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12:00 AM

Does anyone know of an online translator that can convert something (like this: \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220%\0\0004\0\0\0) to ASCII?

Origami Robot

I can

What do you want converted?

RPi Awesomeness

@OrigamiRobot Well, that phrase I gave for one...

Origami Robot

@RPiAwesomeness ASCII

Next?

RPi Awesomeness

hohoho

I'm working on a piece of software and I need to be able to understand the output from a command...

Origami Robot

@RPiAwesomeness ASCII

Next?

RPi Awesomeness

12:08 AM

/okay. /Really.

/Hah! /Now /you /can't /keep /answering /ascii /because /I'm /using /an /escape /character

/Sorry. /Your /little /robotic /attempt /at /a /joke /has /been /foiled /:D

Origami Robot

No, I just got bored with the joke. It ran its course.

RPi Awesomeness

:)

Origami Robot

It's... not a pun

badp

@RPiAwesomeness That's where you're doing it wrong. You should've replied, "ASCII."

RPi Awesomeness

But seriously, do you know of any?

@badp I should've

dangit

Origami Robot

12:11 AM

I don't even know what that is.

badp

If you don't turn puns into existential dread, you're letting the terrorists win

RPi Awesomeness

@OrigamiRobot It's some sort of sequence that is output from the strace program.

Origami Robot

49 secs ago, by Origami Robot

I don't even know what that is.

badp

@RPiAwesomeness ...that's a file that's being read, right? Look at the file descriptor and see when that one was opened.

RPi Awesomeness

uuuuh...wut

@badp yes

badp

12:13 AM

Then you might be able to read it yourself directly instead of parsing strace.

RPi Awesomeness

This is the site that came up when I entered \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220%\0\0004\0\0\0 into Firefox's awesome bar

@badp That's what I'm planning on doing. I'm just curious :)

badp

ssize_t read(int fd, void *buf, size_t count);

where fd is the return value of int open(const char *pathname, int flags)

RPi Awesomeness

That's what it is?

badp

fd stands for "file descriptor"

StrixVaria

@RPiAwesomeness I haven't seen / used as an escape character before. Usually it's \.

RPi Awesomeness

12:16 AM

@StrixVaria You're right...wonder how I managed to screw that up

badp

if you have the output of strace in less and the fd is 5 you might be able to jump directly to the point of interest with a command like ?^open\(.*5$

or whatever regexp flavour it is that less uses.

RPi Awesomeness

lol, the only things that come up when I google \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220%\0\0004\0\0\0 is a bunch of error reports

In other news, I can't stream music when my dad is home :P

Origami Robot

@RPiAwesomeness confirmed as @GnomeSlice

RPi Awesomeness

O.O

how did they figure out?

Mana

where is that guy anyways

12:21 AM

Oh boy.

@StrixVaria Hats - serious business

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria Great, now I need to watch this movie.

What a jerk

RPi Awesomeness

lol, the pyro

Lazers

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When I try to install java 8 update 11 on my 10.9.5 Macbook Air, it fails and gives me the message "The Installer Encountered an Error that caused the installation to fail." It should also be noted that I deleted every single folder in the java versions folder (/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM....

Wipqozn

12:38 AM

@Unionhawk How can you hate kittens?!?!?!?!

KITTENS ARE TH EBEST!

@OrigamiRobot I know! @StrixVaria is the best.

Unionhawk

@Wipqozn Kittens

AND HAT - ED

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk I know what you meant, but I prefer to believe you meant RL kittens.

Unionhawk

:(

> Experiencing interruptions?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana What guy

Unionhawk

YES I AM YOUTUBE

@LessPop_MoreFizz That guy.

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:48 AM

@Unionhawk THATGUY.

StrixVaria

Huh. If you mod-edit a message you don't own, then the reply arrow on that message goes away.

You can still reply from the pop menu thing.

Unionhawk

@StrixVaria Wait, it does?

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk YOU WILL NEVER KNOW

Unionhawk

:(

probably accurate

Origami Robot

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS GUYS

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:50 AM

ONLY @MANA'S FROWNS ARE TO BE PINNED/STARRED.

StrixVaria

AT LEAST ONE ROOM OWNER/MOD IS LITERALLY HITLER

Unionhawk

I'M SORRY IT'S ALL MY FAULT

DON'T TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S STARS IN YOUR JUDGEMENT ON MY COOL DUDE STATUS PLEASE :?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk Other peoples stars are the only valid means of measuring Cool Dude Status™.

Origami Robot

He has a point.

Unionhawk

Hmm

StrixVaria

1:00 AM

@OrigamiRobot Help me test a thing. Post a message, then I'm going to edit it, then you edit it again after I do.

Origami Robot

This is the re-edited message.

StrixVaria

Thanks!

LessPop_MoreFizz

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Let's do one more test. Make a message then I'll edit it but don't re-edit it yourself.

Unionhawk

I'm confused.

Origami Robot

1:01 AM

@StrixVaria Interesting fact: When I went to re-edit, my original message was in the box.

LessPop_MoreFizz

24 secs ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

Unionhawk

come on internet

Origami Robot

Now @StrixVaria can edit this one. [TEST IN PROGRESS]

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot Do you see a reply arrow on that message?

Like you can reply to yourself?

Unionhawk

oh, the toast cat gif

Origami Robot

1:02 AM

No

StrixVaria

Interesting...

No u.

Thanks.

Unionhawk

I still have no clue what is happening here.

ASDF INTERNET CONNECT DAMN YOU

thanks

I appreciate it

Sep 28 at 0:39, by GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz Thank you for your constructive response.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk I haven't responded?

Lazers

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dark-souls-2

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So far almost everything has gone wrong with one particular nation. Is there any hope? I trade and have religious influence with all of their cities. By almost everything I mean: I built wonders that they coveted I asked them not to spy on me (after catching them numerous times) They covet lan...

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Unionhawk

SHHSHH

Origami Robot

1:07 AM

Man, you were so close to Cool Dude status.

Unionhawk

I'm done with this nonsense. No.

StrixVaria

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Q: Mod-editing another user's post removes the reply arrow from that post

If you edit another user's message in chat, it removes the reply arrow from that message, so you can no longer reply to it (although you can with the drop down from the left side, but who wants to click twice?). If that user then re-edits his message, the reply arrow comes back. Interestingly, i...

bug chat

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria Oh wait the science is over? I thought you needed me to edit more things.

WHOOPS.

Origami Robot

I think you need to edit more things.

Especially @Unionhawk's things.

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz You can keep editing if you want. There has been a distinct lack of mod abuse recently.

Unionhawk

1:09 AM

you were going to wait 2 minutes and make an edit weren't you.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk There is a fundamental tension in mod abuse between wanting to grasp the immediacy and attention of newlines, while wanting to wait out the timer to avoid reversal. It's part of the art that separates truly great mods from mere pretenders.

Which is to say: Room is too active, so I probably wouldn't have done that unless something was starred a lot.

Unionhawk

@LESSPOP WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME

2

Fine, fair, I buy that from you.

Origami Robot

NO

I ALMOST GOT TRICKED

LessPop_MoreFizz

Star button also breaks. Flag Button too. Basically, the whole control element over on the right hand side breaks. You can still do all of these things from the pop-up frame that comes from clicking on the left hand side of the message. — LessPop_MoreFizz 1 min ago

StrixVaria

@LessPop_MoreFizz I DIDN'T SCIENCE ENOUGH SCIENCE

Unionhawk

1:14 AM

That's fundamentally not true, and fits in with me being perpetually incorrect.

You totally would.

StrixVaria

I am a failure. But not as much as @Unionhawk.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk See, I edited that message in the name of science. Effective science.

Unionhawk

GODDAMMIT WHAT IS THIS MAKE @UNI A TEST SUBJECT DAY?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Unionhawk Yes. That's the alternate name for all days that end in 'Y'.

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh. Okay then. Carry on then. (I'd have appreciated 24 hours notice though so I could come prepared)

Oh. Well then.

That's all the days.

Connection issues ahoy!

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:18 AM

@Unionhawk Would you prefer it only occur in months with fewer than five syllables?

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz THAT'S ALL THE MONTHS

All Days Ending in Y == All months with <5 syllables

YOU ALMOST GOT ME THERE

...

Origami Robot

@Unionhawk It's only one day in the Erisian week.

> The Erisian week consists of five days: Sweetmorn, Boomtime, Pungenday, Prickle-Prickle, and Setting Orange. The days of the week are named after the five basic Discordian elements: Sweet, Boom, Pungent, Prickle, and Orange.

Mana

@LessPop_MoreFizz y'know.

that guy.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana oh him.

Mana

Gnomeslice.

StrixVaria

1:28 AM

@GnomeSlice has like jobs now.

Mana

a jobs?

crazy

StrixVaria

He also doesn't live with his parents anymore I think.

Mana

hopefully I'll have one of those things soon, too.

StrixVaria

@Mana I saw your brother at work. He gave a presentation. It was awkward.

Mana

haha

StrixVaria

1:30 AM

It was weird that I knew he was your brother.

Mana

like he was awkward?

Oh, I see

StrixVaria

Yeah he was pretty awkward on stage. Really nervous.

Mana

Ah, damn.

That's too bad.

StrixVaria

I don't remember what he was talking about, but I do remember it was pretty neat.

So there is that.

It was probably confidential anyway.

Mana

I have a Google interview on Tuesday.

StrixVaria

1:31 AM

Good luck!

Origami Robot

We have confidential meetings all the time and I never remember the confidential parts anyway.

Mana

thanks!

StrixVaria

I really enjoyed my Google interview. It was pretty fun.

@Mana What office are you interviewing at?

Mana

like, where's the interview taking place you mean?

StrixVaria

Yeah.

Mana

1:32 AM

I'm doing it over the phone

StrixVaria

Oh, ok, it's still a phone interview.

Mana

yeah.

StrixVaria

Even so, good luck!

That is the first step.

Mana

I'm worried about getting thrown off by something and not being able to find my footing

it seems like my main problem with interview questions so far

Origami Robot

@Mana You should lie in your bed.

StrixVaria

1:34 AM

The main thing is to give some kind of answer and show your thought process. Even if you don't come up with the optimal answer or make a few small mistakes, the other things are more important.

Origami Robot

That's the great part about phone interviews.

RedRiderX

displaying emojis on desktop is going to be the end of me

StrixVaria

@Mana One trick is to talk about a naive approach while you're thinking about a better approach.

Mana

yeah. I tend to do that.

The problems happen when I go down a wrong path while looking for a better approach

I tend to get too stuck in one way of thinking about a problem, and getting unstuck is difficult.

StrixVaria

I completely misunderstood one of my interview questions and spent 10 minutes talking about a problem that didn't exist during my phone interview.

Until the interviewer was just like "I'm completely lost. Can I just tell you the question again?"

Mana

1:36 AM

yeah, I need to be really careful about watching my assumptions/confusions.

StrixVaria

Anyway no amount of me talking about it is going to make you any less nervous, and I'm sure you're preparing and stuff. Just try to relax and do your best :)

Mana

alright, thanks dude :)

actually, something I'm curious about

my stats background is really bad

like barely able to reason about anything bad

StrixVaria

Statistics don't make any sense anyway.

Mana

do you think that has the potential to sink me? it sounds like something Google places emphasis on

StrixVaria

You should be able to determine the runtime complexity of algorithms you come up with, but that's not really 'stats'.

Mana

1:39 AM

ah, yeah

StrixVaria

I didn't get any stats questions on my interview, but I think that's going to depend on your interviewer.

Mana

yeah.

StrixVaria

My statistics knowledge is so bad, though.

There are some people who probably do that kind of analysis but they're really looking for your general problem-solving and coding ability on the interview. If you're not good at stats but you're still smart they'll just put you on a team that doesn't need stats knowledge.

GnomeSlice

@Mana Hey.

RedRiderX

EMOJIONE IS CONFLICTING WITH PRISM NOOOOOOoooooooo

Mana

1:41 AM

hmm. Just wondering how far an answer like "Stats really isn't my comfort zone. I'm currently taking a machine learning course to try and develop intuition for reasoning about stats questions through a different frame besides 'here are some stats equations, memorize them' " could take me if I got that kind of interviewer.

except more or less clumsy than that

@GnomeSlice hey dude.

GnomeSlice

You didn't know I was working now?

I thought I told you

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Mana I am going back to your country in a week or so.

But not to the cool part.

StrixVaria

@Mana It's really a lot more about problem solving than it is a test of knowledge.

Mana

@GnomeSlice It was kind of hazy to me. I remembered you were mentioning you were moving out, and then you were mentioning that you were with your parents.

StrixVaria

That's all I can really say, not knowing what questions you're going to get.

Mana

1:43 AM

Yeah, makes sense. Thanks for your help dude!

GnomeSlice

@Mana I go home on the weekends if I can.

Mana

Sorry I keep grasping at straws here. I guess I'm more nervous than I realized.

@GnomeSlice ah nice.

GnomeSlice

You'll be fine, you know your shit

StrixVaria

It happens to everyone before an interview.

Shit's life-changing.

Unionhawk

I'm probably fucked as far as summer internships go personally.

Calling it now.

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:44 AM

My last job interview was hilarious.

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk It's still quite a ways until summer.

Unionhawk

22 secs ago, by Unionhawk

Calling it now.

LessPop_MoreFizz

My boss-to-be basically within 30 seconds launched into telling me about the job rather than asking me questions about it. It was like she went into it knowing she was going to hire me.

Origami Robot

I never had an internship anywhere.

LessPop_MoreFizz

(Several years later, I'm sure she's pretty glad she did, but it struck me at the time as a very bad way to hire a person.)

StrixVaria

1:46 AM

As an interviewer at my last company, the number of times the recruiter told me that a person was amazing and a sure hire and then wound up being unbelievably horrible was unnerving.

It's always worth double-checking.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@StrixVaria Yeah, I was amazed and baffled by the whole process.

Unionhawk

Hmm... I'm not sure if my loan went through late and now the University owes me $7,000, or if something fucked up because I was past due on stuff

LessPop_MoreFizz

(It's mainly because they were under the gun with a hard deadline and needed somebody NOW NOW NOW)

Unionhawk

I think... it's good.

Mana

@StrixVaria this always puzzles me. Is it just nerves on the interviewee's part?

Unionhawk

1:47 AM

Yeah, that's good. Phew.

StrixVaria

@Mana Part of the job of a good interviewer is to help relax the candidate so you get the best out of them.

Unionhawk

So the university owes me/people $7,000. I guess somehow my loan is too big.

Origami Robot

@LessPop_MoreFizz That's kinda how I got my first job.

StrixVaria

That phenomenon is the recruiter being overzealous and trying to get the hire to boost their job stats.

Mana

@StrixVaria ah, I see.

Origami Robot

1:49 AM

I had to be moved out by Friday. Had a phone interview on Monday, actual interview on Wednesday. I left the interview and signed a lease at the first apartment complex that had space.

It was a very stressful week.

Luckily they just needed someone who knew how to use a computer.

Ktash

@StrixVaria Not always. I know some really smart people who have tanked because of nerves. But yeah, that does happen

Origami Robot

I was told later the entire process was more of a formality for that position.

StrixVaria

@Ktash :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Ktash Could be argued that somebody who cracks under pressure is not a slam dunk candidate.

Mana

I had a kinda weird Microsoft interview. It probably puzzled the interviewer. I was prepping for algorithms-related questions, and then the question he wound up asking me was to write unit tests for a particular situation

Ktash

1:52 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Heh, if they will always be coding and coming up with solutions to problems under the extreme pressure most people feel during interviews, then it probably isn't a good position ;)

Interviews are particularly stressful because you are going there to be judged by people you've probably never had any interactions with before

Mana

and it completely threw me off. I wrote a function that took someone else's function and an input, ran the function on the input and verified the result based on what it should have been by computing the result myself. But...then he said "how would you verify it without allocating that extra space for computing the result?"

Ktash

@Mana My worst interview ever was with Microsoft. Interviews since have been a bit easier because I know at least it won't be as bad as that

StrixVaria

@Mana You mean you manually computed the result and just hard-coded it? Because that's the right way to write unit tests.

Mana

No, I didn't do that. I should have done that. Instead I just basically wrote my own implementation of the function to test their implementation of the function.

Because I was so thrown off.

StrixVaria

My interview experience with Microsoft was dumb. They came to my college for like quick 30-minute sessions to see who was worth doing a full interview for. I was contacted shortly thereafter and they wanted to fly me to Seattle for a full interview. I said "Great, sign me up!" Then I never heard from them again.

Mana

1:57 AM

Since it was a unit test, I could have tested the function instead with inputs that had nice properties that allowed me to verify the result efficiently. That was the solution he was trying to guide me towards, and even when he basically told me it, I was in such a different mentality("I need to write an algorithm for this") that it still didn't really click.

Ktash

@Mana have you done any QE?

Mana

and since it was one of those 30-minute things, there wasn't really a way to move on besides just telling him about some projects I had worked on.

QE?

Ktash

QA/SDET/QE/Whatever else people want to call it

Software testing

Mana

Oh

Yeah, I've done testing before, usually for functional programming projects.

Ktash

Dedicated testing, or as in testing what you've coded or something?

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