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12:01 AM
This gets better. There's a guy on the flyer they left on my door and I call him. He wants to meet with me tomorrow. I'm like "WHy do we need to meet?" He says he can give me better prices. He says "I can get you $49.95 for 1 gigabit". I say "For 6 months? Yeah, that's what your site says". He says "No, a year". Me: "Okay, coo, and 69.95 after that?" Him: "No, normal price after that.
LITERALLY THE SAME PRICE OVER 2 YEARS
This company feels scummy
 
@Sterno If it helps, since this is an ISP, then @Frank would no doubt agree with you!
And we all love it when you two agree
 
@Ave this stream is a fever dream lol
 
Ave
@Unionhawk ikr, I'm watching it now
it's 3am an dI need to work tomorrow
 
But like also every now and then someone from mermaids comes on and grounds everything, or like earlier where someone came on like "yeah mermaids saved my life"
 
Ave
it gives me hope
 
user15026
12:10 AM
@Sterno That's....certainly a thing they can do i guess? NUMBERS!
 
Actually maybe that would be a better deal if I only get locked in for a year. Because I don't really need a gigabit. 100/25 is plenty
 
We just dropped to only internet on spectrum and YouTube tv
Since spectrum tv was like $85
 
Yeah I did that a few months ago
Just get internet now from spectrum but that's still $70/month
well, $60/month + 10/month for "technology fees" or some shit... i.e., you have to use their modem
In other news
 
The other ISP in town doesn't have fiber run to our street yet unfortunately
 
user15026
@Sterno Forgive me if I just let my phone die instead
 
Ave
12:21 AM
owen jones is coming
and tim sterlnig is in vc
and chelsea manning
it's like smash ultimate, everyone IS here
 
user15026
12:48 AM
That stream makes me realize I played very little of DK64
 
So one upside to doing a mission to a station 500k LS from the drop in point is it made me do a few chores, like preparing my lunch for tomorrow
 
@Wipqozn yeah that's about a 13 minute cruise according to rats wiki
 
@Unionhawk sounds about right
Clark terminal in the mulachi system
Just closing in on it now
 
I'm headed out to the Omega sector to both help the communists there and to get a 5kly trip under my belt for an engineer
The system has I think a Corp and a workers party
 
240k delivery so it's worth it
 
12:56 AM
Yeah that's solid
 
uh wtf
 
now that she's gone i can post the moment discord crapped its pants
 
I got the station
and my controls just compleetly fucked up
I could't get out of the menu, or press esc
so I had to force quit it
second time something like that's happened to me
 
That's... Weird
 
Some buttons worked some didn't
I don't know wtf happened
But I was at the station so I force quit our of worry of crashing into something
It cost me 30k
Since I got a bonus
 
1:15 AM
OH WELL. Still got 240k, bringing me too 800k.
You can get credits in this game very quickly
 
It used to be way slower
They buffed missions, mining, hunting, exploring,
(mining saw a small nerf in the 3.3.02 patch though)
 
@Unionhawk yeah I could've sworn you didn't get money this quickly at launch, but I also only played for 2 hours at launch
 
(you can also technically deep core mine in adder but internal space is super tight... It'd probably be really annoying)
(with only 8 limpets)
 
@Unionhawk I haven't done mining at all yet
I've basically just done exploration and missions
all trading based missions
I haven't done any deep space exploration though
 
@Wipqozn it'd be really hard to do but technically possible
Diamondback or cobra would probably be more than adequate
 
1:25 AM
Right now I'm mostly just doing trading missions, and doing FSS in any systems that have any decent bodies
it's brought me in a bit of extra cash.
@Unionhawk yeah diamondback is what I'm probably going to get next. With an exploration build, which I think it's good for.
 
If you find an earth-like, DSS will get you around a million
 
Once I get a diamondback I'll probably do some real deep space exploration. I need to actually get to an edge of inhabited space for that though.
@Unionhawk Don't have one of those yet. I need to buy it. I miiiight wait until I upgrade to a new ship.
 
I scanned Founders World the other day and found out it was worth 1
 
Also, how do I find the edge of inhabited space...?
Basically if I want to just go off and discover a bunch of systems like Captain Picard, where do I need to fly to?
Because I know 99% of the galaxy is unexplored, but the system map is just so hard to parse through
 
Inhabited space is shown approximately in the power play map view
 
1:29 AM
@Unionhawk Okay that'll help a lot, then. Thanks.
 
My long journeys all have a particular end point, like right now, towards the Omega nebula
I'll probably head to the heart and soul nebula at some point
Those are 7.5k from base
But in a different sector of the galaxy which is exciting
 
I keep forgetting to close the launcher when I close the game
SILLY ME
I'll probably be able to afford a Diamondback scout before long
I've got enough cash for the ship itself, but I'll need extra cash for modules + insurance.
Not far off though
It's only 560k, and I'm at 800k.
I think when I hit 1 million credits I'll buy it
 
1:49 AM
coriolis.io is a good planner
 
Although then it's like "Should I just skip the scout and save for the explorer?"
 
eh
 
also the dolphin looks really snazzy.
 
I'd go for a stepping stone from adder, imo
 
Yeah that's what I'll do
I mean I'd want 3 million in the bank before I was comfortable buying the explorer
so that's a bit more far off then the 200k I need for 1 mill
and once I get the scout I think I'll convert my adder to trading and/or mining
@Unionhawk so is the wiki just horribly out of date?
 
1:55 AM
Probably?
That depends
 
well it's conflicting at least
like this page
> As an Explorer the Scout is very effective. At 30lYs without engineering the scout has a high range for its price tag. The downside is that the Hauler and Adder can both outdo it in this aspect.
Which suggests it gets less jump range than the hauler or adder, but that doesn't seem to be the case at all from all the numbers I can see
 
It's a marginal difference at best
DBS gets 29.64 when I hit the "explorer" button on coriolis (which is a stupid loadout that I would never use), Adder gets 30.42 with that preset
 
oh well I just noticed one thing
was looking at the wrong stats
total jump is much higher on the scout
More than happy to possibly trade a barely noticible jump range difference to be able to make more jumps without needing to refuel
 
Wow the internals there are... Not great. Slightly better I guess?
3 3 and a 2 vs 2 3, 2 2, and a 1
 
Right now every star I come across seems to let me refuel, but I've gathered that wont' always be the case
 
2:04 AM
Honestly Cobra 3 might just flat out be a better multirole
@Wipqozn you can refuel from stars of class KGBFOAM
Which is most but not all
 
@Unionhawk Well the scout would probably be a dedicated explorer, and then I'd keep the adder around for multirole
and then eventually I'd upgrade the adder as well
I mean why not, really.
@Unionhawk Yeah I knew it wasn't all stars, but if it's most that would explain it
"it" meaning why I always seem able to refuel
 
Main sequence are the most common
 
oh the cobra IS a lot cheaper than the scout though
 
Yeah I'm honestly questioning the balance of DBS lol
DBX is solid though
Also have you named your ship
 
@Unionhawk I didn't even know that was a thing
 
2:10 AM
Dock and go to livery
Anywhere there is outfitting anyway
 
I kinda wanna buy the callsign and ship name decals.
 
You can set a ship name and ID, and change to Jefferson for free
(the voice for your COVAS)
I need a good name for my hunter
I'm happy with my miner and rat, but
 
@Unionhawk *******
 
(the charlimit is however long "the means of productio" is)
 
Yeah I think I'll grab the cobra instead. I should be able to comfortably afford it now too.
 
2:18 AM
I really like my Diamondback Explorer. Nice mix of functionality and form.
I really like its silhouette compared to a lot of the other ships.
 
Oh yeah I miss my dbx
It fits sideways in a mailslot!
No other ship except maybe the sidewinder or hauler can say that
maybe dolphin
If you're exactly centered
 
@Yuuki Yeah I plan to buy the dbx once I can afford it
 
I'm happy with my krait though
It fits all the modules I need to rat very comfortably
 
I don’t like how wide the silhouette is.
 
Inspiration hit again http://bit.ly/2sC2VDG
 
2:26 AM
In fact, I don’t like how most ships in ED have that wide body shape.
 
lmao
I looked up the definition of Donkey Kong 101% on http://speedrun.com
2
 
@Unionhawk Accurate
 
3:09 AM
Also this is so interesting to me - which way do you draw an X? Colored line being the first stroke
 
3:26 AM
@GodEmperorDune 8
 
7 for me
 
@GodEmperorDune yeh i thought it was 7 until i saw 8 had yellow and mistook the black for purple in 7
might have helped if i opened up the image on a new tab
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune 7, and I connect the bottom of 1 and the top of 2 to make it one stroke more often than not
 
3:49 AM
I do 7 unless I’m writing in the context of math
 
4:07 AM
@Unionhawk So is there a way to find out if there's something interesting on a landfall planet without actually landing and SRV'ing around?
 
A surface scan will identify any geological, biological, xenological, or human sites
eddb.io can tell you about material percentages
 
I think the scan tells you too?
 
So there are planets/moons that are landable but also have nothing?
 
If you go to the system map and select the planet
 
I scanned a moon and there's nothing under the "locations" category.
 
4:12 AM
@Yuuki Everything has some sort of materials at least but otherwise yeah, most landable things don't have anything outside the bubble
 
hmm I need to adjust my route
no fuel stars left
GLAD I DETOURED THIS ROCKS
 
Do you still need to travel far from the source to get good prices on your exploration data or did they change that?
 
You need to travel 20LY to sell at all but other than that no
 
4:47 AM
chuck tingle is currently on
my clip button crashed otherwise that would have been [chuck tingle says trans rights](clips.twitch)
oh my god
holy shit
 
... What happens if someone docks in my spot?
 
ah so that bug isn't fixed
relog lol
try flipping to solo if that doesn't help
or resubmit the docking request
(exit the bay if you're in a big station first!)
 
5:06 AM
Hot damn, 6 million credits in exploration data.
 
I'm 7j from the omega sector station woo
should be a bunch of firsts
 
5:45 AM
Hmm... should I drop the weapons from my Explorer?
I currently have two gimballed multi-cannons and one gimballed burst laser.
Thinking about dropping the multi-cannons.
 
I run weaponless
On all except my Hunter for obvious reasons
 
 
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10:21 AM
Hello Chat
 
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Q: How to throw a video with Rockstar cheaters or how to make it come to?

FeniXSTwo cheaters came across, one spawned Opressors MK2, and the second was 4 lvl, with all the weapons, then he started shooting Molotov cocktails, I wrote everything down, then I started writing they said they were and they, I was kicked, then banned altogether.

 
@Nzall Hello
 
I have a bit of a challenge right now
on Friday I've refactored the CSS for the error page on my company's flagship product
I've already created a deliberately crashing error, but I'd also like to trigger a crash more naturally
so I need to find a way to make the program crash, essentially, but it needs to crash in a quite specific way, actually
Not on an asynchronous action, because those are handled through Javascript
Not on an action that catches the error, because those don't trigger an error page;
 
Good luck. I think it is harder to intentionally cause an error than unintentionally
 
And it needs to be the right kind of exception, because a lot of our exceptions are also caught
And it has to happen while in Struts2, because stuff like jsp rendering errors are handled by Tomcat and not by Struts2
 
10:51 AM
@Unionhawk Awesome
 
11:06 AM
@Nzall I usually just go to the root view and throw new Error, but I think you already have that covered
 
@PrivatePansy Yeah, I already made an action that just does Throw New FatalException(), but I also wanted to find a way to trigger it more naturally
fortunately, I already found one
 
Go find a controller handling a form and make it throw is another good option
 
@PrivatePansy It's not that simple. I had to find an action definition in our Struts.xml file that didn't have our ErrorHandlerInterceptor defined
and then I had to go and muck about in the database so it would throw an exception
 
TIL the WaPo has Twitch account which livestreams a segment called Playing Games with Politicians
 
Ave
god I hate this so much
fuck transphobes
@Memor-X okay here's the worst part
if I ban this person I'll be "triggered sjw" and will be attacked
but as I'm letting them stay they're attacking trans people
 
11:24 AM
kick them
being a "triggered sjw" is not as bad as some hateful ass continuing to spread hate
 
Ave
@Memor-X I raised a complaint. Someone will ban them if they deem it to be necessary.
 
@Ave better than nothing
i assume this is Discord?
 
I think if a ban is justified, a ban should be applied even if they say that you are a "triggered sjw"
If the person is a transphobe, their argument will only be heard by other transphobes
Not their arguments. Their complaints*
 
Ave
@Memor-X yes
one of them outright told me to kill myself
very fun
 
11:40 AM
@Ave changing the subject a bit, a server that I am part of has a system that you have to react on a message on the rules board. When you do that, all the other rooms show up. Is that a thing you can do in native discord or do you think that is a bot checking the status and enabling the channels?
Because my role didn't change. I just got access to the channels, so it is not like a role-bot
 
Ave
@Moacir you need a bot
 
(Unless there are two roles with the same name but different permissions)
@Ave For a simple bot like this, with low bandwidth(I suppose), do you recommend any free hosting?
 
Ave
@Moacir no clue. I can host for you if you want, but making it role-based is MUCH smarter
 
@Ave Got it. I'll try to host it at my machine first, then I'll see if I need it 24/7. Thanks for the offer!
 
Ave
I have 2 bots that do this btw, in case you want to base code on them
 
11:45 AM
Can you link them for me?
Can bot create rooms and roles?
 
Ave
mhm
github.com/akbkuku/discord-bot github.com/aveao/robocop-ng < these ones deal with many moderation things, but also verification before getting into a discord
gitlab.com/ao/rolebot < this one deals with role creation and many other things around roles
 
Thank you
I'll study them
My idea was like, have a #suggestion channel, where any user can post a single name/word. Then if X other users react to it, the bot creates the room (either voice or text), and gives the role to everyone that reacted to that message
 
Ave
ah that's doable
 
The objective is to have a gaming groups that users could create and organize who has which game, and be allowed to use such chats
Possibly when a user post on suggestion, the bot will delete the person comment and will make its own, to avoid people create "secret" rooms, by waiting the bot to give the roles, then deleting the message, avoiding people to react on it
 
12:27 PM
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1:46 PM
@Wipqozn but wait, there's more (I powered my way through my 2 waypoints all the way to Omega)
 
1:57 PM
I'll probably r2r about 100ly around the mining operation station then head back to get my fully engineered thrusters
 
Nice
I still haven't used that app
I really want to play now haha
I'll be splitting my time between that age re4 tonight and tomorrow
I'm almost done my professional run, and I want to finish up before re2
 
thank you @Hbomberguy 💜
I'm sorry 64 different people have submitted a DK 64 101% run?
The stream finished early this morning (around 4am EST). The final total was around $339,000.
@Hbomberguy, Credit to @Devild_Avacado for the idea
 
2:46 PM
@Unionhawk that's awesome
 
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3:02 PM
@Lazers2.0 If you do drop by chat then answer is no, don't bother with the other games then.
 
Yeah I never played dream team but I imagine it's the same format as superstar saga, really
Which I did play and like, but to each their own
 
user15026
Yeah, all of the games are pretty similar. If you didn't like one you won't like the others. (I'm his opposite, I have played them all and loved them)
 
thanks for the feedback @Wipqozn , @Ash and @Unionhawk
 
3:24 PM
I'm not certain where you've been asking qualitative questions on SE, but question scope is one of those things you can't really use cross-site experience for.
 
Game recommendations fell out of scope for software recs even lol
they were originally on-topic
 
I recommend that you play all the games, because they are fun.
 
Anyone know how to use mongo?
 
3:43 PM
🤔
I've spent an entire day pondering this and have made no progress.
 
@Yuuki Best I can find is 1-2-4-3-5-6 from top to bottom
 
Maybe it's Yoda and is actually in the right order
 
Or 3-2-4-1-5-6
Hit Yourself at 3rd Floor, you will thank us 3 months from now
 
564312
 
3 months from now you will hit yourself at 3rd floor, thank us
It doesn't make sense per say
 
3:50 PM
Oh hang on, maybe it's "KIT" yourself, not "Hit yourself"
and their font is just really bad
 
No the K in thank
 
Kit yourself at 3rd flor. You will thank us 3 months from now
oh right
 
@Nzall That makes the most sense
 
@Ronan Maybe it has low clearance and getting muscular makes you taller as everyone knows
 
Hit yourself three months from now, you will thank us at 3rd floor?
 
3:52 PM
I guess the person who put the signs there didn't know the order either
 
user15026
@Yuuki this is confusing maybe they hit themselves too many times
 
user15026
 
user15026
This is how I get through minus 20 feels like minus 30
 
@Ash It used to be "thank yourself" and "hit us" but they had one too many concussions and decided to change their policy.
 
user15026
@Yuuki Hahaha that's gotta be it
 
3:54 PM
I think it is edited to be confusing
 
@kamuro np! I've certainly been in the same situation before.
 
For the Discord users among us: Does the web client remember the last channel you visited on a server per-device or globally? Like, if I last was in channel X on my home machine and I then open that server on my work machine, does it open on channel X or does it open on the last channel I opened on my work machine?
Because there is 1 channel on 1 of the 20 or 30 servers I'm member of that's NSFW, so I'd REALLY rather not have that one be opened on accident on my work machine
 
Not something I would risk too
 
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4:40 PM
Be careful on the roads today fellow Canucks, my girl spun her car on the highway this morning
Hue
I wear this in public all the time, maybe I shouldn't
 
The Punisher (Netflix original series, 2017)
Including @thegoodcatboy (cc @ellenfromnowon) and @AOC in a Scottish parliamentary motion offering congratulations to the phenomenal fundraising effort by @Hbomberguy for @Mermaids_Gender may be the pinacle of my career to date! #ThanksGraham
 
@Unionhawk Awesome
 
"oh no" comics are the best
 
> "oh no" comics are best
> author releases a poorly made comic
> "oh no"
 
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This is why we need to invent bio-interfaced computer chips. If everyone has Wikipedia in their head, we'll never have another game identification question.
 
5:23 PM
@SepiaLazers How are we still having this discussion?
 
@Wrigglenite I think you should ask that question on Meta
 
I like how it mentions that it is unwelcoming. I mean, the user come here, doesn't read the rules, doesn't try to do it right, and then the blame is here, not the user.
When you try to join a new community, it is not the community job to make itself welcoming to accept anything you do as a "oh, whoops, you didn't read our rules did you? It's ok", leaving a precedent for even more users to do the same
 
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5:54 PM
@SepiaLazers For another bit of backstory, the same user previously asked this question
 
6:09 PM
@Wrigglenite I think Sepia Lazers just needs to ensure their own job security
 
It wouldn’t be the arqade if we didn’t have someone trying to get us to do bad game id questions every other month.
I unfortunately cannot open arqade on my work pc, though I can go to other se sites :(
 
Is it because the "gaming" word on the url? Like, if you find another SE question that has gaming on it, is it blocked?
 
Yes
Board and card games is also blocked
Though movies and sci-fi arent
 
6:41 PM
About the question with a soundcloud link: Could it be that the user has no intention to know where is it from and just link to his own soundcloud trying to ramp up his numbers? Or that is not how soundcloud works?
 
ehhhhh, it seems more likely to me that it's just "here is my recording of the audio uploaded to a place that I can upload to"
 
@Moacir It's possible but I think it's unlikely in this case
 
oh hey, I unlocked the exploration engineer
I was wondering who the heck that Farseer lady was
 
@Wipqozn oh yeah, increased range FSD engineering is so good
 
Also pretty sure her name is a nod to the Realm of the Elderlings by Robin Hobb
cc @InvaderSkoodge
@Unionhawk I'll need to actually talk to her tonight or what have you
 
6:45 PM
She also does grade 3 thrusters, so you can get up to grade 3 dirty drives
to go fast
 
GOTTA GO FAST
 
(I don't know what Clean does, I just know Dirty means Go Fast)
(I think my krait boost speed gets up to 600 once I'm completely done)
 
@Wrigglenite Got it. I always expect the worse from random strangers online
 
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