The Bridge

3:00 PM

@OrigamiRobot I "protested" because the statement made was that I was secretly in love with her. And unless I'm @kalina (looks down Nope.), that doesn't imply self-love at all.

Tim Stone

People will be very disappointed when their Alienware Steam boxes can't even properly render future-generation dogs.

Blem

Here is some clips from the Frozen movie, censored so it is SFW!

3ventic

@5pike = the 10-year-old kids yelling in Just Cause 2?

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger You're not fooling anyone.

Well, maybe you're fooling @GnomeSlice.

Ben Brocka

@5pike Well I expected an overpriced piece of crap, but I was more expecting rare iterations on a >$1000 box. That would be slightly better than annual iterations on what I assume will be a ~$500 box. Also "unupgradable" was not what I was expecting at all. I don't even know how that's possible

5pike

3:00 PM

@3ventic Yeah, exactly

Arperum

1 min ago, by Arperum

@OrigamiRobot The robot is broken. @spugsley please go over to his place and reboot him.

Ben Brocka

Aside from making a case so horrific that it's just practically impossible to upgrade without destroying it

5pike

@BenBrocka That + Laptop parts

Arperum

@BenBrocka Wasn't that at least half of the point of steambox? "Upgradable".

Yuki

@Blem Wait... censored? What the...?

Kevin van der Velden

3:01 PM

@OrigamiRobot poor robot, so broken =[

FEichinger

@Yuki Watch and you'll know why.

Ben Brocka

@5pike Hm laptop parts/ SOC style design could do it for the most part

Yuki

@FEichinger Can't. YouTube's blocked at work.

Ben Brocka

@Yuki it's one of those "censor normal things so it sounds dirty" things

Yuki

@BenBrocka Ah.

OrigamiRobot

3:02 PM

@KevinvanderVelden I'll break you!

Yuki

> @KevinvanderVelden I'll <BLEEP> you!

5pike

@BenBrocka I hope someone at Valve has the balls to go and tell Alienware to fuck off.

But I doubt that

Because money

Ben Brocka

@5pike It was the headliner of their hardware announcement, even without specs

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot So robot, much broke, very sad

Arperum

@OrigamiRobot And now he's getting aggresive. @spugley, take @IanPugsley with you when you go in for a reboot!

@KevinvanderVelden -doge

Yuki

3:04 PM

@Arperum Two s 's in "aggressive", dear.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum I'm trying to communicate! He's clearly broken so he can't understand normal speech, maybe he understands doge

OrigamiRobot

@Arperum Pfft, I'm more afraid of @spugsley than I am of @IanPugsley.

5pike

@BenBrocka Then there is no hope, expect a few other steam machines do something different, but I highly doubt that.

FEichinger

@Yuki Broken paperbot is broken.

I bet @kalina ripped his head off again.

Ben Brocka

@5pike I think we've seen about all we'll see released this year. This whole thing is just a confused mess and no two manufacturers agree on what the point of a steam machine is

OrigamiRobot

3:06 PM

:13313817 A) That's not what that means.
B) Fine.

Lazers

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Q: I just downloaded idustrial craft 2, do I have to make a new world to let ores and rubber trees spawn?

I just downloaded industrial craft 2 and was adventuring and couldnt seem to see ANY rubber trees, just wondering if i need to make a new world or if i can somehow keep the world and make things spawn

minecraft pc

Arperum

@Yuki too late :( I was AFK for a bit.

OrigamiRobot

FINE CHAT BE THAT WAY

Yuki

A steam machine uses a steam engine. That's how things should be.

Frank

@Blem facedesk

Blem

3:07 PM

:)

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuki yes! Steam engines are awesome

Arperum

I need a mod to fix my mistakes after they have timed out. Get your promises in now!

5pike

@BenBrocka I haven't really followed the whole process, but it seems to me that valve had pretty much no guideline whatsoever.

Only - make it a small pc

Or were there some guidelines, but the manufacturers just didn't care?

Ben Brocka

@5pike There was talk of "tiers", low medium high, which would make a lot of sense, standardize the specs so you could slap "low tier steam machine approved!" on your games. That didn't happen. No standards. No subsidized "from valve" machine either, which some expected

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno I'm not saying "people don't have to behave in chat" I'm just saying that the two are not always comparable.

5pike

3:10 PM

@BenBrocka Ok, that explains a lot

Frank

So the Android version of FF6 had a gamebreaking bug during the Kefka vs. Leo fight. It crashed the game.

Ben Brocka

Basically all the high hopes people had for steam machines (subsidized like consoles, standardized for no fuss) are already out the window. Now the OS itself and the controllers are basically the remaining appeal

5pike

@BenBrocka HA

David M

Ahoy Bridge!

5pike

I wonder if they can manage to convert enough games to their OS

kalina

3:11 PM

o/

5pike

Else, it'll just die quietly, you slap windows on the steam machine and you have an overpriced "gaming" computer

Ben Brocka

@5pike They better hope Mantel & AMD become common too since that's basically the only way they'll get console levels of optimization (a few games are going mantle but it's probably a ways off)

There's no one universal bad thing about the steam machines (other than "I can make my own"), but the whole thing's just a confused mess at this point which is the problem

Yuki

@BenBrocka Ugh, the entire reason why I even consider getting consoles is for standardized specs so I don't have to worry about "Can I run X game on Y platform?"

Ben Brocka

And if you can sort out the sense of Steam Machines...you can sort out the mess of buying a PC, trust me

Yuki

Hell, that's the entire point of consoles!

kalina

3:13 PM

@5pike they're licensing the nvidia shield tech to stream games from windows as well, remember

Ben Brocka

@Yuki yeah, the "tiers" thing would have been interesting. I wouldn't have bit, but I bet a lot of people would

5pike

@BenBrocka Well, and at that point - why even bother with steam machines?

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka And it shouldn't be long before someone releases PC drivers for the controller.

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot I thought they said it'd work with windows anyway?

Controller's all I'm interested in, and I still doubt it'll replace my DS4/Mouse

badp

@BenBrocka I guess the problem is that no one wants to market a "low tier" machine

OrigamiRobot

3:15 PM

@BenBrocka Well then the controller shouldn't be included as part of the appeal of the box.

badp

and if the "high tier" machines are $6,000 people are going to get very uninterested very fast.

Ben Brocka

@badp the $500 boxes are definitely "low tier" whether they call 'em that or not. And really, those are the most attractive ones of the bunch IMO, because they reach form factor levels generally uncommon for the specs

Frank

@badp Especially since you can build a high-spec PC for ~$1K.

OrigamiRobot

Unless you meant the appeal of the box in relation to other consoles.

Ben Brocka

Though with some effort you can get a big ol graphics card in a small ATX HTPC case

badp

3:16 PM

I'm happy they didn't go with stupid labels such as "low"/"good" "medium"/"better" and "high"/"best", as those labels are pretty dumb and short-sighted anyway

Ben Brocka

@badp there's also a $6000 one (I think it basically includes multiple Titans, but still)

badp

What's best today is going to be laughable in 8 years

Ben Brocka

@badp The point would have been to say "runs on X tier steam boxes just fine!"

Like Windows Experience index but actually useful. Could have had a gradually increasing scale

RedRiderX

Oh man The Muppet Movie is so great.

badp

@BenBrocka That puts pressure on developers to actually buy each of every steam machine, doesn't it?

Yuki

3:18 PM

@BenBrocka Should probably include a year disclaimer because "low 2014" probably isn't going to be the same as "low 2018".

Ben Brocka

@badp Ideally you'd only need one of each tier, and there's a minimum requirement in every field for a tier steam machine

@Yuki I was thinking more like "tier 1 tier 2" something that scales infinitely

badp

@Yuki I'd much rather have something like "tier 0" "tier 1" "tier 2" and so on

Lazers

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Q: How to make sure directions on navball correspond to directions I see my ship flying?

When I land on celestial body without atmosphere, I can't count on drag to nullify my horizontal velocity. So I need to use translation RCS for the final 3-5 m/s I can't nullify with manoeuvres. But I often get confused. What can I do to make sure than when I press "translate left" key, my ship ...

kerbal-space-program

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Q: Forge mod loader could not connect to this server

I get the following error when I try to join my friends server. The mods and versions listed below could not be found, they are required to play on this server. - IC2 : 2.0.371 We both have industrial craft 2. How can we solve this problem?

minecraft minecraft-industrialcraft

Ben Brocka

Like experience index, after a certain point you max out at 7.9, but in theory they could raise the ceiling

badp

@BenBrocka doesn't that consistently happen with each release of Windows?

it used to be 5.9 with Vista, I think

Ben Brocka

3:20 PM

Yeah, it was 5.9, 7.9 with 7, might have been raised in Win 8, I never checked

Grace Note

Oh for a moment I thought we were talking about earthquakes.

badp

@BenBrocka yeah, but then you can have a tier 3 machine that doesn't run a tier 1 game because of AMD drivers.

3ventic

I can't even find the score in Win 8.1

badp

@3ventic Start from Win-Pause

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka My processor and RAM limit me to 7.6, sadface.

3ventic

3:23 PM

@badp nop

badp

@TimStone You mean they score 7.6? :P

Tim Stone

I should probably throw away my entire computer and get a new one to mimic the console lifecycle.

badp

@3ventic It should be a link in there on the sidebar

kalina

@3ventic it appears to be missing in Windows 8.1

Tim Stone

@badp Yeah, everything else is 7.9.

3ventic

3:23 PM

> It has now been removed in Windows 8.1, and the numebr number no longer shows up in the System Information window.

howtogeek.com/167610/…

Ben Brocka

@TimStone Yeah my ram is the only thing that isn't 7.9. Which makes me sad because I wanted to max out their silly arbitrary limit

Tim Stone

What good are numbers if you can't shove them in other people's faces?

I was considering upgrading my RAM, but I haven't found a compelling reason other than to just do it.

Ben Brocka

also I need to buy more ram since 1 stick is trapped in my old motherboard because screw removing that 212

I'll probably just buy a cheap set of 2x4GB. I want 2x8 but can't really justify the price

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