
"You can not call me back but you cannot disrespect the companies and the trading partner that is South Carolina," he said.
 
6:09 PM
@GodEmperorDune Actually, precedent with West Virginia might allow one region of a state to split from another without federal legislation. But that happened during the Civil War.
Which I would consider extenuating circumstances, but whatever.
 
@Yuuki it seems that is what they are going for
after the "split into six mini californias" was shot down
It comes down to an attempt to gerrymander the senate
 
Yeah, the West Virginia split only worked because they were able to "reform" the Virginia government by declaring that delegates who had voted for succession had essentially vacated their seat
checks watch
 
I believe I was promised Fake News Awards
Ice cubes fancy af @Unionhawk
This is so bad, I assumed it came from the DNC instead. https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/953685526258864133
 
@Unionhawk i don't know why they are running polls with oprah who has not even done as much "imma run" prep as zuck
 
because some people want her to run
oh god I just considered whether or not some people want zuck to run and concluded "yeah probably" help
HELP
 
no more celebrity -> presidents please
at least chelseaXY is making a senate run first
 
@TimStone Nope, that was fake news.
 
small brain: oprah 2020
large brain: no more billionare presidents
galaxy brain: no more billionares
universe brain: no more billionares or presidents
 
6:44 PM
I think the universe might be providing social commentary on the state of our health care when literal gold can be used to fight cancer
 
south park already did that joke
 
They did, but the prospect of the universe copying South Park is too much for me
Huh, Fi just added free data after 6 GB, except rate-limited at 15 GB, unless you decide to pay the usual $10/GB fee
 
@Unionhawk Libertarian Socialist? That's a thing that's possible? What is the assumption there, that people can be socialist without government guidance?
 
Yeah, libertarian socialists reject the state itself, as well as the concept of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy
 
@TimStone there's also a drug that contains platinum, used for cancer as well
 
6:53 PM
@TimStone Family plan with me? That $150 cap for 4 people sounds wonderful.
 
if yall are not tired of aziz pieces yet, here's another one
OH SHIT, LINDY WEST: "The notion of affirmative consent did not fall from space in October 2017 to confound well-meaning but bumbling men; it was built, loudly and painstakingly and in public, at great personal cost to its proponents, over decades." http://nyti.ms/2mOZtmX
 
@Unionhawk Ah got it. To me the odds of people on their own deciding to not only construct but also maintain a socialist system are ROFL, but good for them I suppose the universe needs its optimists.
@GodEmperorDune Thanks. These help me to process, learn, practice.
 
There are a number of different left schools of thought under the umbrella because fucking of course there are, and I tend to agree that obtaining revolutionary social democratic reforms is way more likely than abolishing the state and forming an anarcho-syndicalist collective, but, there are definitely things under the umbrella of "the State" that can not continue to exist in their current form, prisons most obviously to me
It is important to consider though that in a democratic society, the State is exactly the same as the People
Or should be anyway
The Government (tm) shouldn't own Cincinnati Public Library, We should
 
7:10 PM
Somebody has uploaded a probably nation state ICS malware to VirusTotal https://www.cyberscoop.com/trisis-virus-total-schneider-electric/
 
@Unionhawk If you were to re-create the government based on those democratic principles, what would you change to avoid that problem of the government and its bureaucracy becoming this separate entity that people don't directly control
 
@murgatroid99 i would change human nature
i don't really see any other way
 
@murgatroid99 Personally, I don't see any good ways of avoiding the problem. IMHO, one of the roles of government (but not the only role) is to provide the goods and services that private business is not only incapable of providing, but also unwilling, which I see as being at odds with reducing and especially eliminating bureaucracy.
 
We're currently working specifically on the library board here, honestly. I don't have some grand vision to reshape the entirety of how everything works.
Right now iirc they're appointed by the county commissioners?
Right now I believe the current political goals of the campaign include unionizing library workers to increase their power, as well
Really what I was trying to get at was trying to reconcile the sentence "why is that the government's job it should be all of our job", which like ideally "all of us, as a society" and "the government" should be considered to be practically the same as far as I'm concerned
I'm confusing myself here now, hmm
Like, there's simultaneously a specific case in that example that feasibly could have increased democratic control, and a more general case that is more complex
In general the arrangement we have is relatively fine, though like I said the layer of abstraction allows people to come at it from "why is that The Government's job and not The Society's job"
In specific every single person on the Cincinnati Public Library Board who was responsible for considering the now cancelled sale of one of the downtown buildings to a force for gentrification for months despite constant and consistent public pressure against it, and who spent $30,000 on some PR consultants to moderate one of the public meetings, should resign
 
7:33 PM
McConnell said he wants to figure out what Trump is for on DACA before moving to a vote. Yikes?
 
And should be replaced in a more democratic fashion
 
Solitary confinement in Canadian prisons ruled unconstitutional by B.C. court
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/charter-solitary-confinement-bc-ruling-1.4491526
Shared via the CBC News Android App
3
Fantastic. Go Canada.
 
@Wipqozn \o/ Hooray!
 
@TimStone ... does he not know?
How on earth?
 
McConnell or Trump? The answer to either is no, no he does not
And yeah it's pretty crazy that there's not an answer on the literally defining issue this close to the damn shutdown
Tillerson begins his speech at the Hoover Institution. He thanks Condi Rice and points out that there's no manual for how to be secretary of state
I mean there might be a manual on how not to be Secretary of State, like driving out your career diplomats idk
 
7:41 PM
@TimStone wut
there may not be a manual but there are MANY examples to choose from
and this administration seems to usually choose poorly
 
Man US politics is depressing
I mean like obviously, but wow
 

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