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Alan Munn
Alan Munn
00:02
@DavidCarlisle Postponing the inevitable.
egreg
egreg
@AlanMunn Or gaining an unmerited draw.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg s/unmerited draw/epic recovery/ I think you meant?
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle How's the score?
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg 247 for 6 (England need another 284 runs to win) still rained off
@egreg In other words our bowlers are batting and need to survive one day of Australian bowling for us to draw, Australia just need 4 wickets today to win, so the more rain the better:-)
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle Australia's climate is dry.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
00:19
@egreg rain stopped: we've lost another wicket already:( 259-7
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
00:32
@DavidCarlisle Oh no!
What's a wicket? :)
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
@PauloCereda It's an out. I'm sure that helps. :)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@AlanMunn ooh! :)
People that were in now are out, right? :)
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
00:47
@PauloCereda it looks like this and Australians are throwing balls very fast at it and trying to knock it down:-(
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
01:02
304-9 :(:( 
    Australia beat England by 218 runs
    Australia: 570-9 & 132-3 (39.0 overs)
    England: 172 & 312 (101.4 overs)
    Venue: Adelaide
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
01:23
@DavidCarlisle Oh my!
 
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Canageek
Canageek
07:28
I have never been lied to by data in a .txt file which has been hand-aligned.
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Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@Canageek .zip and .exe are off the scale I guess.
Canageek
Canageek
@StephanLehmke I'm surprised .jpeg is lower then .jpg --I've never seen a .jpeg in the wild
Ingmar
Ingmar
I was coming here to see if somebody has posted it already :)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@Canageek I thought it was a Mac custom.
Canageek
Canageek
@StephanLehmke Could be. Never seen a .jpe in the wild either.
Anyway, midnight here, so time for me to sleep
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
07:38
@DavidCarlisle: @egreg answered a longtable question. :)
 
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
09:24
@PauloCereda he probably got it wrong
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Hey, why don't you guys use the TARDIS so you can change the results of a cricket match against the Aussies? :)
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
Looks like UK-TUG will be able to take PayPal for renewals this year :-)
Anyone heard anything about the TeX-sx TUG membership?
@StefanKottwitz There is something up with your blog: looks like a trojan has got installed :-(
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright Yay!
@JosephWright Not yet.
@JosephWright Oh no!
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@JosephWright What is the TeX-sx TUG membership?
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@Johannes_B StackExachange agreed to pay for 'corporate' membership of TUG: eight people can therefore get TUGBoat for 'free' as our 'representatives'
They've paid for a couple of years, but renewal must be just about due
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
09:41
@JosephWright I am also thinking of becoming a TUG member. Well, this would be joined membership with DANTE :-)
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
59
Q: Do we want Stack Exchange to become an institutional member of the TUG?

Stefan KottwitzI suggest Stack Exchange Inc. becomes an institutional member of the TeX User Group. I'm glad that many votes alread show interest in this topic. So let's work it out! What are the benefits for our site, for SE and for the TeX community? What is required? How does it work? Feel free to add a...

discussion site-promotion sponsorship tug
@Johannes_B Sensible: joint membership is often cheaper than doing it 'stand-alone'
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@JosephWright You are right, easy decision. I am going to send an email to our office.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Oh no, I have to convert a paper of mine to Word.
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@PauloCereda Lucky you: welcome to my world
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright It was a great experience. I won't renew though, I think it's time for other member to earn the privilege. :)
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
09:49
@PauloCereda Fine: at present I've not heard anything at all about renewals from the Powers
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright :) I'll prod you later, there are tons of TikZ/PGFPlots in it. :P
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@PauloCereda You'll need to extract them as pictures
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Is the main site down also for you?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright boo. :)
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@egreg Problems here
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
09:49
@egreg It is! :(
downforeveryoneorjustme.com/tex.stackexchange.com
:(
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@egreg seems like that
@PauloCereda How was working with Word? I didn't touch it in a long time.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B I'm about to start yet. :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda Good luck
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B Danke. :)
egreg
egreg
Back to normal. :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
10:00
@JosephWright I started defining *semantic* commands for quantities in any kind using siunitx.

\DeclareSIUnit { \density }{ \gram\per\cubic\centi\meter }
\DeclareDocumentCommand \Density { O{} m } { \SI [ #1 ] { #2 } { \dichte} }

I have the bad feeling that there is some tripwire i am not seeing. Can you (or anybody else) think of any drawbacks from the above?
Stupid me!

\DeclareSIUnit { \density }{ \gram\per\cubic\centi\meter }
\DeclareDocumentCommand \Density { O{} m } { \SI [ #1 ] { #2 } { \density} }

(the original definition in my document was german)
 
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Indian
Indian
11:02
Can anyone help me with the tex4ht --> Winword conversion? Will this effectively execute the endfloat package macros and move the figures and tables to the end?
tohecz
tohecz
@Indian Hi! Sorry, I gotta go so I can't find the correct question, but this was discussed on the site before.
Indian
Indian
like?
 
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:08
9
Q: Poems related to mathematics

waj cheemaI am supposed to be presenting a poem in my undergraduate math class, that relates to mathematics. The point of the presentation is to show the beauty of math , and the fun of it ,and also it will help us "appreciate math more" according to my professor! Which I definitely agree with. The poem th...

soft-question recreational-mathematics education
Langweilig.
:)
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egreg
egreg
12:42
@PauloCereda Jabberwocky?
My lecture today was on change of bases and matrices for linear maps. Big obstacle for the students.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
12:58
@egreg I think the first three years of studying (university) maths is comparable to the first three years of highschool english (or say italian for english native speakers): all the lectures are more or less 100% english from day 1, but whatever angle you start from, you only understand fragments of it until at some point in time, you start to see the whole picture.
michal.h21
michal.h21
@Indian I don't use endfloat package, but I tried small sample and it seemt it does what you want with tex4ht
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@Canageek I wonder, earnestly, what harm can PDF do? In Chromium, I have to accept two security warning dialogs before I can open a downloaded PDF.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg :)
egreg
egreg
@StephanLehmke Which makes difficult to teach maths to students who don't understand why it's important for them (they're CS students).
tohecz
tohecz
@StephanLehmke I believe that the trustworthiness applies to the "typical content", not to the file-type (at least that's how I understood it). Notice that GIFs can't conain viruses ;)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
13:07
@egreg Oh no, CS students.
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Today I met one who was in my class three years ago; quite bright, I should say. He's from Morocco and currently he's in Munich at TUM.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg How nice! :)
tohecz
tohecz
@Jake I spot an owl! Hi!
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda 
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
math is hard,
ooh a kangaroo!
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda But, generally, CS students are bad at math. ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
13:14
@egreg and other subjects. :P
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Kangaroo? Australia? Cricket?
tohecz
tohecz
@egreg depends what type of CS students probably, and where. For me, CS is a sub-category of maths ;)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg subtle reference. :)
egreg
egreg
@tohecz I was just teasing Paulo. The average CS students realize math is important only later and in the first year they put it aside.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@egreg I guess the delusion of CS people to consider themselves "good enough" at maths is as wide-spread as the delusion of maths people to consider themselves "good enough" at CS ;-)
tohecz
tohecz
13:22
@StephanLehmke @egreg yeah, you both have a point :) and btw, that's the reason why I have a math supervisor at a CS dept ;)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
13:55
@egreg, @Stephan, @tohecz: and I'm in a Computer Engineering department. Think of the madness. :P
A TCS guy with engineers. Oh boy.
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
14:06
@JosephWright @cgnieder has put it in one single macro. texwelt.de/wissen/fragen/2588
 
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egreg
egreg
15:48
@PauloCereda My number of bronze badges is 1234
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
15:59
@PauloCereda Well this TCS guy is doing everything from programming via customer projects to sales ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
16:10
@egreg ooh! :)
@StephanLehmke you are my hero. :)
jonalv
jonalv
16:20
hi
I am not really having the best of days and I am wondering if maybe someone can help me?
In what way is tex.stackexchange.com/questions/149175/… a duplicate?
Also, what happend to the link to this chat room? I had to go trough google to find it here...
tohecz
tohecz
59
Q: Request for revert of the top bar background colour

toheczI would like to request that the background colour of the top bar gets reverted to the previous warm brownish. There are three reasons for this: The black top bar is the most emphasized element of the site now, which is surely not the intention. Its colour doesn't fit the warm, smooth and pleas...

feature-request featured design
20
Q: Is there a possibility to have the previous design of TeX-stackexchange page?

Przemysław ScherwentkeToday I suddenly saw my personal information on the page very small and on the black background. It looks like a necrology! Additionally, not the same information as earlier appears. In particular I cannot find the cummulative points for Q&A's in the central part of the status bar. The next chan...

support design previous-version
@jonalv I'm not sure whether it's a duplicate, since, honestly, I don't understand your question :-/
jonalv
jonalv
aouch
:)
tohecz
tohecz
@jonalv The link to the chat is under the StackExchange logo on top left
jonalv
jonalv
ah there we ahve a link. Thanks :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@jonalv Nearly the same question has been asked before.
jonalv
jonalv
16:26
yea, it's just that I (and I will happily admit that my brain is frying here trying to learn pgfplots for the first time) looked at that question / answer over and over again and could not solve my problem. Also I can not see the solution I got in that question so I am having a really hard time understand in what sense it is a duplicate. And since I want to learn pgfplots for the moment I would love to understand how it can be a duplicate. It's not so easy for a bear of very little brain...
tohecz
tohecz
@jonalv And do you get it from the Jake's answer?
jonalv
jonalv
yea
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@jonalv The new version of pgfplots (2.9) has a tutorial. This should be a good starting point. Save one afternoon, read it carefully and reconstruct the examples.
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@jonalv If jakes answer has the solution, you can accept it.
jonalv
jonalv
@Johannes_B: Interesting, where can I find that?
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@jonalv The manuals to all instaled packages should be on your harddrive. You can acces them by opening a terminal and type texdoc pgfplots.
Another location would be texdoc.net, but sometimes, the information there is a bit outdated.
jonalv
jonalv
16:36
neat :)
I usually just google but this was handy
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
You can *always* find the newest version on CTAN.
The syntax is pretty simple: `http://www.ctan.org/pkg/pgfplots`
But be aware, that you might not have the newest version installed on your system. So, updating with the package manager of your distribution might be useful.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
16:59
@Brent: hello, my dear Brent! Do you remember Mussum? :)
tohecz
tohecz
17:33
@Johannes_B @jonalv With TeXLive you should always get the proper version of the documentation through texdoc pgfplots
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B just to please you :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@tohecz Yez, but texdoc.net is a different thing. ;-)
@cgnieder You did very much. i even threw in some rep points.
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B I noticed, thanks :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
17:49
@cgnieder Please have a look at http://www.golatex.de/fussnoten-linksbuendig-t12130.html

Is this really *soo* hard to understand for a beginner?
@cgnieder I just called dips on "Wie defniere ich mir eigene Befehle?"
tohecz
tohecz
@Johannes_B I didn't mention texdoc.net ;)
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B Well, it seems to be... I guess the main point is that it needs time to create a MWE if you're not used to and people rather want a solution to their problem than to learn something seemingly unrelated. It's not obvious that learning how to build a MWE is a great investment for the future
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@tohecz But i did :-) Well, i hope @jonalv did understand it.
@cgnieder it's not so much about the MWE, it's more about defining a new command with an argument.
@cgnieder I just tested it out with an intelligent woman, who also uses LaTeX, though not su much as we do. She couldn't solve this question herself by reading the 2 linked pages. I guess she could have, i she would have been really interested, but still ...
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B Ah, that :) It probably depends on the background you have. With programming background or mathematical knowledge or having used cell references in a spreadsheet the idea of an argument that replaces #1 and #2 is not so hard. But if you don't have any of that it's hard to tell how difficult it is
tohecz
tohecz
anyways, gotta go, might catch you later :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
17:59
@Johannes_B I probably need to write an introduction to LaTeX myself one day... :p
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@tohecz Bye
@cgnieder Hurry up, so i can wish it for our contest over at texwelt :)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder Exactly. :) Besides, some things are relative; I can remember the classical example of variable swapping, where people do a = b and then b = a. :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cgnieder Variable swapping? isn't there a package for this?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B I meant people might not seen the problem. :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda Oh, i didnt't realise you were writing. Exactly, they are not aware of sometjing strange. One has to say »Think about that«
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
18:05
@Johannes_B Yep. :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
For example: Tjink about meter, it is just a small letter m. Now, what about the mass of something? it is also a small letter m.
Once they are conscious about it, everything will work out just fine.
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B :) bitbucket.org/cgnieder/tutorial but I haven't worked on it for a while
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@cgnieder I'll have a look at it tonight
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder: don't run, you are in arara 5.0 beta test super great ultra hyper über program affililiation bonus milleage points with a lot of ducks corporation limited edition. :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B still has so many open ends ... and even some open starts :p
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
18:09
@cgnieder There's a bug in there. Oh wait, it's German. <3
cgnieder
cgnieder
@PauloCereda Anything that is »super great ultra hyper über« and has ducks must be fun ;)
@PauloCereda :p
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder <3
@cgnieder Das tutorial ist exzellent! :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
@PauloCereda :) I'm not so sure... once it covers all necessary basics I'll need some proofreaders ... but that'll not be any time soon
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder Beware of Marco. :) He can add at least ninety new sections/chapters. :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
@PauloCereda I have to keep that in mind!
:)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
18:16
@cgnieder Always open for proof reading.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
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Seems legit.
:)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@Paulo We once had an exchange student. He said »german is such a soft and warm language. For example SCHMETTERLING.« And he said that last part in a very enraged way. :-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@Johannes_B LOL
must... resist... posting... something... from... YouTube...
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda :-D
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
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Sorry, people. :)
If there's any consolation, I used to listen to Rammstein. :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
18:20
@PauloCereda »Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad.«
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder ooh! :)
cgnieder
cgnieder
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cgnieder pure gold. :)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
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cgnieder
cgnieder
@PauloCereda Indeed! :)
Forkrul Assail
Forkrul Assail
18:28
Looks like I have a channel for German learning here :)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@StephanLehmke :-)
Is there any Rammstein song containing the word Schmetterling?
cgnieder
cgnieder
@Johannes_B When I made Abitur we've recorded a song Zahnstein with lots of drilling noises it it... ahhh, the good ol' times
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@PauloCereda It would be interesting to hear the same video without making the German parts artificially rude :-(
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StephanLehmke That's what I thought. :)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
German is famous for sounding harsh, in particular when compared with French or Italian, but I don't know about English TBH ;-)
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
18:43
You can make any language have a harsh tone, artificially. Think of the »I am scared of germans« video. I f he says »La tour d'Eiffel« it can sound pretty scary, too.
Well, nevertheless. Gotte go. Have a nice evening :-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@topskip: Patrick! :)
topskip
topskip
Hi Paulo!
luaotfload | Scanning OS fonts... ... hours later
even worse:
luaotfload | Scanning OS fonts...Bus error: 10
Bus error? Taxi error? Subway error? WTF?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@topskip Uh-oh.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
18:58
@topskip Maybe a late side effect of Xaver...
topskip
topskip
@StephanLehmke :))
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
At least TeX has learned how to give meaningful error messages at last.
topskip
topskip
@StephanLehmke I am glad it's Bus error 10, not 11.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@topskip Exactly what I was thinking.
I had a problem with pdftex suddenly dying mid-compilation quite randomly for several weeks once, and it turned out to be a problem with some bad bits on a SIMM RAM card.
You can see that pdftex is the only application seriously using memory on my system :-)
topskip
topskip
19:20
@StephanLehmke that is the last thing I'd consider being broken
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@topskip Well all was well again after the RAM was changed :-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@topskip ooh TeX hot swap. :)
topskip
topskip
Luaotfload is even slower than Java.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@topskip Holy cow.
:)
topskip
topskip
At least I got rid now of "error 10" :))
17
Q: Lualatex (luaotfload) broke after upgrading to Mavericks

jdevuystEver since I upgraded to OS X Mavericks—post hoc ergo propter hoc—I can no longer compile my dissertation using LuaLaTeX. When running lualatex I first got the following error: luaotfload | db: reload initiated; reason: “unresolved font name: ‘lucidacal Segmentation fault: 11 'lucidacal' pre...

errors luatex fontspec osx luaotfload
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
19:28
@topskip Should've gone for Ruby.
topskip
topskip
@StephanLehmke my new language is "Go". Ruby sucks :)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Dec 6 at 16:53, by Paulo Cereda
Meanwhile, Fernanda Lima is on stage too. <3
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Best part of the World Cup so far. :)
@StephanLehmke Yes, yes, YES! I'm sick of Python suggestions. :P
Oh my, for the first time I'll have two workstations in my office! Kinda spoils you.
Do we have a link back to the main site from meta?
Does anybody here own a MacBook air?
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
20:18
@JosephWright Thank you! There was an external script call in the header, I removed it this morning. I will move the externally hosted blog to my own server soon, so I can protect it better.
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StefanKottwitz Good plan
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@JosephWright I rented a second server with 48 GB RAM, so plenty of space :-)
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@PauloCereda, @JosephWright:
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz Wait, WHAT?!
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
>Hi. I am a Japanese user of standalone package. This package is very nice to
manage graphics files, but I noticed some bugs in this and related packages.
Let me report them here.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
20:21
@MartinScharrer Oh my! For real?
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StefanKottwitz 48 Gb RAM: really?
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@PauloCereda Yep, and its a very good bug report.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright Not even our PS3's combined reach the computational power of Stefan. :)
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@JosephWright: There were some clipping related things in it, I could forward it to you.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@MartinScharrer Cool! :) Any fixes too? :)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
20:23
@JosephWright Yes! And 1 Gigabit/s bandwidth, with 200 Mbit/s guaranteed
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz This is probably not the kitchen one. Might be the one near the fireplace. :)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@JosephWright It's this one: hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StefanKottwitz Cost?
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@PauloCereda Yes, and he cited all related version numbers!!!
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz What is it running? :)
@MartinScharrer Oh my!
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
20:25
@JosephWright 59 Euro per month for the pure server - actually I pay more than 130 Euro or so for 2 servers and add-on IPs and a subnet and domains etc.
Don't let my wife know.
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Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@StefanKottwitz I pay 12,99euro/month for a virtual server. 59 Euro for a pure server sounds right.
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@MartinScharrer Cool: I've got various things to look at that for expl3
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@PauloCereda It's running Debian
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
I have the impression this must be a duplicate of something
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Q: How to fill a boxed code correctly

kostas Someone who knows how to fill with color only the box? \begin{shaded} \begin{lstlisting} if (a < b) { printf("A is smaller than B!\n"); } a = b; \end{lstlisting} \end{shaded}

listings color backgrounds
But all the questions I could find with search were more specific.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz No Fedora? :(
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
20:30
@JosephWright sent
@PauloCereda: I hope LaTeX was used for this poster: xkcd.com/980
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz I wonder if the server is registered for Farouk Kottwitz. :)
@MartinScharrer OMG
Ten bucks that @percusse can do that in TikZ and ten bucks that @David can do that with picture mode. :)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
@PauloCereda I already have Redhat, where Fedora is based on, at work, so the Debian is for the fun
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StefanKottwitz As long as it's not Ubuntu, you can even have CentOS. :)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@StefanKottwitz You can bet on getting this starred here ;-)
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StephanLehmke It's definitely a trap. :)
Stefan Kottwitz
Stefan Kottwitz
20:34
@StephanLehmke Well, so she will better understand why we don't afford a car
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@PauloCereda This one is similar, but smaller: xkcd.com/radiation
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@MartinScharrer Cool! :) I like this one very much. :)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@StefanKottwitz We can all send you "thankyou" mails you can show her.
@MartinScharrer I wonder how much research went into that...
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@MartinScharrer: I started to write a Pokémon table, but I didn't go far. Here's where I stopped:
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Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@StephanLehmke Yeah! Maybe it came from some official site. There is a CSV file with the data for download.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
20:37
@PauloCereda I can't see any ducks.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@StephanLehmke That's one of the problems. :)
Martin Scharrer
Martin Scharrer
@PauloCereda Aha
@PauloCereda: HAHA, xkcd.com/802_large
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@MartinScharrer LOL
Dopamine sea FTW!
@StephanLehmke:
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At least I captured a duck in my Pokémon game. :)
I play Pokémon. /blushes
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@MartinScharrer data.gov is certainly a possible source, but you still have to find and aggregate the stuff.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@topskip: aaah good times:
Jul 4 '12 at 10:58, by Paulo Cereda
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topskip
topskip
20:43
:))
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@DavidCarlisle One for you;
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Q: Alternating row colours in tabulary?

Oli WalkerI managed to get alternating row colours working when using tabular but when I converted them to tabulary to make the tables match \textwidth the row colouring became messed up. Now it completely ignore the defined starting row and also changes the colour of the rows depending on the number of r...

tables color tabulary
topskip
topskip
@StefanKottwitz that's only 10€ /month more than my server. It would be a good place to do my typesetting runs, until I fix the memory leaks...
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@StephanLehmke Herbert's answer is OK isn't it (I didn't check)
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@DavidCarlisle I think so, but I thought there might be a reason why it's not always reset...
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Let's all hack graphicx so for every \includegraphics, it includes this instead of the original image:
Torbjørn T.
Torbjørn T.
20:47
@StephanLehmke Perhaps tex.stackexchange.com/questions/133795/…?
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@StephanLehmke well I run tabular internally but I can't be expected to know to reset a counter added some years later by another package. Actually I do reset all LaTeX counters (as latex maintains of list of them for resetting at \include) but looks like xcolor just does a plain tex allocation \rownum not \c@rownum aka \setcounter{rownum} so it doesn't get reset.
Stephan Lehmke
Stephan Lehmke
@TorbjørnT. That's certainly a possiblility, but still much more complex somehow.
Maybe there should be a generic question "How do I use this feature which is explained in the manual" with one answer "Read the manual".
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Then all semantically equivalent questions could be marked as duplicates of it.
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@StephanLehmke good idea, although that still leaves questions for manual-less code like tikz
 
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Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
22:03
@PauloCereda Such doge
Papiro
Papiro
22:20
For Ipad users, a free application called Calligraphy Art, a $2.99 value :-) Get it in the App Store. It is free for 24 hours.
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@StephanLehmke Sounds good to me :-)
 
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Alan Munn
Alan Munn
23:32
My next badge goal: Populist with the competing answer by @egreg. tex.stackexchange.com/q/49444/2693 Still some work to be done, but I remain optimistic. :)
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@AlanMunn ooh I just helped:-) populist is tricky, I got within one here once but slipping back again now tex.stackexchange.com/questions/55400/what-does-z-do/…
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
@DavidCarlisle Now you're within 3 (or 4, I'm not sure how if the 2x threshold has to be met or actually exceeded by 1)
egreg
egreg
@AlanMunn Good luck. ;-)
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
@egreg The tricky part will be you getting more votes.
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright Yep. :)
@AlanMunn What do I need to do? :)
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
23:46
@PauloCereda Prepare your sockpuppet army.
@egreg I've been looking at a lot of art in the last few days. Does your love for modern music extend to modern art too?
egreg
egreg
@AlanMunn It depends. I like Klimt and other “abstract” artists. I definitely dislike clowns like Duchamp or Koons.
Alan Munn
Alan Munn
@egreg I just went to a Magritte exhibit and also a retrospective of Isa Genzken which were great. And I just saw a whole ton of Renoirs, most of which I didn't like. I agree with your opinion of Duchamp and Koons.

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