The Bridge

> ...and HD version is four times(or even more) slower to make assets for. As an artist I love realistic and shiny stuff, but as a developer I like cartoon-ish more.

@SaintWacko The only thing I don't like about Desura is how buggy the client is.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Hm, they'd both look nice

GnomeSlice

Steam is shitty too though.

SaintWacko

2:20 PM

@GnomeSlice Oh? I haven't run into any issues with it

GnomeSlice

fbueckert

@SaintWacko You just like playing games at work. :P

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko I just use the website, the client is pretty bad.

The website works a lot better though, and unlike Steam you can do everything through your browser

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Nevermind, I like HD

@fbueckert Shhhhh... Don't tell anyone!

:P

GnomeSlice

> Y'know, honestly I can't decide which one I like better. There's things I like about both styles, the basic one is more cartoony and friendly, and the HD one is more realistic and shiny.

SaintWacko

2:21 PM

@GnomeSlice Shiny is good

GnomeSlice

that one I like the HD better

SaintWacko

Yeah, me too

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Did you try the HD demo?

The only thing I don't really like in the HD one is the glass.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Gyeh, he needs to work on the tank contents on the HD of that

GnomeSlice

You can't see through it any more, it's just a bunch of bent reflections.

@SaintWacko For a one man team though it's pretty impressive

Especially considering he's an arcihtect

SaintWacko

2:22 PM

@GnomeSlice Oh, wow

GnomeSlice

Although it sort of explains the theme of the game

SaintWacko

And no, I haven't tried it at all yet

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko try the hd demo out as well as the main game, you can compare the two

SaintWacko

Not willing to play FPS-ish games at work

I do have a line somewhere :P

And when I'm off work I'm usually either at my girlfriend's house, or playing Neverwinter

GnomeSlice

zombygon.com

@SaintWacko I mean later.

SaintWacko

2:25 PM

Something is lagging the hell out of my work computer

►

Lazers

0

Q: What is the difference between an Idris-M and an Idris-P?

On the crowdfunded game Star Citizen, you could pledge on various variants. The civilian Idris-P was for some reason sold at a higher price than the Idris-M. Is there an in-game reason for this, and where can we find the list of differences between both vessels ?

star-citizen

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko you got to that via the game I linked I presume?

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Yes

It's also amusing to hear him spell out A-S-C-I-I

And to hear him say that the first roguelike was rogue

GnomeSlice

indiestatik.com/2013/03/08/roguelike-primer

StrixVaria

Best AskReddit ever.

3

SaintWacko

2:29 PM

@GnomeSlice Yeah, I'm reading that instead

OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria This is dumb.

SaintWacko

> ADOM is what happens when Nethack and Skynet have a baby that decides it’s had quite enough of humanity and wants to make us regret our meaty existence.

Ben Brocka

> one time while i was taking a dump at work some guy came in and shat in the urinal.
i know thats no help but i look for every opportunity to tell people about it. it was just so unbelievable.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka I would too.

@SaintWacko They didn't mention NEO Scavenger... =[

SaintWacko

2:44 PM

The guy who wrote that article seems to be of the opinion that a keyboard oriented interface is bad

OrigamiRobot

GnomeSlice

indiestatik.com/2013/07/29/…

fbueckert

@Lazers Close, people!

OrigamiRobot

Hi @AnnaLear and @AnnaLear's human!

Anna Lear

hola

Sterno

3:13 PM

@OrigamiRobot what is this I don't even

OrigamiRobot

3:31 PM

@Sterno Probably a life hack.

Ben Brocka

Life hack: increase your lifetime by hacking the central nexus and extending your deadline

GnomeSlice

3:46 PM

buh

@BenBrocka Octodad!

Octokid from the size of it

Lazers

1

Q: What's the point of the archangel armor's "flight" capability in Xcom?

I have a bunch of soldiers who are lucky enough to have gotten Archangel armor for christmas this year. But I can't for the life of me figure out how to use flight to my advantage. The game's quite clear that it doesn't convey any elevation bonus It doesn't seem to improve sight lines meaningf...

xcom-enemy-unknown

OrigamiRobot

gaming.stackexchange.com/revisions/88864/2

GnomeSlice

3:53 PM

@OrigamiRobot is there actually a change here?

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice gaming.stackexchange.com/posts/88864/revisions

GnomeSlice

oh

hah

isn't that what tags are for?

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Not their main purpose, but yes.

Arperum

So these changes should be rolled back then?

Ronan Forman

@Arperum Not really any point rolling back, that's just as trivial as the initial edit.

Ullallulloo

3:58 PM

@Arperum It doesn't make it any worse. It's just frivilous editing.

Although I kind of would like to do that out of spite.

Ben Brocka

they were sort of on a kick about editing titles that exclude the software/game name in the title a bit ago

GnomeSlice

Who's 'they'?

-2

Q: What is the music style of Transport Tycoon Deluxe?

Transport Tycoon Deluxe has a nice music set, but I grew a bit tired of them and am looking for variants. Is it just "jazz" or is there a more specific genre to describe this kind of music?

simulation

Somebody who closed that want to leave a comment?

Ronan Forman

It's asking what genre some music is. Of course it's not on topic.

Gaming Topics From Outside

0

Q: Gaming over LAN, VNC alternative?

Okay, I've done more than a little homework about this and am starting to think that the world is somehow opposed to this idea. I have a laptop in my house, SB Core i3 with a GMA HD GPU which is utterly terrible for everything visual, and I would like to stream video from my desktop rig of a 3D...

remote-desktop vnc gaming

Trent Hawkins

@OrigamiRobot would have been a less frivolous edit had the code ticks been removed.

Ben Brocka

4:06 PM

@GnomeSlice SE

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman I didn't say it was, but it was closed and nobody left a comment.

Ben Brocka

38

Q: Titles should be stand-alone summaries of questions *without* depending on tags

Titles should be completely independent of tags. A good title tells an expert whether they want to read the full question all by itself. I know this has come up multiple times before, before, but in each case, the discussion has seemed to have turned into a different question. For example, ...

discussion tags title

StrixVaria

Ronan Forman

@BenBrocka That's stack overflow, here the game gets added to the website title when it's not included.

Ben Brocka

@RonanForman That's a network-wide feature too

fbueckert

4:08 PM

@RonanForman We had a huge conversation about this when they first announced that.

I think our determination was, "We'll keep doing it our way, thanks."

Ronan Forman

@BenBrocka My point was here it's the game elsewhere it might not be.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Well it's usually the game.

Or did we finally get special tags for games.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice In this case it is.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert also, you wouldn't happen to know the answer to this, would you?

Oh, right

fbueckert

Sometimes, bad PR is what's needed to make a company get off it's ass and do it's job

Ben Brocka

4:26 PM

@fbueckert See also literally everything about the Xbox One

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Oh, that link goes directly to the comments of the story. Derp.

The fact that Microsoft has to actually build an entire system to solve this problem should tell you something about the problem to begin with.

Ben Brocka

Why the hell do people bother to send VOICE MAIL to people they hate like that? Why can you even do that to people not on your friends list?

fbueckert

If that had been my son, he would not be playing games for probably a month. And he'd get a very stern lecture on the treatment of ladies.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert A particularly nasty one too

The system they're making for Xbox Live sounds interesting but very complex

fbueckert

@BenBrocka At least everyone else is dogpiling on it.

@BenBrocka Sounds like the LoL Tribunal system.

I think if you violate the terms of service that egregiously, you should lose your account. Full stop. Your choice to do so, and there's a cost involved in doing so. If you had extra time on it, too bad.

Not give warnings ad nauseum.

MAYBE a single warning that your actions are not kosher.

After that, bring the hammer down.

Ronan Forman

4:35 PM

Deleting accounts would work better with xbox's old system of games tied to accounts, then you'd lose the games (or at least their online functionality)

Ben Brocka

As nasty as the people are I think banning them from online play and sending messages (for good, in this case) would be plenty, you'd probably be inviting lawsuits if you actually take away games and stuff they purchased

StrixVaria

> I'm confused why she couldn't just delete the message? People say mean things, the world isn't fair. Sick of all this coddling, A HEADSET IS OPTIONAL.

This is the stupidest argument.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka I was referring more to LoL, because, yeah, I can see taking away games that were paid for is lawsuit worthy.

Take away their ability to play anything online, though.

StrixVaria

There's one professional LoL player who, when asked what feature he wanted to remove, said that he would remove the Tribunal because the ability to talk shit to his opponents was core to his gaming experience.

Ben Brocka

@StrixVaria It's a great argument...if nasty people all sent exactly one nasty message and were never mean to anyone again

...mean people are like that, right?

fbueckert

4:38 PM

"You've violated our terms of service. For that, this game will no longer function online for you ever again, and to drive the point home, we're going to suspend you from all online activities for a month."

Ronan Forman

@fbueckert You'd have to check the ToS to see if that's allowed, but valve have VAC banning, so I'd assume it is.

StrixVaria

People who think it's their right to treat others like shit don't deserve any respect from anyone.

3

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Disabling their ability to interact with players in any non-gameplay way would seem to be the more pressing issue. You can only be so annoying ingame, without text/voice chat

fbueckert

@StrixVaria Being being a dick online is something that's everyone's right to be.

@BenBrocka I can see that as a precursor to a lifetime game ban.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka fatuglyorslutty.com

it happens more than you think

fbueckert

4:40 PM

If they continue to do so, then it's, "Welp, we warned you. You didn't listen."

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice Why can you even send that stuff to people you're not friends to? That seems really stupid

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka No shit

fbueckert

Actions having consequences is something that this generation seems to have lost.

Ronan Forman

@BenBrocka A shitty feature from Microsoft? Never!

fbueckert

Being online does not absolve you from being responsible for them.

GnomeSlice

4:42 PM

@StrixVaria This is stupid.

Ronan Forman

Actions having consequences is the whole point of gaming. The sped up cause/event cycle is what makes them appealing.

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice I lost all respect for that entire team when I heard that.

Now I root for their opponent every match, regardless of other circumstances.

fbueckert

@RonanForman I don't follow.

Wipqozn

@StrixVaria What if their opponent was Hitler?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Hitler is dead.

Ben Brocka

4:44 PM

Dragon's Crown (PS3) $40.49 at Newegg http://ow.ly/nXI73

Tweeted by videogamedeals on August 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

oooo

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Hypothetical situation gnome, jeez.

Ronan Forman

@fbueckert One of the main appeals to games its the sense of control you get over the world. You wouldn't get that if it too days for your actions to take effect.

Ben Brocka

If most undead are evil, would Zombie Hitler turn out good?

fbueckert

@RonanForman Actions in-game, yes. I'm talking about actions being taken in real life, against other players.

Ronan Forman

I don't think zombie hitler would be any different to any other zombie. Don't they kind of forget who they are.

@fbueckert My point was if we make games like that shouldn't the bits around them be similar.

I need more question marks. ??

Wipqozn

4:46 PM

@BenBrocka I think being undead increases your level of evil. I suppose it's possible if it increased his evilness by so much that there was interger overflow (which I don't think is the right term, but I'm drawing a blank on it right now)

GnomeSlice

What could possess someone to send that to a stranger over the internet.

What could they honestly think is going to happen.

fbueckert

@RonanForman Problem is that your behaviour online requires oversight in order to regulate it. You'd need an entire fleet of moderators to ensure a reasonable turnaround time when your actions cross the line.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman farmville

Ben Brocka

People are weird. These people used these computers for years, they got Windows Update messages for years. Now they're remoting into those machines for Epicor (accounting software) and suddenly the Windows update window must be an "Epicor" update because the whole PC is "Epicor" now

Wipqozn

Oh, I need some Caedeus furs eventually. Might do a run of him online. Give some randoms a hand with the urgent.

Ronan Forman

4:48 PM

@GnomeSlice No, the consequences happen immediately, you just have to wait days between actions.

GnomeSlice

stupid CC @StrixVaria

@RonanForman Oh, I guess.

@RonanForman EVE online?

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice timely insults from 1940

GnomeSlice

Apparently it's a custom spray or something in an online game?

Ben Brocka

Did anyone get Dragon's Crown? I don't want to get it and find no one to play with

@GnomeSlice Source online games let you use custom sprays, so yeah you can paint whatever you want basically

OrigamiRobot

14 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot

Anyone want my Steam keys for Dead Space, Crysis 2 Maximum Edition, or Mirror's Edge?

14 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot

Or any of my Origin keys from the humble bundle?

Ronan Forman

4:53 PM

I used to have one that was quite wordy, so people would stop to read it.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka That sounds like a terrible idea.

@RonanForman HAH

And then you kill them

wat

Ben Brocka

5 star rep A+++ would game again

GnomeSlice

Oh God, hahahahahaha.

I mean it's not funny.

> With a cheerful grin

Ben Brocka

Users banned from Xbox Live for making abusive statements will be given a promotional copy of League of Legends

Tweeted by TheXbone on August 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka wat

Ben Brocka

4:56 PM

(read the name)

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Tell me this is a joke

Oh

Isn't LoL free anyway?

OrigamiRobot

I need to make a new @GnomeSlice card

Ben Brocka

Yeah, still thought it was funny though

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice, Slayer of Jokes

Legendary Creature - Buzzkill

Sconibulus

(1) Bury target Joke

OrigamiRobot

4:59 PM

@Sconibulus That wording is super old.

GnomeSlice

Sconibulus

it may be old... but it's concise

GnomeSlice

> why sure, yes please stranger I've never met

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Who are you to judge?

James

@OrigamiRobot He is GnomeSlice The Magnificent!!!!

OrigamiRobot

5:02 PM

It's @James!

Have you played any MWO recently?

James

@OrigamiRobot Not much as of late man.. Quite a bit of Payday 2 though :D

OrigamiRobot

@James I think I should see what's been added since I last played.

fbueckert

> Update: In news that shouldn't shock, EA's official announcement on PvZ 2's launch notes the game will come to other platforms "later this year and beyond."

For sure it has to come to other platforms.

Gamers would boil EA alive if it didn't.

TheAce

exaxctly

fbueckert

Hello, @TheAce. Welcome to the Bridge.

TheAce

5:05 PM

i loved the pc version of PvZ

James

@OrigamiRobot If you played the beta, you can get to level 100 now and 5 more missions were added.. That is about it

TheAce

hey thanks for the welcome :)

GnomeSlice

Hey, new guy!

OrigamiRobot

@James I don't think you realize how long it's been since I played.

James

@OrigamiRobot I think that is why I started with the word 'If' :)

OrigamiRobot

5:06 PM

@GnomeSlice James isn't new.

TheAce

but i am ;)

GnomeSlice

Ronan Forman

@TheAce Don't mind @OrigamiRobot he needs a software upgrade and possibly a reboot.

GnomeSlice

wat

TheAce

@GnomeSlice wtf......

GnomeSlice

5:09 PM

37 secs ago, by GnomeSlice

wat

People send the dumbest messages

CC @BenBrocka

Ullallulloo

@OrigamiRobot 12vs12, canyons, and a really cool looking lava map.

TheAce

ive only ever gotten one told me to kill myself

lawl

OrigamiRobot

@James There's a bunch of new mechs since I played.

GnomeSlice

@TheAce There's whole websites dedicated to this stuff.

This one for example.

TheAce

@GnomeSlice oh i know

fbueckert

5:10 PM

@TheAce The little arrow on the right of lines you hover over allow you to reply to specific messages.

James

@OrigamiRobot Well its pretty fun.. I am level 41 or 42.. I forget

TheAce

@fbueckert oh thanks also thanks for answering my question yesterday

GnomeSlice

zirconstudios.bandcamp.com/track/across-the-ocean

Also, any FF7 fans?

fbueckert

@TheAce I had been confused which Harvest Moon you were talking about. I had to run through some reference material to double-check.

GnomeSlice

Because ramesesb.bandcamp.com

Lazers

5:14 PM

0

Q: When I updated I lost my mobs and there is no peaceful mode

I just updated minecraft to 0.7.3 pocket edition and when I play survival mode I don't have any mobs and my hearts come back audimadically. I know about peaceful mode but the new version doesn't have a way to do that. How do I get my mobs back?

ios minecraft-pocket-edition

-2

Q: First game program

Well hello! I am just asking a simple question. I recently decided I wanted to delve into games, and to be simple the first project I am going for is a simple side scrolling game. Nothing fancy. ANYWAY, I was just looking into using GameMaker something or other, and it seemed very simple. What i...

pc

TheAce

@fbueckert There needs to me more HM tags (and it also didn't help the tags kept getting changed

GnomeSlice

@TheAce Which question?

fbueckert

@TheAce The tags get created as questions are asked about them. :)

If no one asks a question, there's no reason to have a tag.

TheAce

@fbueckert good point :)

Wipqozn

@TheAce Yeah, we can't actually have tags without a question.

If you ever need a tag for a game which doesn't exist you can just leave a comment under your question asking someone to make one for you.

GnomeSlice

5:16 PM

2

Q: How do I get my tools back?

I was talking to the sprite behind my tool shed one day, and he offered to upgrade my hammer. Then I spoke to him again and he offered to upgrade my hoe. It's been longer then he said it would be to complete the upgrades, so now he has both my tools, and won't give them back. How can I get them ...

game-boy harvest-moon

This one?

Just paste the link by itself

TheAce

oh ok

Wipqozn

You'll eventually be able to make new tags by yourself. Need certain reputation.

GnomeSlice

=]

@TheAce Which tag do you need for that question?

TheAce

thanksfor all the help guys :)

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn zirconstudios.bandcamp.com/track/across-the-ocean

this is amazing

TheAce

5:17 PM

@GnomeSlice well i don't now it's answered

GnomeSlice

@TheAce It's still good to have things properly tagged. Which game is it?

Wipqozn

Harvest Moon GB

is the second game in the Harvest Moon series of video games, and was developed by Victor Interactive Software. Harvest Moon GB is the first portable Harvest Moon game, developed for the Game Boy. A Game Boy Color version was released later under the name Harvest Moon GBC. Gameplay Before beginning, the player is able to choose whether to play as a girl or a boy, and name themselves. At the beginning of the game, the player's deceased grandfather visits them as a spirit and asks them to take over his farm. He implores them to succeed him as a Ranch Master, stating he will check on the p...

Is that the ame you were asking about?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn oh, that's the title?

TheAce

@Wipqozn thats the one

Wipqozn

Tag made.

GnomeSlice

5:19 PM

@Wipqozn I was gonna do it

But okay.

TheAce

awesome lol

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice TOO SLOW

GnomeSlice

harvest-moon-gb

@Wipqozn You're right I should have just made an assumption instead of asking him which game he was playing first. ;]

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Like I just did?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Well, yes...

Wipqozn

5:20 PM

You lost gnomeslice, just suck it up and move on. I'M THE ONE WITH THE TROPHY HERE.

GnomeSlice

10 hours left for Survivor Squad

fbueckert

@Wipqozn See, this confuses me.

Wipqozn

I've got it mounted on my wall "Edits Tag Faster Than @GnomeSlice"

fbueckert

It makes me think it's a GB port of the SNES game, not another game in the series.

Dammit, Natsume, quit not numbering your sequels!

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Nintendo does that a lot with their Games.

New super MArio Brothers Wii.

I know Natsume isn;t nintendo, but at that point that's literally all they made games for

Ronan Forman

5:21 PM

@Wipqozn: When a Gnome creature is in play, Wipqozn gains haste.

Wipqozn

@RonanForman I like it.

fbueckert

And this is why we shouldn't be telling people to go ask their off-topic somewhere else

If it's acceptable, we can migrate it.

TheAce

@fbueckert migrate where?

fbueckert

@TheAce Someone asked an off-topic question here. A couple other users told him to ask it on GameDev, even though it's clearly off-topic there.

If the question was just asked at the wrong site, we can migrate the acceptable ones over to the correct site.

TheAce

@fbueckert got ya

user15026

5:40 PM

@blem I actually sorta got sleep last night! So I wasn't really online at 3 am :p

Ben Brocka

5:52 PM

@Wipqozn I liked that game. Someone made a super-limited TI 83 port of it even

GnomeSlice

I can't stop listening to this

zirconstudios.bandcamp.com/track/across-the-ocean

Lazers

1

Q: How is Multiplayer and achievement tracking done with Steam and Origin?

I bought a bundle (the HumbleBundle), and it provided me with codes for the game on both Steam and Origin. I activated all the codes successfully on both clients, but I was wondering: If I play a game (say, Medal of Honor) online, how will it track my stats? It won't matter if I start it through...

steam achievements origin

0

Q: Is there a specific bank balance that a club must have before improving youth or training facilities?

When interacting with the board to improve youth or training facilities, is there a specific bank balance that the club must have in order to improve? For example, does the club need a bank balance of £X to improve from "basic" to "adequate" and £XY to improve them to the next stage?

football-manager-2012

0

Q: How do you refill your stock?

I don't understand how you regain lives in Every Extend Extra to explode yourself while doing combos. I mostly go Game Over by the time the first Boss hits. Can someone explain that please?

every-extend-extra

Ben Brocka

Gone home looks neat

skovacs1

@Lazers Related to this, which games on Origin actually have achievements? All I can find is help.ea.com/ca/article/achievements-and-origin-points#top which only lists Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3, and Dead Space 3. That's from May 28 so have they added any more or is that it?

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka That's fantastic.

That's more then fantastic, that's super fantastic.

user15026

6:08 PM

@BenBrocka It sounds awesome. I like that you get to just wander and explore

Wipqozn

@BenBrocka That looks interesting.

Chinese zoo under fire for disguising hairy dog as lion

user15026

Trying the demo for Mario and Luigi Dream Team makes me SUPER want to play it.

Wipqozn

I'm refusing to buy that game until I beat the bowser one.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn You're slow, turtle.

Wipqozn

I need to stop not finishing games.

user15026

6:19 PM

@Wipqozn Oh, you should finish it, it was awesome

user15026

I love the Mario and Luigi games though a lot

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn I know, I'm just a terrible person.

fbueckert

sigh

user15026

@Wipqozn you really are

fbueckert

Well, effort's being expended. Here's hoping we can nudge him into something approaching quality.

Ben Brocka

6:29 PM

You guys like browser toolbars, right? Because Yahoo has a new browser toolbar for ya

StrixVaria

Ben Brocka

Even more revolutionary than that time they made a weather app. Weather. On your PHONE

These guys are great

user15026

I am super sad this season of VGHS is not catching my brain as much as last season

skovacs1

35 mins ago, by skovacs1

@Lazers Related to this, which games on Origin actually have achievements? All I can find is https://help.ea.com/ca/article/achievements-and-origin-points#top which only lists Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3, and Dead Space 3. That's from May 28 so have they added any more or is that it?

Ben Brocka

6:48 PM

@skovacs1 I only have DS3 and BF3 so I can't say...though I will be activating (if not playing) those humble origin bundle games as soon as Origin stops exploding

skovacs1

@BenBrocka Same, but I have ME3 as well. It's just that the update this talks about was early May, and this Q&A is dated May 28. It's been 2.5 months and I was just wondering if they'd bothered to add to that or if there was maybe some list or something.

It is likely no coincidence that the 3 games with Origin achievements are not available on Steam.

Ben Brocka

They're probably only on games after the "fuck you no more steam" thing

Who goes to Origin to buy games they could get on steam, honestly

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