Contact

otherwise you get two people discovering that so-and-so doesn't know anything about, say, Pokemon or Arabic poetry and throwing lots of things at them that they can't distinguish from strings of random letters

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain you're an undergraduate mathematician?

Gareth McCaughan

you're supposed to win by a broadside attack on their general ignorance :-)

GentlePurpleRain

3:09 PM

The idea is to find clues that are clever enough that they're not easily solved, but hope that another player will figure them out.

n_palum

^^^^ and then it becomes unfair when two people can contact and get all the letters

Gareth McCaughan

incidentally, in case anyone cares I have absolutely no inkling what word @n_palum has in mind for 4 :-)

GentlePurpleRain

I am a computer programmer, but studied a fair amount of math in university.

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain alright, then let's see if you know this

(technically incorrect) 3: bounded and closed

Gareth McCaughan

contact 3 @LeakyNun

n_palum

3:10 PM

@GarethMcCaughan Bah if you don't know it It'll likely get busted

Gareth McCaughan

other people probably read my comments more than I do :-)

GentlePurpleRain

3: not COMPLETE?

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain no it isn't

Gareth McCaughan

contact 7 @BusinessCat "force into" though I'm not sure my guess is right

Leaky Nun

@GarethMcCaughan is it undergraduate?

Gareth McCaughan

3:11 PM

@LeakyNun yes

GentlePurpleRain

Not sure then. pass on 3

Leaky Nun

ya, so it's fair

Gareth McCaughan

though not particularly the sort of stuff computer scientists are likely to encounter

GentlePurpleRain

We need to get this game moving anyway.

Gareth McCaughan

so I think 3 is COMPACT

Leaky Nun

3:11 PM

@GarethMcCaughan yes it is

a compact set is a generalization of bounded and closed sets

GentlePurpleRain

GentlePurpleRain defending: C O M

n_palum

Yeah 4 busts

Business Cat

7 is dead, was COERCE. 6 stands

Leaky Nun

1 busts: it was COUNT

n_palum

Gareth likes to say Conjecture a lot ;)

Gareth McCaughan

3:12 PM

fwiw COERCE was my guess for 7. I would never have thought to interpret "math" as COUNT.

n_palum

^ Same on Math

1: You

GentlePurpleRain

Incidentally, if a word has different forms, and someone guesses a different form, is that considered correct?

Leaky Nun

1: n!/[(n-r)!r!]

@GentlePurpleRain I believe so

Gareth McCaughan

contact 1 @LeakyNun

GentlePurpleRain

1: not COMPUTER PROGRAMMER

n_palum

3:13 PM

@GentlePurpleRain Kind of up to Defender/consensus of group

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain come on, it's high school (no it isn't)

n_palum

1 Right

Contact 6

Business Cat

4: tailed rock

Gareth McCaughan

contact 4 @BusinessCat tailed rock

GentlePurpleRain

1: not COMBINATORICS (or something like that)

Leaky Nun

3:14 PM

@GentlePurpleRain alright, it was COMBINATION but that will do

Gareth McCaughan

1. sans

Leaky Nun

you know, what comes after com must be a bilabial consonant (or f for unknown reasons)

Contact 1

contact 1

howdy y'all

3:15 PM

pass on 1

Hi Rubio

Gareth McCaughan

what comes after "com" can be a vowel rather than any sort of consonant

n_palum

COMIC

Leaky Nun

@GarethMcCaughan that's true

n_palum

Hi Rubio

Gareth McCaughan

@n_palum yup (Comic Sans is a typeface)

GentlePurpleRain

3:15 PM

I don't do well with word-association clues. :(

n_palum

Oh I was worried that was just your word

GentlePurpleRain

GentlePurpleRain defending: C O M P

Gareth McCaughan

so 4 dies and 6 stays, right?

Business Cat

4 dead, was COMET. 6 stands

Leaky Nun

1: write

Rubio

3:16 PM

2: Organic recycling

Gareth McCaughan

contact 1 @LeakyNun

contact 2 @Rubio

GentlePurpleRain

2: not COMPOST

1: not COMPOSE

Rubio

2: ✔

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain it was COMPOSITION but yours will do

GentlePurpleRain

6: not COMPACT

n_palum

3:16 PM

8: Crony

Rubio

2: What I'm on

Gareth McCaughan

contact 2 @Rubio

GentlePurpleRain

8: not COMPATRIOT

2: not COMPUTER

Rubio

2: ✔

n_palum

Nope

Gareth McCaughan

3:17 PM

("but MOBILE doesn't begin COMP...")

7: Praise

Contact 7

7: not COMPLIMENT

5. Host

7: ✔

3:17 PM

@BusinessCat Was 6 COMPACT as he guessed?

Rubio

2: Tom Cruise says I do this

Business Cat

@n_palum Did he guess it? I didn't see if he did

2: not COMPLAIN?

2: no

1: happy

3:18 PM

He did

GentlePurpleRain

1 min ago, by GentlePurpleRain

6: not COMPACT

Business Cat

Oh. Yes it was

Sorry

tentative contact 8

GentlePurpleRain

1: not COMPLACENT

n_palum

3: Screw up

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain right

GentlePurpleRain

3:18 PM

(incidentally, happy and complacent don't mean the same thing)

Gareth McCaughan

contact 3 @n_palum screw up, but not very confidently

Leaky Nun

@GentlePurpleRain i'm sorry then

Gareth McCaughan

no need for apology -- the only requirement is that the answer be guessable by other attackers :-)

Rubio

4: gcc -O3 -s -o rubio rubio.c

Gareth McCaughan

contact 4 @Rubio

GentlePurpleRain

3:19 PM

4: not COMPILE

Rubio

4: ✔

aww. and now my secret is out

n_palum

Lol

Also contact 5 @GarethMcCaughan

6: Part

6: not COMPONENT

6: ✔

3:20 PM

4: Kinda lazy

GentlePurpleRain

What's been contacted?

Gareth McCaughan

1. Fibreglass, for instance

Contact 4 lol

4: not COMPLACENT

4: ✔

3:20 PM

@GentlePurpleRain 5, 3 and 8 at least

Rubio

contact 1 I believe

Leaky Nun

4689: 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, ...

Gareth McCaughan

contact 1 @LeakyNun

n_palum

Change numbers - 1s not to that

Gareth McCaughan

(though unfortunately we now have two 1s)

Rubio

3:21 PM

contact 1

GentlePurpleRain

pass on 3

Gareth McCaughan

I think 3 might be COMPRESS (thinking of crumpling a bit of paper)

@n_palum lol

Nope :/ COMPROMISE

contact 4689

3:22 PM

how does "compromise" mean "screw up" or vice versa?

Rubio

how is that screw up hehe

GentlePurpleRain

again, not the same thing.

Gareth McCaughan

ohhh

Leaky Nun

well your immune system is compromised

Gareth McCaughan

as in "so-and-so's immune system is compromised", etc.

Rubio

3:22 PM

4: Consist of

Gareth McCaughan

not quite the same thing but clearly close enough for Contact

contact 4 @Rubio

pass 5

contact 4

5 is COMPERE

yup

3:22 PM

@n_palum is that a word?

n_palum

Sorry it's the other kind of compromise :/

GentlePurpleRain

Never heard that word.

n_palum

means Host

Rubio

what language is that?

n_palum

I believe French

Gareth McCaughan

3:23 PM

originally French, I assume

GentlePurpleRain

GentlePurpleRain defending: C O M P R

Gareth McCaughan

but it's used in Engligh

n_palum

^

Gareth McCaughan

English

Leaky Nun

4689 is busted: COMPOSITE

Rubio

3:23 PM

2 is dead; was COMPLETE

8 busts - COMPANION

3: understand

2: grok

contact 2 @Rubio

contact 3 @LeakyNun

n_palum

Contact 3

GentlePurpleRain

3:24 PM

pass on 2 (and 3)

5: Understand

ah, we got it

and 5

COMPREHEND

@GentlePurpleRain what are you doing?

Rubio

3:24 PM

lol. I was in first, for the record

GentlePurpleRain

It was actually COMPREHENSION, but close enough.

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun what GPR was doing was saying "ah, those attacks are clearly pointing at my word, so the attackers win"

n_palum

@LeakyNun If he believes a clue has guessed his word, defender passes immediately

Leaky Nun

what does grok mean?

GentlePurpleRain

COMPREHEND

Rubio

3:25 PM

It means to understand

Leaky Nun

heh

GentlePurpleRain

It's computer slang.

n_palum

@GarethMcCaughan Side note - better today at all/eating again?

Gareth McCaughan

"grok" is from some old science-fiction stories set on Mars, where it's a Martian word meaning to understand deeply and intuitively

Leaky Nun

can I defend?

Gareth McCaughan

3:26 PM

@n_palum yes thanks, somewhat better today

n_palum

Glad to hear

Business Cat

@LeakyNun You were the first to give the clue so I believe so

Rubio

@LeakyNun Do you have a word ready?

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending: I

n_palum

@LeakyNun You didn't get the clue to the word first, so technically no unless Rubio passes to you

Rubio

3:26 PM

(I was first, actually, but hey - it was within like 10 seconds - if you have a word, go for it)

n_palum

That doesn't mean just throw it out there... he asked if you had a word....

Gareth McCaughan

@n_palum looks to me like Leaky Nun's clue was there before Rubio's, at least in order of presentation on my screen

Leaky Nun

I'm sorry @Rubio

Gareth McCaughan

I thought the chat-room software serialized them the same way for everyone, but maybe not

n_palum

@GarethMcCaughan Rubio's came in first, and then about 10-15s later Nun's popped in before it somehow

Rubio

3:27 PM

@GarethMcCaughan It was edited there, the original message was something else

GentlePurpleRain

I saw Leaky Nun first.

Gareth McCaughan

ohhhh

Rubio

the edit with a clue came after mine

GentlePurpleRain

ah

Leaky Nun

@Rubio are you defending or not?

n_palum

3:27 PM

Edit magic

I'm letting Leaky go

@Rubio thanks

so ... go for it

1: Water spike

(about to be AFK for ~ 10 minutes)

Leaky Nun

3:28 PM

@GarethMcCaughan no math for me :'(

n_palum

5: Word that was turned into a vine/gif meme

Rubio

contact 1

n_palum

3: Something that bothers

Leaky Nun

pass 1. I have no idea.

@n_palum it isn't IRRITANT

Rubio

1 - Icicle?

Business Cat

3:30 PM

1: Yes

n_palum

3 Yes

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending: I R

n_palum

Mine stands.

Rubio

1: How microwave ovens work

GentlePurpleRain

contact 1?

Business Cat

3:31 PM

4: Reckless

n_palum

3: Rainbow Personified

Leaky Nun

@Rubio it isn't IRRADIATION

Rubio

1: ✔

Leaky Nun

@n_palum it isn't IRIS

n_palum

Contact 4

Yes

Rubio

3:31 PM

2: Jagged

GentlePurpleRain

5: Livid

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat it isn't IRRESPONSIBLE (is that a word?)

contact 5

4: ✔

That is a word.

3:32 PM

It's not just a word, it's a way of life

Business Cat

6: Crop watering

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat it isn't IRRIGATION

contact 6

pass 5

6: ✔

3:33 PM

contact 2, incidentally

Rubio

1: 404: Not Found

GentlePurpleRain

@Rubio, what did you have for 5?

n_palum

8: Illogical

Rubio

5- IRATE

sorry was typing hehe

GentlePurpleRain

Shoot. There were two 5's.

Rubio

3:34 PM

contact 8 if it still matters

Oh. dear.

GentlePurpleRain

Which one did you pass on, @LeakyNun?

n_palum

That's okay - I think they meant to pass on the contacted one for you GPR

Mine has no contact

Rubio

@n_palum is the meme still live btw?

n_palum

Yes it is

Leaky Nun

which 5 was contacted?

GentlePurpleRain

3:35 PM

Well, Rubio just said "contact 5", so Leaky might have though that was the vine one

Leaky Nun

I pass whichever is contacted.

n_palum

Well he contacted right after you

Rubio

I contacted GPR's

GentlePurpleRain

Okay. Livid was contacted, and Rubio got it.

Rubio

and my answer for it is IRATE

GentlePurpleRain

3:35 PM

It was IRATE.

Leaky Nun

what does it mean?

GentlePurpleRain

Very angry.

Leaky Nun

@n_palum it isn't IRRATIONAL

@GentlePurpleRain what does livid mean?

n_palum

Yes 8

GentlePurpleRain

22 secs ago, by GentlePurpleRain

Very angry.

Beastly Gerbil

3:36 PM

Woo another game!

n_palum

Hey Gerbil

Rubio

You need to give up another letter please

Leaky Nun

oh sorry

but you all know what that letter is anyway

Leaky Nun defending: I R R

Rubio

1 lives. 2 lives.

Leaky Nun

2: it isn't IRREGULAR

n_palum

3:37 PM

5 Dies - iridocyclitis

Leaky Nun

@n_palum what is that?

Beastly Gerbil

Might be done (just joined):

Rubio

whoever just killed 2, please let me actually answer before you do that ;)

2: ✔

n_palum

Wasn't me xD

Beastly Gerbil

3: Foolish

Gareth McCaughan

3:38 PM

contact 1 @Rubio 404 though I'm very far from confident I guessed right

GentlePurpleRain

It was me.

Leaky Nun

@BeastlyGerbil it (still) isn't IRRATIONAL

Beastly Gerbil

nope

n_palum

It's a word a kid did in a spelling bee, turned into a vine joke, but the actual def is like inflammation of the iris

Leaky Nun

@n_palum I see, thank you

Business Cat

3:39 PM

5: Can't be undone

Leaky Nun

1: it isn't IRRESPONSIVE

n_palum

5 Contact

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat it isn't IRREVERSIBLE

Gareth McCaughan

contact 5 @BusinessCat

Beastly Gerbil

contact @BusinessCat

Leaky Nun

3:39 PM

and we have 3 contacts

2: Friction

5: ✔

contact 2

2?

ah, 2

Beastly Gerbil

GPR's

GentlePurpleRain

3:40 PM

Just nobody pins mine... :(

Gareth McCaughan

4. Breaking in

Rubio

I'm out of stars, so sorry :)

Leaky Nun

I swear I know some physics

but how does friction relate to anything starting with irr-

n_palum

9: Unchangeable

GentlePurpleRain

@LeakyNun You need to think less technically.

Gareth McCaughan

3:40 PM

5. Just too bad

GentlePurpleRain

contact 5.

Beastly Gerbil

woah hold the clues

GentlePurpleRain

Was just about to make a clue for that one.

Rubio

contact 5

Leaky Nun

@Rubio please confirm 1

Gareth McCaughan

3:41 PM

@GentlePurpleRain my apologies if yours would have been better than mine

GentlePurpleRain

@GarethMcCaughan Probably not.

Rubio

sorry missed it. 1 is not IRRESPONSIVE

Beastly Gerbil

contact @GarethMcCaughan

Gareth McCaughan

@BeastlyGerbil I have two

GentlePurpleRain

He has 2 clues.

Leaky Nun

3:41 PM

I pass 1. @GarethMcCaughan did you contact 1?

GentlePurpleRain

Use the number.

Business Cat

Isn't it "unresponsive" not "irresponsive"?

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat probably

Rubio

(it is, but why quibble)

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun I did contact 1, though I think there's no more than a 20% chance I'm right. I thought it might just be IRRITATING :-).

Beastly Gerbil

3:42 PM

@GarethMcCaughan didn't mean you in particular (its just we had 6 clues)

Rubio

7: Divorce cause

GentlePurpleRain

contact 7

Leaky Nun

@n_palum it (still) isn't IRREVERSIBLE

Gareth McCaughan

incidentally "irresponsive" is also a word

GentlePurpleRain

@Rubio, is Gareth correct?

Gareth McCaughan

3:43 PM

I am always correct. If Rubio clued the wrong word, that's his problem :-)

Business Cat

11: Beyond the point of saving

Rubio

1 - IRRETRIEVABLE was intended

Leaky Nun

@Rubio wow. that was nice.

Gareth McCaughan

ah, despite my joking that's a much better answer than mine

sorry @Rubio

Rubio

np

GentlePurpleRain

3:43 PM

We have at least 2 clues cluing the same word

n_palum

Not IRREVERSIBLE

GentlePurpleRain

contact 11

Gareth McCaughan

@GentlePurpleRain That's not uncommon :-).

@n_palum was LN's guess of IRREVERSIBLE for your 9 correct?

n_palum

I said not it

GentlePurpleRain

I know we have contacts on at least 2, 5, 7, and 11

Beastly Gerbil

3:44 PM

and 4

Gareth McCaughan

@n_palum whoops, so you did, sorry

Business Cat

What happens if your clue is the same word as one just revealed

Leaky Nun

I can't afford to pass all 5... but I really have no idea.

Rubio

@BusinessCat Nothing.

Gareth McCaughan

@BusinessCat nothing happens (other than that it may then get solved faster)

n_palum

3:45 PM

If you are using a different clue (and it hasn't been clued like many times already) you're fine

Beastly Gerbil

@LeakyNun just chose one to pass

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun so pick one and pass it and see what happens :-)

n_palum

If we are wrong you're fine :)

GentlePurpleRain

It might invalidate the rest.

Beastly Gerbil

ninja'd ;)

Leaky Nun

3:46 PM

let's pass 4

Beastly Gerbil

IRRUPTION is my guess (/irrupt etc)

Gareth McCaughan

correct, IRRUPTION

n_palum

Oh nice

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending I R R E

GentlePurpleRain

New letter!

Beastly Gerbil

3:47 PM

mine stands

9 stands.

11 stands

my 5 is still good

2 dies. IRRITATION.

7 lives

3:47 PM

@GentlePurpleRain how is friction related to irritation?

Rubio

They both rub you the wrong way

GentlePurpleRain

Think of a relationship that has friction.

n_palum

If someone is irritating you, there can be friction between you

GentlePurpleRain

Maybe not the best clue.

n_palum

I think it's fine

Leaky Nun

3:48 PM

I thought irritation is already guessed

Gareth McCaughan

damn it, I have a good word but can't remember what it means with enough precision to be sure of giving it a fair clue

n_palum

Doesn't matter if the clue is unique

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun the same word can be used any number of times. I don't think it was already guessed for that clue

Leaky Nun

Alright.

Rubio

@GarethMcCaughan That's what wordplay is for ;)

Gareth McCaughan

3:49 PM

@Rubio I suppose. I'm not fond of wordplay-only clues.

GentlePurpleRain

Did anyone contact 9?

n_palum

Don't think anyone has contacted my 9 yet

Gareth McCaughan

contact 3 @BeastlyGerbil

GentlePurpleRain

You might need to pass something else.

Leaky Nun

so we have 5, 7, and 11?

n_palum

3:49 PM

I contacted 11

Business Cat

I'll contact 9 then

Rubio

ok actually I'll contact 9

ok I pass 9.

Is it IRREPLACEABLE?

Nope.

3:49 PM

9 - irrevocable

Yes

wow

ding ding ding

so, does that count?

of course

3:50 PM

I think so.

Rubio

of course.

n_palum

Irreplaceable is not same def

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending I R R E P

Beastly Gerbil

because first guess was wrong

Business Cat

11 stands

Beastly Gerbil

3:50 PM

mine dies was IRRESPONSIBLE

Rubio

7 dies - was IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES

1. Unfixable

contact 1

Nice for 7

contact 1

3:50 PM

Contact 1

Gareth McCaughan

my 5 is IRREDEEMABLE

and so is dead

Leaky Nun

@BeastlyGerbil what was yours?

n_palum

Contacts on all of them

Beastly Gerbil

IRRESPONSIBLE

Leaky Nun

I mean your clue

Beastly Gerbil

3:51 PM

yeah that was

'foolish'

GentlePurpleRain

contact 1 as well.

Leaky Nun

... alright

@GarethMcCaughan what was the clue?

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun the clue for that one was "Just too bad"

which of course was meant to be just a little misleading :-)

Leaky Nun

so we have 2 clues, all contacted

GentlePurpleRain

I thought 11 was the same, but apparently not.

Gareth McCaughan

3:52 PM

I thought 11 was IRREDEEMABLE too but, well, I'll say later

GentlePurpleRain

If I'm the only one who contacted 11, I withdraw it.

Beastly Gerbil

both words are the same I think

n_palum

I have contact on 11 & 1still

Beastly Gerbil

i'll contact 11

Leaky Nun

I'll pass 11 then. @n_palum @BeastlyGerbil your turns

Rubio

3:52 PM

they might be. i'll contact 11

er nvm

n_palum

IRREPLACEABLE

Beastly Gerbil

IRREPARABLE

Leaky Nun

@BeastlyGerbil that's nice

Business Cat

Yes it was IRREPARABLE

n_palum

Figured it was one of those two ^

Beastly Gerbil

3:53 PM

woo. another letter please

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending: I R R E P R

Gareth McCaughan

1 was of course also IRREPARABLE

Leaky Nun

oh, lol

Rubio

2: The Journal of ___ Results

Gareth McCaughan

1. Such as might be found in an appropriately named Journal

Beastly Gerbil

3:54 PM

3: Uncontrollable

Gareth McCaughan

ha

Rubio

lol get out of my head

um, i'll just go ahead and say, contact 1

n_palum

5: Without fault

Gareth McCaughan

yeah, contact 2 :-)

contact 5 @n_palum

n_palum

Great minds think alike you two

Rubio

3:54 PM

contact 5

contact 5

I pass 5.

contact 3

I think 5 is IRREPROACHABLE

n_palum

You may need to teamwork to get mine

Gareth McCaughan

3:55 PM

was that The Word?

GentlePurpleRain

same

n_palum

Okay good yeah Gareth got it

Gareth McCaughan

oh, contact 3 @BeastlyGerbil in case this isn't it

GentlePurpleRain

I already contacted 3.

n_palum

@LeakyNun Letter please unless that was your word

Leaky Nun

3:56 PM

Leaky Nun defending: I R R E P R E

mine tands

oy

1 and 2 are dead

1/2 busted

8: IRREPROACHABLE

Leaky Nun

3:56 PM

I pass 8.

n_palum

:P

Gareth McCaughan

cntact 8

Leaky Nun

but there is no contact.

Gareth McCaughan

there is now

Rubio

there is now :)

Beastly Gerbil

3:56 PM

umm contact?

Gareth McCaughan

IRREPREHENSIBLE

n_palum

Yessir

Leaky Nun

Leaky Nun defending IRREPREHENSIBLE.

Rubio

lol hehe

Gareth McCaughan

so I have to ask @LeakyNun are you by any chance a choral singer?

Beastly Gerbil

3:57 PM

well done @n_palum

Leaky Nun

@GarethMcCaughan yes

Business Cat

I was going to guess that but I wasn't sure if it was a word

Gareth McCaughan

tee hee

n_palum

Figured it was one of those

Beastly Gerbil

mine was IRREPRESSIBLE

Leaky Nun

3:57 PM

> Locus iste a Deo factus est,
inaestimabile sacramentum,
irreprehensibilis est.

(Locus iste)

Gareth McCaughan

right

that's why I asked

Leaky Nun

@GarethMcCaughan that was nice

Gareth McCaughan

because "irreprehensible" is really rare in English

but "irreprehensibilis" is not so uncommon in Bruckner :-)

Leaky Nun

So, @n_palum where did you get the word?

n_palum

Same place - middle/high school choir

Leaky Nun

3:58 PM

@GarethMcCaughan what was this?

Gareth McCaughan

ha!

Leaky Nun

@n_palum wow

it's a small world

n_palum

That and I know it's a same def with IRREPROACHABLE

Gareth McCaughan

@LeakyNun the two Journal ones were IRREPRODUCIBLE.

Leaky Nun

nice

this game is really fun

I got to know one mathematician and two singers

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