The Awkward Silence

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02:01

Do you live together or apart? Are you both in the USA now or somewhere else? What does "if I do something it's ok like Red Dawn" mean? Why would she apologize if you went with her to run errands? How often does this happen? What have you tried in the moment besides making her laugh? What did she say when you called this behavior abuse? Have you tried discussing this when you're both calm and, if so, how did that go and if not, why not? — Kat 1 min ago

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A J

04:43

Morning!

avazula

04:55

Good morning

lila

05:08

hi

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lila

@IPSCommentBot fp

Okay nice.

CaldeiraG

07:06

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CaldeiraG

yay it works

Morning!

lila

07:47

@CaldeiraG Hi good morning, but shouldn't it say 2fps now?

Ael

@lila You should be careful with what you wish. A Djinn might make you blind in order to fulfy your wish :p

@lila Yes, it should...

@lila Ah no, you cancelled your fp so it's all normal

(if you do "fp" and then "fp", it's like you never did "fp" in the first place)

lila

@Ael Haha okay but to see "0" I still need to be not blind :D

@Ael Ahaaaa okay now I understand, will it work now if I say fp again so that it's o/2?

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lila

okay nice.

Ael

@lila The way I read your sentence, you don't

lila

07:52

@Ael Ah okay, I meant I want to open the website and see the text "new cases: 0" so I still need vision for that.

Ael

@lila Yes, but the way you phrased it can be interpreted in a different way that's why you should be careful

lila

@Ael A bad djinn could surely find something against you sooner or later even if you are super careful all the time. For example "I want to find a suitcase with a million dollars inside!" and okay, tomorrow you go shopping and find a seemingly lost suitcase with a million dollars in front of your door, lucky you, you take it, then you soon realize you have the entire mafia on your tail that wants this suitcase back, and you have secret government service after you.

Ael

@lila Yes, but this is not a reason to make things easier for bad djinn ^^

lila

^.^

Ael

Anyway, inventing ways for a wish to go horribly wrong is one hobby of mine. Sorry if it annoys you ^^

CaldeiraG

08:05

@Ael yep was about to say this

lila

@Ael No it doesn't annoy me, it's interesting :D

CaldeiraG

interesting

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that's a new one

probably an one-off case

Ael

@lila In this case, here are some other way your wish can go wrong: there is an issue with the covid tests and now governements are unable to tell how many new cases there is per day. So people keep getting the virus and keep dying but since there is no tests working, nobody is able to tell how many people get it

lila

@Ael :O

CaldeiraG

@Ael good point

Ael

08:26

What you would want is no one actually catching the virus today but then the wish might be granted by: 1) killing everyone (if everone is dead, there is no one to catch the virus) or 2) the virus mute and then we have two different covid virus or 3) no one catch it today but the double of people catch it tomorow

You could also wish that "no one die (of disease) anymore" but then people might just become very miserable and in pain and barely able to live instead of actualy dying and then they would wish they were dead instead

Tinkeringbell

09:04

@Ael Good morning, aren't you a little ray of sunshine today XD

Ael

Ahah, yeah, sorry about that x)

Let's have a cat to fix it, @ips please

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CaldeiraG

another cat @ips?

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CaldeiraG

um what

@ips a less terrorizing cat?

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09:15

Arthur Hv

Do you know how are called these grey ones ? I like them, they are beautiful

remind me of a funny gif where one of them is searching through a drawer

CaldeiraG

British Shorthair

The British Shorthair is the pedigreed version of the traditional British domestic cat, with a distinctively stocky body, dense coat, and broad face. The most familiar color variant is the "British Blue," a solid grey-blue coat, orange eyes, and a medium-sized tail. The breed has also been developed in a wide range of other colours and patterns, including tabby and colorpoint. It is one of the most ancient cat breeds known. In modern times, it remains the most popular pedigreed breed in its native country, as registered by the UK's Governing Council of the Cat Fancy (GCCF). The breed's good-natured...

a reverse search gave me this

Arthur Hv

tyvm

the gif i was talking about media.tenor.com/images/2f7030291760b9d882e1adf80673688a/…

CaldeiraG

@ArthurHv you're welcome :)

Mithical

there's one of those - a feral one - that thinks it lives on top of my family's car

and pees all over everything in the yard

CaldeiraG

09:19

assert dominance

Tinkeringbell

@Ael No worries :P I can like it, just not used to it from you ;)

CaldeiraG

well i need to change this too

lila

@Ael Nice both descriptions :D actually the second one reminds me how they say that the worst punishment ever is eternal life, in mythology Greek and Roman gods are said to be jealous of our mortality as humans.

Ael

09:38

@Tinkeringbell **ceremoniously** You may now call me Dark Ael

:p

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha getting in a mood, I see :P

Ael

And this is what is perched on my tree branch:

When they are enough of them, we say that it is a "murder of crows"

Tinkeringbell

Yep :D There aren't any birds here right now. I think they all blew away with the storm last night XD

Ael

<Dark Voice On> Or maybe, they gathered somewhere else to plot the end of humanity </Dark Voice Off>

Tinkeringbell

It may just not be the right time. Usually they're bathing on the roof of the shed in the afternoon ;)

Ael

09:49

... You are breaking my dark vibes @Tink but well, you are a red parrot, so that could have been expected

:p

Tinkeringbell

I'm still a black parrot on Twitter ;)

The weather here is too nice today to be in a dark mood: It's sunny and windy :D

Ael

The weather here is kind of "sunny" too (I am in Paris and Paris weather is usually just grey. So anytime you can see a bit of the sky between the clouds, it's considered to be "sunny")

Tinkeringbell

Ah, there were no clouds at all here the entire morning, just blue sky :D

Right now I can see some really high streaks of white cloud.

Ael

That must be nice :)

Tinkeringbell

Yep! It makes me want to go outside though, and that's not possible because I have to stay inside today (I have meetings in the afternoon where I would usually try and find a gap to sneak out :P)

Ael

10:04

Can't you do the meetings from your garden? (I'm assuming you have one?)

Tinkeringbell

There is a garden yes, but since it's also windy doing a meeting there would probably not work as well. Too much noise.

I usually sneak out for half an hour and go for a short walk, then work until 5 instead of 4:30.

Ael

That's a shame then. Sun is good for your mental health (thankfully, I get almost zero sun every day and I am mostly fine so far so it's not completely indispensable)

Tinkeringbell

But this afternoon I have lunch, 30 minutes to work, 30 minutes of meeting, 30 minutes to work, 30 minutes of meeting, etc. until the last meeting ends at 4 o'clock.

After that there's already almost no sun left here XD

Yep. I do try to catch a few rays of sun in the winter especially... it seems I get low on vitamin D quite easily so ...

Ael

@Tinkeringbell Ah yeah, that's the inconvenient of living closer to the pole. I'm honestly glad I don't, our winters are dark enough, I don't need more night in December ^^

Tinkeringbell

12:13

Dear coworker,

We found the below traceback on our production server logging today.
It looks like something you're working on right now, could you have a look?

Regards, Tink

Hi Tink,

Yeah this looks like something I'm working on. Where did you find the traceback? Development? Production?

Regards, Coworker

I swear sometimes....

I'm going to use bold and italics and caps lock the next time, all together.

Ael

@Tinkeringbell Ah yes, that's why I always bold the "prod"/"qual" keyword

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell facepalm :P

Tinkeringbell

@Ael I don't really like bolding/italics or caps in a mail, especially when it's a short one it feels kinda pushy.

But I might need to start doing it nonetheless.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell No no. The correct response is to send a giant "PRODUCTION", preferably in fractur

and you know how much I love fractur

Ael

In other news: I have some "ghost test" running arround, I need to modify it (because of side effects in prod) but I have no idea where the test is launched from... (it's a shame the test is still running perfectly, otherwise I would receveid a warning with a link who would tell me were the test is)

Also, I more or less have to tell someone about this (because the side effect won't stop otherwise) but this whole thing is making me feel so stupid. I don't understand how something like this could even happen

Arthur Hv

12:34

@Ael I had to mention coworkers i rm -rf my home directory at work one day. I heard saying stupid stuff happens all the time to the best of us (and not just me)

Ael

@ArthurHv True, but still. Like, I have a good memory but I don't remember this test. How can I not remember it???

Arthur Hv

Alternatives would be to be less concise to insist on particularly important info:
Title: Traceback in production regarding <function>
We found below traceback on our production server. We saw it in today's logs. [remaining unchanged]

Ael

Ah, I just solved the mystery! It's because I have a test on another app who does has some effects on the one I'm currently working on. That's why I couldn't remember the test. Because I was thinking of app A instead of app B

Honestly, it's a relief to know that my memory is still working fine (well, as fine as usual that is), I was getting worried here

Arthur Hv

12:57

:)

at some point of my life I got used to have memories of stuff that didn't happen and vice versa

I got used to be very cautious with my memory

even though it works a bit better now

some events just slip through tho. Like did I lock the apartment before leaving ? :D

Ael

Well, some part of my memory is really not reliable, but this part is (supposedly) very good. So I would have been really upset if I suddenly realized that it wasn't the case anymore

lila

@Tinkeringbell Hi Tink, what are you going to use next time all together?

Arthur Hv

THIS

lila

I know, it was a joke, I tried to make my impression of that coworker but I guess it wasn't clear ;_;

Arthur Hv

oh lol

lila

13:07

:D

Arthur Hv

also, i felt like shouting in a quiet room. Now i'm feeling a bit ashamed at people looking at me

lila

Now this is starred, more shame on you :D

Arthur Hv

how dare you

CaldeiraG

:o

@ips cat for the chat?

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lila

13:12

@CaldeiraG It is recently always an uncomfortable suspense and that second feels like a minute, you know after you say ips cat but before it starts loading image, I'm always thrilled whether it would work or not :D

@ips cat

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lila

okay nice

Mithical

@IPSCommentBot catatonic

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CaldeiraG

@lila XD

lila

13:13

:D

Mithical

heh

lila

@ips personification

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lila

@ips uncategorizable

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lila

13:16

@ips vocationalism

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lila

okay much fun, enough.

Tinkeringbell

I propose a stricter regex for the cat command :P

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell :P

Ael

@Tinkeringbell Ah yes, but it's fun to dogge it, isn't it @ips?

IPS Comment Bot

13:19

Tinkeringbell

Staahp!

Too much pet pictures.

Ael

It's to make @lila feel more at home, like in here litter box :p

CaldeiraG

well, time to delete facebook /s

theverge.com/2020/10/21/21527217/…

> Facebook Dating launches in Europe after lengthy delay

lila

@Ael Haha thanks, it already feels more like litter box than litter box feels like litter box :D

CaldeiraG

well, the bot works for every SE site

You have to define its regexes, other than that

Tinkeringbell

13:31

@CaldeiraG I thought the Dutch article mentioned you could still use Facebook without Dating, just not Dating without Facebook?

lila

We had today 12107 new cases of the cockroach :/

Tinkeringbell

It's over 9000 here.

9283

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell looks like it's optional yes

and yea, you're right

no data for PT yet

Tinkeringbell

I think it's time for a song.

Elton John - I'm Still Standing

►

CaldeiraG

13:47

love that track

too bad i can't listen right now

every major music service is blocked :(

Tinkeringbell

Works for Covid too :P Nananana, I'm still standing :P

CaldeiraG

except amazon music which is weird

Tinkeringbell

spotify web works here, but only if I disable tampermonkey.

CaldeiraG

I used to listen to music at work but got tired pretty soon as I would pretty much shuffle the same songs

one thing is listening a playlist for about 30min and coming back to it the next day then listen several hours XD

I do the first one, only listen to music on the commute

Tinkeringbell

Bigger playlists :P

I used to use the 'discover weekly' from spotify to add to a list that I could listen while at work/on public transport.

CaldeiraG

13:50

I listen to generated ones XD

Tinkeringbell

It's gotten big :P

CaldeiraG

eheh

Tinkeringbell

And it has all sorts of different music I like, so there's variation :D

CaldeiraG

youtube playlists seems to be on par with my likings atm, i use youtube when at home

the problem is that if you close the app the playlist is gone

i find my discover weekly on spotify too diverse for my likings

and lots of indie stuff

I know the point is to listen to something new but

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: How to handle best friend in love of my new girlefriend?

a bit of context. I met a girl some month ago. We instantly clicked and started flirting. But My best friend also got a crush on here. She rejects (very clearly, but gently) his advance and a few months later, me and here where together. But my best friend is still in love with here and don't see...

CaldeiraG

13:56

@ExtrovertedMainMan is it a thing to ask OP 'what have you tried so far?'

i've seen a few posts on Meta.SE about the overuse of the question and how they dont like it

Tinkeringbell

It depends. I think I've seen it too, but in the sense of 'what have you tried so far' being bad because what's really wanted is a MVE on SO, or on mathematics they want to know how far you've come with your calculations...

I think you can use it here, but explain that we're asking because we don't want to suggest things already tried and it gives us a better idea of what interpersonal skill we'd be helping with :)

CaldeiraG

oh, on a related question i linked just now has this comment by me

What did you try so far and how it didn't work? Would just cut ties with Y work for both of you? — CaldeiraG May 8 at 15:11

in all honesty, it could work for this new one

Tinkeringbell

Oh well that one is old :P

I dropped it a long comment, I'll leave the voting up to the rest of you all!

CaldeiraG

:)

Tinkeringbell

@CaldeiraG I guess you were talking about e.g. this one: meta.stackexchange.com/a/172760/369802

CaldeiraG

14:07

yep

Tinkeringbell

I agree with Shog there: Asking what have you tried on it's own isn't helpful, explain what is missing :D

The one you wrote for example also asks to explain how it didn't work, and gives a hint as to what to include (whether cutting ties would work).

CaldeiraG

@Tinkeringbell (it's missing) a lot :p

i think your comment got it right

but im not surprised :)

@Tinkeringbell yea, it is somewhat a insightful comment i think

Tinkeringbell

I'm thinking of writing some proposals for our help/on-topic and good questions guidelines this weekend. I feel it might benefit from pointing out more clearly what Interpersonal Skills are and that we need to know about someone's behavior.

Not sure it does any good, but be prepared for some meta activity! :P

CaldeiraG

yay

@caldeirabot will like it

Arthur Hv

yay @ meta activity

CaldeiraG

14:11

the meta comments bot

Tinkeringbell

:D

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You can't act on your friend's feelings but you can probably tell him when his behavior is problematic. If that is your point, could you give examples of what he does or say and put you or your girlfriend uncomfortable ? — Arthur Hv 59 secs ago

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This sounds like a "what should I do" question, which is out of scope here. Some more appropriate questions relative to this situation might be "how do I discuss this with my friend" or "how do I support my girlfriend when my best friend has a crush on her". The question of "how do I handle this" may be an intrapersonal skill if you are talking about what you do with your feelings. — baldPrussian 2 mins ago

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Arthur Hv

14:31

I don't really know how clear it is to newcomers that a closed question can still be edited and salvaged. The label "closed" suggests otherwise, even if the banner invites to edition. Anyhow I'm always a bit sad when that happens and we have no further input from OP

But I also don't like people answer a question that's not really answerable without purely going on opinion, so...

CaldeiraG

14:54

+3270 new cases, new record again

Arthur Hv

government about to announce prohibited exit on certain hours for certain regions here

people think they just want to confine, without calling it a confinement

CaldeiraG

@ArthurHv not the same here but yeah, between 30 Oct and 2 Nov you can't leave your region

exceptions are work and such

to avoid groups on 1st nov weekend, catholic holiday

CaldeiraG

18:33

uh, it's taking a lot of time to do the migration

XD

lila

19:49

@IPSCommentBot fp

FP!

:(

CaldeiraG

yea it's down

and now i think my sd card is also not working

which is not good

lila

okay could you fix the sd card

My parents were telling me how in their young years there were big blocky cathode raytube Soviet TVs used, and sometimes they malfunctioned or stopped working, and you supposedly just needed to give a couple of good whacks with your hand on the TV chassis and that solved the problem. Maybe you could try this with that sd card? :o

CaldeiraG

@lila i'm trying x)

@lila eh, raspberry is just being petty about my ssd

CaldeiraG

20:15

some progress: booting with a usb flash drive works fine

lila

nice

CaldeiraG

21:11

ok, bought a non-compatible adapter :(

amazon.es/Posugear-Sopporta-requiere-Herramientas-Transparente/…

i'm returning this

trying to get bots back up now

i could do this at work tomorrow too if i don't make it today

lila

22:11

I heard that it is supposedly really cold outside of a flying airplane, around -40 C. But actually I'm now outside of a flying airplane and it's certainly not that cold.

Good night bye.

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