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@KevinvanderVelden if that was true people would never go watch a movie with other people, which is almost the contrary of what happens in practice

8:09 PM

@Sterno You saw that movie in theaters? I'm sorry.

@Sterno and that is the time you are happy you have the theaters movie on your cell and can call/text them saying someone won't stop talking during the movie :)

@badp I might be interested in what my friend has to say, but I don't care what the jacktard two rows over has to say.

I'm happy that there are places that cater to the more focused kind of movie watcher, just know I'm not one of them.

@KevinvanderVelden I can't tell if this is the same thing or not.

Movie going is a pretty weird experience and that's part of why I don't go to them anymore

8:10 PM

I used to feel really awkward when I started going to the theater by myself.

@badp well, talking quietly for a few sentences is different, which one do you do?

Bundlestars presents the Cities in Motion Bundle.

@KevinvanderVelden The... latter? Although I can't guarantee on loudness, all I know is I was never called out on it

AGDQ is doing Yoshi's Island right now (with trihexx of course) gamesdonequick.com

8:11 PM

...either because of quietness, or of politeness of the guys two rows behind

@badp the not-an-asshole one =p? A remark during the movie is fine, just don't start a discussion (or keep it really quiet)

The reason you go to the theater with a friend isn't social. It isn't so you can chat it up during the movie. It's so that you have someone watching out for you to make sure no one behind you is going to murder you with a knife.

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Ouch...

Since the arrival of big screen TVs and BluRays, I have seen no need to ever set foot in a movie theatre.

No one in my basement is going to murder me with a knife.

@JasonBerkan That's what everybody thinks.

8:14 PM

@ElfSlice Is this game any good?

Trent Hawkins

@Sterno That said, it really depends on the movie... there are some that are just asking for a live riffing.

@MechanicalLoon I've never played it, so I can't say. It's pretty popular though. Some of my other friends seem pretty excited about the bundle too, so probably?

@Sterno And to pay $5 for an Icee

@ElfSlice Complaining is my favourite past time. Also, you complain all the time in here too.

I like how the advertising point is the "total number of Steam keys" that you get.

8:15 PM

@MechanicalLoon It's basically a niche within a niche.

@Wipqozn Which niche, though?

but it's supposed to be good.

@MechanicalLoon You manage traffic.

IT's a traffic simulator basically.

@Wipqozn That actually sounds kind of interesting.

You build bus routes, trains, et cetear.

@ElfSlice I played Cities In Motion 2 for a little bit, then OpenTTD merged in Cargodist and now I'm less interested. Graphics are prettier, UI is substantially worse though, and passengers only.

8:16 PM

Yeah, I think I'll pick the bundle up.

@Sterno They're telling you upfront. "Be prepared to get sick of entering all these steam keys"

3ventic

Cities in Motion 2 was on sale for 5€ on the last Steam sale

@Wipqozn THIS IS THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE

@Macha Yeah, I've heard the UI is pretty poor.

@ElfSlice Never mind.

@Wipqozn Okay.

8:17 PM

Maybe I should just check out OpenTTD instead.

Oh, it's on some site I've never heard of.

I thought it was on humble bundle.

The one thing it does better than OpenTTD (and Simutrans does the same thing as Cities in Motion 2) is that the unit you manage is a line and then you just stick buses/whatever on that line. Which means it's easy enough to add a bus on that line if you need more

I'm not making an account there. That's a lot of work.

Whereas with OpenTTD, you need to make a new bus/train/whatever and copy the route to the new bus, which is a little more awkward and makes finding all the buses on the line a little more awkward if the stations are shared with other lines.

@MechanicalLoon OpenTTD is also free.

8:19 PM

(OpenTTD is also more train based, if you don't have cargodist on, buses can be a bit silly)

@Wipqozn Exactly.

@Macha openTTD is awesome and you should play it

@Macha plains are also silly and no fun. Trains is where it's at

If you get the 1.4 beta, it includes cargodist (used to be a mod) which I highly recommend you enable

Basically it means that stuff has a fixed destination to be delivered to

Instead of the default thing of stuff goes wherever you take it

Also, I can probably get CiM cheaper on a steam sale. I don't care about all the DLC. I know if I buy it I'll never wind up playing the DLC.

@Sterno Some people won't buy stuff that isn't on Steam.

Also some people buy game bundles just to sell them later individually, or trade them (which is dumb).

8:22 PM

@ElfSlice Right. But they're calling out the exact number of keys you get like the fact that it's 14 steam keys makes it better than just 12 steam keys

Part of my most recent single player OpenTTD game

@Sterno If you're buying it to use in trades, that gives you 2 more things to use. I guess.

@Macha fine, fine! I'll play it again

A lot of trade sites refuse bundles though

@ElfSlice I buy my games the way God intended... at full price and to sit in my Steam library without ever being played.

8:24 PM

21 hours left on the Indie Capsule Bundle

Really great selection, if you don't have any of them.

On par with some of the better humble bundles in my opinion.

YOU JUST LINKED THAT AND WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT

@ElfSlice This looks surprisingly similar to the other bundle.

@Sterno wrong image

whew

CRISIS AVERTED

Jeez man, relax.

Q: In Deus Ex:HR DC, can I end the suffering of the Hyron test subject and keep the pacifist achievement?

8:25 PM

NO YOU RELAX I AM PERFECTLY CALM!!!111

Lazers

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I'm currently playing the section that was originally The Missing Link DLC in the Directors' Cut of Deus Ex:HR. When you descend to the ocean floor to Dr Kavanagh's lab, there is a Hyron test subject begging to be allowed to die. Can I administer the dose and keep the Pacifist achievement?

deus-ex-human-revolution

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Q: Playing Pes11 online

I have a patched Pes 2011 version for pc , and i wonder if i can play it online Does some trick exists to do this? Or I have to buy the game and get a konami account? Thanks

pc mcpatcher pes-2011

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Q: Problem in XCom Enemy Unknown when first item is Attack european alien base

I encountered the following problem in XCom Enemy Unknown on PS3. In the Mission control screen, I have two options during gameplay: the first one is attack European alien base, the second is "scan for activity". Occasionally, when I scan for activity, a UFO landing site is reported, with now opt...

ps3 xcom-enemy-unknown

@Macha Depends, and a lot of people just do it through reddit. also, if you get individual steam keys, there's no way to tell it was a bundle

@ElfSlice Stop pushing @sternold's limits he's old and liable to break any second.

Thanks @Lazers

@ElfSlice /r/SteamGameSwap bans bundle keys if they're PWYW

8:26 PM

I wonder if Xenonauts is done yet.

Only allows trading BTA keys

And it shows up when you activate it as Humble Bundle <Game X>

@Macha If you got it from a humble bundle

I assume other bundles are marked similarly.

Not generally.

user15026

@Lazers ....if you haven't actually bought the game....that means you pirated it, no?

8:27 PM

Humble has that whole steam integration thing going on

@AshleyNunn Maybe it's a demo?

user15026

@ElfSlice I highly doubt that

Just offering a suggestion.

HI AGAIN

with ramen

yum

user15026

@spugsley I should buy more ramen, I don't have any, and it is amazing

In the wake of major security breach, snapchat hires ~~security expert~~ lobbyist

8:29 PM

@ElfSlice This looks familiar too.

@AshleyNunn yes and easy to make

@Wipqozn I'm pretty sure I've posted it before. It's a really great bundle of games.

Less than a day left on it.

user15026

@BenBrocka because that will help. so much.

Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Blood of the Werewold, Plain Sight, Snuggle Truck

@AshleyNunn I do this thing where I make only half the noodles and use the entire spice packet and it is EXTRA GOOD

8:30 PM

Awww, man. I'm reading the transcript and I totally missed a gun control argument.

user15026

@spugsley ooooh intriguing

@spugsley I make two packs at a time.

@ElfSlice patched usually means no-cd-cracked

@OrigamiRobot many noodles

@ElfSlice You are correct.

8:31 PM

@AshleyNunn But she also prefers chicken flavor IIRC.

@BenBrocka I'm trying to figure out why they decided to hire a lobbyist.

Beef is best.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot ......

@Wipqozn Like I said. It's a really good collection of games.

user15026

I have actually become a ramen snob

8:31 PM

@Yuki don't want an investigation I assume

and people usually ignore it when I post stuff so I posted it a bunch of times

user15026

I can only eat the Asian grocery kinds

user15026

@ElfSlice more noise!=higher chance of people listening

@AshleyNunn I don't think I've ever had that :(

Trent Hawkins

@ElfSlice I... don't think this encourages us to ignore it any less.

8:32 PM

@spugsley what kind of ramen?

user15026

@spugsley aaaaaaaaaa you should because your mind will explode with delicious

Now I'm back on the "What should I have to eat" train.

@Jin chicken

@spugsley i want to make ramen now

Jeah >100.000$ for AGDQ

8:33 PM

@AshleyNunn Like what brands specifically?

@AshleyNunn I wouldn't even know where to go to get that.

@Jin do itttt. It's cold here and I'm having a stay inside and clean in sweatpants day. So ramen seemed fitting

@spugsley i make good home made ramen

@Jin mmmm send me some :D

user15026

@OrigamiRobot an Asian grocery store! (seriously, here tehy are usually called "blahblah asian grocery")

8:33 PM

Shin Ramyun is an okay brand, but they're almost exclusively spicy ramen.

@AshleyNunn It's not 'noise'.

@AshleyNunn Yes, but I don't know where any of those are.

@ElfSlice 't is for people that ignore it

And I'd be scared to go in.

@OrigamiRobot Uh, there's nothing to be scared of. You don't need to be able to speak any Asian languages to shop at these places.

So long as you can stand gratuitous amount of Engrish and badly-accented English, you'll be fine.

8:36 PM

@Yuki I'm scared of going into big stores I've never been in before looking for things I'm not sure where to find.

Oh, also it's best if your sense of smell isn't too sensitive. Or your stomach.

@spugsley here you go

Some of the foods that Asian markets have are... eye-opening, to say the least.

@Jin omg that looks so freaking good

@spugsley that's 3 links btw

8:38 PM

@Jin Do you just add extra stuff to packaged ramen or do you make it from scratch?

user15026

@Yuki Yeah, they're good if you like spicy, Indomie also makes really awesome ones (their Mi Goreng is my current favourite), MaMa makes decent non-spicy options, the So Ricey brand is also yummy (their pho ones are great)

Judging from the noodles, I'm assuming you at least use pre-packaged ramen noodles.

@Yuki i use packaged ramen for the noodles only.

@AshleyNunn I just want beef flavored ramen.

user15026

But there are so many other options, with better noodles

Frank

8:39 PM

More pictures of modelling

that's the best one, but my store doesn't carry it anymore

@Jin Yeah, I thought it was at least that since that particular swirly look is hard to achieve outside of pre-cooked dried ramen noodles.

@Frank I don't think the gold bit is all that steampunky to be honest =p

@Jin wait...is there bacon in there? O_o

@spugsley You can add all sorts of stuff to your ramen. I always put a poached egg in, at minimum.

8:41 PM

@spugsley what kind of ramen would it be if it didn't have bacon?

And it's really easy to poach eggs with your ramen.

@KevinvanderVelden Makes it look pretty regal though.

@Jin fakeramen, obviously

@Jin omg O_o I never considered this

bacon was used as a flavoring agent

user15026

8:42 PM

@Yuki Adding stuff to ramen is super fun

@AshleyNunn And really healthy if you add veggies and whatnot!

i typically put frozen seafood pack in it, bacon, star anise, sliced white onion, green onion and whatever else

I put grilled shrimp in my fake ramen one time. It was so good.

Although I'd recommend not using the flavor packet if you're going for healthy ramen.

i used to make steak ramen, but it's too much work

8:43 PM

At least, not the whole thing.

@Yuki i still use it, because i'm unhealthy.

plus i love the spiciness in korean ramen.

@Jin I do, but not the whole thing. You can get the same flavor with even just half the packet.

Plus, it means you can buy packaged noodles and make moar ramen with the leftover packets!

We have a drawer next to the stove that's just full of ramen flavor packets.

FINE I'LL GET RAMEN FOR SUPPER

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden I dunno; I like how it looks.

@Frank I'm not saying I don't like how it looks, I'm saying I don't think it looks steampunk

8:45 PM

@OrigamiRobot STEAK

While steampunk is awesome it is not the only awesome thing in the world

@Sterno I WOULD GET STEAK IF I HAD A WAY TO COOK IT YOU JERK

@OrigamiRobot OVEN, GRILL, STOVE

Do you really have none of those?

@Yuki I also use my secret sauce. it's the sauce i use in everything

@Sterno I don't know how to make oven/stove steak

8:47 PM

Yeah you can make steak in a frying pan

That just seems wrong.

@OrigamiRobot get a George Foreman grill. it's awesome at making bacon too

@OrigamiRobot The internet is full of instructions on this.

@Sterno Too much work.

But basically, get your stove hot, sear the steak on both sides, then toss it in the oven for a few minutes. Get it to about 135 degrees and then eat it for the win.

8:48 PM

@Sterno i used to use toaster oven, a lot faster

@OrigamiRobot steak from a frying pan is no problem (assuming you eat them at medium)

Look up cooking directions on the internet is terrible.

Bonus points if you let your steak hit room temperature before trying to grill it, and let it sit for 5-10 minutes after cooking before eating it

I tried looking up how to cook bacon and all I got was "Fry it till it's done"

I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO LOOK UP

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Q: Cooking Buffet-style Bacon

When I was a kid, every month we would go out to a high-end restaurant or country club buffet for Sunday brunch. At these buffets, I would be confronted with hotel pans with fancy chrome lids resting in their stands above Sterno stoves. In one of these pans would be one of my favorite things: b...

bacon

Oven bacon > stove bacon

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8:49 PM

@OrigamiRobot Cooking bacon in 2 steps: (1) Put it in your mouth. (2) Chew.

@Sterno What do you do about the grease?

> (depending on temperature, thickness of bacon, and desired level of crispiness).

UNHELPFUL

user15026

@BenBrocka use one of those broiler pan things

user15026

thats what I do

@BenBrocka I use paper towels and put mine in the microwave since I don't eat buffet-levels of bacon.

8:50 PM

@BenBrocka Pan lined with tin foil. Throw a few paper towels on it after it comes out of the oven just to help soak it up and then toss the tin foil in the garbage when it cools

@OrigamiRobot you just have to make it a few times and experiment. "when it's browner" is a pretty good time to start taking it out

user15026

@Sterno That works too :)

@OrigamiRobot They can't tell you what you like - you need to try it a few times and get the values for your personal oven and taste.

@BenBrocka Also not helpful.

You quickly get a feel for what crispy/chewy bacon looks like

8:51 PM

@OrigamiRobot Turn on oven light. Start starting at bacon after about 15 minutes in the oven. Remove it when it looks good. If you make it to 30 minutes, you suck at looking at things

@JasonBerkan Which is why looking up directions on the internet is useless.

when did this room turn into cooking.se chat? i blame @spugsley

@Jin I <3 food

ugh

food

user15026

Food is amazing

8:52 PM

@OrigamiRobot I agree. Unless you are making something complicated. Steak, bacon and poached eggs are all simple things to cook.

I love food too, I also love eating them

@Sterno "Looks good" is the worst metric for cooking bacon.

It always looks good.

Oven bacon is super simple. 1. Line pan with tin foil. 2. Put bacon in pan. 3. Put pan in oven. 4. Turn oven to 400 degrees. 5. Check it in 20 minutes. If it still looks too fatty for you, check every 2 minutes until you're happy

@Jin The Bridge shifts into many various SE chat rooms. Pretty much all of them except a proper Gaming.SE chat.

@JasonBerkan But if any of those places had said "When it stops bubbling, it's done" it would have been hugely helpful.

8:53 PM

tin foil is even optional! It just helps reduce cleanup

@Jin They discussed Inspector Space Time for 4 hours this morning.

@Sterno I was like "400 degrees? You want to insta-charcoal that bacon?" Then I remembered you use a sucky method of measuring temperature

@Yuki the bridge travels to where the galaxy takes her

I did find good directions for grilling steak on the internet.

@OrigamiRobot Take it out when it stops looking like it will give you salmonela

8:53 PM

Hell, we turn into (shudders) SciFi.SE chat every time we discuss Doctor Who.

@OrigamiRobot Based on oven, pan, exact positioning, and your personal tastes, there is no way for someone to tell you the exact perfect number of minutes for your bacon

But they can get it within 10, which requires a minimum investment on your part to then narrow down for yourself.

@Sterno Why are you telling me this like it's something I don't know?

speaking of random topics, I just watched the Trigun movie. it's pretty good

@OrigamiRobot Well, the 2nd part was the important part that you seem to be too lazy to do.

LOL

Fire alarm at AGDQ

8:55 PM

@Jin I honestly never really liked Trigun all that much.

►

@OrigamiRobot The proper number of minutes for you is 19.7. GO

@Sterno Because I don't want to waste food by getting it wrong.

@Unionhawk whaaa I stopped watching for a bit

@OrigamiRobot If you watch it cook, it's pretty hard to waste it.

@Sterno I already figured out how to make bacon. Cook it till it stops bubbling.

@Sterno Lies.

8:56 PM

@BenBrocka Yup, fire alarm went off, timer's paused, everyone's gone

I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE

Now I'm leaving chat and going to buy some bacon.

Plenty of flashing going on though

@Sterno I WANT TO GO BUY SOME BACON

Yeah, it's also muted.

But it's 10pm here >.>

Q: Why do we let hostile users dictate the perception of Stack Overflow?

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This question is a great example of why Stack Overflow is getting a reputation for being a hostile environment these days Possible to convert C# get,set code to C++ This is clearly a developer used to C# who is trying to apply existing concepts to C++ and failing. You can see from his comm...

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8:57 PM

I like my bacon crispy. You don't cook it till it's crispy. If it gets crispy while you're cooking it, it's burnt. At least on my stove.