Contact

An even letter distribution is nowhere near a safe assumption. The second letter is going to predominately be a vowel, and some vowels far more likely at that

Destructible Lemon

40''' monad

Downgoat

@Wen1now though word aren't a unform random sequence of chars

Sp3000

40''' is not Mando

Monad is correct

Wheat Wizard

@DestructibleLemon MARK WATNEY

ASCII-only

1:31 AM

contact 41

Destructible Lemon

hmm I thought it might be that one but I wasn't sure if that was something else

41: mime?

John Dvorak

41 ✔️

ppperry

33: The user who said the first message this evening

Destructible Lemon

um 3333: martin ender?

ppperry

yep

Destructible Lemon

1:33 AM

that was a really cheaty clue you know

how

^^

contact 33 maybe

well... we get people complaining about impossible clues

ASCII-only

depends when this evening was

ffao

1:33 AM

were you here during that game?

Destructible Lemon

no

no I was not

I know martin makes a lot of languages though

Downgoat

contact 33 maybe

ffao

ok, then I guess 3333 was not completely fair

Destructible Lemon

also it's cheating to go and check isn't it?

ppperry

the language in this case was Stack Cats

which I referred to in a clue for CAT

ASCII-only

1:34 AM

contact 11

@ppperry wait what

Rubio

referencing a game (or other event) the defender is known not to have been present for is categorically unfair, as they would be hopelessly unable to guess it

Destructible Lemon

um

ASCII-only

i thought it was a clue for 'S' but i guess not

ppperry

2 hours ago, by ppperry

22: what all even-length programs do in a specific estoric programming language whose name begins with "S"

Destructible Lemon

was it was it morgan g?

Downgoat

1:35 AM

4. Very influential breed of most evil animal (sh**p)

ppperry

@DestructibleLemon yes

Destructible Lemon

4: merino

John Dvorak

42: Maybe, perhaps. Either, perhaps.

Downgoat

@DestructibleLemon yea ;_; (why do you know so much about sheep that is not good)

ASCII-only

contact 4

Destructible Lemon

1:36 AM

@ppperry I hated that clue

Alconja

11": Umami flavour

Destructible Lemon

11'' msg?

Alconja

11" is MSG

Rubio

contact 11, 12, 11''

and please bold your clue

Alconja

11''': Almond flavour

Destructible Lemon

1:37 AM

pass 11

ppperry

34: Name of a programming language in which each instruction is encrypted after being executed

ASCII-only

contact 34

Rubio

11 my guess is menthol

John Dvorak

contact 34

Wheat Wizard

yes

Wen1now

1:37 AM

Okay, say you get a letter like Q

Downgoat

contact 34

Destructible Lemon

Destructible Lemon defending: M A

Downgoat

53 stands

Wen1now

Then everybody knows that the next letter is a U, but a guess has to be 'wasted' before the next next letter is revealed

ppperry

34 stands

Wheat Wizard

1:37 AM

12 was MORELS

John Dvorak

42 dies, monad

ppperry

(and what was the clue that was passed)

Alconja

11''' stands (can I get a star?)

ASCII-only

@Wen1now well the way you said it, if the guess was lucky you could get more than one letter per turn

Wen1now

Yes, if it were lucky

John Dvorak

1:38 AM

I'd like to test Wen's idea

Wheat Wizard

11: Boat variety

Rubio

there's a very good chance a guess isn't going to be blindly lucky.

ASCII-only

@Wen1now But here we have multiple concurrent clues

Wen1now

Looking at previous contact games over the last few days, the only case I've found so far of this happening was a QU combination

Destructible Lemon

34 malbolge

micsthepick

1:39 AM

12: A way of serving potatoes

Destructible Lemon

or malboge

Downgoat

contact 12

Destructible Lemon

I forget the spelling

Rubio

there's a very good chance clever guesses are going to hit more than one letter, through playing the statistics.

ppperry

yep, that's it for 34

ASCII-only

1:39 AM

@DestructibleLemon :|||||||||||||||

Wen1now

Wait, is there a misunderstanding?

Rubio

malbolge is the spelling you're after

Sp3000

76. "Candle in the Wind" honoree

Rubio

contact 76

ASCII-only

But... I guess it won't hurt to try wen's idea

micsthepick

1:40 AM

ping me If you guess 12

Alconja

contact 76, I think... maybe...

Rubio

contact 12

Downgoat

contact 76

Wen1now

They only get extra letters if that clue is passed. Then they get extra letters iff the previous letter was also the next letter in the defender's word

ASCII-only

@Wen1now Oh.

John Dvorak

1:40 AM

oh.

Wen1now

Oh yeah, and it must've been a successful contact

ASCII-only

@Wen1now Also: previous letter was the next letter??????

Rubio

(Well yeah but now you're going to change the game dynamic so people are trying to use words that are more likely to get letters.)

ASCII-only

1: MP

Wen1now

So like if DINNER is contacted, then keep giving letters until the word differs from DINNER

Rubio

1:41 AM

Anyway maybe we should focus on this game, and not that one :)

9: Missy

pass 11'''

contact 9

Contact 1

@DestructibleLemon Did someone contact it?

Rubio

1:42 AM

is 11''' contacted?

Wheat Wizard

Oh I know 11'''

Rubio

1: Maybe she's born with it

ASCII-only

I should know 11''' :/ but can't recall

Destructible Lemon

oh it isn't?

unpass then

Wheat Wizard

If no one has contacted it I will

contact 11'''

Destructible Lemon

1:43 AM

1: hail corporate maybelline xd

Sp3000

Contact whatever number Rubio's 1 becomes

1: ✔

pass 11'''

44: coast

11''': MARZIPAN

1:43 AM

@WheatWizard Marzipan it is!

ppperry

next letter

Destructible Lemon

please no 11'''' clue

Destructible Lemon defending: M A T

ppperry

44 dies, was marine

ASCII-only

9 dies if I'm right

John Dvorak

43: S2E01 of Bible

ppperry

1:45 AM

44: something that softens falls

Rubio

lol

contact 43

contact 43

contact 44

contact 44

44 was meant to be easy

Wheat Wizard

1:45 AM

contact 44

ASCII-only

Okay so this is really really obscure:

2: ■

Destructible Lemon

44 mat?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon :/ what

ppperry

with one t, not 2, but yes

Destructible Lemon

I forget spellings sometimes

Sp3000

1:46 AM

76 was MARILYN MONROE btw

Rubio

can we please address older clues? status call for: 33, 53, 12, 76, 1

12 and 76 should be dead.

ASCII-only

mat softens falls?!

Oh 1 dies

Destructible Lemon

yes

ppperry

Oh, maybe I spelled it wrong too

Destructible Lemon

they use them in acrobatics for example

it's better to fall on a mat than the floor

Rubio

1:47 AM

33? 53?

ASCII-only

@ppperry Is 33 still alive

someone pls star 2

Rubio

@Downgoat 53?

ppperry

12 mins ago, by Destructible Lemon

was it was it morgan g?

no

Downgoat

53 is dead

Sp3000

10. l(d(e(s(ne)t)d)o)l

Rubio

1:48 AM

what was 53?

contact 10

@Sp3000 why

contact 10

pass 10

matryoshka

1:49 AM

44: what things are made of

unpass

Slight fix, I typoed

um

unpass?

Is that even allowed?

John Dvorak

you can't unpass

Alconja

1:49 AM

but after the guess...

Rubio

pass counted and was guessed

Destructible Lemon

well I tried to unpass because of an edit

that's unfair

anyway, pass again then

ASCII-only

contact 44

ffao

the contact came before the edit anyway

John Dvorak

my guess stands

Destructible Lemon

1:50 AM

still unfair

ppperry

45: relating to females

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon how...

Rubio

please don't add clues, a pass is pending

Destructible Lemon

"11: some obscure clue"
"contact 11"
"pass 11"
"11: the answer is swordfish"

like just as an extreme example

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon how is this unfair

Sp3000

1:51 AM

Well I guess I could have left the clue alone, since it was still gettable as is

John Dvorak

also, y'all are invading my ID range

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only um because the clue was changed to be more obvious

micsthepick

yes 12 dead

mashed

ppperry

keep going

Alconja

@DestructibleLemon I had contact (with the correct answer) on the original version too

Destructible Lemon

1:52 AM

like I think it makes sense as a general policy

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon No? it was mainly a typo fix

Destructible Lemon

@Sp3000 was it correct?

Sp3000

Was it that much more obvious though? All I did was changing "neesting [sic] doll" to "nested doll"

John Dvorak

It didn't made the clue any more obvious, except maybe in combination of both revisions.

Sp3000

And yes matryoshka is correct

Destructible Lemon

1:52 AM

@ASCII-only this time, but I think in general, editing should undo a pass

well, that was my word anyway

ffao

all this discussion for precisely nothing

lol

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon but. the contact was before the edit.

Rubio

wow wth.

ok moving on people.

John Dvorak

welp

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only um, but it's still making it more obvious!!

ppperry

1:53 AM

44 was materials, 45 was maternal

Wheat Wizard

the next letter has not been revealed

Rubio

If the edit had substantially changed the clue or its guessability, it could nullify a pass. here, that didn't happen.

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon why are you replying to this message? it's no more obvious btw, i already said it's literally a typo fix

@WheatWizard Because the word has been guessed

Wheat Wizard

@ASCII-only Ah

Destructible Lemon

@Rubio I think it would make sense for it to nullify a pass, and if they still can't get it, they just pass again

John Dvorak

1:54 AM

Also, you would have repassed anyways because it. was. your. word.

ppperry

Next player ...

Sp3000

Sp3000 defending: Q

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only uh so I don't get to guess at the correct clue?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon Not that

Rubio

Contact clues don't even have to BE correct.

Destructible Lemon

1:55 AM

@JohnDvorak I'm saying it should be general policy

ASCII-only

But if you passed before why would you have a reason to unpass after a minor edit

ppperry

1: Can go any distance in any direction

Destructible Lemon

because I wanted to see if the edit made it clearer

Sp3000

1. QUEEN

ppperry

yep

Rubio

1:56 AM

1 can't go more than 8 ;)

Destructible Lemon

I'm gonna say it's easier to just make any edit nullify a pass, and then let them pass again if it was just a minor typo

ASCII-only

Oh if anyone wants to know #2: Open MS Word -> equation -> \matrix (remember space after it)

@DestructibleLemon but... why

John Dvorak

50: Q/A site full of opinions

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon the only edits should be typo fixes so...

Rubio

I'm gonna say we're not going to bother making a rule for this, because in practice it has, even up to right now, never made a material difference to a game. 'Nuff said. Moving on. (Please)

ASCII-only

1:57 AM

contact 50

Destructible Lemon

@Rubio it just seems like something that makes sense

o/

contact 50

50. QUORA

Moving on.

1:57 AM

50 ✔️

Wen1now

Like from here, the word most likely has U as it's next letter. It would make sense for a successful contact to reveal the U and the next letter (and possibly more)

Wheat Wizard

11: Marsupial

notjagan

26. Not John's layout

Alconja

3: airline

Wheat Wizard

contact 26

ppperry

1:58 AM

33: slowness, lack of progress

ffao