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Sigur
Sigur
00:32
How to save coordinates in tikz? I mean: Suppose
\coordinate (a) at (2,2);
I'd like to define two new coordinates, namely (b) and (c) obtained adding two directions to (a). For example, something like (b) = (a) + (1,0) and (c) = (a) + (45:3)
marmot
marmot
01:28
@Sigur E.g. by loading the calc library \usetikzlibrary{calc}` and saying \path ($(a)+(1,0)$) coordinate (b) ($(a)+(45:3)$) coordinate (c);
@Sigur If you don't want to load calc, you could do \path (a) + (1,0) coordinate (b); \path (a) + (45:3) coordinate (c);, which works "by accident" (IMHO).
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, thanks so much. I suspected that it should be easy.... the 2nd solution is nice
By the way, do you know how to add more arrows?
add arrow/.style={postaction={decorate}, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position .75 with {\arrow{latex}},
}}
I mean, maybe at .25 and .5 also
marmot
marmot
I would use the underappreciated /.list key
\documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
\usetikzlibrary{decorations.markings}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[Sigurs mark/.style={postaction={decorate, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position #1 with {\arrow{latex}},
}}}]
\draw[Sigurs mark/.list={0.25,0.5,0.75}] (0,0) -- (5,3);
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
@Sigur ^^^
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, perfect. Thanks so much. I spend the last 2 hours trying to draw this:
marmot
marmot
@Sigur Another (perhaps freaky) way to add coordinates is to use shift
\documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
\usetikzlibrary{decorations.markings}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[Sigurs mark/.style={postaction={decorate, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position #1 with {\arrow{latex}},
}}}]
\coordinate (a) at (2,2);
\path[shift={(a)}] (1,0) coordinate (b) (45:3) coordinate (c);,
\draw[Sigurs mark/.list={0.25,0.5,0.75}] (a) -- (b) -- (c);
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
Sigur
Sigur
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@marmot, but the code is complicates, since I didn't know how to save the coordinates... lol
I did a lot of try/error
Henri Menke
Henri Menke
01:48
@Kurt Why did you reject this edit? It is correct and doesn't change the intention of the question.
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, how to change the arrow orientation?
not changing the endpoints, since I'm using it for a closed curve
marmot
marmot
The perhaps simplest possibility is to use `arrows.meta` , a very quick partial thing:
\documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usetikzlibrary{decorations.markings,arrows.meta}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[Sigurs mark/.style={postaction={decorate, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position #1 with {\arrow{LaTeX[reversed]}},
}}}]
\foreach \X in {1,...,4}
{\ifnum\X=3
\node[scale=3,transform shape] (c\X) at (2*\X,0){$\boldsymbol{\cdots}$};
\else
\node[circle,draw,fill=gray!30,inner sep=2mm] (c\X) at (2*\X,0){};
@Sigur ^^
Kurt
Kurt
@HenriMenke The edited part is a question. It could be the reason for following issues to have wrong definded commands in the code of question. Because there is no mwe it is hard to proof and therefore I would not change it.
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, amazing. thanks a lot. let me study everything. regards.
Henri Menke
Henri Menke
@Kurt Sorry, but I think you are wrong. The question does not concern the \href macro at all but the adaption of the bst file where actually \url is used.
Kurt
Kurt
02:00
@HenriMenke Yes thats the problem there the code uses (wrong) \href, the bst uses \url. No one can know if the now changed \href was a problem or not. That exactly was my reason to reject. In case one can not decide the relevance let it unchanged ...
Henri Menke
Henri Menke
@Kurt Yes, you can know because the error comes from BibTeX where LaTeX macros are completely irrelevant.
marmot
marmot
02:19
@Sigur You can try this (which is however far from elegant):
\documentclass[tikz,border=3.14mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usetikzlibrary{decorations.markings,arrows.meta}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[Sigurs mark/.style args={#1/#2/#3}{postaction={decorate, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position #1 with {\arrow{LaTeX[reversed]};
\node at (0,#3) {#2};},
}}}]
\foreach \X in {1,...,4}
{\ifnum\X=3
\node[scale=3,transform shape] (c\X) at (2*\X,0){$\boldsymbol{\cdots}$};
\else
\node[circle,draw,fill=gray!30,inner sep=2mm] (c\X) at (2*\X,0){};
 
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marmot
marmot
06:00
@CarLaTeX Already upvoted.
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@marmot Thank you, also for leaving the answer to me :)
marmot
marmot
@CarLaTeX I didn't know that one can use \centering in this context. And you're welcome! ;-)
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@marmot I see now that the OP also ask "I also want to cite him/her properly while referring to him/her." do you think he is speaking about citing?
marmot
marmot
@CarLaTeX Maybe. My crystal ball got stolen.
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@marmot LOL
@marmot I left a comment
AndréC
AndréC
06:12
@ChristianHupfer Votre traducteur automatique est très maladroit. Il aurait du traduire « Mon Dieu, pourquoi n'écrivez-vous pas en français là-bas ? »
 
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Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
07:14
@AndrΓ©C I didn't use a translator at all-- My knowledge of French is even more limited than my knowledge of LaTeX ;-)
AlexG
AlexG
07:54
@marmot No, I just modified the html for taking a screenshot. Right-click -> Inspect Element, then right-click on the code line -> Edit html. Allows you to modify your reputation to your liking :)
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
08:19
@DavidCarlisle A better example for the testsuite: 🍍πŸ₯“πŸ• (\pineapple\bacon\pizza) ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
08:35
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@AlanMunn ^^ :)
So the next version of LibreOffice introduces the ribbon UI, similar to Office...
@UlrikeFischer: quack? :)
When a zebra and a donkey mate, this is the result. This is Zippy – He's a Zonkey.
Tweeted by UberFacts on February 8, 2019 at 7:47 AM
ooh a zonkey
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
09:10
@UlrikeFischer \def\@CarLaTeX{🍍πŸ₯“πŸ•} ...
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
09:27
Friends, I need help! I need to print the page number before a certain part in my document. I thought of \arabic{\numexpr\value{part:tutorials}-1}, but I am getting nowhere... thoughts? :)
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda there are none here
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle ooh bots
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda \value takes a counter name not a label and \arabic takes a counter name not a number so you more or less want \the\numexpr\pageref{part:tutorials}-1 except \pageref doesn't usually return a number-ish number hence Heiko's zref suite which offers a pageref variant that does always give a number (even if it is just 0 the first run)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle oh thank you! I will check it out!
@DavidCarlisle Hmm sadly no luck so far... But I will keep trying. :)
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda \getpagerefnumber{foo::label} if you need the value in expandable context..Requires refcount package, but most likely you're loading hyperref anyway, so refcount lurks behind the scene ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
09:42
@ChristianHupfer ooh let me try, thanks! :)
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Number of Cereda-'ooh's so far: 10000000000000000 ;-)
@PauloCereda: How about renaming yourself into Paulo Ceredooh? ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer ooh a huge number
@ChristianHupfer nope :)
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Damn... think about the simplification... each time you typing something or are addressed with @ there would be an 'ooh' ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer ooh we could exploit the counter
@UlrikeFischer: no announcements? :)
Sigur
Sigur
10:14
@marmot amazing! thanks a lot. I should really relearn tikz.
Harald Hanche-Olsen
Harald Hanche-Olsen
10:59
@Sigur Me too, but I have to learn it first. And I have been using it for years.
Sigur
Sigur
11:15
@marmot, I have been studing your nice code and trying to create some other draws I need.
Could you please, take a look in the code below and explain why gamma_2 is not where it should be?
\documentclass[tikz,border=2mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{amsmath,mathpazo}
\usetikzlibrary{decorations.markings,arrows.meta}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[Sigurs mark/.style args={#1/#2/#3}{postaction={decorate, decoration={
markings,
mark=at position #1 with {\arrow{latex[reversed]};
\node[right] at (0,#3) {#2};},
}}}]

\foreach \X/\Y/\L in {1/0/1,2/1/2,3/.5/,4/0/m}
{\ifnum\X=3
\node[scale=2,transform shape] (c\X) at (2*\X,\Y){$\boldsymbol{\cdots}$};
\else
\node (c\X) at (2*\X,\Y){};
\fill (c\X) node[below]{$a_\L$} circle (1.3pt);
I expect it on the right, like other gammas.
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
11:46
@DavidCarlisle oh no!
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
12:00
@CarLaTeX people should mention the macro \@CarLaTeX as often as possible, you'd get a ping and would recall its definition
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
\@CarLaTeX
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
12:13
@DavidCarlisle If I allow you to smuggle this in the test suite, @CarLaTeX will probably no longer speak with me ;-). How about \@CarLaTeX@dontlikethispizza? As egreg has an dontlikesanserif-option it would be only fair ...
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
12:28
@UlrikeFischer \@CarLaTeX@thatsnotapizza
Sigur
Sigur
13:15
Interesting. latex-latex works in tikz to produce 2 arrows at ends of line. Also, |latex-latex to produce 2 arrows with a vertical bar on the left. But |latex-latex| does not work to produce the vertical bar on the right!!!!!
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
13:31
@Sigur \tikz\draw[|latex-{latex} |](0,0)--(1,0);. (the rules for arrow shorthands are a bit complicated, see Arrow Tip Specifications).
Sigur
Sigur
@UlrikeFischer, well, TikZ is good enough and we forgive for this complication... lol
lyl
lyl
13:52
@egreg Could you please have look at tex.stackexchange.com/questions/456493/…. I'd like to know How to get the result directly from \BuildCommands? I mean when calling \BuildCommands{AAA,BBB,CCC,DDD,EEE}, the typeset will be "AAABBBCCCDDDEEE".
yo'
yo'
14:30
@AlanMunn yesterday's evening was "fun" here: just below zero and raining. I think I have never seen so much black ice on literally everything. Probably if @PauloCereda's any cat were outside, it would have gotten a layer of it as well...
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' oh no
@yo' what's black ice?
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda an almost invisible layer of ice caused by rain coming on surfaces below the freezing point. It's quite dangerous as it's hard to see and it's super silppery. When driving, that's the point where you really appreciate ABS, but it cannot save everything obviously.
marmot
marmot
@Sigur It is because of 0/$\gamma_\L$/\Y and \node[right] at (0,#3) {#2};. So \Y is a shift that is 1 in the second mark but 0 in the others. You are using \Y for two purposes, the shift of the center of the circles, and also for the label distance.
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda It's one of the reasons why I like deep winter better...
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, now it makes sense (to me). Thanks.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
14:34
@yo' oh my
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THEY FORCED ME TO DO IT
I feel so dirty /sob
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda haha
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
@PauloCereda should I?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@UlrikeFischer yes. :)
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
@PauloCereda is there still a password?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@UlrikeFischer totally opened. :)
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
14:39
@barbarabeeton The tikzlings hope that you will now have more time for the chat and (with the help of @SamCarter, @PauloCereda, @CarLaTeX and me and Gert) worked very hard the last days for a suitable welcome party:
https://vimeo.com/315852862
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@PauloCereda did you see that a cat and a hippo sneaked in?
Sigur
Sigur
Just to thank and to show what I have done with your help, friends.
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@UlrikeFischer OH MY
yo'
yo'
@Sigur nice!
Sigur
Sigur
@yo', thanks.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
14:55
There's a bear, a mole, a penguin, an owl, a marmot, a sloth, a mouse, a pig, a coati, a bee, a hippo, a cat, a koala and a duck!
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@UlrikeFischer -- oh, you are all just too nice! that's a delightful welcome. but may i delay it for a few more hours? i'm trying desperately to get all my tugboat records saved before this computer is shut off from me forever. tomorrow i will have more (relatively) unstressed time.
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
@barbarabeeton glad that you could make if for a short view!
Sigur
Sigur
15:25
@barbarabeeton, I think you need one of this now: 5ti.com.br/6736-large_default/…
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yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda and a Khuck (in bottom left front)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' ooh
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@Sigur -- actually, gordon got me a 4 terabyte brick a few weeks ago, and i'm trying to fill it up. but thanks for the suggestion.
yo'
yo'
15:48
@barbarabeeton 4TB? could be easy :) Anyway, good luck with moving out!
Artificial Stupidity
Artificial Stupidity
it seems that a user named fjbu has deleted his profile. Do you notice that? :-)
egreg
egreg
16:03
@lyl Sorry, that's not at all clear
Circumscribe
Circumscribe
@ArtificialStupidity Oh? That'd be a shame; he's made some great contributions.
All of these pigs you guys have been coming up with are way too complicated. I don't see how you're going to be able to compute anything with them!
I believe this pig would be a lot more practical:
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(Largely inspired by/"borrowed" from @samcarter)
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@PauloCereda -- black ice is what caused me to go splat last year and gave me a new hip for christmas.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@barbarabeeton oh no :(
marmot
marmot
@Circumscribe Spherical pigs? Shouldn't these be cows? ;-) Very nice!!!!
Circumscribe
Circumscribe
16:20
@marmot If don't see why this approximation wouldn't be valid for pigs if it works for cows. :)
Don't worry btw; it only looks like it's frowning because the sphere is curved.
marmot
marmot
@Circumscribe Good point. (For pigs the approximation seems to be more accurate.)
Sigur
Sigur
@Circumscribe, @marmot, they are homeomorphic.... lol
marmot
marmot
@Sigur I think they do not have genus 0...
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
So a spherical cow can moooove
Sigur
Sigur
@marmot, specially because the nose ring!!!
@PauloCereda, muuuuuve lol
marmot
marmot
16:23
@Sigur Yes.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Sigur LOL
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Circumscribe
Circumscribe
@PauloCereda Of course that exists, I'm not surprised at all. :)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Circumscribe :)
Sigur
Sigur
Suppose two if(s): a and b and two options opta and optb, so that opta makes a true and b false, and optb makes b true and a false. In this case, the order of option I use matters, right? Or not? I mean, \usepackage[opta,optb]{foo} is opposite to \usepackage[optb,opta]{foo}, right?
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
@Sigur it depends on the internal definition, but normally the last one should win.
Sigur
Sigur
16:29
@UlrikeFischer, good.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
16:43
@Sigur it depends if foo uses \ProcessOptions or \ProcessOptions*
I have no electricity :(
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle So emacs cannot run?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda I have this battery thing for emergencies to keep emacs running, but there are no lights or cooker etc:-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle ooh
marmot
marmot
@DavidCarlisle That's bad! The human nerves use electricity.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@marmot ooh it's alive, it's alive
Artificial Stupidity
Artificial Stupidity
16:55
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
17:06
@ChristianHupfer ^^
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
17:27
@DavidCarlisle Huh?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@ChristianHupfer I wondered if you'd be mean and complain about the palindrome?
lights come back on!!
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@DavidCarlisle No, my life is not that bad that I have no other occupation ;-)
Krishna
Krishna
17:55
Since yesterday's infrastructure update for TLMGR, things have broken for me (Windows 10). Now, I get weird messages like
Can't spawn "cmd.exe": No error at //icnas1.cc.ic.ac.uk/kg314/texlive/2018/tlpkg/TeXLive/TLUtils.pm line 2484.
Ulrike Fischer
Ulrike Fischer
@Krishna Ask on the texlive mailing list. There are the people which can investigate this errors.
Krishna
Krishna
@UlrikeFischer yes, will do
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@marmot power restored!
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Were you running off a UPS?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha no: a laptop battery for the laptop and a phone battery for the internet:-)
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
18:07
@DavidCarlisle Oh, I forgot about laptops.
I have a UPS here. Don't really use laptops. You use a laptop at home?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha I have not had a desktop machine at home (or work) for years
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@DavidCarlisle Huh. I find laptops tres uncomfortable.
Krishna
Krishna
emailed [email protected] even though I am not subscribed to this list
I mean tex-live [at] tug [dot] org
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@ArtificialStupidity Congrats but may I say your image is horrible?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@CarLaTeX at least it's not yet another duck
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
18:13
@DavidCarlisle hm
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@DavidCarlisle :P
Artificial Stupidity
Artificial Stupidity
18:29
@CarLaTeX Thank you. An adorable mutated duck.
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@ArtificialStupidity @DavidCarlisle you got nowhere to go ^^^
Krishna
Krishna
@DavidCarlisle and @UlrikeFischer remember my earlier query on completely archiving my Phd thesis for posterity?
David had suggested to create a virtual machine
it looks like Peter Szabo has just solved my problem!
github.com/pts/historic-texlive
"historic-texlive is a set of scripts and binary executable for Unix for easy
and convenient installation of TeX Live 2008--2018. All Unix platforms are
supported. Windows (i386-cygwin, x86_64-cygwin, win32) isn't supported.
historic-texlive is useful for compiling old .tex documents reliably, to
reproduce the original output files (.dvi, .ps and .pdf)."
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
18:50
There is no justice in the world:
@DavidCarlisle I wish I could accept both solutions. The one you posted is cleaner and more straightforward but egreg's is more flexible. I couldn't choose so I tossed a coin: heads for yours, tails for egreg's. It was tails. — noibe 2 mins ago
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle Monte Carlo
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda no, evil forces acting through the ether I suspect
marmot
marmot
19:05
@DavidCarlisle He should have told you that his coin has two tails.
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
19:45
@yo' Yes, exactly the same problem here. Although today we have -9 and high winds with blowing snow over the layer of ice... A wonderful combination of zero visibility and zero traction.
Krishna
Krishna
I remember my first experience with zero traction conditions
in America
was dangerous
marmot
marmot
@AlanMunn @Krishna I used to have a bike with these tires. This actually helps (but not for the vision ;-)
Krishna
Krishna
hmm
@marmot can I ask a quick biblatex question?
marmot
marmot
@Krishna You want to ask @moewe (unless you want a TikZ answer to your biblatex question ;-)
Krishna
Krishna
:)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
19:57
@marmot \usepackage[style=tikz]{biblatex}
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz Have you tried that?
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot I don't have a color printer, so I did not try
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
4 upvotes in 9 minutes for a very trivial answer, tex.stackexchange.com/a/473981/101651: record!
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz You do not need a color printer. (I thought the point of compiling stuff to pdf is that you can simply delete the files instead of printing them. ;-)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot That was the quickest shabby excuse I found :-)
marmot
marmot
20:03
@StefanKottwitz It is not shabby but better for the environment. (Imagine the papers that appear every day on the arXiv got printed, let alone read.)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot mine, not yours
@marmot I rarely print. I still use my first toner cartridge with the laser printer I bought 10 years ago on ebay. I wonder if my cheap ebay spare cartridges may still work.
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz I am even more progressive: I neither print nor read. ;-)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot online in write only mode :-)
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz Yes. This helps to avoid misunderstandings. ;-)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot So I understand that you use TikZ. No printing nor reading, just drawing and admiring.
marmot
marmot
20:11
@StefanKottwitz Cross out admiring.
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot Ok!
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usetikzlibrary{shapes}
\begin{document}
\tikz\node[cross out,draw]{admiring};
\end{document}
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marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz More like this:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tikzducks}
\usetikzlibrary{plotmarks}
\begin{document}
David Carlisle \tikz[baseline=7mm]{\node[scale=6,red] at (-1,1){\pgfuseplotmark{heart}};\duck}
\end{document}
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Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot Add pineapple and worcester sauce.
marmot
marmot
20:26
@StefanKottwitz There are no such plot marks yet.... but if you are interested in crystal balls, I might be able to help.
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot I'm not interested in balls, thanks.
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz They could be very useful when trying to interpret certain questions....
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@marmot I got some. ;-)
Maybe not made of crystal.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@marmot where are the pancakes?
marmot
marmot
@StefanKottwitz My crystal ball got stolen.
@DavidCarlisle How would I know? My crystal ball got stolen.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
20:30
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@marmot ^^ you just can't trust those ducks
marmot
marmot
@CarLaTeX You didn't get the votes for the answer, but for the title of the document shown on the screen shot, I believe. ;-)
CarLaTeX
CarLaTeX
@marmot maybe, lol!
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
21:00
@Krishna Since the @marmot is unable to answer your biblatex question, you can try me. I won't suggest a TikZ solution, promise.
marmot
marmot
21:13
@DavidCarlisle I know!
 
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
22:23
@DavidCarlisle you are mean
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
22:42
Jun 29 '17 at 16:15, by Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle you are not mean :)

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