The Awkward Silence

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:00 AM

But sub-optimal

@avazula restrooms are always dirty

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Isn't it the definitio of public restrooms in itself?

Cashbee

how can i post an image instead of an image-link?

avazula

save it and upload maybe?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula yep, more like a middle name

Mithrandir

Post the image link with an exclamation point in front

Cashbee

9:01 AM

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cashbee if an image link doesn't turn into an image, use a !

avazula

Hi, I'm Public Dirty Restroom. I'd say I'm pleased to meet you, but we both know it'd be a lie

Cashbee

@avazula are you pissed about that?

avazula

@Cashbee I love it!

@Cashbee I'd rather say it's a shitty place.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Like all over the walls and stuff

avazula

9:04 AM

Now that is an awkward silence.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula I'm good at that stuff

BBL breakfast at 1 p.m., then some studying

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ BBL is be back later?

Cashbee

@avazula yup (had to google that just now xD)

avazula

@Cashbee Ahah! I'm becoming good at that! :p

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ CYL! HAND :)

IPS Comment Bot

+1 - one suggestion, though: I would change "Tell them to set up a separate account" to "Offer to help them set up a separate account". — AllTheKingsHorses 48 secs ago

#13417 AllTheKingsHorses (3760 rep) | A: How to talk to family member about their spending? (score: 0) | posted 2 hours ago by MichaelK (227 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by MichaelK (227 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["+1"]

@Astralbee It is guilt-tripping... your entire post is about the concept of making them feel bad about what they do. And if you do not see why this is ineffective, just examine your own feelings and your reactions right now, because I am doing the same to you with these comments. And since you are feeling negativity here for being told "you done wrong" (you even -1'd for it), then it must be assumed that this is what OPs folks will feel. And — again — you are ignoring the drive that made them buy stuff in the first place and leave that in place, while introducing a guilty conscience. — MichaelK 1 min ago

#13378 MichaelK (227 rep) | A: How to talk to family member about their spending? (score: 20) | posted 19 hours ago by Astralbee (10703 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["+1"]

Cashbee

9:17 AM

There seems to be a fight between 2 users, spanning over multiple Posts

avazula

@Cashbee Who ?

Cashbee

Im not saying names, but the comment bot should help you find it out ;)

avazula

@Cashbee I want to flag all of these so badly

Cashbee

@avazula do it, they are all no longer needed

Mithrandir

flag-pls, del-pls | VLQ ("try this") | How can I politely ask someone what gender they are?

avazula

9:23 AM

'gonna lose all my flags for that

Cashbee

@avazula you will get more daily flags after your flags got accepted. I believe its one more flag for every 10 successful flags raised

avazula

@Mithrandir In which category VLQ fit? Because flagging the answer only offers NAA, R/A, spam or mod is needed

@Cashbee I know :) I was just joking ahah. I already have a fair amount of them IMHO

doppelgreener

@avazula yeah, can't flag VLQ on a post with a positive score

Mithrandir

@avazula you can flag as NaA, which will also push it into the review queue

Or just wait for it to appear in the queue.

avazula

@doppelgreener Oh, okay! I've flagged it NAA anyway. But nice to know.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:28 AM

The VLQ flag sucks. I love it

It's like a failsafe

flags @Mith's avatar as VLQ

Cashbee

who is serial upvoting my questions xD

avazula

@Cashbee I'm not, but you gave me an idea ahah

A J

closes @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ avatar as duplicate of @doppelgreener :P

Cashbee

2 UV = serial upvoting :D

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ declined. Please only flag vlq stuff with less pixels than that :P

doppelgreener

9:30 AM

@AJ hahaha! :D

it's true, we are both green rocks. (though MAR has some other colors going on there.)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@AJ haha OK you win

@doppelgreener I'm not a rock

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ no? :O

A dodecahedrane

@Cashbee Shit, I've already UV your posts

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:32 AM

@avazula that'd induce cancer

Cashbee

@avazula what a pity, huh

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'm already in terminal phase of lazyness cancer

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir I don't wanna turn on VPN to see the image because I bet it's the whiny little girl in your avatar

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I swear it's not

Mithrandir

@avazula BTW, you may want to consider toning down the language a bit - while we don't rigorously stamp down on all instances of language, we do generally encourage a more professional atmosphere.

avazula

9:34 AM

@Mithrandir Oh, sorry. noticed.

Mithrandir

No worries.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir bureaucrat

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You need to work on your insults. ;)

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ He's not. Let's just keep this room full of flowers, sunshine and rainbows so that hopefully more people will be comfortable chatting here :D

avazula

@Tinkeringbell I do like rainbows and flowers.

Cashbee

9:37 AM

@Tinkeringbell you forgot unicorns. never forget the unicorns.

3

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

About that, I don't get why this chat should have a more professional atmosphere than, say, Arqade's chat

Tinkeringbell

@Cashbee Ugh! I'm a bad moderator :P

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

It's not like SO

A few poops and shits here and there couldn't hurt

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Honestly? People mention chat being scary a lot. Seeing a lot of rough language and crude jokes won't invite people to say hi!

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ A semi-professional atmosphere is expected as a blanket rule across SE, including chat.

Cashbee

9:38 AM

I think a well mannered etiquette fits the official IPS chat nicely

3

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

No F words though. Think about the children. Think about @Mith :p

@Tinkeringbell No dirty jokes of course

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'm a Charcoaler, I've seen the worst of the worst.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

If it gets in the way of chat being welcoming, sure

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ no rough ones either! So, joking about cancer isn't really welcoming I'd say

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir I know man, I'm messing with you

@Tinkeringbell Ultra Violet radiation is no joke

Tinkeringbell

9:41 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ This site is kinda struggling with the amount of users it has and how to reach them... There's just so few that talk in chat, considering the amount of people posting...

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Tinkeringbell that's not news, every site is like that

Mithrandir

31

A: Are expletives allowed in SE chat?

These questions always puzzle me a bit; they never come up because someone's conflicted about how they should communicate - they're always attached in some fashion to the notion that there should be limits on how other people should be interpreting what you've written: I'm simply talking abou...

avazula

@Tinkeringbell I'm sorry, I started that. I just learned one of my aunts has cancer, so it was an opportunity to downplay it. But I agree I shouldn't have done that.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

The real intimidation of posting in chat comes from the feeling of noobness the poster themselves impose upon them, before seeing any content in chat

That, or the feeling they'd waste too much time, in case of adults with a job

Cashbee

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ In that case, they never click the link to the chat and wouldn't see its contents anyway

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:44 AM

@Mithrandir Funny, now I'm on the expletives side? No way.

doppelgreener

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ So, on this -- RPG.SE's General Chat has had this thing going for a few years where we aim to keep things relatively serene, avoid insults, and discourage rudeness and causticness. It makes the place an open and welcoming atmosphere for all comers -- materially, as well. We receive people who vocally acknowledge it feels like a safe haven compared to a lot of other places, and it enables us to deal with sensitive topics calmly and nonconfrontatinoally.

Mithrandir

So I just removed 112 issues of "The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction" from on top of a bookshelf where I have added board and bricks to make more shelves, and now suddenly it's very wobbly without all that weight.

This is absolutely not an attempt to change the subject.

doppelgreener

Our perspective is that when people are regularly making joking jabs and swearing, the tension and confrontation level of the room is raised to a higher norm than it otherwise would be. That means when a sensitive topic comes up, we are already starting that discussion from a higher point of tension and escalation, wherein swearing at people is fine -- and that's a great way to see a discussion escalate out of control into a flame war almost immediately.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cashbee exactly, and I'm saying that's the real scare. I've never seen any chat be scary for its content, unless they're being submissive to effies and dirty stuff

doppelgreener

By dint of that practice, we've been able to have prolonged calm discussions on topics of sexuality, religion, gender identity, and politics.

Tinkeringbell

9:47 AM

@Mithrandir I guess that belongs on physics though? I have no idea how gravity and stability work :)

Mithrandir

@doppelgreener You also have BESW, which makes a big difference ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@doppelgreener I feel like we're all confirming just the same things

doppelgreener

@Mithrandir BESW is the one who prompted us to begin exploring this practice, and it was fairly helpful.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Oh, but the most major reason people don't visit chat is they don't find it

doppelgreener

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ yup

Cashbee

9:48 AM

@doppelgreener one or two weeks ago we had a real nice discussion about racism in here. That would definitely not have been possible without a very nice etiquette

doppelgreener

i've had even long-term users on RPG.SE go "wait, there's a chat!?" or someone who kept seeing "this discussion has been moved to chat" comments on posts so they knew there was one but never actually dropped by.

@Cashbee oh good!!

that's excellent

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@doppelgreener so what I was basically saying was there was almost nothing to tone down in Avazula's messages up there. It wasn't there yet, the degree of dirty jokes and unwelcoming atmosphere

This feels pretty much concluded now

It was fun to be in the anti-moderation camp for a bit

Cashbee

"unwelcoming atmosphere" is relative. I could imagine that older people would not call it welcoming, when users use curse words like sh*t

while for younger folks usually these curse words make it more welcoming

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I'm usually the Nazi-GodwinLaw-Downrate-censorship type ;)

avazula

@Cashbee I'm not familiar with non-vulgar swears in English. I'm mostly learning it with series. Would shoot fit better?

(Please answer quickly so I can edit if it doesn't fit ahah)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:53 AM

@Cashbee true that

@avazula yep, or "dang"

Dang is so dang safe

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ "Dang"? Didn't know this one. Thanks, and sorry for everything.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

"darn" is sometimes safe, sometimes not, although it's supposed to be a less vulgar form of "damn"

Mithrandir

D'Arvit, what have I started.

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir A lesson in innocent swears ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula nothing to be sorry for. The last 30 minutes was a summary session to reaffirm what we already know

Tinkeringbell

9:56 AM

Pancake

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir you're patient zero

Tinkeringbell

I like pancake.. it also makes reading posts on rpg more fun

avazula

@Tinkeringbell In my language, the most polite way to say "shoot" would be saperlipopette! Which would definitely be Mary Poppins' favorite swear

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Tinkeringbell RPG?

I read rants on meta.SO with junk food

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ yeah.. they use the abbreviations PC and NPC... Pancake and not pancakes :P

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

9:58 AM

@Tinkeringbell haha it's obviously Personal Computer

Tinkeringbell

@avazula 'sapperdeflap' .. although that's kinda childish and very old fashioned

avazula

@Tinkeringbell is this Dutch?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Supper the flap? That does sound like swearing

Tinkeringbell

@avazula yes :)

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ not supper :) sapper :P

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Okay! I've tried to learn Dutch once upon a time :) but the pronounciation was so hard for me!

Tinkeringbell

9:59 AM

@avazula I get that feedback from a lot of people

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula you were not worthy to wield Dutch phonemes

avazula

@Tinkeringbell But you shouldn't consider those of French people, we're terrible at learning languages, and for most of us, not very willing to improve

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Not many people are

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ It'd appear so, because @Tinkeringbell thought so!

Tinkeringbell

@avazula practice makes perfect ;)

I can't pronounce a lot of the French words correctly either

avazula

10:01 AM

@Tinkeringbell That's true! Plus many Dutch people speak a beautiful French!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula No kidding; French statistically have the highest percentage of monolinguals in population in Europe

Tinkeringbell

@avazula most people get 3-6 years of French in highschool

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

That's definitely a word

Tinkeringbell

But I'm out of practice

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

French, to me, is like this: Heauraeua is "Hi"

They have so many letters not to pronounce

Tinkeringbell

10:03 AM

Bonjour! Je m'appelle Tink, j'ai 26 ans et j'habite aux Pays-Bas

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Yep.

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Bonjour Tink! Je suis Marie, j'ai 22 ans et j'habite en France :)

Mithrandir24601

@Tinkeringbell If you've ever been to physics chat, it won't take you long to find out that we actually talk about food quite a lot, as opposed to, say, physics

Tinkeringbell

I believe I could do directions too, once upon a time :P

avazula

That is perfect actually

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:04 AM

It's like they're mocking the writing system

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yup, true that. Government actually wants to change our writing system because it's so hard to be good at French spelling

Tinkeringbell

@avazula Don't ask me to say it out loud though!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

English is awesome

It's like language salad

And salad is healthy

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir24601 Hmmm! Foooood. I'm going to score some in a few minutes :)

avazula

@Tinkeringbell I'm waiting for my colleagues to leave to eat my fajitas

Tinkeringbell

10:06 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ nah, I don't eat healthy stuff

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I had a Iranian pal while studying in Hungary. He was speaking a beautiful English.

Tinkeringbell

Not on Fridays

Mithrandir24601

@Tinkeringbell Love food :) I'm planning on making some super-fancy burgers tonight :)

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Cheat meal!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula my English is much more beautiful than his

Tinkeringbell

10:07 AM

@Mithrandir24601 Nice!

Mithrandir24601

Last week I made penne pugliese, which was mind-blowingly amazing :)

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ But is your modesty too? (kidding)

@Mithrandir24601 Do you know pasta i fagioli ? It's amazing as well!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula yeah that's doing alright too

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I speak English heel erg well... Not yet so snel, But dat komt nog wel :P

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Wow, Dutchglish!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:08 AM

@Tinkeringbell don't talk while eating

Mithrandir24601

@avazula No actually... I'll look it up, thanks!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Oh, right.

Unhealthy eating habits

avazula

@Mithrandir24601 It's the simplest and tastiest Italian dish. Amazing :)

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Hey you were the one asking for a language salad!

Mithrandir24601

@avazula Definitely got to try it sometime then :D

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:10 AM

We're gonna have pizzas for lunch . . . Erm, dinnerlunch

avazula

@Mithrandir24601 Be aware, the best recipes are in Italian ... But if you're familiar with latin languages, it should be okay. With the pictures I get almost everything :D

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula since I'm always and unapologetically in kidding mode, you should never give kidding with me a second thought

That's the first law of thermodynamics

The real first law

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I won't tell you the grade I got in TD, but it was terrible

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

The other first laws, if any, are made in China.

And cheaply made

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Isn't that an insult towards Chinese?

Then another awkward silence. True that you're good ad it, @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ :D

(Should I say kidding, just to get you mad?)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

10:14 AM

@avazula Iranian importers always import the worst possible products for the highest possible profit, and cheap stuff made in China has made it to our pop culture as the epitome of cheapness

@avazula MAR is typing, dangit

avazula

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Sorry not sorry, too slow you've bee

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

IPS Comment Bot

I'd really like to upvote this for linking to that previous answer, that was a great call I remember that answer and feel its one of the most useful things on autism I've ever read. But I worry that your first paragraph advice conflicts with that answer in that it send s a mixed message that if only they had things in common again they could be friends... when they can't, so could leave the former friend trying to clear a bar that he never can. Also in comments @Scoots said that the ex-friend reached out over the Steam platform, which suggests they do still have leisure interests in common. — Spagirl 35 secs ago

#13375 Spagirl (9670 rep) | A: Rebuffing a former friend's (now a convicted criminal) attempts to restore friendship (score: 4) | posted 20 hours ago by Jak (139 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]

IPS Comment Bot

10:48 AM

Just a thought. Craigslist has a reputation for allowing adverts without any kind of protection, leading to issues with abuse, drug deals, stolen goods, etc. - My advice is to record, or at least write down, anything which happens with this person, in case proof is needed later. There's no reason to assume that every Craigslist user is deceptive in any way, but it's safer to allow for the possibility that they might. — AJFaraday 27 secs ago

#13402 AJFaraday (141 rep) | Q: How can I politely ask the gender of a potential roommate via email? (score: 14) | posted 13 hours ago by (deleted user) | edited 1 hours ago by Bilkokuya (1385 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["just\\W?(a|this)\\W?(comment|thought)"]

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:08 AM

@IPSCommentBot tp

Or whatever feedback you guys use

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Flag the comment as no-longer-needed, that's the feedback :P

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Tinkeringbell so IPS comment bot has no idea whether what it caught is fish?

That is . . . Incomplete

How do you plan to improve the regexes and stuff?

Extroverted Main Man

0

Q: Establishing expectations with my parents about visiting after I give birth

I'm 8 months pregnant. I'm also an introvert who really doesn't cope well with change and stress. TL:DR: My mom is very outgoing and I need to talk to her about expectations when she visits me at the hospital. There will be times when I won't want visitors, even though I am fine/not sick and t...

Cashbee

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ we will improve them to be the best. They will be tremendous, believe me. It is kind of complicated but we have our best people on it and they work hard. It's gonna be one of the best regexes you have ever seen, if not the best. Believe me.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Cashbee for president

Stacey

11:16 AM

Is my question too verbose? Should I cut out the verbose version entirely? ^^

Cashbee

TL;DR

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Stacey I would make a TLDR for the TLDR

Cashbee

yes, it is quite long. I have read until the goals, then I stopped. While there is no rule (I think) against posting long questions, I would recommend shortening it to its core, so more users will actually read your Q

Mithrandir

Then again, background info can be useful.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I recommend a TLDR consisting of a few sentences, and the TLDR header emboldened

Mithrandir

11:20 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ manual eyeballing

Stacey

Ok. Will refine it

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir well that sucks

Cashbee

background info is almost always useful here, but there must be a way to cut some paragraphs out without losing the informational aspect

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Do you know Ruby?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir yeah, really nice guy

Too bad he wants to commit suicide on rails

Cashbee

11:21 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ hahahaha

A J

hahaha

Mithrandir

eyeroll

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I'm not a programmer, Mith, but you could probably get other Shadow's Den folks do it

Mithrandir

Huh, Ruby has been used as a male name at times. TIL.

Well, Evelyn used to be a male name, so I guess it's not too surprising.

Cashbee

ruby ruby ruby ruby, aa-aa-aaaaaaah

Mithrandir

11:25 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ or we could still with how it is ;)

Stacey

ok, edited massively

avazula

@Mithrandir I know the programming language ...

@Stacey Indeed... That's impressive ._.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir which is lame

Stacey

@avazula it's easier to start with lots and chop it to pieces

I can always roll back bits

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Wow

That's something

avazula

11:28 AM

@Stacey I agree! Even for people who edit, that's easier for not to misunderstand your POV

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Well, feel free to raise issues on github and/or ping the actual developer of the bot if you have a feature request

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

You increased the likeliness of reading it by 2676 percent

IPS Comment Bot

@AllTheKingsHorses Thanks for the feedback. I agree and did plan to include that on the first edit, but then realised I didn't have any specific suggestions by then. Still working on it. :) — Paula Hasstenteufel 24 secs ago

#13386 Paula Hasstenteufel (471 rep) | A: How to talk to family member about their spending? (score: 9) | posted 20 hours ago by Paula Hasstenteufel (471 rep) | edited 20 hours ago by Paula Hasstenteufel (471 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir erm, Pheo?

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ absolutely not

avazula

11:29 AM

@Stacey Are you gonna punch me if I try an anwser with nonviolent communication?

(I feel like 80% of my answers on this site are about NVC)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir who's Absolutely Not?

avazula

(The 20% other being about the 5 love languages) ahah

Mithrandir

thesecretmaster ♦, United States

3k 2 9 42

lesson-ideas web-development teaching-analogy high-school curriculum-design best-practice front-end

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Or is it Absolutely Nut?

Cashbee

@Stacey Have you been like this (introvert) for all your life? (Is your mother aware that you are an introvert?)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:29 AM

@Mithrandir well, in my defense, it was a secret

Stacey

@Cashbee yes, and yes, but I don't think she realises to what extent I'm an introvert

Cashbee

you might want to edit that info into your Q

Stacey

I haven't lived with my parents for >10 years, so when she sees me I talk a lot to her

Cashbee

I think that is very relevant for potential answers

Stacey

because it's like for a weekend, then I recover for the next week

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:31 AM

@thesecretmaster can the comment bot have feedbacks and stuff? Well, just feedbacks, not the stuff. There's currently no other way than @Mith's eyeballs to track how well the bot detects stuff

@Mith I really hope @Mith24601 is your sock

Cashbee

this stack sure has a FGITW-syndrome

staceys Q already has an answer

and not a too bad one either

Stacey

what does FGITW mean?

Cashbee

fastest gun in the west

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Stacey people competing with speedy answers

avazula

@Cashbee It really does have

I'm having an issue right there

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:34 AM

I.e. sacrificing quality for speed in order to get more upvotes

avazula

There's a user who keeps posting VLQ answers with little to no explanation

I think I've commented all of their answers before it gets deleted, but they keep publishing VLQ answers

Idk what to do to help them either improve their answers or stop doing this

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula if it gets too annoying, mod message would be justified

@avazula help? HELP? Are you here to help people?!

Richard U

why help people?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Burninate with extreme prejudice

Mithrandir24601

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ nope :P and the @Mith24601 doesn't ping me either

Richard U

11:37 AM

Helping people is a secondary function of this site

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir24601 I think every time I ping you, it pings them too

@RichardU well, jokes aside, it's complicated.

avazula

@RichardU I'm new on this chat so you may not be aware that I don't get ironic sentences, so could you please tell me whether your sentence is indeed ironic? ^^

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

We're building a repository of knowledge to help people, and that's the ultimate goal.

Richard U

@avazula it is and it isn't

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

And we just don't allow helping one person get in the way of that

Richard U

11:39 AM

@avazula ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mithrandir24601

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I get pings for 'Mith' but not 'Mithrandir'

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Mithrandir24601 what dark magic is this?

avazula

feels the urge of ragequitting

Tinkeringbell

@avazula raising a custom mod flag is preferred over discussing stuff like that in chat

Stacey

@Mithrandir24601 there are two of you O_o

avazula

11:40 AM

@Tinkeringbell Okay, I'll do this.

Richard U

@avazula The point is, if we put the focus on helping people, we actually don't help at all

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Can I put my previous messages in the chat bin?

Mithrandir24601

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I'd guess that it's something to do with using the full username probably gets converted to and from the user ID or something?

@Stacey it appears so :P

Tinkeringbell

@avazula Nah, it's not that bad, just a regular reminder ;)

Richard U

@avazula we are actually fairly friendly.

avazula

11:42 AM

@Tinkeringbell Ok. Isn't it a chat set of rules somewhere, that I can read to get the functioning better?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@avazula there are some folks complaining every now and then on meta.SO that their tutorial questions are valid and they're a noob in [insert technology] and so they don't know what to search, and they're responded to with "we're not a help desk. SO doesn't want to help people get their tomorrow's homework done or stuff like that. It wants to help people by building a repository of knowledge"

thesecretmaster

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Whenever I have time, I'll try. Currently I've got 8 hours of free time a day, and I use those for sleeping :)

Richard U

@avazula The Workplace has similar problems. People want resume reviews, want to vent, rant, and get validation. we don't do any of that

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

When stuff gets weird and you want to philosophize, meta.SO is the place to go

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ how long do you think a question like "How do I write a For-Next Loop" laston SO?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:45 AM

@RichardU years if it's not caught?

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ ROFL!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@thesecretmaster Good grief. You photosynthesize?

Unless you eat in your sleep

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Back when Tech Republic didn't suck, we got people looking for acivation codes. I provided interesting responses. They didn't get that I was writing in 1337 speak.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I only breathe in my sleep. Admittedly, it doesn't cut it.

Unless the air is full of breadcrumbs

thesecretmaster

I usually eat while in transit. I'll be free-er in 2 weeks or so, and then I'll hopefully get through the backlog of ipscommentbot stuff that I need to work on.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:48 AM

@thesecretmaster that's 6-8 weeks

@RichardU people never get things. That's why I downvote them

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ well, in that case, all of the other hackers got it, just not the thief.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@thesecretmaster Bots are a headache. We never got our Chemobot up and running again

@RichardU ethical hackers

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Ethical, but no less mischievous.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@RichardU hey, I have all your passwords, but I never did anything with them, okay?

So harsh

Richard U

LOL!

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ yeah, when someone forgets a password, they're much less concerned about whether or not you're a hacker

I FORGOT MY LOGIN!!!! HAAAAAAAAAALP!!!

LOL

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

11:55 AM

I have a gmail account with a forgotten password that has some 1500 unread emails

@RichardU ha, the amount of hacker spam we have to clean up

Do you want to hack your lost loved one's gmail account?

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ back oh, that's LOW.

I know a few people who would take a rather dim view on that.

and then act

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@RichardU well, the other day, a hacker wanted to help Undo hack the pagers of the company he doesn't like

@RichardU if you have a dim view of a hole in front of you, you'd just fall right into it I guess

Richard U

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh, I thought you meant that that one was real.

You should see some of the spam TWP gets

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