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10:00 PM
oh okay.
 
Can't decide if I should hit this $2271 Submit button.
 
we won't kill you and your entire family tree and ancentry if your question get closed
@Sterno I'm asking what the $2271 button is for
 
A fancy new PC
 
@badp I know. Asking beforehand doesn't hurt, though. It could have been the 100% response in unison was "hell, no, not another damn mod recommendation!". ;-)
 
@Sterno VR?
 
10:02 PM
If VR means virtual reality, no. If it means anything else, I have no idea what you're asking
 
yes that's what I meant
4k monitor then?
 
No. Eventually, maybe, but not through them.
 
so... 144 Hz monitor?
 
@GnomeSlice I think my grandpa has that jacket...
 
No monitor. I'll play all my games by sound alone
 
10:04 PM
it kinda sounds like maximum overfutureproof
just by the price tag alone
 
What comes in this $2271 computer
 
That's how I do it. I get them maximum overfutureproof so they last an extra 2 months for an extra $1k
Case 1 x NZXT S340 Gaming Case Design by Razer
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i7 5820K Processor (6x 3.30GHz/15MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core™ i7 5820K
Processor Cooling 1 x Asetek 510LC Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-2011] - Free Upgrade to Asetek 550LC (Standard 120mm Fan)
Memory 1 x 32 GB [8 GB x4] DDR4-2800 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4GB - Single Card
Free Stuff 1 x [FREE] - 802.11AC Dual Band Wireless USB Adapter - FREE with iBUYPOWER Desktops
Motherboard 1 x ASRock Fatal1ty X99X Killer/U3.1 -- 3x PCIe x16, 4x USB 3.0, 1x USB 3.1
 
When you open the box, it's outdated.
 
I mean, that Office 365 trial alone is worth $500
 
Jesus. an i7 5820?
 
10:05 PM
Don't do it.
That processor blows
at least go with the 5830
 
Liquid cooling? I hope you like regular maintenance.
 
It's an all-in-one
no maintenance
 
> *Newest Microsoft Windows*
> Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!]
 
standard gaming mouse? what a loser, man. does it even have at least 15 buttons?
 
Self-contained and sealed? that might not be bad then.
 
10:07 PM
also, liquid cooling isn't that complicated. Use distilled water, and a kill coil, and you're good to go.
 
@Sterno I'd rip out some of the expensive parts and buy a 980Ti instead, at least that makes a big difference.
 
I haven't touched my loop in... oh.... 16 months?
 
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Maybe I'm behind on liquid cooling tech, but don't you have to flush the thing and put in new fluid once a year?
 
Free Stuff 1 x [FREE] - 802.11AC Dual Band Wireless USB Adapter - FREE with iBUYPOWER Desktops

Wireless Network Adapter 1 x [802.11a/b/g/n/ac] TRENDnet TEW-805UB AC1200 Dual-Band Wireless USB 3.0 Adapter - 867Mbps AC + 300Mbps N bands
 
10:07 PM
@MadScientist His processor only supports 28 PCI lanes as well. if he ever goes to a 2 card solution he's screwed
@MadMAxJr I haven't had to - but maybe that's best practice?
I'd be willing to bet you need to do that if you use shit other than regular water
 
I know external wifi adapters are literally the worst, so is that why you have two?
 
but I just use distilled water
 
I don't see anything in there that would actually be worth the high price, but I'm not really up-to-date with the absolutely current hardware
 
@badp wifi is the worst
 
fuvking octransoo in ginba freese ti desth
5
 
10:08 PM
Nothing on that list is really top-tier
definitely not 3k
 
Rush Service (Comes with my Rush mixtape)
 
my fingers ate si nimv
numb
 
@badp I'm pretty sure it's just one listed twice. And only because it was free.
I like how you guys are trying to talk me into spending EVEN MORE MONEY
 
sun went down
cold
 
10:10 PM
@Sterno build it yourself for half that price
 
said my bus arrived but nope
like 45 mins late now
 
@GnomeSlice walk towards the light man
3
 
Just go into your local computer store, hold out your wallet and say, "Just reach in and take out however much you need to build me an eternal, all-powerful, gaming PC."
 
@Ampt You say that, but when I looked at the prices on NewEgg it wasn't far off
 
@GnomeSlice :(
 
10:10 PM
@Sterno Really? Did you look at the actual products you were getting?
The processor and Mobo are the fanciest things on there - everything else is pretty mid-range
 
I don't like the fact they list the ram as 'Corsair or major brand'
 
@MadMAxJr i3 + 2gb ram + gt290 is teh best and it just costs 10k sir.
 
I kinda like to know what I'm getting.
 
The video card is $530
 
@Sterno Do you have a list with prices? I'm not sure what exactly is that expensive in your list, but you're far above the usual price for a reasonably high-end PC
 
10:11 PM
$670 for the Ti
 
@Sterno Ti is op, buy Ti.
 
If this is a pre-build though, the warranty isn't the worst idea.
 
just know that it's definitely overkill for 1080p60
 
@Aequitas I should do that.
 
10:13 PM
I mentioned the Ti because it's a pretty large performance boost, even though it is much more expensive than I'd spend on a GPU. But it's almost certainly more effective than spending more money on other parts
 
Also I loved the fact that Rise of the Tomb Raider on Steam costs about half the price of the console price. Edit: Nope just on turkey
 
Dear XKCD. New What If articles, please.
 
gg winter
 
Note Ti series does not contain actual titanium.
 
10:15 PM
that's the vast majority of your computer
 
$389 processor
$135 SSD
$160 HDD
$300 RAM
$240 Mobo
$530 video card
$100 Windows 10
 
@Sterno look at logicalincrements.com, everything above exceptional is overkill unless you have fancy monitors or go VR. Then just splurge the cash difference into the best GPU money can buy
 
@MadMAxJr but it DOES go faster
 
@Sterno that adds up to $1854
 
That's about $1850, and that doesn't have the case or PSU yet and maybe some other minor shit, which I'd looked up but can't find now
 
10:16 PM
what's the other $400?
 
@Sterno $100 Win 10 home?! reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap
 
So sure, it'd be cheaper to do it myself, but definitely not "half the price"
 
@Sterno My impression is far too much on the CPU, and too much on the mainboard. You're paying a lot for the last 10-20% of perfomance. You also might get W10 cheaper by buying a Windows 7 or 8 license and upgrading for free
 
@MadScientist I recently was looking for a Windows 7 license and found it almost impossible to buy one
 
@MadScientist Meanwhile @ampt is telling me to upgrade the processor :P
 
10:17 PM
@murgatroid99 i think win7 licenses were more expensive than win10 licenses too
 
If you are going to do SLI in the future, you need the 5830k
 
Actually, I never managed to do it. I just ended up buying a Win10 license
 
The license stuff might be different in Germany and the US
 
I do support your idea of getting 16 GB of ram tho
 
@badp PSU is $125, case is $75
 
10:18 PM
@MadScientist if he goes down a processor, he can't run the GFX card at x16
@Sterno a CX750 for 125????
 
@Ampt Huh? Why?
 
@MadScientist the 1150 socket processors only have 16 PCI-E lanes
 
I haven't looked at this in a while, but for one GPU you always get a 16x PCIe slot, or?
 
or $103 if I look lower, I guess
 
10:20 PM
And even 8x is not noticeable in most cases as far as I remember
 
@MadScientist Nope, it's based on the processor now
and i7s on the 1150 socket only get 16 lanes, so if he uses a PCI-E SSD, he drops down to x8
 
but why does it have to be an i7?
 
@badp at that socket size, they only make i7s and i9s
 
@ardaozkal ps. that sub is just for taking a look at retail prices. You can buy those softwares for those prices or maybe even cheaper at retail stores on sales.
 
@Sterno oh it's the modular one... why not just get the AX850 then?
 
10:21 PM
@Ampt Because if I knew what the fuck I was doing, I wouldn't be going with a pre-built
 
@Sterno Have you never put one together?
 
@Ampt Sure. 20 years ago
 
If you don't care to do it, that's fine, but it's not technically challenging at all
 
I could put one together
 
everything only fits in the slot it was made for
 
10:22 PM
Putting it together is not a problem.
 
Ow
 
I'm the clumsiest person that I know
 
Researching and deciding which damn PSU I want is what I have a problem with.
and then doing that for every single piece
 
I guess though that you're going water cooling
 
i dont know shit sbout pc hedgemaze
5
 
10:23 PM
@Sterno pc part picker does a lot of sanity checking for you
 
Hardware
 
it's not hard
 
wtf
 
It's not hard. It's time consuming.
 
@Ampt Woudn't you go for an 1151 right now? I haven't kept up entirely
 
10:23 PM
@MadScientist 1151 is the successor to 1150 yes
but Intel has always run 2 sockets at the same time
 
nakes sense
2
 
the "Consumer" version, and the "Extreme" version
 
son of a duck
2
 
you can ask people on /r/buildapc to sanity check for you but results vary
 
GnomeSlice himself is a starbait.
 
10:23 PM
the 2011 is the "extreme" one made for performance
 
Either way, statements that "you can build this for half the price" aren't really true, and only get close if it's accompanied with "and change a bunch of the parts"
So it might be valid that the pre-built is pushing me towards bad decisions on parts.
But as far as the actual costs of the parts go, it isn't terrible
 
i have canada
3
HATE
 
@Sterno ok, you can't build THAT computer for half the price, you can build an equivalent computer for half the price.
 
And I can change the parts they're putting in for me, if I actually knew what I wanted to change it to
 
ripe, the starlog is full of gnomeslice
 
10:25 PM
So it's not so much "them building it for me" that's an issue here. It's not knowing what to replace all that shit with
 
@Ampt If I looked it up right, a socket 1151 with a Z170 chipset should give you 36 PCIe lanes, which should be more than enough
 
@Sterno budget?
 
@MadScientist whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
That's like a Nascar amount of lanes.
 
@ardaozkal Clearly at least $2300 :P
 
10:25 PM
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1151 supports 36 PCI?
 
@Sterno if you want a really good PC right now just look at the bajillion builds that might be floating around that are VR-ready (and know that since they're VR-ready, they're overkill for you)
 
And I guess it's actually $2271. With shipping included in that.
 
then bump up storage ram and friends as necessary
 
@MadScientist THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING
 
10:26 PM
Hardcore VR Build ($2,000)
This is more of a “prepare for the future” build, which we put together for around $2,000. This is for those who want to know that their machine can handle not just the first wave of VR games, but games that will be coming out a year or two from now. You’ll safely achieve 90 FPS in just about any upcoming game on a Rift or Vive.

Note: This build utilizes two graphics cards linked with SLI (see our note on multi-GPU systems above). If you want to be sure you’re not buying two graphics cards until they’re absolutely useful, we recommend instead getting one GeForce
 
@Ampt ehh, maybe it's just 26.
 
@Sterno goes about $2000 if you fully upgrade it with the augmentations there: reddit.com/r/PCMasterRace/wiki/builds#wiki_the_end-all
 
dunno if any of that makes sense
 
I'm a bit confused by the data sheets
 
I know logical increments is relatively well regarded
also dual GPU setups usually aren't worth the trouble
 
10:28 PM
My last two PCs were dual GPU. Never again.
 
> GPU: 2x GeForce GTX 980 (or one GTX 980 Ti)
Geez
 
Hmm, the CPU is listed as having 16 lanes, the Z170 chipset as having 20 lanes. I'm just not sure if you can use all of them at once
 
@Sterno Same here. They're not worth it
 
the super-hardcore-enthusiast youtube channel owner of LinusTechTips has given up on them, and if they have, then they're really a lost cause.
 
Lots of games don't work right with them, and they run hotter than fuck
 
10:28 PM
@Sterno You think yours was bad, I had a dual GPU laptop!
 
@SaintWacko ugh
 
@badp Really? My SLI setup works pretty well...
That's surprising to me
I need to go home and reevaluate my life now...
 
he said that during one of the most recent WAN shows
but hey, if it works for you, go you! :)
I have SLI cables
 
A few things I know from experience is that I want a 500 GB (or even bigger) SSD because uninstalling and reinstalling shit is a pain in the ass, and yes, I'll pay an extra $250 to not have to
 
but I wouldn't go buy extra 770s
 
10:30 PM
And I'll take nVidia over Radeon
 
ALSO BECAUSE MY ONE 770 IS IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY T__T
 
@Sterno A reasonable SSD (non PCIe) is around 160 EUR/$ for 500GB
 
@Sterno game loading times aren't necessarily improved by SSDs, you already have a 4 TB drive
 
@badp I did it because at the time, the 780 TIs were the highest you could get - so I got two to future proof myself
@badp what???????
Ok now that I have to disagree with
 
@badp It's hard for me to disagree with this since I've been using SSDs for about 4 years, but at least at the time, I noticed it definitely improved game loading times
 
10:31 PM
loading times are way better on an SSD
 
@Ampt for example TF2 loading times didn't get any faster for me off HDD or SSD
 
@badp hat overflow.
 
TF2 doesn't have crazy loading times to begin with
 
it might be something funny with the Source engine though.
 
Isn't that game online?
 
10:32 PM
I remember playing Dragon Age before and after getting an SSD and it was way, way faster to load with the SSD
 
are you sure you aren't waiting for everyone ELSE to load?
 
@Ampt no, that's no MOBA.
 
And yeah, 32 GB of RAM is dumb. :P
 
people come and join the server whenever they want
@Sterno no game does when your system drive is an SSD though.
speaking of which: have people started finally sticking SSDs in their consoles yet?
they have.
Destiny is known for its terribad loading times. SSDs apparently only shortens loading times by 10%.
This other guy reports similar results
except for GTA5, that one's a nice 50% cut.
65 GB. I guess that can stay on the SSD?
 
Oculus Test:
 
10:37 PM
@ardaozkal wat
 
Well, fuck, I meant to click the "Details" button and hit "Delete" instead
 
I got demolished on the mountain today
 
@Sterno whoooooooooops
 
NO DELETE CONFIRMATION
Guess I get to look at a new build later.
 
Video to follow
 
10:38 PM
@Unionhawk would you say... you got murdered?
 
ugh OP, why did you wreck your question after i had a perfectly good answer sitting there?
 
@badp no
 
When is nVidia roughly going to unveil this year's set of GPUs
 
just click the accept button because i solved your problem
 
the 970/980s have been out for a while now
 
10:42 PM
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also worth noting if you wanna go maximum overfutureproof: Thunderbolt 3/USB C
 
Also whoever recommended Pony Island, I am loving the puzzles.
 
some people are worried that Pony Island is going to be the next Undertale craze
unfortunately they're not even close :(
 
I doubt it. But it's really good for a Ludnum Dare game!
 
@MadMAxJr holy shit is this a ludum dare game?
 
10:48 PM
Oh hey, and both of my shirts are shipping
 
@Unionhawk have they been on tumblr again
 
@badp It is! the 'one screen gameplay' challenge.
 
@MadMAxJr how long did they have?
 
@badp Zeldathon x AGDQ OTP
 
That I don't know. Aren't they generally a 24 hour marathon?
 
10:49 PM
@badp i see what you did there
 
It was an entry from December.
LD 31
 
I can't believe you'd make the game I played in just 24 hours
@GnomeSlice oh okay
 
Ah, here we are. It's a 48 hour competition.
And yes, the steam one had more polish before publishing.
 
oh god unity web player begone
 
But the general idea was roughed out during the competition.
Oh. December 2014. So they had a year to polish this.
I need to talk to Zara to see what it would take to get him back into these things. We need another Eversion.
 
@MadMAxJr you might also like
 
And now to get out of this office before the fog consumes all of downtown.
 
Hit an OS, move the mouse.
 
11:01 PM
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Wow
 
hum de dum
 
I was wondering how he got away with that without reviewing it
That's fantastic
Like, that's amazing
 
@badp Yay SOMA!
 
@badp 10/10 has lazers.
I can't really defend halo 5 too tbh, mainly because I didn't play it yet. I need an Xbox first.
 
11:10 PM
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good night bridge
 
tfw your dyslexia kicks in and you think it says raising money for the Pervert Cancer Foundation
 
 
@Dragonrage that's not dyslexia...
 
rip my onboard keyboard
 
11:20 PM
@GodEmperorDune its hereditary, my dad has it, and I exhibit dyslexic traits
 
> Exporting UniGetsDunkedOn.mp4
 
"a" key jumped out, I put it back, but I don't think that it'll stay on long :/
 
Place your bets, 84 MB video, how long will it take to upload on hotel-grade wifi
 
@Unionhawk 256000 seconds
 
11:23 PM
Hi guys!
*and nobody saw my only question in Arqade?
anyway
 
hello
 
Yes, it's the guy that was banned from posting questions on Stack Overflow due to a Q&A (I though it was a contribution) that had 7 freaking downvotes!
 
@Dragonrage Well you're probably wrong since it's actually at 90%
1 minute remaining
 
@Dragonrage i meant that you dropped the n in prevent and replaced it with an r
 
1 minute to what?
 
11:26 PM
@GodEmperorDune i also swapped the e and r at the beginning
@Unionhawk then i think i was off a bit. 256000 seconds = ~ 71 hours
 
@Dragonrage yeah i thought dsylexia was just swapping the letter placement, not replacing them
 
i underestimated hotel-grade wifi
 
Yeah, 99%
 
What do you guys think of console games that use ASCII art?
 
And processing now
Will post once processing is complete
 
11:28 PM
@GodEmperorDune kind of. its complicated. that is part of it, but also most dyslexic people cant use phonetics among other things
 
Nobody replies me :(
 
@Dragonrage good to know.
i didn't mean to trample all over dyslexia, sorry if i did that
 
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eh, i dont think anyone really understands how exactly dyslexia works, because no one really understands how the brain works
they have lots of theories and ideas, but dont know a lot of things for fact
@Gustavo6046 have you tried google?
 
11:31 PM
Yup, I tried
I still can't fix the problem
 
I ain't sure if it is a problem of the installer.
Oh and I already saw that link
And it is not the HD Edition so no Steam.
 
Huh, apparently Cartoon Network UK censored a Stephen Universe episode because it had two female characters kiss.
 
heh
 
@Unionhawk have you taken out any fences yet?
 
11:35 PM
@Unionhawk This made my day so much better, thank you
 
@Unionhawk processing what?
 
What a simple idea
and what a promising video
Gonna have to dump a bit of time into this I think
 
@twobugs this is why we can't have nice things
although i expected better from the UK
 
3 ibuprofen later and I feel fine
It did require me to call it early
 
"It might make kids uncomfortable" ... really? I don't think most kids will care
 
11:39 PM
@GraceNote Have you played Steredenn?
 
@Unionhawk do you wear a helmet?
 
Always
 
well thats good. what level run was that?
cant really tell how steep it is in the video
 
That was a blue on the way to a tree run
@TimStone I live to serve
Oh hey, and you can watch it in glorious 1080p
Yusssssss
 
thats what i normally hit, the first time i tried a black, no one told me there were mogols on one side of the run.
 
11:42 PM
Yeah, I've been skiing for 18 years
And alive for 21
 
@Unionhawk this is hilarious but i'm sad there is no sound
 
so i happened to cut to that side and find them. proceeded to fly down the entire run over mogols too scared to turn, then once i hit the end of the mogols i tried cutting to the right, but alas there was one more bump.
 
@badp I am planning to get a 4k monitor. Just probably not for a few months
 
hit it like a champ, bounced, and landed sliding on my slide
sent of a snow plume about 15 feet high, and skidded for about 30 feet
 
@GodEmperorDune Yeah well I'm too lazy to get the levels right since taking ski video is loud
 
11:44 PM
@Sterno well, then.
 
It's easier to just mute it always
 
@Unionhawk do you have a gopro on the helmet or something?
 
Mhmm
The audio is always bad
 
maybe just add some benny hill music in the background
 
Copyright is renewed, also, no
That doesn't even work in this situation
 
11:46 PM
benny hill music always works
 
No
Guile's theme might
 
>inserts another bites the dust song
 
I hate sites that put titles in all caps
Supposedly not the first judge to try this. I wonder what will happen to him.
I just assume the federal suprume court is going to intervene
 
@GodEmperorDune Correct ski music:
 
11:53 PM
Apparantly this guy thinks gods law is above the corutys.
Jesus, how si this guy still a judge?
 
I wonder if I could style it like this:
 
@Wipqozn Well, that would be true if you were a devout believer.
 
Probably not somebody who should be a judge though
 
He apparently put up a ten commandments stone in his courtroom
@GnomeSlice Sure, but separation of church and state.
@GnomeSlice yeah, exactly.
 
11:54 PM
@Unionhawk its a good song
yeah you should use that song @uni
 

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