@Skillmon thank ou skillmon. I think the problem of my older laptop (an asus netbook with an atom cpu) is its cpu. it is too weak to be used. last night i install a lubuntu on it. interface is great and has everything ubuntu has with a very efficient interface. the laptope was again slow.
@DavidCarlisle I am working to install a linux distro as subsystem on my current (vaio) laptop. it will be much easier for me, i work with it everyday and is much more powerful than than older one.
@EnthusiasticEngineer 99%? My laptop has an average load at around 5% with Firefox, Steam, several instances of VIM and my PDF-viewer running. But I have an old Thinkpad with one of the early i3 CPUs.
@Skillmon wow... unfortunately most of the civil engineering softwares are only working on windows, and that is linux is not much popular between graduates of engineering.
I am so much interested in programing, so i want to learn it... although i am so beginner, and most of time my questions makes people here bored :))
@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer I'd welcome thoughts on github.com/josephwright/csquotes/pull/37, both the fact that this really should be case folding and the fact that babel is not exactly being helpful (oh, and that with pre-loading, we could fix \MakeUppercase to skip stuff)
(/home/romano/texlive2019/texmf-dist/tex/cslatex/base/hyphen.cfg
Loading english hyphenation patterns and exceptions
(/home/romano/texlive2019/texmf-dist/tex/generic/hyphen/hyphen.tex)
! LaTeX Error: Encoding scheme `IL2' unknown.
See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...
l.131 ... \@requesthyphens}
%
Loading czech hyphenation patterns and exceptions for IL2
(/home/romano/texlive2019/texmf-dist/tex/csplain/base/czhyphen.tex
...¿could be a problem with my installation? It's a fresh portable installation in a subdir. How can I "reset everything"? I supposedly have no modification in it.
@Rmano oh the cslatex hyphen.cfg. It has a tendency to interfere. I remember that once simply deinstalled cslatex as it was to much work to hunt down the search pathes.
@Skillmon yes but it's same isn't it or at least used to be (on linux, i think they dropped the non gui version on windows) I'd test but I need to go in a minute
@DavidCarlisle it seems like it, I can start a window which then contains only a REPL, but can't seem to start it inside the cmd window :( This is stupid.
@UlrikeFischer Hmm... it seems I am not able to do that. tlmgr unsinstall cslatex is needed by a lot of things (going up, by scheme-full). And it's latex-dev which is failing...
@DavidCarlisle that's so stupid, really. Why cluttering my screen, when everything I want is a shell instance in which I can run small matlab thingies to quick check stuff. No need to give me a giant stupid window :(
@Skillmon yes but it is a good news that most of developers are offering linux version of their softwares; i know that abaqus, ansys, matlab, etc have linux version. The condition is a little tough for civil and structural engineers, using commands and codes is not so easy for field engineers and rapid project responders who work with workers, etc...
although in research section some enthusiasts (like me :)) ) pay much attention to codes and open source... I remember I was the only person in our university who wrote his theis by latex... the library was about deciding not to accept my raw files :)) at the end they accepted!
And... I am happy to say that I am writing these messages by my fresh installed debian parallel to my windows on a separete partition... works smooth and fast on my better laptop ^__^ I love it
@JosephWright I don't think --- I just installed a "full" under a subdirectory, portable mode. Then I mirror this directory in my two machines (I do not know if this could be the problem) and all worked ok since yestarday's update. I have several formats failing to build...
...and not a lot of time to check it. Maybe I'll reinstall everything... I'll see.
@PabloGonzálezL I fixed most of your issues but didn't understand:
% hologo line 471, more Nice
\providecommand*{\mikTeX}{\hologo{MiKTeX}}
% aliascnt, invalid link
David Carlisle: The remreset package; 1997/09/28; CTAN:macros/latex/
contrib/carlisle/remreset.sty.
(obsolete :( )
% askinclude, invalid link
Daniel H. Luecking and Donald Arseneau. The excludeonly package. 2003-03-
14. url: \CTANpkg{excludeonly} (visited on 2011-12-02).
@DavidCarlisle not in Windows, there it starts a Window which functions as a REPL, no way to get it inside the current terminal it seems. Thanks for taking a look.
@JosephWright setting the locale or the language is a hard task - everytime I want to use siunitx I either check an older document or try out the four variants de, DE_de, de_DE and DE and I never get the right one as first hit ;-)
@FaheemMitha The output from metapost can normally be included directly, so it is more of a question on whether you want to write and execute the metapost handling from within latex/lualatex
@DavidCarlisle I made a mistake in the first one, it's not hologo... the suggestion is for holtxdoc... The reference to remreset to me has not worked (and perhaps is not necessary) askinclude the output is incorrect (in the PDF is clearly seen)...
I spent a good while clicking on all the links of the references :)
@DavidCarlisle explicitly accsupp, at**, pmboxdraw (at least in two answers I just had), I used telprint as some time and hologo sometimes (but I'm lazy in this).
@UlrikeFischer I'm thinking of doing one or two more splits then all the non working ones should be one, all the really core ones should be gone and I'll leave the remaining ones as oberdiek and just split them if any update is needed. But I would like hyperref not to have any dependencies on the renaming oberdiek (so it could be classed as latex-extra, while hyperref is in core) could wait until using expl3 bits but I think it's easier transition if I get it split now, using the existing code.
\usepackage{filecontents}
Will not be overwritten:
\begin{filecontents}{data4.txt}
Line & 5 aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Line & 6
\end{filecontents}
Will be overwritten:
\begin{filecontents*}{data5.txt}
Line & 5 aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Line & 6
\end{filecontents*}
Metapost (especially the Metafun format) is great for drawing things in quite a low-level manner. And there are a number of libraries for Metapost as well but not integrated into the core package like in TikZ. But TikZ has the better interface and because of the more LaTeX-like drawing probably also more support among LaTeX users. If you're using ConTeXt, using Metapost/Metafun is definitely a reasonable choice as its integration makes it much faster than using TikZ.
@Skillmon I am not sure what the rule is, because where I am from we eat scallops, clams, and mussels. We also eat shrimp, but google tells me that is one of those weird mass nouns like fish.
@StrongBad and chicken is also like fish, I thought. You eat chicken means you're eating some amount of chicken-meat, you eat chickens would mean you're eating a fixed number of whole chickens, wouldn't it?
@PauloCereda There's child's book collection (kind of adventure/mistery with some puzzles here) which was the first thing I remember actually enjoying reading in school. I can't remember the name...
@PauloCereda I was looking for it and some site suggested me Lucas Neto :(
@Bob basically until the advent of online sites like this one or overleaf where people have to register no one had much idea who was using tex at all. Now for example stackexchange or overleaf probably has a reasonable information about the geographic spread of ip addresses of users oftheir sites but it's not something they make available.
@Bob people use things that are comfortable to them. I know a lot of good Word users and terrible LaTeX users. See, for instance, the quality of a significant part of posts in this site. These code excerpts are not good examples.
@FaheemMitha It's basically LuaTeX 2.0. They decided that LuaTeX is stable and feature-complete and that it would be useful if they could fine-tune the engine towards the ConTeXt format. So it is a bit ConTeXt specific.
@barbarabeeton Well, ok. But I was just trying to get a feel for what kind of domain Metapost covers, vs PGF/TikZ. Apparently it's its own more conventional programming language, which actual functions! Which doesn't sound like a bad thing.
I wonder if it still has TeX style expansion macros.
@FaheemMitha well, it's more like PGF than like TikZ, i.e., providing the low-level functionality. The point about TikZ is that once you know it; you cam be very efficient in very complex stuff.
@Bob -- Maybe that used to be true, and there are still strong pockets of competence, but the "official" downgrading of education in general doesn't bode well. It's very distressing to those of us who benefited from a strong public education system.
> L. Dolanský filmed at a large Belgian PC games festival, themed on Czechia. The organizer: "We should learn from you, Czechs." -- "Why? Belgium has top universities." -- "Well, because you still dwell on maths at elementary and high schools. We gave up and now we regret."
@yo' Whoever is writing code in it. I just meant that it's easier to build abstractions in a more conventional programming language (assuming MP is such a thing), than in TeX.
This bit in the PGF/TikZ manual is about MP:
> 5. The metapost program is a powerful alternative to TikZ. It used to be an external program, which entailed a bunch of problems, but in LuaTEX it is now build in. An obstacle with metapost is the inclusion of labels. This is much easier to achieve using pgf.
BTW, "build in" should be "built in". Or possibly "builtin" or "built-in".
(I never had a proper education, so my grasp of English is sketchy.)
@HenriMenke ^^ (Or I could post an issue, but it seems like a pretty trivial thing.)
@yo' -- Very sad to give up. But I'm somewhat encouraged by what's happening at my (college) alma mater -- it's really academically stronger now than when I was an undergraduate. A woman in my tai chi class is professor of Slavic linguistics there; she just came back from a conference in Prague. The group from Brown has made a new agreement with a group from Charles University; both groups are quite interdisciplinary, with representatives from maybe a dozen departments. All very exciting!
@FaheemMitha -- "built in". (Your grasp of English is far better than my grasp of anything other than English.)
@FaheemMitha -- True, but, as of this year, Brown is supporting any accepted student who can't afford it. An excellent reason to donate to the university.
@PauloCereda It's not famous. It just happened to exist in that library. But they were okay-ish, for a kid. Some years later they bought a copy of The Goblet of Fire, and then it began :-)
@FaheemMitha -- The policy pays in terms of the quality of the students. The faculty members I'm acquainted with find the students really exciting; they may come without well-defined ideas of what they want to do "when they grow up", but they know they want to make the world better.
@FaheemMitha When I first watched it I was probably too young to understand anything, but that's an excellent depiction of how people (Brazilians included) see Brazil. Most of it is an exaggeration for the sake of humour. And as always, in such cases, a lot of it is true
I hope that Brazil is in better shape than India. Things are feeling pretty dicey here. Especially since the BJP took things over. Things were bad before. They're actively trying to make it worse.
