The Bridge

I think I may be towards the end of HeroVille. There are no more blacksmith upgrades.

If that's true, then I think it's a good start but it definitely needs more content and some work on funneling money from heroes -> town better.

@Lazers Why was that migrated? GameDev doesn't take, "How do I get started?" questions.

@Frank Because it's not our job to figure out what other sites want and there's a new effort to be less stingy about migrations. If they don't want it, they'll close it themselves, and it still won't be our problem.

@StrixVaria So, just migrate crap and let them sort it out?

@StrixVaria it seems dungeons and smith caps out at 10, haven't gotten stockpile yet but i'd assume same

7:06 PM

@Frank Migrate game-dev related questions to game-dev and let them determine if it's "crap". I don't know their rules.

@StrixVaria I meant crap as in, "Whatever kinda sorta might be on-topic there, if it's not here". Not as in question quality crap.

@Frank I guess? I'm going to keep not using the word "crap" though.

Doesn't really seem to help askers all that much, if we punt it elsewhere, and it just gets closed there, too.

Is there a link to this new effort of migrating more?

No, you're going to have to take my word for it.

@Frank According to you, IIRC, our focus isn't helping askers.

Well, it just got punted back. So much for that.

@StrixVaria It's not. But if we're going to be migrating stuff, we should at least be putting some effort into making sure it's on-topic there.

7:09 PM

Nope.

@StrixVaria ...

They know their rules better than we do.

@OrigamiRobot I didn't say it.

Alright. It's just going to end up being a less than ideal situation for the asker.

A: Why was this question closed as off-topic without being migrated?

36

What's the golden rule of question migrations? Don't. Migrate. Crap. Guess what I thought that question was? Go on, guess!

@StrixVaria I know, I was merely giving my ... context, not expecting you to shed light on it.

7:11 PM

@murgatroid99 Jeff isn't here anymore, and that's old. I'm not going to migrate utter trash, but mods also can't be expected to know all the on-topic rules of all the various sites on the network.

@StrixVaria If that was downvoted, I'd accept the reasoning that he's not here anymore. But the community agrees

Q: Don't redirect unacceptable questions to other sites

34

We had a new user ask a question(10K only) that was most decidedly off-topic for us. Due to it being about Game Development, some users took it upon themselves to redirect them to GameDev.SE. So the user self-deleted his question here, and re-asked it there, word for word. Where it promptly al...

discussion migration

That seems pretty darn relevant right now.

I cannot cite where this has been said. I'm not arguing it anymore. I'm going to keep migrating stuff that is about topics that seem to fall into other sites' areas of expertise.

@StrixVaria That seems...counter intuitive to what we've decided is good practice.

Ok.

7:13 PM

If you don't want to argue, alright, but it does seem like, "I'm doing it my way, so boo hoo to you."

I can't argue.

scratch that @StrixVaria. there is still dungeon level after 10 apparently.

Because I can't back it up with evidence. But that doesn't mean there isn't any.

So it's not worth anyone's time for this to happen.

If there's mod-only stuff, alright. You can just say that.

@Frank We made them mods for a reason ya know

7:14 PM

@James Blind unquestioning faith is most definitely not one of them.

@James It's still shitty to say "I'm going things my way and the community has no say lololol"

So we could argue with them ofcourse! :D

That's not what I'm trying to do.

I'm getting conflicting instructions from the community and from SE, and I'm going to listen to SE.

Great, so yet another one of those things where the community gets overridden by SE.

metal-gear-solid-hd metal-gear-solid-series metal-gear-solid-2

@StrixVaria Well Ill back that decision as well. If the network as a whole would rather each site determine if they want a question or not on them, thats good enough for me :)

Lazers

7:16 PM

0

Q: Vamp's training

In Metal Gear Solid 2 : Sons of Liberty Iroquois Pliskin(Snake) says Vamp is "a wizard with knifes" Just curious, is this because Vamp is genetically modified or does he have some type of special training and if so what kind of training was it, i.e a type of martial art

@StrixVaria Are those instructions from SE secret?

It does seem pretty pretentious of us to go 'Nono, your question that doesnt belong here is definitely not good enough for that site either'

@James Not everything has to be on topic somewhere.

Cause we are awesome judges of the other sites as well

@murgatroid99 All I'll say is that we've been specifically instructed not to be as stingy with migrations, for the exact reasons I've already enumerated above.

7:17 PM

@murgatroid99 Yeah I agree with that but have no idea why you bring that up.

The solution is to just ask me if something should be migrated. I will tell you no problem.

We being all moderators and all sites on the network.

Mad Scientist

SE has said that we shouldn't ask the other mods about every single migration. We shouldn't migrate posts that are obviously crap, e.g. everything that falls under the close reasons other than off-topic.

@StrixVaria OK

@James It's perfectly OK to tell someone that their question is not welcome here, and also not welcome on any other site, because some questions just don't belong anywhere in this network

A valid question can be off-topic everywhere

3 mins ago, by James

@murgatroid99 Yeah I agree with that but have no idea why you bring that up.

Q: Ring Upgrades add if Two are Equipped?

7:21 PM

4 mins ago, by James

It does seem pretty pretentious of us to go 'Nono, your question that doesnt belong here is definitely not good enough for that site either'

Lazers

0

While playing as a Freerunner, I aquired a second Ring of Shadows +1. Naturally, having an open slot, I equipped it. Now, does Pixel Dungeon only read the highest of the two rings or does it add the two upgrade levels together?

android pixel-dungeon roguelikes

@murgatroid99 Not good enough for a site has nothing to do with a question that is off topic for it. Hence my confusion as to why that is even being brought into the conversation.

@James I thought that's what we were talking about in the first place. Questions that are off topic here and also off topic on other sites.

AFAIK, the migration conversation has been soley about on/off-topicness

@murgatroid99 Ah.. Nope.. This was judging the quality of the question that should go to another site

Before migrating it..

7:25 PM

21 mins ago, by Frank

@Lazers Why was that migrated? GameDev doesn't take, "How do I get started?" questions.

@OrigamiRobot Oh? Guess I read it all wrong.

This is the message that started this whole conversation

I don't know how else to interpret it

21 mins ago, by Frank

@StrixVaria So, just migrate crap and let them sort it out?

20 mins ago, by Frank

@StrixVaria I meant crap as in, "Whatever kinda sorta might be on-topic there, if it's not here". Not as in question quality crap.

I was looking at that and the following convo

So I guess I had moved on already to the next part :D

Where the question wasnt crap, it was written pretty well, so let them decide if they wanted it or not when it was definitely about game development :)

7:27 PM

This is why @StrixVaria specifically avoided using the word "crap"

[shrugs] Guess we were just focusing on different parts of the topic. No worries. I see where you are coming from now @murgatroid99. Confusion level decreased ;)

Jason Berkan

"Crap" is remarkably undescriptive when talking about questions.

ur face is remarkable

buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn

@OrigamiRobot Um I think thats a compliment actually?

ur face is actually

buuuuuuuuuurn

7:30 PM

@OrigamiRobot Why thank you :D

ur face is :D

Ugh why do gatherers go idle

@StrixVaria did you reach cap?

@Chippies I don't know because it doesn't say what the cap is.

But if I just re-assign him to gatherer he's not idle anymore.

@StrixVaria It does at the top...

7:32 PM

Oh that cap. I thought you meant the worker cap.

@StrixVaria I don't think gatherers have a cap

I had 5 gatherers and only 1 was idle.

Worker cap seems to not apply to gatherers

I have seen my gatherers idle when I have just changed them into gatherers

7:33 PM

I think I need a full-time tinker :(

Ooh someone's finally actually holding their own in the Field.

Total Battles: 3436
Wins: 3425
Losses: 11

11 SLACKERS!

> Total Battles: 7704
Wins: 7651
Losses: 53

:(

You have a much better percentage than I do.

@OrigamiRobot where did you find that?

Options.

It's about to be 12 slackers.

CMON @TIM OF THE STONE

7:37 PM

Total Battles: 1050
Wins: 1034
Losses: 16

wow, my heroes suck

Nope, he deaded

I should have named them after you, guys, so I could blame you all

I need more names

Total Battles: 0
Wins: 0
Losses: 0

Damn you all. I want to play this now.

@Frank Peer pressure!

7:39 PM

@Chippies what do you want to be?

@OrigamiRobot Chippies, The Basement Dweller

How about just a basement?

@OrigamiRobot are you calling me fat?

need moar names

Also, I have no idea what profession means

Total Battles: 8141
Wins: 8089
Losses: 52

those 52 are the 1%

.7% even

Koviko

7:43 PM

What game is this?

@Koviko herovillegame.com

Click at your own risk

My hero just lost a fight while holding a portal

@murgatroid99 Who was it?

ha, noob

@OrigamiRobot I just used all of the default names

7:45 PM

Well that explains it

got bored with heroville, decided to "hack". made a hero level 44 with 1 million hp

And another just did the same thing

@Rapitor such leet

trying to remove the "maxResources" cap but having troub;e

Well after losing weapon durability

7:46 PM

Chippies the Confident: lvl 15 - 236,549 res, 17,359 gold

@OrigamiRobot inded. i am hax0r

@Rapitor set it to Infinity

@murgatroid99 no i can't even edit it

i found it (i think), but I can't change it

Need another user to add to my army

pretty much why i don't like clicker games is I don't have the attention span for em and just eventually hack em to be broken

7:48 PM

I actually don't think any of my heroes has ever used a portal. They just hold on to it way after it should have triggered

> Portal: Will return a hero to town if their weapon breaks or they have less than 10% health, works between battles.

@Batophobia oh, that explains it. Of course that makes it nearly useless because they rarely survive a battle once their damage output drops to 1

@murgatroid99 increase fist damage

@murgatroid99 Depends on what Upgrades you have

(don't actually)

7:51 PM

Does Minimum Damage apply to fists?

No

damn... Belgium is screwed beyond believe... Our new government is starting to do things the way the nazis did them, including saing "this one guy who said that the nazis were too soft for the jews, he's not all that bad and fascistic. You should see it in the spirit of the times"...

>Nazis
>Too soft on Jews

Apparently one of the guys responsible for anti-discrimination stuff is a guy who sued the government because "discrimination is a human right".

@murgatroid99 Yup. There were people who thought the nazis were just softies and should have been harder on the jews.

We're so fucked.

@Arperum That concept is hard to make sense of. I don't know how you can be harder on a group of people than by murdering all of them

7:55 PM

@Arperum "I have the right to be a dick!"

Which...technically, yeah, you do.

heh

@Rapitor dat mace

@Frank but only in certain ways

7:56 PM

@murgatroid99 Murder them faster probably. They should've started murdering a couple years faster? keep in mind the guy who said so was killed by the french army in 1940.

@murgatroid99 By torturing them and then murdering them.

@Batophobia being an idiot he immediately traded it for the great axe once he got to town.

Which is what happened.

@Rapitor ha

@murgatroid99 I'm having trouble figuring out what exactly those ways are. Or at least, describing them.

In your own home, yeah, I think you can discriminate.

7:57 PM

@OrigamiRobot basically, the Nazis set the standard for how horrible you can be to a group of people

At work or in professional situations, though, most definitely not.

@Frank Assault and hate speech are two that come to mind

I don't have the right to be a dick by punching someone in the face.

Mad Scientist

@murgatroid99 well, IS is currently trying hard to catch up

Koviko

I'm not entirely sure what's being said, but a paraphrased quote once said to me:

> Freedom of speech is the freedom to say what you want without the government censoring you. It doesn't free you from the consequences of what you say, though.

7:59 PM

@Frank it's worse actually. "I have the right to see these other people as vermin because they are not exactly to my liking. And while doing so address them as vermin too, and since they are vermin, eradication might be good, no?" the steps from being a seriious asshat to massmurdering moron is pretty damn small here.

@MadScientist They just haven't done it at anywhere near the scale or organization that the Nazis had

@Arperum genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

Koviko

genocide watch dot org... this exists.

Also, I think cultwatch is a thing, too.

@Arperum That goes up to about stage 3. Stage 4 if a lot of people agree

Maybe 5

@Arperum I'd say he has the right to see them as vermin all he likes. But he's not allowed to express that in a manner harmful to those he's referring to.