TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2016-04-12

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cfr

01:29

Could somebody take a look at this fontspec/l3/MikTeX bug?

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Q: Tex document not building in new computer (fontspec)

I have a resume written in Tex that was working just fine. I had to change my HD drive due to a problem. I installed Miktex 2.9 and TexMaker again and configured the packages to download and install on the fly. I'm using Windows 7 x64 When I build the file now, I'm getting several errors, but th...

miktex fontspec texmaker

("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.9\tex\latex\fontspec\fontspec.cfg")))
! Undefined control sequence.
<recently read> \str_case:nnn

l.4 \setmainfont{Arial}

Is this one of the recent bugs? The OP installed MikTeX on a new hard drive, so I guess it should be reasonably current? I know zilch about MikTeX, though.

1 hour later…

barbara beeton

02:38

@cfr -- if i'm not mistaken (which is very possible, since i don't use miktex, i only lurk on the tex-live list), miktex doesn't freeze updates when the tex live freeze takes place, so it could update some files that won't be in synch until the tex live release. just a wild guess. and since that user had to do a total re-install, he certainly doesn't have the same versions he did before,

3 hours later…

Joseph Wright

05:53

@cfr We 'zapped' all of the \str_case:nnn use ages ago: this looks like picking up some old version of fontsepc

2 hours later…

Ulrike Fischer

07:51

@cfr The OP didn't say which source he used, if he used a DVD or protext or the basic installer it can contain outdated stuff.

Johannes_B

08:02

@ChristianHupfer Have you been referring to something?

3 hours later…

Paulo Cereda

11:08

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egreg

11:56

From my new Ubuntu office machine; installed TL 2016 pretest, usual procedure working! :-D

Paulo Cereda

12:13

@egreg Ubuntu?!?! Oh no!!!!!

David Carlisle

12:50

@PauloCereda he calls it ubuntu but he means Windows 10 and its linux subsystem.

Joseph Wright

13:08

@egreg Good

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B No, no. I just pretended my name would be Johannes_B and posted a comment out of context ;-)

egreg

13:33

@PauloCereda You'll teach me how to install a dually bootable system

Paulo Cereda

14:25

@DavidCarlisle ooh :)

@egreg Sure. :)

jonalv

14:45

is dual boot really worth it these days when computers are fast and virtual box is easy?

Joseph Wright

@jonalv Depends on your requirements

jonalv

yea I guess but when does the virtual machine not cut it?

/me thinks it is a pain to do the actual reboot... it takes like forever... :)

oh, no "/me" here :(

Joseph Wright

@jonalv Gaming is the usual

egreg

@JosephWright Is there any deep reason for not providing global assignments to coffins?

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Q: Globally assigning a coffin

There is no macro \vcoffin_gset:Nnw. How can I achieve that result? MWE \documentclass{article} \usepackage{expl3}\ExplSyntaxOn \usepackage{mwe} \newcommand\typesetit {\coffin_typeset:Nnnnn\l_tmpa_coffin{l}{T}{0pt}{0pt}} \newenvironment{test} {\vcoffin_set:Nnw\l_tmpa_coffin{4in}}{\vcoffin_set_...

jonalv

Yea I have the Windows machine at home for gaming but if I ever would do any LaTeX stuff at home I would do it from a virtual machine I think... But I guess if one normally uses linux then one want that to boot first...

Joseph Wright

14:54

@egreg Primarily 'it would be a lot of work' (I'd have to generalise all of the internals and pass around setters), btu also there's the question of what coffins are for, and at least at the moment we've not wanted global ones

@egreg Probably one for LaTeX-L so the obvious people can comment

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle @barbarabeeton @JosephWright @egreg Markus made me aware that also the standard classes are affected by the redefinition of \@ifstar by amsgen if you are not really careful regarding spurious spaces:

\documentclass{book}%

\usepackage{amsgen}

\makeatletter
\renewcommand{\section}{%
\@startsection{section}%
{1} %spurious spaces
{0mm}%
{2ex plus 1ex minus 1ex}%
{0.5ex plus 0.5ex minus 0.5ex}%
{\Large\bfseries}
}
\makeatother

\begin{document}

\tableofcontents

\section*{Starheading}

\section{Normal heading}
\end{document}

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Doesn't surprise me: this is definitely one for the '2e team' (I've no view at all on such long-standing design ideas in 2e in terms of changing or commenting on it other than as guiding a new format)

@UlrikeFischer Problem here is of course in part that the AMS bundle is really part of core LaTeX (hence required) but this was not addressed 20+ years ago

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: can I create a funny tag? :)

percusse

@PauloCereda

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Paulo Cereda

@percusse NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

percusse

15:01

because that's how I roll :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse hi sir! Long time no see!

percusse

@PauloCereda 'ellow

David Carlisle

@JosephWright or rather the current situation accurately reflects the discussions at that time (@UlrikeFischer) ....

Sean Allred

@JosephWright @egreg I'll post something to LaTeX-L tonight along with my use-case :)

I'll also post my work-around as an answer later tonight. It's not great, but... I guess it works. I end up with a few more poles than I'd like.

Paulo Cereda

15:22

@SeanAllred ooh pole dancing!

<3

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda Yes.

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred YES! <3

Sean Allred

<3

Paulo Cereda

(")> <(")

Sean Allred

:D :D :D

Paulo Cereda

15:24

@SeanAllred :D

David Carlisle

@JosephWright biblatex team needs to practice mwe creation a bit more, I think:-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/303858/…

Joseph Wright

15:39

@SeanAllred OK

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Johannes_B

16:03

@ChristianHupfer Now i know how you feel :-)

Christian Hupfer

16:17

@Johannes_B Really? Not even me knows how I feel :D

Johannes_B

Blaue Schuhe sind wärmer als grüne.

2 hours later…

Joseph Wright

18:23

@DavidCarlisle PLK is obviously working hard on biblatex: I've been asked to provide some 'serious' TeX code (plus fix the backend issues)

Paulo Cereda

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The most clicked ad.

Joseph Wright

19:18

Anyone know much about Git? In particular, how do I 'tell' it about changes made to a file in two branches where there's also a rename

Paulo Cereda

20:01

@JosephWright No idea. :(

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Neither do I, so for the mo I'm putting up with the name staying the same until everything is done

Kurt

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Q: sharelatex problem

I am trying to use the ICIS2016 template posted by Ryan Schuetzler on Github here: https://github.com/rschuetzler/latex-icis-template It is complaining about font Georgia not being installed. I emailed ShareLatex and they said to post a question here Can anyone help? Thanks

Have you seen this question? Is that a good style of ShareLaTeX?

Paulo Cereda

20:20

ooh there's a squirrel in the chatroom!

Lots of new people in here, yay!

Welcome to ~~the world of tomorrow~~ the chatroom!

Joseph Wright

Indeed

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright :) We should throw a party!

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda Shouldn't you do some thesis or something like that? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer oh no, I've been spotted! :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: You sir, are a procrastinating duck

Joseph Wright

20:28

So, what brings everyone here?

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright It has to be our amazing ads. :)

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright I am mainly here for the interviews ... ;-) (@PauloCereda: Whickers Island ;-))

Natalie Hogg

I clicked on the ad about writing in lower case...

Joseph Wright

@NatalieHogg Ah, @barbarabeeton, makes sense :-)

Johannes_B

@Kurt go to office 6 on the second floor.

Natalie Hogg

20:29

but really I am just putting off working on my dissertation :P

Joseph Wright

@NatalieHogg Ah, sounds familiar

barbara beeton

@NatalieHogg -- you're not the only one here doing that.

Paulo Cereda

@NatalieHogg Welcome to the chatroom, Natalie!

Christian Hupfer

@NatalieHogg This is @PauloCereda 's bad influence, apparently ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer oy

Natalie Hogg

20:31

@PauloCereda thank you :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda <3

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer <3

barbara beeton

@NatalieHogg -- @PauloCereda is the other procrastinator. on friday he will go into his ordeal, where it will be determined whether he is worthy to continue. we, of course, know that he is, but his adviser and the inquisition have to decide that for themselves.

Natalie Hogg

@barbarabeeton I see, well good luck @PauloCereda!

egreg

@barbarabeeton The Brazilian Inquisition?

Paulo Cereda

20:34

@barbarabeeton @NatalieHogg Thank you! :)

@egreg Not the one happening in Brasília. :)

Christian Hupfer

@barbarabeeton: If the advisor misbehaves I will broadcast in behalf of the ~~wood party~~ Paulo Party @PauloCereda ;-)

egreg

@PauloCereda The São Paulo branch uses cruel methods such as prolonged tickling.

barbara beeton

@ChristianHupfer -- kind of too bad we can't be there to wave banners and shout slogans of encouragement. but we can think positive thoughts.

Christian Hupfer

Have a good night all

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Yes, quite! :) As counterattack, I prepared some slides with Comic Sans. :)

Christian Hupfer

20:37

@barbarabeeton: The force is with him, I feel it ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Good night, Christian! :)

@barbarabeeton oooooh <3

barbara beeton

@ChristianHupfer -- nighty night. (still an hour and a half until dinnertime here.)

Paulo Cereda

@NatalieHogg: ^^ this is the best group of people ever! <3

Christian Hupfer

@barbarabeeton Well, it's not really late here, but I've to get up really early tomorrow!

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton I am sure even @David would approve: one of my slides has the emacs logo in it. :)

barbara beeton

20:39

@PauloCereda -- hmmm. i've been using emacs for nigh onto 40 years and didn't realize that it even had an official logo.

Natalie Hogg

@PauloCereda I think you're right! I was a little intimidated by TeX.SX at first, but everyone is really nice :)

Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton ooh

@NatalieHogg you are more than welcome to join the fun. :)

Joseph Wright

@NatalieHogg We aim to be friendly

egreg

@PauloCereda I would send you on a desert island after seeing that! And I'm not joking! ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg LOL

!!/help

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good afternoon! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!

Psmith is back!

egreg

20:44

!!/battle

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 245 vs. 70 David. So far, egreg is winning.

@egreg: good times! :D

!!/choose procrastinate, write thesis

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great oracle says: write thesis

Bah.

barbara beeton

i've just delivered to chuck bigelow the (i hope) final version of an article for visible language, a special 50th anniversary issue on typography. the title is "communication of mathematics with tex", and dick palais is my co-author. do watch for it. i think it will be the september issue.

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Paulo Cereda

@barbarabeeton Congrats, Barbara!

Kurzd

Is the 'device-independent' name on dvipsnames anyhow related to the fact that greenis lighter than Green, but cyan, magenta, and yellow are darker than the dvipsnames variants?

egreg

@Kurzd I think it just refers to the program dvips

Kurzd

21:02

Are those colors supposed to be different? blue is the same as Blue, red looks the same as Red and so on

egreg

21:13

@PauloCereda Now playing: radioswissclassic.ch/en/musicians/song/…

Paulo Cereda

Very nice!

Natalie Hogg

21:46

well, good night all :)

yo'

22:01

Damn, I managed to drain my car battery :-(

Kurzd

22:44

@yo' Did you leave the lights on for hours?

yo'

23:03

@Kurzd yep, while working on the car in the garage, stupid me...

Kurzd

@yo' I can imagine a few worse situations to empty your car's battery. Imagine being a Wolfsburg fan that had a power outage, and dried his battery listening to the game.

After reading that, I'm not sure if that makes you feel any better.

yo'

@Kurzd Well, I'm fine, it's just that I ...

... spent quite some time with it. I went home fetch the tools to remove the battery and it's charging just now on my balcony.

egreg

@Kurzd The Wolfsburg fan would have thanked the drained battery, after seeing the score. ;-)

yo'

Now I gotta go, bye!

egreg

@yo' Good night!

Kurzd

23:22

@yo' Nighty

@egreg Not sure if I'm allowed to make such a silly question, but how does a drained battery help a sad VfL fan?

egreg

@Kurzd He wouldn't see the match. ;-)

Kurzd

@egreg In my setting, he drained his battery listening to the match because a power outage left him with his car's radio as his single option to know what was going on.

@DavidCarlisle About the character creation question I had like 10 days ago, are mkern better than hspace and vspace when making custom characters?

egreg

@Kurzd Well, my impression is that ignorance of the final score would have helped.

@Kurzd \mkern is only horizontal

Kurzd

23:38

Is there any reason to use \mkernover \hspace here?

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