The Bridge - 2013-06-27 (page 6 of 7)

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7:00 PM

Traits typically caused by testosterone.

@ChrisHateZ I am an adorable robot.

@Ullallulloo -1 no bacon

@Sterno kilt

'cept the hair I guess.

@OrigamiRobot I once talked with a person for thirty minutes at the school bar. At some point I noticed that she used once a feminine adjective for themselves. That killed the discussion pretty quickly after I admitted in shame that I thought she was male >_<

7:01 PM

@badp This is the problem.

my terminal shyness in talking with women I'm not familiar with might've played in that, but...

LoL

Server closed == awesome outro :D

@Sterno I tried to edit, but missed the window by two seconds.

Where the hell do you two live that you meet so many women that look like men?

@ChrisHateZ I'm talking about a hypothetical situation and did not specify one way over the other.

7:02 PM

@ChrisHateZ I said, "once."

Honestly, "she's a man" here is a colloquialism for "she's really really ugly"

I'm sorry guys, but your comfort zone < someone's personal choice on how they choose to present themselves and whether you realize it or not, insisting otherwise is honestly pretty disrespectful. You're essentially saying "You need to conform to my expectations about how certain genders should appear so I don't feel uncomfortable."

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@badp Shyness around women aside, I'm pretty sure at no point during that conversation was the right thing for you to say, "Woah, I thought this whole time you were a dude!"

@Sterno Of course it's dumb in hindsight.

@FAE I have to agree.

I am just going to stay out of the conversation but star everything @FAE says

7:04 PM

And I have to go now so my food doesn't get cold. Later.

I don't remember if it happened because she used a female adjective and I mentioned it or because I used a male adjective and she corrected it

@FAE All I'm saying is that it leads to awkward situations and I do not like that.

The guy at the grocery store called my daughter "little man" the other day.

Babies are hard to tell.

SHE WAS 15

>__<

or 16? who the hell knows. at least I think I was 15.

I'm not advocating that people wear some sort of badge for their gender here.

7:06 PM

@badp Tell it to the courts!

@OrigamiRobot is this situation not awkward?

@Sterno tsk! age of consent here is 14.

@kalina What situation?

Somewhat related: I've been called a lesbian before.

@badp Where are you from?

7:06 PM

@ChrisHateZ Italy.

@OrigamiRobot the one where you're stating your opinion and finding it's not universally agreed with?

I think it's 14, I could be wrong

@kalina No, that's life.

@kalina Is it not awkward for you too then?

It doesn't come up a lot honestly

7:07 PM

That's the worst argument.

and we don't really have the idea of "jailbait"

@badp No,no i think you're right. It was 12 before, then they changed it to 14 i think.

@Ullallulloo no, I don't end up in awkward situations in chat

@FAE It's not about comfort zones. It's about me accidentally offending people.

@badp Of course not, it's Europe.

@OrigamiRobot I'm sure they'll survive, don't worry 'bout it.

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7:10 PM

@OrigamiRobot I don't think that people need to conform to your idea of a binary just so you don't chance offending them

Just default to feminine pronouns if you're in doubt. Calling a guy a girl might get you punched, but calling a girl a guy might make her cry. Go for getting punched. Let's be honest, you probably have it coming for something or other anyway, right?

4 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

I'm not advocating that people wear some sort of badge for their gender here.

:|

user15026

@OrigamiRobot It feels like you are

I just said I wasn't!

7:11 PM

@Sterno You can simply ask the persons name, that can help you identify its gender in most cases.

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@ChrisHateZ Names are usually a good indicator

@ChrisHateZ There are two parties that have to deal with it.

@ChrisHateZ Then you meet "Chris" (aka @gracenote)

@ChrisHateZ "Nat"

@OrigamiRobot So you feel bad when you offend someone, even if by accident?

7:12 PM

@ChrisHateZ Yes.

@OrigamiRobot Oh, i see.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot So how do you think this should be solved?

@ChrisHateZ What am I supposed to feel like? "You brought it onto yourself because of your defiance of the gender binary?"

That's pretty much the last thing that comes to mind honestly

FFS people I'm not seriously saying anyone needs to do anything. I was simply making a comment about mistaking someone's gender being awkward.

@ChrisHateZ Charlie, Sidney, Hayden, Alex

7:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot Is this a male or a female?

@Sterno Sloth is in the URL. Try harder next time.

@OrigamiRobot Will do!

Well in my country name is very clear indicator of ones gender.

(also I'm not sure why Ashley didn't call out on the idea that mistaking a woman will make her cry and mistaking a man will make him punch you)

Names that can be used by both genders are VERY rare here.

7:16 PM

@ChrisHateZ tbh, until today I always thought you were a guy.

user15026

@badp I missed that, entirely, but if you want me to, I can....although it feels like you are more being sarcastic about it, and that kinda sucks

@Ullallulloo Huh? And now you don't?

user15026

@ChrisHateZ Where is your country, if I may ask?

@AshleyNunn Croatia.

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@ChrisHateZ Ah, yeah, I can see how there would be a general structure of naming that leads to clearer gender identification, usually. :)

7:18 PM

@Ullallulloo I just assume people on the internet are cats.

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Cats don't care if you mistake their gender.

@AshleyNunn Yep, most female names here end with "a".

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Q: Do rings of the same kind stack?

For example, if I equip two rings of mending, do their effects on my health regeneration stack? I'm guessing it will be easiest to check with two rings of detection, but I haven't had the chance to find two of these in the same game yet...

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Q: Getting to level 36 candy crush

I am still stuck going from level 35 to 36. Three friends sent me lives, butI only just joined Facebook and I am not very technical, so I assume these live were applied. I still can'tcan get to 36. What do I need to do

candy-crush-saga

@ChrisHateZ Not as easy as in Bali.

Actually i can't think of even 1 female name that doesn't end with an "a" here.

@OrigamiRobot My grandpa's cat was called "Romeo", then she gave birth to eight kittens.

I guess it must be a genetic thing

7:21 PM

@badp I was going to name my cat Randolph Carter even if it was a girl.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Did you ever end up giving it a name? I know last night you were thinking of naming it something that wasn't that. :)

@AshleyNunn Have you been listening to Night Vale?

user15026

@OrigamiRobot I have

user15026

I am not too far yet though

Andrea can be a very misleading name, as it is used for different genders in different regions

7:24 PM

@MadScientist and the funny thing is, "andros" means male man in greek.

@AshleyNunn Khoshekh is a cat in there.

@MadScientist In Croatia: Andrea = female, Andreo = male

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Ah, I don't think I have gotten that far.

@MadScientist Andrea is a male name somewhere?

@AshleyNunn Introduced in episode 2 or 3, given a name in episode 9.

Andrea is a given name which is common worldwide. *In Czech, Slovak, Serbian, Macedonian, Dutch, English, German, Hungarian, Scandinavian languages and Spanish, Andrea is used as a woman's name, as the feminine form of Andrew, Andreas, András, Andrés, Anders or Andre. *In Italian, Albanian and Romansh Andrea is a masculine name, the equivalent of Andrew. *In Croatia, Serbia and Slovenia, Andrea is a feminine name; Andreja is another form of feminine name, while Andrija, Andro and Andrej are masculine forms. The only exception is Istria, where Andrea is a male name. *In Romania Andreea...

7:25 PM

@OrigamiRobot Andrea and variants should probably never be a female name

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Ah, okay, yeah, I am on 4, so it is still nameless

It's purely used as a female name here, I was rather confused when I encountered a male Andrea from Switzerland

Andrea (The Walking Dead)

Andrea is a fictional character from the comic book series The Walking Dead and is portrayed by Laurie Holden in the American television series of the same name. Over the course of both media, Andrea develops from an insecure and inexperienced young woman into a hardened warrior. Since the comic launched, she has remained one of the comic's longest-living survivors, alongside Rick, Carl, Maggie and Sophia. Appearances Comic book series Andrea is introduced in issue two of The Walking Dead as a survivor of the zombie apocalypse. A former file clerk, Andrea is a head-strong and inde...

First example I could think of.

@OrigamiRobot Just because people use it as a female name, it doesn't stop "andros" from meaning what it means

@MadScientist Would be quite akward if he looked feminine too, did he?

7:26 PM

> Gender: Female, except in Italian, Albanian and Romansh where it is Male

> Origin: Greek aner, andros, "man" (i.e. adult male)

user15026

@badp Welcome to the evolution of language, I guess.

@ChrisHateZ Don't think so, but I was a child then and it was pretty long ago

@MadScientist Oh.

user15026

I mean we have people naming their kids Pilot Inspektor for goodness sake..

7:28 PM

@AshleyNunn I'm rather glad that in Germany the worst names are prevented by the Standesamt

@badp Andrea is the female form of "Andrew".

@AshleyNunn Then you must be from 'murrica?

There are a lot of those pairs, and it's stupid.

@badp I didn't say "will", I said might. In most cases neither will happen. But pretending that men and women react to things the same way is silly. They don't. Some guys might cry. Some girls might hit you. But in general, men are going to be more angry about the mistake and women more hurt by it (when it comes from a man, anyway)

user15026

@ChrisHateZ Well, Canada, but it is essentially the same

7:29 PM

@AshleyNunn Canada is somewhat fine.

For instance, men are way more likely to say stupid things in Internet chat rooms. Truth!

My point is 100% about the origin of the name, regardless of its variations and endings

user15026

@MadScientist Yeah, I always think "do you realize your child will grow up with that name?"

@AshleyNunn He can always change it later.

user15026

@ChrisHateZ grins yay for us then :P

7:30 PM

You must be 18 to change your name, right?

Or can you do it earlier.

user15026

@ChrisHateZ I suppose, but that is a whole other pile of complication

user15026

@ChrisHateZ I think here it is 18, but I am not 100% sure

@badp And Aluminum was originally called Alumium and then Aluminum, yet British people insist on calling it neither.

@OrigamiRobot THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT ITS NAME ORIGINALLY MEANT which only really relevant when it comes to christening

ἀνδρεῖος (andreios) m, ἀνδρεία (andreia) f, ανδρεῖον (andreion) n; first/second declension;
1. Of or pertaining to a man
2. manly, masculine, courageous, strong
3. stubborn

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/…

@badp Robert Jordan must have seen this definition when he came up with Nynaeve.

7:34 PM

@badp It has everything to do with my point which is NOBODY CARES ABOUT WORD ORIGINS THEY'LL USE WORDS HOWEVER THEY WANT.

@OrigamiRobot Etymology is interesting but mostly useless.

@OrigamiRobot nomen omen!!

WHY ARE MOMMY AND DADDY YELLING?

@Sterno I'm not your real father™

@Sterno Because you didn't finish your vegetables.

user15026

7:37 PM

@OrigamiRobot Language evolves.

I guess the redeeming quality of "Andrea" is that it probably doesn't rhyme with anything nasty

...if anything at all

@badp Hm, i really can't think of anything so you might be right.

@badp chlamydia

user15026

@badp depending on the pronunciation, Himalaya?

or cholera

user15026

7:46 PM

.....basically, anything with that particular "a" sound at the end would work sorta

Bluurgh. Jalapeno and cheddar smokie, and a small poutine for lunch. I am full.

@fbueckert Jerk. That sounds really freaking good.

Poutine. Yuck.

@AshleyNunn indeed, like "kamehameha"

@ShotgunNinja Helps that the food is all handmade, and I get treated so well there.

user15026

7:49 PM

@fbueckert Jealous. I have yet to feel well enough to move from bed, so food has not yet happened

@AshleyNunn What's wrong?

Rogue legacy looks/sounds awesome.

> Each time you die, your child will succeed you.

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@ChrisHateZ Flu-ish thing. And standing = dizzy, so I am like. nope. bed forever

@StrixVaria It is

Does this mean future runs are affected by past ones in any way?

7:50 PM

I've been playing it since it released

@AshleyNunn Aw, get better!

@StrixVaria No, not really

Or is that just a clever way to say that you randomly roll a new character?

user15026

@ChrisHateZ Thanks. :)

Except you still have the same equipment unlocked

7:51 PM

@SaintWacko Hm...

I'll watch some gameplay when I get home tonight.

user15026

@StrixVaria fixed it

@StrixVaria It's mostly that they have random traits

@SaintWacko I'll probably download and play it tommorow. It's too late to get frustrated today xD

Colorblind, nearsighted, that sort of thing

@ChrisHateZ It is very frustrating :P

> Rogue-lite. Your character dies, but with each passing your lineage grows and becomes stronger.

I really like that idea.

But @SaintWacko you're saying that's not entirely true?

7:52 PM

@StrixVaria You have a castle you can build, it unlocks classes, increases stats and that sorta thing.

@ChrisHateZ Neat.

So when you die with a character you can use that money you got with him to upgrade your next characters and buy gear for them.

> More than 8 classes to choose from (9)!

Cool thing is that you really have to spend all that money before going in dungeon again, because Charon the guy who lets you in dungeon takes away all your money.

Hahaha

7:53 PM

@StrixVaria Well, I'm not seeing the characters themselves become much stronger. But yeah, you upgrade your equpiment and stats

This feature list is amazing.

> Tons of secrets and easter eggs to uncover... or are there? Yes there are.

> Clowns.

Yeah the devs of that game are pretty cool.

Base stats of your new characters are not going to be any higher then default. Only by the upgrades you buy.

It just came out, so it won't be discounted for the Summer Sale....right...?

@StrixVaria There's no way to know.

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Q: How far into the main game should you be before starting Dragon's Keep?

There's only a handful of big events or facts to be spoiled that I can think of in the main Borderlands 2 game. In no particular order: I'm aware there are some spoilers (particularly the last two items on the above list) in Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon's Keep, but I haven't played all the wa...

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Q: Tips for defeating Attack at the Hospital?

I'm having trouble with the Attack at the Hospital mission: Three lanes feel a bit too much for the amount of defenders I can field here. And I'm guessing the ice mage should go into that island in the shorter center lane, but then it suggests my defenders should be concentrated about that par...

defenders-quest

7:56 PM

They had a discount on pre-order untill recently. I don't think there will be another discount on it anytime soon, but then again you never know.

How does this Steam trading card thingy work? I just got one card that seems to be worth 50 cents, how many do I get and does it make sense to just sell them?

Interestingly, Rogue Legacy looks like everything I wanted out of Chasm (which doesn't seem to actually be much like what I wanted it to be).

Clowns are frightening.

Sigh was trying to get the game to recognize my gamepad, steam ceased launching the game. tried to reboot my computer aaaand.... backlog of windows updated!

An interesting fact, Rogue Legacy was inspired by Dark Souls.

7:57 PM

@MadScientist The # of cards there are differs per game. For each game, you can get up to half the # of cards from them dropping.

@StrixVaria i liked the "hope you like palette swaps!" one

@MadScientist Doubles still count against the drop rate. Sell'em if you don't want'em.

Does the card depend on any condition? I got the Salvador card in BL2 while playing this character, so would I have to play the other ones to get more cards?

With a full set, you can craft a badge which will unlock an emoticon and profile background related to the game in question

@MadScientist No, fully random.

I can't wait for Broforce to get released. That game is so much fun it's insane.

7:59 PM

I've no interest in any badges or stuff, but I'd go for free money if Steam wants to throw it at me. So just selling cards when I get them is a reasonable strategy, or?

@MadScientist yes.

@Sterno I made 15€ or so, no foils, just 50 or so regular cards

@MadScientist Yeah. Foils are worth more.

@MadScientist I think someone said that once you had a badge you became eligible for booster pack drops for that game?

I played the "brototype" of Broforce and had a blast of fun. Can't remember the last game i had that much fun with.

I'll go ahead and ask my questions on the main site, there are bound to be more people as confused as I am about this thingy

8:00 PM

Theoretically you might make more money by getting and selling boosters

But I think we're talking chump change either way

@Sconibulus I think that you don't need to have the badge crafted for that, just have your drops used up, from what I understand.

@Sterno boosters are items?

@FAE Oh, cool, then I don't need to try to make badges.

Packs of 3 cards, but you can only get them if you have all the cards of a set

@Sconibulus I think, yeah.

8:02 PM

Epic game is epic.

Hmm, so I have three drops for BL2, I assume I don't get more if I sell a card?

@Sconibulus Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno, see @Sterno.

@MadScientist Correct.

@Sterno the page says you just need to have run out of cards (plus weekly logins)

There's a Q on Arqade about it

@MadScientist If you go on your Badges page of your profile page the "No card drop remaining" links (or so) can be clicked to give you more information.

8:03 PM

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Q: How do trading card booster packs drop?

So today I woke up and noticed new item in inventory which was a booster pack containing 3 cards from L4D 2. From what I see on market these booster packs are new (graph only shows up to 19 of June). No matter the game it seems to always contain 3 cards. There are two actions I can do with it: un...

steam steam-trading-cards

@badp That's what I thought

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it either looks like this ↑

I read that as "filled out the set", but "ran out pf drops" fits too

I was about to ask a question on the main site, but it's already answered there. We're too efficient

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or like this ↑

8:05 PM

<- bad at reading comprehension I guess

So I guess the answer is that yes, you should sell all the things!

oh, card boosters are on the market

I'll have to do something against my underleved gear, BL2 can get rather frustrating without the right guns

1-3€ each

and they're pretty damn rare too

You pay for card drops in F2P games? That feels dirty.

I mean, I get you're really paying for the hats or whatever. But still.

@Sterno To be fair, the entire thing is kinda eeeeeeh

8:09 PM

@Sterno So people can't download a billion f2p games and idle in it

@FAE yeah

the cards are, apparently, to incentivize ownership after all

I am going to continue to not pay any attention to trading cards at all and just play games that I want to play.

@BenBrocka yeah, if they did that, steam badges would lose all meaning!!!

It'll be just like before they existed!

8:09 PM

The whole thing seems rather pointless to me, but well, so are hats. If I can sell those cards I don't have the slightest interest in for some negligible amount of money, that's still more than nothing

@Sterno Well people can sell them and shit (right?). Stupid as it is, in theory they're worth very small amounts of money

@Sterno There's still a minimum number.

@MadScientist I've never used Steam Wallet. Does it let you pay partially between that and other methods?

I don't want to have like, 5 cents leftover or something and not be able to do anything with it.

Steam's not going to give you a vector to make money, no matter how mindlessly stupid a vector, without you paying up a bit

For instance, you can get 5 cards from TF2 without paying anything... I think.

8:11 PM

@FAE No idea

@FAE yes.

Having said that, you only get 5 cards period unless you randomly get a booster after those 5.

@Powerlord Nope.

You only get 5 free drops for having spent money in the game store before the thing was announced

...or for having received your 5 free drops in the one day or so before this policy was announced

http://t.co/W3W8fbmVeq

Tweeted by Indextic on June 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM

after that it's $9/card

(which is ridiculously expensive if you're just looking for cards)

8:13 PM

Think of all the hats you could buy for $45

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@BenBrocka LoL is pretty much the only thing I watch on Twitch.

Most of the streamers are the worst.

All tied for equally despicable.

Rogue Legacy's on Steam.

@Ullallulloo I wonder what's the malus to being flatulent in that game

maybe stealth penalties?

imagines people rerolling through generations until they get the right defect

@BenBrocka lol, I know Indextic; he's a speedrunner who gained infamy by ruining a marathon run of Wind Waker by talking through the entire thing at the last AGDQ.

8:22 PM

@ShotgunNinja was he the one that kept spelling out those "did you knows" technical tidbits of trivia?

I don't think I've seen that segment specifically

@badp Yeah. Cosmo, the guy playing the game, had him as a moderator and technical assistant from his channel, but in person, got really, really annoyed by him.

Its even funnier because the cop is so calm

@ShotgunNinja How did this ruin the run?

@ShotgunNinja I had mixed feelings about him; he was trying to be entertaining and informative but... he just never could shut up for more than a minute

@ShotgunNinja Do they usually not talk? At least on the Twitch normal streams almost all of the non-japanese speedrunners do

8:24 PM

finally, straight hair

Afternoon, Bridge.

@BenBrocka It wasn't the talking; it's that he was stealing Cosmo's thunder.

Things you do not want to know!

Cosmo wanted to explain it himself, and leave some of it a mystery, but Index kept chiming in and explaining everything. Cosmo didn't really say anything to him aloud during the stream, for fear of losing his concentration, but he exploded on him afterwards.

@Blem I already know all about castoreum being used for vanilla and strawberry/raspberry flavorings.

@ShotgunNinja Ohhh he wasn't the one running

8:28 PM

@kalina ruiner

Was he the one cosmo told to shut up?

@BenBrocka that's what Shotgun just finished saying

Oh wow, Legends of Dawn is out.

@OrigamiRobot no u

@badp he told someone to shut up mid-stream

8:32 PM

I wonder how good will the game be. It's made by Croatian developers.

well it must be somewhere in youtube.com/watch?v=Qx69CZe-65E, if you want to skim a 5 hours video

I hoped to find a timepoint in the comments but

this was disappointing :P

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Q: Is there any way to save drumsticks or mana bottles?

Sometimes when I break something, it will drop either a drumstick (restores health) or a mana bottle (restores mana). Is there any way to save those for later, or to know where they will drop from, so I don't waste them?

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Q: What are the Misc. Stat categories in Offspring Fling?

In Offspring Fling, on the stats screen, there is a section entitled Misc. Stats which has three categories. When you first start the game, these categories are hidden (they appear as question marks) and the categories appear once you get a score in the category that is high enough. I've complet...

offspring-fling

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Q: In Skyrim the Elder Scrolls V, do the goods on tables and stuff in the solitude blacksmith regenerate?

I stole a ton of ingots and stuff from the solitude blacksmith in solitude and I really want to know if that stuff will ever regenerate or if I should just forget the place.

@ChrisHateZ I don't think that would necessarily have anything to do with whether or not the game is good. o_O

@Fluttershy Nor have i said it does.

I'm from Croatia hence I'm quite interested in how good the game is. We really don't have a lot of devs. Only ones i know of are CroTeam who made Serious Sam.

Ah well, I'll be too busy with Rogue Legacy to bother playing anything else.

I am bored

...fixitfixitfixit

8:43 PM

@kalina Set something on fire?

Only 3 races, but i do like the fact that the monster AI will act differently based on the time of the day and weather.

too bored to set things on fire

@kalina I'd suggest something but i don't want to get flaged =p

do it so I can flag you

@kalina I've given you one suggest you refuse to take.

8:45 PM

@fbueckert ?

no I don't want to chat you up on steam

for the FINAL TIME

@kalina Har har.

@kalina You really love flaging people, don't you.

@ChrisHateZ I love lots of things, I am not at liberty to disclose any of them

@kalina Because they tend to get you flagged.

@kalina Except fire.

8:47 PM

@Fluttershy hehe

@badp Yeah, that's it.

@kalina Yeah, didn't that get flagged and removed yesterday?

@ShotgunNinja I didn't get flagged yesterday

oh, so just removed then? Or was that two days ago?

you must be suffering from some weird time related issues

It was like 10 days ago

8:50 PM

o_O

ughbugh, one more hour of work

I'm quite bored as well now. Hm.

> Dispatcher: 9-1-1 Caller: Yeah, I’m having trouble breathing. I’m all out of breath. Darn….I think I’m going to pass out. Dispatcher: Sir, where are you calling from? Caller: I’m at a pay phone. North and Foster. Dispatcher: ! Sir, an ambulance is on the way. Are you an asthmatic? Caller: No Dispatcher: What were you doing before you started having trouble breathing? Caller: Running from the Police.

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only in America

@kalina 'murrica!

Murrika, fuck year

8:54 PM

Oh by the way

Where are you from kalina, if i may ask?

Earth

@kalina Be more specific?

it says so on my profile

Earth, the third planet from the Sun, Solar System, Milky Way

@kalina Yeah yeah, very funny. Country?

galactic sector zz9pluralzalpha

8:57 PM

@fbueckert I'm not sure what's so funny?

he might've decided that it's better to get caught from the police in the hospital, once he's recovered, than pass out and risk death on the streets or something

Well that's a joke i think? I mean who would say he was running from the police when he could have just made something out?

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