The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

Ixrec

22:00

and she tried to read the book in the bathroom for the second task

which is when her mother started bleeding

Napoleon Wilson

I wonder if it's really just about a little girl escaping into any kind of fantasy or if all those quests are specifically related to her real life.

Ixrec

the whole premise of the fantasy story is that her father was important in this kingdom, so that's a big relation

Edlothiad

I hate this scene

Napoleon Wilson

Ah.

Ixrec

I think the rest of it is effectively making it up as she goes

actually no this feast might be a metaphor for the rationing

DaaaahWhoosh

22:02

@NapoleonWilson the toad in the tree could've been her little brother killing her mother

Ixrec

or the dinner table from earlier

Napoleon Wilson

Oh.

Ixrec

considering where this guy is sitting

is that the same fireplace even?

Napoleon Wilson

Oh, the hands guy.

Ixrec

someone's seen The Last Crusade

doppelgreener

22:03

the handy man

Edlothiad

Oof that thing is forking ugly

doppelgreener

hecks ugly

charisma dump stat

followed by epic charisma damage

followed by ugly stick and curse of ugly

Ixrec

hm, so what is the symbolic purpose of this creature having its eyes not on its head

Edlothiad

What did she do?

Ixrec

she ate a grape

doppelgreener

22:05

she ate a grape

Ixrec

jinx

doppelgreener

after being warned to touch absolutely none of the food

Edlothiad

It's got man boobs

Napoleon Wilson

Yeah, great. Kids!

Ixrec

Run you idiot!

hm, he ate exactly two faeries...like those two innocents the Captain killed earlier?

I may be overthinking this

Napoleon Wilson

22:06

But well, I guess she's hungry, with evil real life and all that.

Edlothiad

I hate this

DaaaahWhoosh

@Ixrec I'd say keep an eye out for the Captain using his hands. He took his glove off to test the fire in the forest that one time

doppelgreener

sorry haha :D

creepy scene

Ixrec

oh that's a good point

the faun's gonna be annoyed that you got two of his faeries eaten

Edlothiad

This is why they need to teach pull ups in gym class

Napoleon Wilson

22:07

Don't they already?

Edlothiad

I never learnt to do a pull up

where did you go to school? The military?

Napoleon Wilson

There's not too much to learn, though. It's pretty much a strength thing. ;-)

Ixrec

I'd never be able to do a pull up

Napoleon Wilson

But...uh...we totally had that in sports lessons.

DaaaahWhoosh

@Ixrec oh yeah, and that one time when he met the mother, he put his hand on her stomach to feel the baby

Napoleon Wilson

22:09

I just wasn't very good at it, because, well, strength.

Ixrec

@DaaaahWhoosh so far these are fairly innocuous things anyone would use their hands for, so I'm not convinced just yet

Napoleon Wilson

@Edlothiad Did you really not do that in sports lessons in school?

Ixrec

fortunately the Harry Potter mandrake rules don't apply here

they never asked us to do pull ups

ok, definitely only interested in the son

DaaaahWhoosh

I'm suddenly hungry for some mandrake cereal

doppelgreener

During WWII, the Spanish dictator Franco dreamed of a united Spain -- which in his eyes meant one homogenous culture, which in turn meant crushing every non-compliant culture so they could share just the one in the name of unity. Many people did not like this and resisted, and there were a great many atrocities performed by Franco in the name of unification.

I believe that's the background of the rebels in this story.

Napoleon Wilson

22:12

Well, yeah.

Ixrec

there's probably some irony in the unborn child being influenced by Ofelia more than the captain because of her stories

it's a trap!

ah, and now he knows she was helping them

looks up what pistol that is

DaaaahWhoosh

mauser?

Ixrec

ah I was right, it is a Luger

Napoleon Wilson

They look quite characteristic.

Ixrec

had to check since I thought the Lugers were a German-only thing

Napoleon Wilson

22:16

I wouldn't wonder if they got them from them.

Ixrec

indeed

but the Spanish might've had their own similar-looking officer pistol for all I know

Napoleon Wilson

Sure.

Ixrec

for those who haven't seen the film before, I think this is the most gruesome bit coming up

fair warning

doppelgreener

IMFDB page for Pan's Labyrinth for those interested in the firearms

Ixrec

ah no there is another cut before it

Napoleon Wilson

22:17

Oh.

Ixrec

well you saw where that was going

Babelfish

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Q: Did this character steal this other chacter's body?

In Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2, a series of events at the end of the movie seem odd and, when taken together over several viewings, make it seem that. Here are the events: Rocket re-assembles Yondu's arrow skillfully enough that another character is able to control the arrow. Then, ...

doppelgreener

@Ixrec thank you for the warning, it was long enough ago I don't remember these things

Ixrec

I completely forgot about the face bashing at the beginning but I remembered this upcoming scene, so...yeah

Napoleon Wilson

Hmm, I'm getting more and more excited.

Edlothiad

22:18

@NapoleonWilson Nah we just played sports

Napoleon Wilson

Well, we too. Depended on the season, I guess.

Edlothiad

Well no real seasons, we played sports all year round

I mean I've always been strong enough to do a pull up, but yeah

Ixrec

I've completely forgotten what we actually see him do to the poor guy here, but I strongly remembe not liking it.

Napoleon Wilson

We did all kinds of stuff. Gymnastics, athletics, strength stuff, and the occasional team sports game.

DaaaahWhoosh

just want to point out, contrary to most movies, torture doesn't actually seem to work

Ixrec

22:21

well, yeah, you're just as likely to get made up information as real information

Napoleon Wilson

Sure.

Edlothiad

Why's he stuttering so hard?

Ixrec

not sure if he's injured or cold or what

DaaaahWhoosh

@Edlothiad it's his only established character trait

Edlothiad

That he stutters?

DaaaahWhoosh

22:22

yeah, there was a scene earlier where he stuttered. And someone mentioned it.

Ixrec

your essence is impure!

well, no, it was definitely not an accident

Edlothiad

Well my first school shut down because it was a shit hole. And our sports teacher was just like "Choose a sport, make 2 teams and play"

Second school just did sports

Napoleon Wilson

Oh.

Edlothiad

yeah

was fun though

Ixrec

what was the significance of comparing those two vials just now?

DaaaahWhoosh

22:25

@Ixrec he's the rat

Ixrec

clearly he knows the doctor's a rebel now but I'm not clear how that gave it away

DaaaahWhoosh

they found the vial in the forest, and they found it in his stuff

Jolenealaska

Well, one was not full...

Ixrec

ah

oh she really did put a mandrake under the bed

DaaaahWhoosh

I don't get why he'd be angry about it

at best, it helps. At worst, it smells bad

Ixrec

22:28

the timing of that is very interesting though

Napoleon Wilson

Well, he's an asshole, and she did kids stuff.

Ixrec

actually no she probably got sick again right then just be because she was stressed by the captain freaking out about the mandrake and she got out of bed

Napoleon Wilson

Or it was the mandrake, dun dun duuun!

Ixrec

yeah I was gonna say that seems like one of the few signs that it's all real

but nope, still ambiguous

so what I'm wondering is why her fantasy narrative had Pan abandon her earlier, basically ending that story for the time being

Edlothiad

Ok I got to go, enjoy the film!

doppelgreener

22:32

oh no!!! Bye Edlothiad!

Napoleon Wilson

Goo' byesns!

Ixrec

bye

right, he found the lock unlocked earlier so that's why he's called her here now

wow, I forgot she wanted to run away so badly she was willing to leave her mother behind

DaaaahWhoosh

whose mother?

Ixrec

Ofelia's

DaaaahWhoosh

the dead one?

Napoleon Wilson

22:35

Earlier that is?

Ixrec

right, duh, I got mixed up a bit there

famous last words

lol he still has that lottery ticket!

Napoleon Wilson

Drgh, why's he still alive?

Ixrec

of course, now that she has literally no one else left he comes back

DaaaahWhoosh

so she ran so far, that no one heard all those gunshots?

also, AAAAAAAAHHHH

Ixrec

yeah not looking directly at the screen for this one

I assume they assumed those gunshots were of the officers shooting the woman

DaaaahWhoosh

22:43

oh, I guess that kind of makes sense

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DaaaahWhoosh

yesterday, by DaaaahWhoosh

wonder womaaaaaan!

Ixrec

I get that sewing your own face back together is super manly, but drinking alcohol ten seconds later seems like a really stupid move

Napoleon Wilson

@Ixrec Yeah, like in Cliffhanger. ;-)

DaaaahWhoosh

@Ixrec really stupid moves are also super manly

Ixrec

22:45

masculinity is weird

...oh, that exact stupidity is useful, nice

Napoleon Wilson

Hmm, I totally missed what Pan actually wanted her to do.

Ixrec

he wanted her to go somewhere, and take her brother with her

I think it was the labyrinth

Napoleon Wilson

Ah, well, I assume that's what she wanted to do anyway.

Ixrec

indeed

DaaaahWhoosh

oh, hey, the Shining

Ixrec

22:49

dude, having a son's not gonna matter much if the rebels wipe out literally all of your men back there and then come for you

shouldn't you be focused on that fight?

personally, this guy scares me way more than the dude from the Shining

DaaaahWhoosh

he doesn't have enough blood left to think rationally

Ixrec

yeah I totally believe the Captain would do this

Napoleon Wilson

Oh, so it's about her inner struggle to care for her brother whilst him being the cause for her mother's death (and an incarnation of his evil father afterall).

Ixrec

ah, you're right, that's probably part of this too

Napoleon Wilson

Yeah, crap, and Ophelia's dead? :'(

Ixrec

22:56

yes ;_;

doppelgreener

;_;

the end ;_;

Ixrec

at least her brother lived

Napoleon Wilson

Hmpf, sure.

Ixrec

silver lining!

Napoleon Wilson

Nice movie, though.

DaaaahWhoosh

22:58

huh, last time I saw this I thought the fantasy stuff actually happened. Now I'm less sure

I wonder if that means something

doppelgreener

@DaaaahWhoosh same, but i'm still more sure it did than sure it didn't

Ixrec

The first time I saw this I was on the fence about whether the fantasy stuff was real until right at the end, then when I saw Ofelia's death I was convinced it was just a fantasy.

Napoleon Wilson

I knew beforehand that it was a "message film" about real stuffs, but it did feature much more real world than I expected.

Ixrec

yeah, the first time around I was paying way more attention to the fantasy bits

doppelgreener

same, though the first time around i was, like, 16 or 17 maybe

DaaaahWhoosh

23:01

maybe it's a metaphor. The more you look at something, the more you see past the magic, until you're convinced there was never any magic at all

Ixrec

I think that just speaks to how the film was great overall, so it's still good no matter what I happen to be paying the most attention to.

Napoleon Wilson

Sure.

DaaaahWhoosh

@Ixrec yeah, I didn't really think that could happen with films

Napoleon Wilson

o_O

Ixrec

This time around for instance I was much more conscious of the fact that Ofelia knows exactly what's going on around her. I wasn't sure the first time if she had any idea why all these terrible things were happening.

doppelgreener

23:04

Thank you all for watching this with me. :)

& I hope you enjoyed it

Napoleon Wilson

You're welcome. ;-P

Ixrec

it was a great choice

Napoleon Wilson

'nneed.

doppelgreener

thank you! :D

Ixrec

so @doppelgreener gets to choose the theme for the next one, right?

Napoleon Wilson

23:06

Oh, so it was his suggestion?

Ixrec

yeah, just double-checked

Napoleon Wilson

I thought it was the time lord guy.

Ixrec

Gallifreyan? close, he nominated Nausicaa so he chose the "dark fantasy" theme

Napoleon Wilson

Ah. Well, that would have been a nice choice, too. But I've already seen that not too long ago.

Edlothiad

23:19

@Napoleon, that's the one we watched last month.

Napoleon Wilson

Ah, I see.

So he suggested that and then picked this theme.

doppelgreener

& right now I'm trying to think of themes that don't conjure up only like, two or three movies. :D

maybe Western. 🤠

Napoleon Wilson

Best Supporting role in a Columbus film?

@doppelgreener Should be on-topic, though.

Maybe a space Western.

doppelgreener

@NapoleonWilson ... Western With A Twist? 🤠🌀

Fantasy Western or Scifi Western, as long as it's not Plain Western

Napoleon Wilson

...like Outland.

Hmm, I'm sure people would just want to watch a bunch of Firefly episodes then.

There was also some semi-interesting Korean thing I watched on TV a few years ago.

Or semi-Korean maybe (still not full-interesting, though) ;-)

Ixrec

23:24

Cowboys and Aliens =P

Napoleon Wilson

Or that.

Ixrec

(I actually liked that film but apparently no one can agree on whether it's any good or not)

Napoleon Wilson

Well, it's a nice movie for sure.

It's pretty much what it says, not more but also not less. And the main actors are cool.

And the whole gold-craving aliens thing was a nice allegory, even if maybe a little in your face.

doppelgreener

I have decided on a theme: Robots. That's got a lot of breadth to it but it's focused enough people can think of a thing.

Ixrec

yeah that sounds solid

Napoleon Wilson

23:32

That's...original. ;-P

Ixrec

I immediately thought of Ex Machina

well, "post-apocalyptic" and "dark fantasy" aren't exactly original =P

Napoleon Wilson

Yeah, I'm not too serious, it's super fine.

doppelgreener

:)

Ixrec

do replicants count as robots? =D

Napoleon Wilson

I'm sure they do. Though, that movie always left it a little ambiguous what they're really made of.

I think there was quite a suggestion that a large deal of biology was involved, too.

I might add in aspects from the (quite good) adventure game into that, though.

doppelgreener

23:41

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Babelfish

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Children story about astronauts discover hostile living skeletons on the moon, possibly pirates. The astronauts kill the skeletons with air

story-identification short-stories

Marvin

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The theme of July's movie night will be: Robots! Your film should significantly involve, or be about, robots. At least one of them. Possibly, but not necessarily, giant robots. Cyborgs & organic robots will be counted, since there's fuzzy grey area I'd rather us be able to explore there. I'll le...

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