The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

Skooba

20:05

@Babelfish are teenages considered children?

Adamant

@Skooba ;-=

Skooba

needs more tags :P

Adamant

Have they reached the designated stage of adulthood?

Have they fully matured?

I would say no.

Therefore they are children.

Ah, look:

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Q: How come Snape and Lily have the same patronus

Why is Serverus Snape's patrons the same as Lily Potter, Are snape and lily related somehow?....Is Snape and Harry related?

Good question.

Skooba

@Adamant yes definitely not adults. probably more like pupa

Gallifreyan

@Adamant Downvoted and left a comment. Troll?

Skooba

20:17

for better or worse.... answered

Adamant

@Gallifreyan I don’t know. I tend to think we should assume good faith until proven otherwise.

Not everyone is as obsessed as we are.

user132126

Or, not everyone has finished the works when they ask questions, and plenty of new people are reading/watching HP every day.

Gallifreyan

@Adamant Is reading the book an obsession now?

But there's no way they didn't know that doe is Snape's patronus unless they read/saw the scene where Dumbledore and Snape talk about it.

user132126

Enjoy my latest meta, @Adamant, lol

user132126

I feel like putting all my recent tag answers on hold until my question goes somewhere

Gallifreyan

20:22

Or am I confusing something?

Adamant

@Gallifreyan They might not have finished the book, or understood what they read.

Gallifreyan

IT'S THE ONLY GOOD SCENE IN THE FILMS!

After all this time? Always.

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Adamant

Or watched the films....

user132126

@Gallifreyan That sounds right. I was trying to remember after I said that if it was discussed elsewhere later, but it's been awhile since I've watched/read that

user132126

Maybe they fell asleep.

Babelfish

20:28

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Q: How come Snape and Lily have the same patronus?

Why is Serverus Snape's patronus the same as Lily Potter's? Are Snape and Lily related somehow? Are Snape and Harry related?

harry-potter severus-snape patronus-charm

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Q: What qualifies as a demon?

In Buffy, you see hundreds of things referred to as "demons" or "demonic", and many other hings (Trolls, Werewolves, Witches, etc) are not. But what actually counts as a demon in the Buffyverse?

buffy-the-vampire-slayer demons

Marvin

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Q: Can we just admit that story-identification breaks our normal tagging conventions?

There have been a number of discussions on tags where it seems like the *-identification questions simply throw a wrench into the works. Genre tags, media tags, oddball topics/genre hybrids like super-hero and post-apocalyptic. There's any number of tags that don't necessarily stand up to scruti...

discussion tags

Gallifreyan

@Marvin @CreationEdge LOL :D

Ixrec

@Gallifreyan my thoughts exactly

user132126

20:45

Hopefully it goes somewhere because I feel like we have the same discussions over and over again about certain types of tags.

Babelfish

21:12

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Q: What was this object at the end of an episode of The Flash?

Potential Spoilers Ahead! At the end of Season 3 Episode 21, Team Flash has successfully However, a couple of them mention that it will need a huge power source to work. As the show fades out, Barry looks wistfully? knowingly? off to the side and the last view that watchers get is of: Wha...

the-flash-2014

Axelord

21:39

@Catija The end result in Mos is exactly why that attitude exists, and should continue to exist. If you felt that flagging wasn't a bad idea, with a roll of the dice to see if this time it's all going south, you wouldn't bother trying to talk people out of lines of discourse. Which you do, consistently. Talking our issues out, rather than risking a SWAT style beatdown, is the adult thing to do. Now, you may be happy playing a constant game of "Don't Wake Daddy" with Shog, but I'm not.

Gǣð ā Wyrd swā hīo scel. See you all on the flip side.

Gallifreyan

@Axelord Don't go :(

@Axelord I didn't see you do any harm, and I enjoyed talking to you. Fare well - I'll be expecting you back.

Axelord

@Gallifreyan Just send him a message. It's open to all who want to be.. not here.

You're a good guy.

Gallifreyan

@Axelord Thanks. Muse is releasing a single tomorrow. Just saying ;)

Catija

@Axelord I'm really sorry that you feel that way. I actually don't know how to respond to that because I don't think that I've ever had the same issues you have. I generally find the rules on SE to be pretty lenient and I haven't had any issues discerning what was appropriate to talk about and what was not. I'm not saying that I'm perfect - no one is - but I've never felt that sense of impending doom, the Sword of Damocles if you will.

Enigma Maitreya

@Catija Ah but I would appreciate a private chat with you to make sure I am not missing something .... just sayin

Catija

21:50

I've been active in chat all over the network and the only rooms I've been in that have any sort of issues at all are Mos and, to a lesser extent, The Screening Room... The other rooms I'm a regular in are very tame and almost never have flags thrown around at all because the regulars in them know what's appropriate and what's not. The last time we interacted, the issue wasn't what you said but your disinclination to change the subject gracefully and move on.

Ixrec

on a less terrifying note, I think I'm finally gonna watch the Aliens 3 "Assembly Cut"

Catija

@EnigmaMaitreya Missing something about what?

Enigma Maitreya

@Ixrec Is that something new? And 3 is my least favorite.

Gallifreyan

@Ixrec There's more than one film?

Enigma Maitreya

@Catija I prefer to not have this conversation in this chat room. If that is not ok with you, then I can live with your choice.

Ixrec

21:53

@EnigmaMaitreya not new, but it's a huge set of changes that apparently takes the movie all the way from being bad to good, or so I hear

Enigma Maitreya

@Ixrec Oh, Ok, then I will give it a watch.

Ixrec

@Gallifreyan the second one is also pretty great =P

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan Meh, Aliens 2 is without doubt the best

The one question I have about Aliens 2 is why did Riply break her tacit agreement with the Queen, when she knew the place was toast

Gallifreyan

I don't remember any of the Alien films. Only Prometheus, which I watched because of Michael Fassbender. And I liked the Alien vs Predator game.

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan I thought for sure the Prometheus series .... oops film would tie the two together.

Babelfish

21:59

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Q: Trying to find the name of a show that I watched on Cartoon Network quite a few years ago

So basically what I remember about the show is that some teenagers (3, I think) were some kind of monks that were able to transform through a device (I don't think that it was a power they were born with) into multiple monsters and could transfer monsters from eachother. I remember some good vs e...

story-identification

Gallifreyan

22:12

NIGHTWISH - Shudder Before The Beautiful (Live @Wembley Arena)

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Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan did you watch this weeks episode of Lucifer? You like the series and manga right?

Gallifreyan

Pan's Labyrinth seems a popular choice. I have no idea how we'll watch it though.

Babelfish

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Q: Comprehensive list of every cyborg film from 1980-1999

Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of every cyborg movie that has come out from 1980-1999?

movie

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya I do not like the TV series. I watched the first ~5 episodes, but didn't like the detective stuff. And clips on YouTube only assured me that I didn't lose anything.

Enigma Maitreya

@Babelfish Oh, now that would be some list

@Gallifreyan Ok, never mind then. :)

Gallifreyan

22:14

I'm reading the comic though, so I'll answer any questions if I'm able :)

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan For what it is worth, yeah your right the Detective shtick is distracting'

Gallifreyan

Oh, a new issue is out! I'll be back in 10 minutes :D

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan The episode had God (Dear Old Dad) show up or maybe it was just some crazy guy with an artifact and I had a question

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya I seem to recall someone else mentioning the TV series here - why don't you ask a question on the site?

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan Is there a link there?

BlueMoon93

22:18

hello friends

Enigma Maitreya

Hello second full moon of the month

BlueMoon93

can any of you find a good version of Who Goes There, by John Campbell? all the ones I find are the same version, and they have typos

@EnigmaMaitreya don't forget the 93 :D

Enigma Maitreya

:)

Catija

@BlueMoon93 amazon.com/Who-Goes-There-Novella-Formed/dp/0982332203

BlueMoon93

Oh, hey Catija

Who Goes There is universal property already atm

(maybe thats not the correct name, its when copyright is expired and the book is free)

Enigma Maitreya

22:21

@BlueMoon93 I could look in the Galaxy monthly's I have I seem to remember it is in one of them.

BlueMoon93

I'm looking for an e-version, but all the ones I find have the same typo (a 'wwent' instead of 'went') and I think I found other typos there ('tie' instead of 'lie'), so I wanted to double check with a diff version

Enigma Maitreya

Did Amazon have a Kindle e-book version?

BlueMoon93

@EnigmaMaitreya talking about the newsletters?

Catija

@BlueMoon93 Public domain.

BlueMoon93

@Catija that!

@EnigmaMaitreya only payed versions, I think

Enigma Maitreya

22:23

@BlueMoon93 Let me do some looking around

BlueMoon93

@EnigmaMaitreya to check if it is the same version i have already, search for "ww". if you find a typo in a word ("wwent"), then its the same

Adamant

@BlueMoon93 Are you looking for only an e-book, then?

BlueMoon93

yeah, anything in digital format

Adamant

You can batch correct e-books on your own.

@BlueMoon93 So an audiobook would work?

BlueMoon93

I can, yes, but I need an original copy somewhere to know what's wrong or not, and i have not a copy of the book

Adamant

22:26

@BlueMoon93 Well, if the typos are ungrammatical....

BlueMoon93

@Adamant in the limit, yes. would be better in text

@Adamant exactly. for instance, there is a part where they talk about a test lying. in the next sentence, they say "it cant be a tie"

Im pretty sure it was just OCR gone wrong, it should've been "it cant be a lie", but I'm not sure

Catija

@BlueMoon93 I don't know that it is in public domain yet? Rules are here: copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm

Gallifreyan

BlueMoon93

@Catija hm I'm basing myself on this guy github.com/roguephysicist/who_goes_there

Catija

Amazon generally sells free versions of books that are public domain. amazon.com/Pride-Prejudice-Jane-Austen-ebook/dp/B008476HBM

BlueMoon93

22:29

He published the book and claims it is already public domain

Gallifreyan

^ (source I'd like us to watch Howl's Moving Castle some day :D

BlueMoon93

Yeah, even Guttenberg usually has those

Enigma Maitreya

@BlueMoon93 Did you check this web site? Meh if it is, just select all copy and paste into a Google Doc or something.

Catija

Campbell died in 1971, so if it follows the usual rules, it'd be in public domain in 2041?

Adamant

I suspect a Google search could easily turn up a scan of the original.

But if it’s not in the public domain, those may not be legal, so not worth touching.

Perhaps someone has republished the original?

If you belong to a university, perhaps you have access to an online version of the magazine it was published in?

Catija

22:32

Oh, wait, I'm looking at the wrong thing. If the copyright was renewed, it'd be 95 years after publication.

Enigma Maitreya

@BlueMoon93 Here is a second one freesfonline.de/authors/John%20W._Campbell.html

BlueMoon93

I cant even find where it was published

Catija

> It was first published in the August 1938 Astounding Science-Fiction.

BlueMoon93

aha!

Catija

Who Goes There?

Who Goes There? is a science fiction novella by John W. Campbell, Jr., written under the pen name Don A. Stuart. It was first published in the August 1938 Astounding Science-Fiction. In 1973, the story was voted by the Science Fiction Writers of America as one of the finest science fiction novellas ever written. It was published with the other top vote-getters in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two. The novella has been adapted four times as a motion picture: the first in 1951 as The Thing from Another World; the second in 1972 as Horror Express; the third asThe Thing directed by John...

BlueMoon93

22:32

@EnigmaMaitreya this is it

Catija

Sorry about all the pings.

Adamant

@EnigmaMaitreya Keep in mind, these may not be legal sources, if the copyright was renewed. Or even if it wasn’t?

BlueMoon93

@Catija I meant I didn't find the actual edition to read it

Adamant

(It was in 1965, I think).

BlueMoon93

this is it guys

hell.pl/szymon/Baen/The%20best%20of%20Jim%20Baens%20Universe/…

and i knew it!

it's "it couldn't lie"

not "it couldn't tie"

great job, thanks, everyone

Gallifreyan

22:36

round of applause

Enigma Maitreya

@BlueMoon93 I assume you were here I could not verify the .pdf's had the spelling error he does say it is type set but ...

BlueMoon93

@EnigmaMaitreya I already checked your link, it's a different version from what I had

Enigma Maitreya

@Adamant It is said to be public domain, I have not verified that assertion

BlueMoon93

and it seems to have fixed the typos the other one had

Enigma Maitreya

@BlueMoon93 Ok, great to be of help

Gallifreyan

22:38

Why the f*ck can't I reach more than one page in a Tumblr search? It's really frustrating, and it's been going on for some time, working one day and not working the other.

BlueMoon93

@EnigmaMaitreya yeah, man, thanks a lot =)

Gallifreyan

I just click "older posts" and get a blank page with no posts.

Enigma Maitreya

@BlueMoon93 You need to talk to user..... some one he has the best ability I have seen finding free reads on the archive site and the Gutenberg site. The Galaxy issue you want is in 1938

BlueMoon93

@Gallifreyan maybe there's a bug with search queries spread across multiple pages

Gallifreyan

Sometimes it works ok up until page 8 and then it doesn't.

BlueMoon93

22:41

@EnigmaMaitreya I was hoping to find people like that here in sci-fi :P

Enigma Maitreya

Just look through the Q/A section you can spot him in a heart beat

Well Hell, stick around and answer a few questions :)

BlueMoon93

I come 'round every once in a while, but My knowledge is still very limited in these regions

Enigma Maitreya

Oh, ok, then if you don't mind why the interest in that story?

BlueMoon93

I know a bit of star wars, harry potter, lord of the rings... but sometimes people ask stuff like "whats the height of the tower of mordor". like, wut.

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Watched the movie, reading the novel now, and was annoyed at some sentences that didn't seem to make sense

Enigma Maitreya

Yeah I know exactly what you mean :) There was a big time discussion yesterday here and I was enjoying it.

Ah ok

Gallifreyan

22:47

Nightwish - 03 Ever Dream（End of An Era） Live

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Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan Ha when I first saw that I thought what? Some one knows about NightWatch?

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya The Lukyanenko books?

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan Actualy the Movie (2 of them) "Night Watch (2004 film)" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Watch_(2004_film)

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya Seen both ;) Liked the acting. Oh! That's an excellent dark fantasy nomination!

Edlothiad

@Adamant In memory of Richard. *Cough* *cough*

Enigma Maitreya

23:00

I had considered nominating the first one but didn't because there may not be that many people that know the work

@Gallifreyan In addition both films represent Russian Movie making positively.

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya Do they? I've heard some criticism about them adapting the source work poorly.

Adamant

@Edlothiad Did you want to vote on the children question, by the way? You left a comment saying to burn it, but there wasn’t an answer then.

Enigma Maitreya

@Gallifreyan Shrug No clue as I never read the books and I do not .... hum ... take reviewers very seriously, if I did half the Movies and Books I like would be in the mental trash can

@Gallifreyan So my comment was about Production Values, sets, Music etc.

Babelfish

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Q: Cartoon about a group which visits different races trying to find one with a perfect soul (which later forms some kind of pyramid)

there was this (french?) cartoon where someone/a group has to visit various strange fantasy races and tries to find the one person with a special soul. When he finds them that souls "beams out" and some kind of pyramid of light forms with the souls of other races. I know this is vague but it was ...

story-identification

Gallifreyan

@EnigmaMaitreya I see - I had no problem with those, either. It was beautifully shot, I think. And the acting was great, expecially the lead.

Zaphod

23:19

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Q: Looking for a book from an old series about kids with magic sneakers that give them superpowers

I checked this book out from a library in Indiana (U.S.A.) sometime in the early-to-mid 1980s. Written in English. A children's book; pretty short. Hardback. We're not talking a few hundred pages of text in a small font, as in a mass-market paperback, but we're not talking illustrations on every ...

story-identification childrens-novel

Babelfish

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Q: Why "Covenant" crew is so careless?

It seems that the "Covenant" crew shares the same foolhardiness as the crew from the previous "Prometheus" movie: they descent on an unknown planet without any protective equipment other than rifles. Even on Earth there are thousands of plants, insects, viruses and bacteria (not counting other t...

alien-franchise prometheus alien-covenant

Ixrec

@Babelfish the irony is part of the reason I enjoyed Covenant was that, unlike the Prometheus crew, the Covenant crew stopped being careless as soon as **** hit the fan

Edlothiad

I must've just closed about 45 tabs, feels good

Vroomfondel

23:35

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Q: Which traits of Milton's Lucifer from "Paradise Lost" did Neil Gaiman carry to "The Sandman"?

Lucifer Morningstar, the Vertigo Comics character, was created by Neil Gaiman with influence from John Milton's Paradise Lost - at least that's what is written on his Wikipedia page, and even on the official DC website's "Lucifer 101" page, which is supposed to brief new readers for the 2016 Luci...

inspiration neil-gaiman the-sandman paradise-lost john-milton

Gallifreyan

Needs flags:

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A: How did Duncan Idaho become so familiar with the fremen

The bigger question is why did they send Duncan Idaho as envoy to the Fremen when Gurney Halleck had connections to Warrick and Liet-Kynes through Dominic Verinius and the smugglers.

Going to sleep now - g'night everyone!

Edlothiad

ugh I've got a fucking mouse

ArtOfCode

So have I. It's got 5 buttons.

Edlothiad

23:53

I have a little mouse that runs around my room :(

Ixrec

Edlothiad

Ye that

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