The Bridge

badp

9:00 PM

oh, so you have to CLOSE uPlay and then relaunch AC2 from Steam

and only then will it prompt for an activation key, probably thinking it busted you pirating the game

badp

9:17 PM

LOL

somebody studied their antipatterns

user20683

Some apparently Homeworld is being rereleased.

Ullallulloo

9:36 PM

@badp I can't read any of this.

badp

@Ullallulloo Fourth line!

Lazers

-1

Q: Shoot around corners

In most games similar to The Last of Us, a game mechanic is available to allow shooting around corners while in cover. This is usually implemented by just walking up to a corner, or perhaps a button press. Does The Last of Us have a similar mechanic?

the-last-of-us

badp

See? They buried English somewhere in the middle knowing that you probably wouldn't have read the thing in the first place and instead hit 'no what the hell is this I don't want any of this'

and once you do find it they still say "We're going to take our savefiles with you if you continue!"

Blem

►

>.<

some might say it is NSFW

badp

Wordarting like it's 1997 yo

Raven Dreamer

9:59 PM

I feel dirty when I spend money.

3

user20683

@RavenDreamer yeah, I'm generally in the same boat

Fluttershy

@RavenDreamer Have you spent a lot on the sale?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer Go vote for Blood Dragon in Steam Sale so I can join you in feeling dirty.

Raven Dreamer

@Fluttershy Not until 5 minutes ago.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Already done.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Woooooo.

Must save extra 2 dollars.

user20683

10:00 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I voted for that as well

LessPop_MoreFizz

@WorldEngineer As well you ought to!

Raven Dreamer

@Fluttershy And then I decided. You know what? I'ma nab Bioshock when it's half off. And all of the skyrim DLC while I'm at it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer Yeah, this is what happened to me several times this week.

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz sympathy party

LessPop_MoreFizz

and now, nearly a days wages later, I have a lot of games I won't play for a long time.

Raven Dreamer

10:02 PM

Well, I only spent half a days wages. But I spent half a days wages like 2 weeks ago when Civ V's last expac dropped.

Which brings us back to

3 mins ago, by Raven Dreamer

I feel dirty when I spend money.

user20683

I spent an hour and a half's wages on the sale thus far. $12.48

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer Either you earn more than me, or have exercised more financial restraint than me, or some combination of the two (which I suspect is the case.)

user20683

Nights Into Dreams, Torchlight II and Kairo

user20683

only the last one is actually for me

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz Also, I'm salaried, and did a pretty poor job of calculating a "day's wage".

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:03 PM

@WorldEngineer You however, do not earn more than me, but you have exercised substantially more financial restraint than me, so consider yourself good.

Fluttershy

@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't think I earn more than you, and exercised less restraint. <_< I am terrible with money.

user20683

@LessPop_MoreFizz I earn around a 3rd of what you do if my estimates are correct

user20683

maybe a 4th

Raven Dreamer

@Fluttershy But you're investing in a computer!

You also don't worry about living in NYC, I assume?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@WorldEngineer Hourly, you earn about half what I do it looks like. Maybe a bit more than half. But I also work a lot of overtime.

fbueckert

10:04 PM

I've spent roughly two hours' wages.

Raven Dreamer

I should probably go buy some groceries.

But I am le lazy.

LessPop_MoreFizz

And also have a per diem while travelling that I don't fully use padding my income, so 'wages' is not the best means of representing my income.

Raven Dreamer

Groceries or Bioshock + Skyrim. Hmmmmm.

user20683

@RavenDreamer I'm hankering for sweets but it's raining...choices...

Fluttershy

@RavenDreamer This is true. Cost of living here is reasonably low. =P

FAE

10:05 PM

I've... spent Jochem's money. <_<

Fluttershy

@RavenDreamer Bioshock. You can beat it faster than Skyrim.

user20683

@RavenDreamer Groceries, swing by Wendy's get a Frosty and then torture spugsley with pictures of it.

Raven Dreamer

@Fluttershy No, I'm deciding where to spend my money, you see.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@WorldEngineer I have already told you the solution to your choice paralysis.

Raven Dreamer

@FAE sympathy hug

Fluttershy

10:06 PM

@RavenDreamer Oh. Well.. Just buy a bunch of ramen noodles, Skyrim and Bioshock.

user20683

@LessPop_MoreFizz sensitive teeth, I very, very seldom eat Ice Cream

Raven Dreamer

I just remember I needed to buy a replacement monitor too. Gave my old one to my folks, now I have two computers and one monitor.

user20683

@RavenDreamer SSH into the other one?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer KVM

Raven Dreamer

@WorldEngineer Well the use-case in question is the computer that travels to LAN parties, so that's not going to work.

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:07 PM

Or virtual KVM via Synergy or similar.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz These can be quite handy. Jochem and I used to use one when we lived with his parents still.

Raven Dreamer

Though right now, it's actually hooked up to my Mass Effect TV, so w/e.

:D

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer TV Buddies Whut Whut

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz Note to self: It'd be cool to have a beer with Keith.

user20683

@RavenDreamer incidentally how is it that you've got so much more rep than everyone else? Do you just play more games than everyone else?

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:09 PM

@RavenDreamer I'll meet you halfway! I'll be in Virginia/Maryland for the next week or so.

Fluttershy

Raven Dreamer

@WorldEngineer When gaming first launched, I was a student with no real job to speak of, no girlfriend, so, uh... I had some time.

user20683

ah

LessPop_MoreFizz

@WorldEngineer What @RavenDreamer just said. Also, he has, for whatever reason, always been playing the 'right' games at the right time in order to maximize his ability to answer questions.

There's a certain element of timing that goes into being good at gaining rep on Arqade, where if you follow trends, you'll do very well.

user20683

@LessPop_MoreFizz where as my tastes even when my computer could run it have run toward the wrong ones

Raven Dreamer

10:11 PM

And then I got a full-time job, so less time, but by now I can basically keep my rep up with "interest" on old questions.

LessPop_MoreFizz

For instance, @RavenDreamer is the only one of our top tier users with significant league-of-legends rep.

Fluttershy

> 1,262 Answers

Raven Dreamer

4.88 answers per question! Nice!

user20683

@RavenDreamer yeah, my story on Programmers is weirder. I've managed to crack 15k despite having no professional development experience whatsoever.

Raven Dreamer

Where's the little doohicky that says in what percentile of users you are? Did they remove that?

user20683

10:14 PM

@RavenDreamer I'm in the top like .3%

user20683

I'm 47th or so on the site in terms of rep

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz Well, I'll need a little more heads up than that. Let me get back to you when I find out how many vacation days I have left this year.

LessPop_MoreFizz

FWIW, it's fun to look at the difference in rep/post between me, raven and Agent86, for example: 51.8527841 for Agent, 69.78 for Raven, and 67 for me.

Raven Dreamer

@WorldEngineer Last I knew, I was in the top .06%, but it's been a while.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer I'm sure I'll pass further South again sooner or later.

Raven Dreamer

10:16 PM

Okay, I'ma go nab some groceries then, before I forget. Ciao!

Lazers

0

Q: Which food items heal you?

In Pitman's help topic for 'items', it mentions that some food items won't just fill his belly, they will also heal him, but it doesn't say which ones. I'd like to prioritize picking up healing food items over standard ones due to my limited inventory capacity. Which food items heal you, and by...

pitman

1

Q: In minecraft I heard creepy music while mining

A couple minutes ago, I was mining in minecraft and then there was about ten seconds of creepy music. Whats going on? I'm freaking out!

minecraft

user20683

0.053%

user20683

44th out of 82,000

user20683

that's just stupid

user20683

I spend way too much time here

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:19 PM

> Update: Severe Earthquake Strikes Australia / Correction – New Zealand

GJ NEWSPAPER.

... Are we really less than 48 hours away from the return of @GnomeSlice?

It feels like just yesterday he left us unwillingly.

user20683

/readies kicks and bans

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's the REAL reason @kalina left.

...too soon?

user20683

@LessPop_MoreFizz Well we lost Kalina in the mean time.

user20683

so that should cut down some on the antics

Retrosaur

We lost another kid too

He raged over me

so he left

@LessPop_MoreFizz Wait, did @GnomeSlice Leave?

LessPop_MoreFizz

10:30 PM

@Retrosaur He is currently serving a fairly long suspension. It ends in 2 days.

user20683

@Retrosaur no, he's right there

user20683

watching us

user20683

NSA style

fbueckert

0

A: What are the Summer Getaway Badge levels on Steam?

Deleted. I don't help here anymore. Thank Retrosaur for it.

facedesk

Retrosaur

Ah, okay.

@fbueckert toplel

►

fbueckert

10:32 PM

@Retrosaur Dude, you don't come off as the better party there.

You're both being idiots.

Retrosaur

@fbueckert Welp, I was only trying to dissuade him from posting shitty "here's a link" answers

Way to antagonize me though ;_;

fbueckert

@Retrosaur There are better ways to do it. You've been around long enough to know better.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Retrosaur Y'know, normally I would be very critical of your behavior in a situation like this, but I think you may have actually done us all a service on this one. Broken clock, etc.

Retrosaur

@LessPop_MoreFizz Broken clock? Sorry, I don't understand :C

user20683

@Retrosaur even a Broken Clock is right twice a day.

Retrosaur

10:34 PM

oh, even a broken clock works twice a day

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Retrosaur Right twice a day.

Retrosaur

Oh

Alrighty, got it, thanks.

Fluttershy

Something something twice a day.

Retrosaur

I feel stupid welp

Didn't even hit my mind

badp

sigh

that's not how it works, sorry

Retrosaur

10:37 PM

@badp PFFFFF HA HA HA - Heavy

fbueckert

@badp I was just about to link that.

Silly user28015. He DOES know better.

badp

28015 surely?

Retrosaur

28015, not 28013 @fbueckert

fbueckert

Hey, I came up with that off the top of my head.

badp

at any rate I don't think he'll be deleting his account

fbueckert

10:39 PM

I'm surprised I was that accurate.

badp

@fbueckert That's a mixture of impressive and creepy

fbueckert

Also, inb4 more vandalism and/or meta raging.

Sterno

Just tried to buy a Steam card on the market. It was like playing whack-a-mole with "this card has already been sold" messages.

badp

I have enough trouble reminding if I'm 23 or 27 on chat or the site

fbueckert

@badp Eidetic memory. Details usually get remembered.

FAE

10:39 PM

> This comment is not eligible for voting or flagging

badp

@Sterno they do move very quickly

FAE

I didn't know that was a thing

badp

@FAE it's on a locked post, right?

Retrosaur

@Sterno I remember how some kid developed a script that would autobuy at lower than market value and sell at higher value

FAE

@badp Ah, yes.

FEichinger

10:41 PM

NOYB is ragequitting again?

Wouldn't user delete solve the vandalism problem, @badp? I mean, if he keeps doing that, that is.

Sterno

Oh, you can level up the badges? Valve is evil.

badp

@Sterno Up to 5 times

@FEichinger If he vandalizes stuff around, I'll suspend him, but I won't delete his account

FEichinger

@Sterno 5 times the normal one, 1 time the foil one, coming up to a total of 6 badges per game.

Sterno

When crafting the badge they actually gave me one card towards leveling up. S where my inventory had been empty, I now have 1 card wanting 9 friends

badp

@Sterno sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it sell it

FEichinger

10:45 PM

@badp Tbh, that's what I'm gonna do. Wait for the Getaway cards to become unavailable and sell them when the normal ones approach ~.30 to ~.50 in price.

Sterno

Indeed

badp

@FEichinger happy waiting!

FEichinger

@badp I give it a week or two, max.

badp

@FEichinger I think there are way too many cards around to make that possible

FEichinger

@badp They're still around .10 - while they're still dropping.

badp

10:47 PM

@FEichinger I might drop in and buy one of each later, just to humour myself

...or rather, buy 10 of Skyrim

and see what happens

FEichinger

Also: Right now, 3000 each day sell.

badp

@FEichinger Interest will sharply decrease later

There are cheaper badges out there to level up your acct with

Say, Dungeons of Dredmor

FEichinger

@badp I doubt it. As long as they're available for purchase, the collectors will come. Particularly the ones that want to pay for L5.

Sterno

Playing the card futures!

badp

six cards per badge, all of them very cheap

cheapest XP you can get

FEichinger

10:49 PM

It's hardly about the exp. It's about the e-peen for having a high-level event badge.

Retrosaur

@badp True story, I had a ex-friend who thought he was an econ expert

So he buys 200 backpack expanders, when it was on sale

Thinking "When it goes back up, I can sell for massive profit"

badp

@FEichinger mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Retrosaur

Then it drops to permanent 99cents

badp

@Retrosaur should've done that on Keys! They're apparently quite cheap on the market right now

FEichinger

@Retrosaur Thing is: The cards drop for free. There's no loss here, unless I were to buy off the market in anticipation. That would be stupid.

badp

10:52 PM

I bought two with card proceeds to accelerate my path towards a strange PDA

72885/92000

Retrosaur

@badp Cheap only because of the summer cooler crates

@FEichinger Good point.

badp

@Retrosaur Still, cheap.

Retrosaur

I get this weird feeling that Valve is going to turn Steam Trading Cards into some Magic:The Gathering hybrid

"I set my Soldier into Attack position, and I special summon Quick-Fix Medic"

badp

Honestly I thought they were turning this into some kind of "loyalty reward system" where every level up is 1% off all future purchases on full price purchases

Fluttershy

@Retrosaur Nobody talks like this in MtG.

FEichinger

10:58 PM

@Retrosaur Nah. They're in no way designed for that.

Retrosaur

@Fluttershy Sorry, i only referenced MtG because of the "background" cards

FEichinger

@badp It would've made sense.

Retrosaur

What I really meant was Yugi-oh

Fluttershy

@Retrosaur That might be closer to the speech for Yu-gi-oh. The only thing I know from that is "You've just activated my trap card." <_<

Retrosaur

^.^

badp

10:59 PM

@Fluttershy also "I must believe in the heart of the cards"

Retrosaur

Anybody have a spare Chivalry, Reus, or Football Manager card?

I'd be willing to pay metal if necessary

badp

@Retrosaur backpack.tf has a card swapping thing that accepts metal

backpack.tf/cardswap

Retrosaur

oh danke

Fluttershy

Trading Steam cards for Psychonauts cards!

badp

or at least it did

Retrosaur

11:01 PM

Dammit ;C no Psychonauts

badp

I can't see the conversion rate anymore

Unionhawk

@Retrosaur backpack.tf/cardswap?appid=3830

user20683

I have returned

user20683

@Retrosaur I have a spare Reus

Fluttershy

I have a spare KSP.

Retrosaur

11:03 PM

@WorldEngineer I don't think I have you on my friend's, could you add Retrosaur? Or, what's your Steamid?

Fluttershy

Would trade for a Psychonauts card. <_< I only need 4 for my badge.

Unionhawk

@badp Scrap is 4 credits, cards depend on the game

John

Wooo Linux Dota 2!

Fluttershy

@John I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.

badp

@John I'm sorry, I don't really do Pokémon

Retrosaur

11:05 PM

@JOHN :3

John

wat

user15026

I installed that game and never touched it.

user15026

I think it is @badp's fault I have it anyhowe

Unionhawk

As of this writing, Ubuntu 6.10 and Firefox 2.0 have left my computer a complete mess.

now it's not funny

I hope you're happy.

Blem

You can also just ignore any science assertion where 'quantum mechanics' is the most complicated phrase in it.

badp

11:06 PM

@Unionhawk "Now it's funny! Now it's not funny! Now it's funny! Now it's not funny! Now it's funny! Now it's not funny!"

John

@Unionhawk Thank you. I am quite happy.

Retrosaur

@John I haven't seen you on here in like forever

@WorldEngineer Hmm?

John

@Retrosaur I haven't been on here in like forever

badp

@John maybe you can riddle me this

user20683

@Retrosaur don't play TF2

badp

11:08 PM

I haven't played DOTA 2 in months. I've only got a twelve minutes match or so where I did terribad

user20683

Portal 2 would be of interest

Retrosaur

Done, done and done.

badp

...now I go check my DOTA 2 inventory and I've got a non tradable Gunslinger's Rifle out of nowhere

wtf?

Unionhawk

DOTA doesn't exactly seem like my cup of tea... honestly.

badp

am I now getting drops without having the game installed in compensation for the change to TF2 drops? :P

John

11:09 PM

@badp You're asking a guy who hasn't even finished the tutorial yet >.>

badp

Raven Dreamer

Guys! Guys! Great news! I saved 5 cents by using a reusable bag when grocery shopping, so I feel better about spending money now!

badp

Your gratitude. It is mine. FOREVER.

user15026

@badp ....I am pretty sure it isn't my gratitude shining in there

user15026

@RavenDreamer :D Go go super shopping Raven

badp

11:11 PM

@AshleyNunn The description cannot lie!

FAE

@RavenDreamer Woo! We have reusable canvas bags that we use.

user15026

@badp I think they got gratitude and annoyance mixed up

FEichinger

@badp So I'm not the only one, then?

Retrosaur

@RavenDreamer Spend it on Steam games welp

badp

@FEichinger "Added new set for Sniper Gunslinger for finishing tutorials."

FEichinger

11:13 PM

@badp Yeh, just figured that.

badp

except when I last played the game there were no tutorials

I remain confused

FEichinger

@badp You sure about that? One of them was available pretty early-on.

badp

@FEichinger @Fluttershy gave me the game on 11/7/12

Blem

@badp so what can you use it for?

FEichinger

Other than that, it might well just have assumed you finished the tutorial, because you played it. I dunno.

badp

11:14 PM

@Blem I guess you can, uh, equip it?

Considered that I couldn't figure out how to operate the camera in that game, I probably didn't do the tutorial :P

I think I jumped straight into PvE

FEichinger

@badp Oh come on, the camera jsut takes a while to get used to. :P

badp

@FEichinger Couldn't it just like always lock onto me

Really Smite is so much more pleasant to play than anything top-down could possibly be

FEichinger

@badp I think there's a setting for that. But you really don't want that.

badp

WASD + mouselook > top-down WASD > *

FEichinger

The camera is already very restrictive in Dota 2. Forcing focus on the player hero would be bad.

Ben Brocka

11:17 PM

Anyone want to trade a KSP, Dead Island or Tomb Raider steam sale card for Reus, Skyrim, chivlary or football banager?

Blem

but why would you play Dota2 anyway? isn't it just LoL with a more hostile community?

Ben Brocka

@Blem is that possible?

badp

@BenBrocka Now I want Football Banager

Ben Brocka

@badp He's pretty good at banaging footballs

FEichinger

@Blem I have actually experienced it less hostile than LoL.

badp

11:17 PM

@BenBrocka I've been banaging people for a while

STERNO DO YOU WANT SOME BANAGEMENT?

Powerlord

@BenBrocka No, that'd be the joke.

Sterno

@badp no. I am an amateur creep.

FAE

@badp I... did not read that properly at all

badp

@Sterno aw :(

FEichinger

@FAE You're not the only one.

badp

11:19 PM

@FAE banaging's good joob, mayt.

Ban politely. Ban efficiently. And have a plan to ban everyone you meet.

Sterno

Who bans the Banmen?

badp

@Sterno We ban each other

user15026

@FAE Me neither!

Sterno

End of steam sale = @gnomeslice returns.

Powerlord

@badp @Mana, you''re needed by @badp!

Ben Brocka

11:22 PM

Gnomeslice confirmed for HL3 protagonist

6

Sterno

All bans should be in durations measured by "until the next Steam sale"

badp

@BenBrocka He headed the Combine all along

FEichinger

@BenBrocka That would explain a lot.

Powerlord

@badp I thought the TF2 Administrator headed up the Combine.

Blem

Hottest porn scene ever! (SFW)

Powerlord

11:23 PM

That's why you hear her giving orders.

badp

@Powerlord Well Gnomeslice's being overthrown by her, see

FEichinger

badp

In Ep3 she turns from loyal minion to evil overlord of evilness

@Blem Rub some bacon on it

►

FEichinger

11:39 PM

crickets

user15026

I am distracted - trying to install Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable and an IRC client on two different machines right now

Blem

@FEichinger crying a bit, I have no bacon and it is the middle of the night so the store is closed, guess i should go to bed

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn That earns you a double-*shakes head*

user15026

@FEichinger Why? (I know it could be for various reasons so I am curious)

Lazers

0

Q: Can two players play non-simultaneously?

My fiancee and I are trying to find a game that we can play together, and neither one of us is a strategy fan. The whole sandboxy aspect of Civ seemed like it might be a nice way to get our feet wet. The one issue is we tend to have conflicting schedules. Is it possible to start a two player gam...

civilization-5

0

Q: FNVEdit merged patch, fixing it and advices/tips?

So, I use FNVEdit 3.0.30 (latest to the date) to create a merged patch for Fallout New Vegas, its idea is to auto-mix mods. 1) The problem is the groups Containers and Factions got messed; entries were missing... All other groups seems ok!? How to be sure? I just remove such groups from the merg...

fallout-new-vegas

FEichinger

11:42 PM

@AshleyNunn Well, vcredist is evil and IRC is stoopid, to put it shortly.

user15026

@FEichinger The things I do to solve problems in a poly relationship.

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn I'm not gonna ask, nope.

user15026

@FEichinger It makes things interesting

user15026

also I keep forgetting that I also have a laptop in my lap and working on the desktop, so I get supremely disappointed when the mouse doesn't just neatly flip from my desktop to my laptop

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn That's actually a great idea.

user15026

11:45 PM

@FEichinger It would be so awesome

FAE

@AshleyNunn I've done this too

FEichinger

@AshleyNunn And it's actually possible. Pointlessly complicated, but possible.

user15026

@FEichinger Wait what

FAE

@FEichinger I still use IRC every day

user15026

@FAE I am pretty much constantly mixing up my inputs right now :P

FEichinger

11:48 PM

@AshleyNunn Well, hypothetically speaking, one could log a mouse into multiple wireless USB connectors, store the current X and Y in the mouse and have a driver program on the client PCs relay the mouse actions to the system, thereby pre-checking whether or not the mouse hits a boundary - and thus may or may not switch focus from one PC to another.

That would of course require dedicated hardware and software and would be pointlessly complicated.

But it's technically possible.

user15026

@FEichinger but -doable-

user15026

Which is the fascinating bit

FEichinger

I love it when my mind goes on crazy adventures like that.

@FAE IRC is still stoopid. But that's a grudge on my end.

user15026

@FEichinger Right now I am very happy for its existence, even if figuring it out is hard

FAE

@FEichinger I use irssi for IRC, it's my favorite client for it.

user15026

11:51 PM

@FAE I am basically just following my SO's instructions XD

user15026

because I have no idea what I am doing

FAE

@AshleyNunn irssi's a linux client so that'd probably be a step further than you wanna go atm for something temporary

FEichinger

@FAE My problem is more with the protocol itself than the programs surrounding it, but that's just me, as I said.

user15026

yeah, I am just working on getting the win7 machines together right now, and eventually, if this remains a thing we use, then mught pop something on the linux one as well

Raven Dreamer

@FAE I started playing ranked LoL. (I'd say "again", but that's not quite the meaning I want).

I'm something like 2-10 and have fallen two divisions :(

FAE

11:55 PM

@FEichinger Ah gotcha.

Raven Dreamer

When is gamescom?

Sometime in August?

FAE

@RavenDreamer yes

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