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Tezz
Tezz
01:44
@TheDestroyer I think the question asker looked our conversations we did yesterday about Gods not wanting liberation... he has written.. "That said, in effect, that the gods don't want man to discover his true nature because if they did, men would become the very self of the gods.Does anyone recognize this?"... haha
@KeshavSrinivasan Ok Thank You!
 
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The Destroyer
The Destroyer
03:27
@KeshavSrinivasan I just checked my Ista Deva from other site and it is Shiva. Even an astrologer told me to me to Shiva Temples as my Ista Deva is Shiva some 4 years ago when i was not interested in these things.
@KeshavSrinivasan Yes. That site has some problem.
rockingbaba.com/vedic/index/basicastroreply
I checked your Ista Deva in this site. It is Durga/Ganesha.
rockingbaba.com/blog/index.php/2015/10/08/what-is-isht-dev
If Mercury had 1 degree more, you would have gotten Vishnu as Ista Deva.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer 1degree of mercury error can come due to error in exact place degree,.. error in exact time and so on...
@TheDestroyer you yourself calculated... or that site calculated?...
@TheDestroyer Keshavas Rahu and Ketu have highest degree but Rahu and Ketu can never be Atma Kaaraka ... So his Atma Kaaraka is Mercury...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
03:47
@Tezz OK, but even if my Atma Karaka is Mercury, how do I determine the Ishta Devata from that? It says "look for the 12th house from Atmakarka in Navamsha chart"
@Tezz Here is my Navamsha chart:
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@Tezz What does "12th house from Atmakarka in Navamsha chart" mean?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan the 12th house from Atmakaaraka in Navamasha is Mars... which would make Hanuman /Narasimha as Ishta Devata...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Oh, that's cool.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan btw.. I'm not sure whether you should take Mercury as your Atma Kaaraka or not... because it is Retrograde...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Can you explain what "12th house from Atma Karaka" means?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan go on counting 12 anticlockwise from Mercury in your Navamasmsa...
You will reach Mars...
Which will be JeevanMukta Kaaraka...
@KeshavSrinivasan btw that site tells you have to pay Rs 31 and they will email Ishta Devata within 24 hrs...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
03:59
@Tezz Haha, I don't even believe in the Advaita notion of Ishtadevata, so I'm not interested enough to pay money for it.
@Tezz Although 31 rupees is a very small amount of money in US dollars.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan haha yes... anyway... you have Vishnu as your Ishta Devata... Hanuman Ishta means Rama as Supreme... who is Incarnation of Vishnu... so finally you will get Vishnu as Ishta Devata...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Haha yeah
@Tezz By the way, you said Mars also signifies Narasimha as Ishta Devata?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan so it might be hint.. that.. you should follow path as Hanuman did.. ie. Devotion... or Sharanagati or complete Surrender...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Yeah, that's perfect for a Sri Vaishnava.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan thats just my guess... as Mars is furious planet... and Narasimha is Ugra Avatar...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
04:03
@Tezz Oh ok
@Tezz By the way, have you tried calculating the Ishta Devata for yourself?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan No, I haven't calculated myself... I don't know why I havent done yet...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz I didn't get what is 12 th house from navamasmsa
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan upto now I have Hari Hara or Ardha Narishwara as my Ishta Devata... I don't know what my Kundali will show...
@TheDestroyer go on counting 12 numbers Anticlockwise from Atmakaaraka in Navamamsha....
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz It looks like you were right about Narasimha, here's what another website says: "Mars—Hanuman, Subramanya, Sri Narasimha" aapkikismat.com/…
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan btw... this is only Jaiminiya method... I think there are other methods as well...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
04:08
@Tezz I'm coming back to same planet..
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan haha... I think my guess worked...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Why is it called Jaiminiya, is there a work by Jaimini that discusses calculation of Ishta Devata?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer you should start from Atmakaaraka... you will reach just back of the same planet...
@KeshavSrinivasan there are two main systems of Vedic astrology... one Jaimini system and another Parashar system... they differ in some points... I don't know whether they differ in calculating Ishta or not...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Is calculation of Ishta Devata mentioned in any ancient astrological works or is it a later development in astrology?
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz I got Sun.
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
04:12
@TheDestroyer You got sun as Atmakaraka or you got sun after you counted 12 counterclockwise in the Navamsha?
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KeshavSrinivasan After counting 12.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer if you got sun... then Shiva or Vishnu I think...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KeshavSrinivasan The site you gave says Vishnu, Rama, Shiva
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan I don't know whether it's in Parashara Hora Shastra or not... any way but it has some basis on scripture... as Kundali described in Balakanda of Ramayana itself... and planets ruling by different Gods described in Yajurveda itself...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@TheDestroyer Haha, so it's ambiguous if you're a Vaishnava or Shaivite :-)
Tezz
Tezz
04:15
@KeshavSrinivasan haha...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@TheDestroyer I guess that kind of fits with your beliefs, like your devotion to Venkateshwara.
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KeshavSrinivasan @Tezz But they are Puranic Gods, why did they include hanuman? I think this is developed after Ramayana.
@KeshavSrinivasan Yeah. I also like Rama after Shiva. Even Venkateswara.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer it's based on ruling nature of planets and planet swabhva... like Mars has Kumara and Nrisimha... Kumara is Agni Putra and Nrisimha is Ugra Deva...
@TheDestroyer in case of Sun... Shivas Ishana form is in Sun.. he also controls sun, he even killed Sun... regarding Vishnu Sun came from neck of Vishnu....
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Yes, certainly the notion of gods ruling over planets is well-established throughout the Vedas and other Hindu scripture. But does the notion your Ishta Devata is based on the planetary positions of your birth have a basis in scripture?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer and Rama is Surya Vamshi...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
04:19
@Tezz Who was Rama and Krishna's Ista Deva?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan I'm not sure whether it is explicitly mentioned... but I think we can derive concepts even if it is not mentioned...
@TheDestroyer I don't Know about Rama... if we go by Puranic account Shiva will be his Ishta Devata... but Rameshwaram is not explicitly mentioned in ValmikiRamayana...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz haha. Don't we have charts of Rama and Krishna?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer regarding Krishna,... he says this in Anushashana Parva "O king, listen to me as I recite to thee that Sata-rudriya which I repeat; with restrained senses, every morning after rising from bed. The great lord of all creatures, viz., the Grandsire Brahman himself, endued with wealth of penances, composed those Mantras, after having observed especial penances for some time."...
@TheDestroyer I think in one comment moonstar2001 calculated Shiva as Ishta Devata...
@TheDestroyer we have Kundali of Rama and Krishna... but calculating Navamasha is not a easy task... Navamsha changes every 13 minutes...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz Well, i remember one thing. An Astrologer also told me to pray to Surya daily morning. Is this has any connection with this?
@Tezz Ohh..
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer if your calculation is right then Sun is your Jeevan Muktakaarka... so it may have connection... anyway worshipping Sun is worshipping Ishana form of Shiva as evident from Satapatha Brahmana... 1st Anuvaka of Sri Rudram also clearly says Sun is Rudra...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
04:25
@Tezz I think it would be obvious in Puranas that any Vishnu Avatar would pray mainly Shiva. We see this in many stories.
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz I just generated someone else's birth chart, and the planet with the highest degree is listed as "ascendant" meaning Lagna. Can Lagna be the Atmakaraka or does the Atmakaraka need to be an actual planet?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer yes Regarding Krishna I'm pretty sure his Ishta Devata is Mahadeva...
@KeshavSrinivasan Atmakaarka needs to be planet...
@TheDestroyer yes, nearly each incarnation of Lord Vishnu is seen to be worshipping Mahadeva...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Here is Krishna's birth chart: vedicstore.com/lordkrishna.html
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan so which is Atmakaraka of Krishna... divide by 12 and check each degree....
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz BTW, how can Shiva have birth chart? When was he born?
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
04:31
@Tezz Why divide by 12?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer Shankara was born (actually manifested) through Brahma...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz ok.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer by the way where did you find birthchart of Shiva...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz No. You said Shiva will have Shiva as Ista Deva. So, i asked you.
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz 224 is the largest number in the table, so wouldn't Saturn be the Atmakaraka?
Tezz
Tezz
04:32
@KeshavSrinivasan dividing by 12 seperates Rashi from degree ... and remainder is degree... whose remainder is greatest is Atmakaaraka...
@KeshavSrinivasan no that degree is mixed up with Rashi....
@TheDestroyer when did I tell that...?
@KeshavSrinivasan sorry... I told you to divide by 12... It's 30... we should divide by 30..
As there are 12 Rashis and 30×12 will make 360... which is total circle of Kundali...
@KeshavSrinivasan whose remainder is highest that is Atmakaaraka..
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz OK, 148 gives 28 degrees when divided by 30, so Jupiter is Krishna's Atmakaraka.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan that would make Saturn and Rahu in 12th from Navamsa...
@KeshavSrinivasan but I'm pretty sure Navamsa of Krishna is wrong... calculating 5000 years past Navamsa is nearly impossible..... due to precission of equinoxes...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz OK, Rahu has a greater remainder than Saturn when divided by 12.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan it's not to be divided by 12 but by 30...
@KeshavSrinivasan oh ... you are dividing in Navamsha chart...
@KeshavSrinivasan anyway... it's foolishness to calculate JeevamMukta kaaraka of such person... who is himself a cause to give Jeevan Mukta to others...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz No, I just divided by 12 by mistake. In any case, Rahu also has a greater remainder than Saturn when divided by 30.
@Tezz Well, I don't even believe in the notion of Jivanmukta.
Tezz
Tezz
04:46
@KeshavSrinivasan Rahu and Ketu can't be Atmakaaraka...
@KeshavSrinivasan here by Jeevam Mukta I mean giving Moksha..
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz No, not Atmakaraka. Jupiter is the Atma Karaka. Rahu and Saturn are in the 12th house from Jupiter.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan you previously told Jupiter has highest degree...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Yes, Jupiter does have the highest degree.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan now their power is not calculated by dividing by no... but by other factors... anyway Saturn dominates Rahu in all cases...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Oh ok
Tezz
Tezz
04:48
So we should give more priority to Saturn...
@KeshavSrinivasan btw... I think they calculated Navamsha evaluating Personality of Krishna rather than by birth date...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz So then Krishna's possible Ishtadevatas are "ShaniDev, Hanuman, Kurma, Shiva, Vishnu"
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan one notable astronomical event is Rama was afflicted by Mars during his Vanavasa... and Rama is Manglik... with Mars in 7th position ie . In Dampatya Sthana...
@KeshavSrinivasan we can at least rule out Shanidev, Hanuman from there... why would Krishna make his Ishtadevata Shani and Hanuman...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz Lol. Vishnu Himself made Rama to get affected by planets.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer haha... Vishnu just made coincidental circumstances....
@TheDestroyer @KeshavSrinivasan I think Krishna did Penance of Mahadeva for 12 years... at what age did he did that?...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz I think Krishna is beyond this Kundali. He knows He is God. Also, i think planets could never affect him even if we consider Him from neutral perspective (Not a Shaiva or Vaishnava view).
@Tezz I think 12 months.
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
04:55
@Tezz Wait a minute, it looks like that website itself analyzes Krishna's birth chart. It says Atmakaraka is Sun and Mokshakaraka is Ketu. I didn't know there's a difference between Atmakaraka and Mokshakaraka.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer another notable astronomical event is.. Dasharatha Kundalini was surrounded by Mars in his Dasha.. and I think Vasistha predicted it is death symptom... so he made immediate decision to give King ship to Rama..
But anyway he died... he couldn't escape by doing that...
I don't know whether this is mentioned in ValmikiRamayana or not...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz Is Sita also Mangalik? Because those who are Mangalik can only marry a person with Mangalik.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer I don't know Kundali of Sita...
@KeshavSrinivasan I think Mokshakaaraka is same as JeevanMuktakaaraka...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz But is that different from Atmakaraka?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan yes, I think Mokshakaaraka and Atmakaaraka are different...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
05:01
@Tezz OK, but we have to use Atmakaraka for Ishtadevata, right?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan yes Atmakaaraka is used...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz So if Sun is the Atmakaraka, then the 12th house from the Atmakaraka would be the 5th house, which is empty.
@Tezz Here's what you do if it's empty: "If no planet occupies this house then look for the planet aspecting the house. If no planet aspects the house then lord of the house will be used for knowing Isht Devta."
@Tezz What does "planet aspecting the house" mean?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan a planet aspects 7th house from it...
Mars aspects 4th and 8th house from it...
Jupiter aspects 5th and 9th house from it...
Saturn aspects 3rd and 10th house from it...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz OK, then in that case both Jupiter and Saturn aspect the house we are interested in.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan it has aspect or Drishti by both Saturn and Jupiter...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
05:07
@Tezz OK, so now how do we determine which is stronger?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan now it's difficult to calculate which is stronger... first we look which planet is situated in own or strong Rashi...
Saturn is in Vrishchik and Jupiter is in Dhanu...
@KeshavSrinivasan actually now we need Graha Bala chart to determine which planet is stronger ....
If we consider aspects weaker... then lord Of Leo is Sun...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Is this the chart you're looking for: books.google.com/…
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan yes from that we can know strength of each house and planet...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Wow, astrology is really complicated.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan vedicastrology . Com calculates that chart for every person in free...
Yes it can become very complicated...
@KeshavSrinivasan oh sorry it's here:
astrosage.com/kundli
It gives you 48 page kundali report to download in pdf....
It gives you upto D-60 chart... just as Navamsa or D-9 chart changes in 13 minutes... D-60 changes in seconds... they are useful in predicting future of twins....
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
05:26
@Tezz Haha wow
 
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The Destroyer
The Destroyer
09:01
@Tezz I just saw another crappy episode of Ancient Aliens: Cosmic Egg.
Tezz
Tezz
09:15
@TheDestroyer what does it say?.. does it say Cosmic egg is Hiranyagarbha?...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
09:41
@Tezz They talk about Brahmanda and link some random stories of egg in Greek mythology and finally to 3rd eye and Thalamus of Brain.
@Tezz More what they speculate is Cosmic Egg is source of life and all Universe will be absorbed into it later, same as Hindu Cosmology.
Tezz
Tezz
09:54
@TheDestroyer oh... ok...
Pandya
Pandya
10:34
@Tezz Have you read Chhandogya Upanishad?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya I have read in parts... not all...
Why?
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz I've just tried to answer this question where I quoted verse from Chhandogya 6.8.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes, I read it... actually I'm the second to read that answer and first to upvote...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz I think Sushupti is also explained in Brihadaranyak but I've not read it yet.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya I have also only read parts of BrihadAranyaka upanishad...
Pandya
Pandya
10:42
@Tezz ok; btw, How about the explanation from Chhandogya? I mean does it answer to the question?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes I think it answers the question: The main point ( I think) is in:
"Just as a bird tied by a string to the hand of the bird—catcher first flies in every direction and then finding no rest anywhere, settles down at the place where it is bound, so also the mind (i.e. the individual soul reflected in the mind), my dear, after flying in every direction and finding no rest anywhere, settles down in the Prana (i.e. Pure Being); for the mind (the individual soul) is fastened to the Prana (Pure Being).
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz yes, I've also titled it as "Why does Jiva rest in Supreme? Explained with example:"
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz If you're interested in free software, saravali.de may be good for astrology/horoscope.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya astrosage.com is free and good...
@KeshavSrinivasan someone is suggesting you to read Brahma Samhita.
Pandya
Pandya
10:54
@Tezz And If you want to purchase, (As far as I know) kundli123.net (Ekundli or Astro-Office)is unbeatable.
Just visited astrosage.com ; sounds also good...
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya I don't want to purchase... free version are actually avaliable why to purchase... actually I know how to prepare Kundali without using Software also... ie. by handwork ie. traditional calculation too...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz you know calculation.. excellent!
Sampatik kala, Sthanik kala, Samaya Samskara, then Isht Sampattik kala and 23-30 Lagna Sarani for Lagna/Janam Kundli. Then Avakahada Chakra for Mahadasha.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes, first time I made my Kundali... I didn't have software... latter I checked it in software and it exactly matched... I was very happy when I saw it matched...
@Pandya oh so... you also know to prepare without software...?
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz yes.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya oh nice... so are you astrologer?...
Pandya
Pandya
11:01
@Tezz Actually my father knows very well and I learnt some from him.
@Tezz Btw, Are you Jyotishi?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya No I'm not professional... but people family neighbours ask with me many times about jyotish related things.... just learned by reading and practicing...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz good.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya btw... what system does your father uses... Nirayana or Sayana...
In Aayanamsha...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz I think first
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya ok... most people use Nirayana system... I too use Nirayana system...
Pandya
Pandya
11:07
@Tezz your name refer to sanskritdictionary.com/teja/95228/1 or sanskritdictionary.com/teja/95227/1?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya both... haha
Pandya
Pandya
sanskritdictionary.com/tejasvin/16300/4 hehe (of earlier Tezz) and haha (of Keshava and recent Tezz!
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya oh... what is U. 6.14?...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz may be sa.wikibooks.org/wiki/…
@Tezz Btw, what are your favourite tags? on hi.SE /cc @KeshavSrinivasan @TheDestroyer
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I mean ^^ in your case
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya oh amazing it is:..
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रामः- नन्वयमलङ्कारः क्षत्रियस्य ।
न तेजस्तेजस्वी प्रसृतमपरेषां विषहते । स तस्य स्वो भावः प्रकृतिनियतत्वादकृतकः ।
मयूखैरश्रान्तं तपति यदि देवो दिनकरः किमाग्नेयो ग्रावा निकृत इव तेजांसि वमति ? ॥१४॥
Btw what is Uttara Ramcharitam?...
@Pandya I didn't knew there is something such as Favourite Tag....
Pandya
Pandya
11:20
@Tezz just open hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions and you'll find Favourite Tags (Edit) at right side column. Have you find?
@Tezz Have you added any/some tag in that?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes I find... it writes:
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@Pandya I haven't added it...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz I think you're on mobile browser or on PC?
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya I'm on mobile browser...
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz there might be Desktop link at the end of page click on it and you'll get desktop view
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
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@Pandya
Tezz
Tezz
11:23
@Pandya I don't know why scripture is not in the list of my favourite tags... I frequently use it..
Pandya
Pandya
@TheDestroyer ok
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz You put your favorite tags.
Tezz
Tezz
@Pandya yes I already did that and send that message to you...
@TheDestroyer I told it in previous message.. see
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz you've to add tags manually; they dont automatically set as per your frequent usage.
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz Yeah. Saw that.
Tezz
Tezz
11:26
@Pandya ok let it be.. when posting question... when we type first few letters it automatically comes... no problem...
@Pandya @TheDestroyer btw do you have tag badge...?
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz No.
Pandya
Pandya
@Tezz After adding your favourite tags, questions that use al-least one of your favourite tags is highlighted for you!
Tezz
Tezz
I earned four tag badges:
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@Pandya oh ok... upto now I didn't understand why some questions were highlighted and some not... Thanks for information...
 
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Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
13:16
@Tezz "someone is suggesting you to read Brahma Samhita." What do you mean, who is suggesting that?
@Tezz I don't think the Brahma Samhita is authentic, as I discuss in this question:
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Q: Are there any references to the Brahma Samhita before Chaitanya Mahprabhu?

Keshav SrinivasanAs I discuss in this question, one of the early movements that was important to the development of Vaishnavism was the ancient Pancharatra movement, whose sacred texts consisted of detailed procedures to worship the sage Narayana, an ancient incarnation of Vishnu. The Pancharatra movement eventu...

scripture vaishnavism pancharatra gaudiya-vaishnavism chaitanya
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan actually I used that sentence in the sense of joke... btw... you are suggested here... hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/3665/…
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
14:02
@Tezz Oh haha
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
14:26
@Tezz By the way, were you able to use the charts to find out if Jupiter or Saturn is stronger for Krishna?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan I don't think Astrosage.com can work in date which is in BC... that too in 3000 BC...
And I don't know how to make it without software...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Oh, the chart here doesn't give the information needed? books.google.com/…
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan oh... it gives a complex method... Maybe @Pandya knows it to make it....
@KeshavSrinivasan anyway I don't believe that someone calculated Navamsa of Krishna... at least we can prepare Kundali because we have verses from scripture....
Otherwise there is a cycle causing precission of equinoxes of 25600 years (around) which causes polar star to change... so it causes significant difference in 5000 years....
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
14:42
@Tezz Isn't it possible to account for the precession of equinoxes in the calculaion?
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan it is possible but as Navamasa is a highly sensitive data... ie. It changes just in 13 minutes... so highly precise equipments are needed...
@KeshavSrinivasan another method is by evaluating whole life activity of Krishna.. a technique known as Time Rectification....
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
15:44
@KeshavSrinivasan i protected that question. Is it ok?
@Tezz
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer which question...?
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz
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Q: Afterlives of Vasudeva, Devaki, Nandagopa and Yashoda

AbyDo we have any account of the afterlives of Vasudeva, Devaki, Nandagopa and Yashoda? I generally hear about Nandagopa and Yashoda's last incident to be while they were being separated from Krishna, i.e. Krishna going to Mathura. About Vasudeva and Devaki, the last thing I heard was that they were...

mythology krishna yashoda
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer oh ok... I've no problem....
@KeshavSrinivasan can you edit others comment?...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz Yes, I can edit others' comments and chat messages.
Tezz
Tezz
@Brahma jijnasa I'm saying if it's not quoted by Acharya before 1300 AD it's fake... I'm just saying "From that information or dating of Wiki we know that no Acharya before 1300 AD quoted it."... Regarding language matter... it doesn't matter whether one accepts ot not... but you yourself can find difference when you read scripture in Sanskrit... – Tezz 10 mins ago delete
@KeshavSrinivasan edit that comment and place not... ie. Make "I'm not saying..."
I forgot to place not...
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
15:55
@Tezz OK, I edited it.
Tezz
Tezz
@KeshavSrinivasan Ok.... Thank you!
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@KeshavSrinivasan You can edit others also..... That's cool.
Keshav Srinivasan
Keshav Srinivasan
@Tezz You're welcome
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta that's advantage of being moderator...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz Accha.
Tezz
Tezz
15:58
@KrishnShweta yes,...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
16:15
@Tezz Well, I helped one guy in Electrical Engineering chat room today.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta what did you helped...?
I think you helped by teaching how to put bulb in a holder... isn't it...? Haha... @KrishnShweta
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz He asked about How to calculate forward current in PN junction diode.
@Tezz 0.o
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta oh teach me... I also need that...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/15
@Tezz Do you know PN junction diode?
@Tezz I don't think you have come across this in your 12th.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta yes I know it comes in semiconductor chapter...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
16:20
@Tezz Oh!! That's good.
Tezz
Tezz
PN junction diode... make P by adding Trivalent N by adding pentavalent...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz Good.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta anyway... I don't need that question... that formula is higher than our level....I first time saw it...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz Yeah.
But why people are so bad in this world?
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta and semiconductor chapter is the most boring chapter in the whole physics book for me... but I like other physics chapters related to electrooics like AC, and others...
@KrishnShweta you find whom bad...?
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
16:25
They just use others when they need. Silly people.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta It's Kaliyuga... one can do anything...
I just heard in You Tube two womens in India killed 42 childrens....
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz Beared this silly people from almost 1 year. But now I'm not bearing. Thank God.
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KrishnShweta It's cyclic actually. Satvas - Rajas - Rajas and tamas - Tamas - Satvas....
@Tezz Why did they kill?
@KrishnShweta At end of Kali Yuga, too much of tamas will get converted to Satvas.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta world is mysterious... very mysterious than we think ... that's it...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz But still, I think they will come back for sure. As their nature, take help when they need for their shit.
@TheDestroyer Hmm....
Tezz
Tezz
16:30
@TheDestroyer for no special reason... they used to pickpocket... if someone caught they used to throw children in road and run... they kidnapped those childrens...
2 Indian Women on Death Row for Killing 42 Children, First Women To Be Hanged in India - TV9
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@KrishnShweta I have no idea:
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz That's big mafia. All those beggars kidnap infants and put them on their laps or carry them by giving sedative drugs so that babies never cry. This mafia earns crores daily. Kali Yuga is such that and we can't blame kali Dharma also. This is Karma of all of us.
@KrishnShweta Whom you are referring?
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer yes blaming Kali Dharma is of no use.. it's all our karma... but coincidental circumstance is created by God... so that it seems...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz Yes. Kali was born from Brahma, the creator. And nothing happens without reason.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer yes:..
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@TheDestroyer Are you asking about the silly people I was talking?
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
16:41
@KrishnShweta It seems you are angry on someone. Who are they?
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@TheDestroyer Hmm... They are my friends.
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KrishnShweta Ok. you should take them as grain of salt.
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer we should also take vegetables with a grain of salt... haha...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@Tezz one grain of Salt will not add anything to vegetables :P
Tezz
Tezz
@TheDestroyer haha... big grain... salt of ancient times...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
16:48
@TheDestroyer @Tezz BTW, your Grain of salt transformed my anger to smile :)
Thanks.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta actually @TheDestroyer is saying one grain of salt will do nothing... but it did to you...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz @TheDestroyer Do you have any suggestions to have a good sleep? I mean what should I do for that?
Sleeping pills?
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta I think sleeping pills are dangerous....
You should read... most people sleep when they read...😃
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KrishnShweta Lol. No need. This is what i do if i miss my sleeping times are improper.. Get up early at 5:30 one day and don't sleep the entire day. You will get sleep by 11:00 PM.
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz I have sleeping pills but never tried.
Tezz
Tezz
16:54
@KrishnShweta another actual solution is yoga... which keeps body fit... gives deep sleep... everything...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KrishnShweta Lol. Don't go for pills. Yeah as @Tezz said, try Yoga. I stopped these days but should resume it shortly.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta upto now ... by God's grace... I have no problem in sleep... I always have sound sleep...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@TheDestroyer Daily I'm sleeping after 2:30. Then I woke up at 6:30 or 7:00. I won't sleep in day time also.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta why do you sleep so late?...
Just 4 hrs sleep is not sufficient...
One needs at least 6 hrs...
I sleep for about 7hrs...
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz Yoga. I have never did.
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
16:57
@KrishnShweta really? You should sleep for 7-8hrs. Else, your brain doesn't work properly.
Tezz
Tezz
@KrishnShweta at least you can just concenterate on Ajna Chakra for about 5 min daily... That is also Yoga...
The Destroyer
The Destroyer
@KrishnShweta yeah do meditation. Try to stop all thoughts for 5 minutes.
Krishn Shweta
Krishn Shweta
@Tezz @TheDestroyer I go to bed at 12:30 mostly. But still I'll be awake for 1 or 2 hrs. Without doing anything. I don't even use fone.
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