The Bridge

badp

5:00 PM

Huh

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Steam just hung and crashed on me

badp

If you own a system with others' personal data in it in Italy, you must by law protect it with non-socially-engineerable passwords that change at least once every three months and are at least 8 characters long

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

By law?

badp

Basically.

I mean, there's a list of things you must do so that you can prove, if things go south, that you've done what you should've to keep the data safe

This is one of the things.

Another point says that once used, a password protecting such a system may never be reused by anybody else.

It's a pretty good spot for KeyPass+Dropbox I suppose

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Just use a password manager, or public key cryptography, with 2FA

Speaking of which, I need to setup 2FA for my lastpass account

badp

5:05 PM

Oh, you must also upgrade your applications at least once every 6 months and your system at least once yearly.

Powerlord

@badp Sorry, was at lunch. But yeah, I thought about that already... well for Ravine anyway.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get the little light spots underneath where ammo and health spawn, as they aren't there by default.

badp

uh, TF2 apparently crashed and brought Steam along for the ride

did I manage again to run out of memory with just a browser and TF2?

wtf, Windows

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:18 PM

I wonder if anyone wants to play Multiwinia

Or DEFCON

Ben Brocka

@badp The *oids are free, have fast forward (toggle not hold) and savestates. They were made free "temporarily" after being removed from Android Market, but they never took down the free versions/made them for pay

badp

@BenBrocka Well, for SNES games I've already paid. I'll be checking those out for other platforms

Ben Brocka

I stick with them because the interface is mostly common between all of them. The downside is they're ooooold so A: no new android design and B: not designed with very high DPI assets

They're plenty usable though (as far as soft-button emulators go), the buttons/menus are just ugly

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@BenBrocka Oh yeah, SNESoid (I think that's what its called?) was the one I used.

It wasn't on Play, so it didn't show up in my history

Ben Brocka

yeah, there's SNESoid, Gameboid and some others

I'm not sure why they were pulled down, since other emulators remain, but I'm wondering if it's because of the "oid" branding; I think it's a violation of Android's branding guidelines

You're not supposed to append "droid" or "android" or anything to your app's name (For Android is okay though)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:25 PM

Seems unlikely. If that was the only issue they'd have them up again in no time under another name

badp

They're probably just unmantained

Ben Brocka

I don't know what else it would be though, plenty of other emulators are around

They might have just got spooked or stopped maintaining them before they were pulled so they didn't bother

FPSE on the other hand was so maintained it was annoying...it updated and restarted itself every week or so and had to download it's plugins all over again each time

Fluttershy

Huh... That's an odd bug. Apparently, in Terraria on the Xbox, Hellforges don't actually spawn in hell. <_<

badp

No. No, Twitch. Don't localize.

agent86

@Fluttershy, re: terraria xbox, probably not going to bite :(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:28 PM

@Fluttershy Uh... huh

Ben Brocka

@badp #BlameTwitch

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Where would they be if not in the Underworld layer?

Fluttershy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Also, even if I find a Hellforge, I can't pick it up since I haven't found my meteorite to make a hammer strong enough. x_x

@YiJiang'sEvilClone They are apparently in the layer just before the Underworld. Right before the background changes to the Underworld scene.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I think you can break the bricks which the forge is set on to collect it

Fluttershy

@agent86 Now I'm sad. =(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:29 PM

@Fluttershy That's weird. Hellforges should always spawn in the brick buildings

It does make collecting them a heck of a lot easier if they don't

Underworld is pretty unforgiving

Fluttershy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I know. That's where I was looking. But I went all the way through the underworld on both sides of my spawn, and there was none.

agent86

@Fluttershy :( I have too much to play! also I don't like the lack of dedicated servers. I'd probably play minecraft on my xbox if it had dedicated servers

but noooooo

xbox acts like the internet doesn't exist

"what? a pc? hosting a game? with an xbox? spits out drink we don't do PCs here at Microsoft."

Powerlord

@agent86 Of course not, everyone knows Microsoft uses Macs.

agent86

sage nod

badp

The XBoxes are obviously the triumph of the Microsoft Network, reborn

Fluttershy

5:43 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone That just destroyed the Hellforge. =(

Ben Brocka

yeah I think they removed the ability to pick up hard-to-mine stuff but breaking what it's standing on

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oh, ouch

Sconibulus

but that sounds convenient... why do they hate convenience?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Sconibulus It's a sort of an exploit

Ben Brocka

Yeah, it was an exploit. For a game based around a progression of increasingly good items it was effectively a sequence break

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

5:53 PM

Not that significant of a break, I think. You still need a meteroid pickaxe to actually mine hellstone

SaintWacko

@agent86 Me either

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko =(

agent86

see, if there was a "steam sale" level deal on minecraft PC, I'd probably be there

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@agent86 I guess there was, back when the game was in alpha

Sconibulus

@SaintWacko I realized why we didn't think there was decent mouseover text on whatif... before about 19-20, they were super boring and primarily descriptive

agent86

5:56 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone yeah, someday again I assume there will be

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

So... is anyone interested in the MLP guide/coffee table book? Hard cover, 256 pages, $10

Ben Brocka

@agent86 Not so sure about that, it sells damn fine at it's current price

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@BenBrocka Yeah, I don't see Minecraft's price changing any time soon

Ben Brocka

...though a "cleaner" USD number would be nice. $26.95

Better than the Alpha though, where I think you had to pay...whatever foreign money

I remember it being awkward but it might have just been because I didn't have a paypal

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Paypal does currency conversion, but the exchange rate is pretty terrible

Fluttershy

6:04 PM

gaming.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/34067 Copied Content

agent86

@BenBrocka "someday" for me is something I can wait an indeterminately long time for. I assume 20 years from now it will be cheap :)

Shotgun Ninja

@agent86 Halting Problem?

agent86

@ShotgunNinja the value of a piece of entertainment tends to decay non-linearly with respect to time. I have more games than I have time. Therefore, I just wait for the right point on the value curve to strike. Wooooo math

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Because, well, if someone's getting that book I was wondering if it's possible to have it shipped here through them instead of having to pay Amazon's onerous international shipping fees

agent86

would that be cheaper? I've no idea what the going rate is for mailing something out of the US

(or wherever, y'know)

Shotgun Ninja

6:08 PM

@agent86 lol

Fluttershy

I just realized I'm farming in the Underworld and I completely skipped the Underground Jungle. x_x

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@agent86 Amazon's shipping fee is $10 ($5 per item + $5 per shipment). It should be possible to ship something here for less, if my research is correct.

Ben Brocka

It used to be so easy to miss the jungle

glad they added the overworld jungle, the underground jungle was my favorite biome

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Fluttershy Underground jungle is hard. You can hold off exploring it until you get the best pre hardmode armor

Ben Brocka

eh with a muramasa (I think, the auto-fire sword?) the man-eaters aren't that bad if you're careful

agent86

6:14 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone where are you?

Fluttershy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I mostly want the Ivy Whip to make Underworld farming easier.

Ben Brocka

That's the tripple grappling thing right? It's pretty awesome

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@agent86 Singapore, Asia-Pacific region

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka Yep.

But I seem to be having difficulty acquiring vines.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Fluttershy You can grow your own underground jungle farm for that

agent86

6:20 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone the US postal service says I can ship you a 3 pound package for ~$32. UPS wants $137

Sconibulus

USPS OP

agent86

I guess USPS priority mail is only $24

still, amazon seems to be winning :(

and I don't think that covers customs or any other import taxes or anything, although I'd bet most people fudge it, and at $10 it's unlikely to be a significant contributor to the cost

Sconibulus

wow, really? That got starred?

Powerlord

Gah, I hate doing old style database crap in asp.net

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Sconibulus I can fix that for you

Unionhawk

6:24 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone ROOM OWNER ABUSE

Powerlord

Even worse that it's in VB.NET instead of C#

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Shotgun Ninja

@Powerlord barf

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

So... it basically comes down to either getting it from Amazon now, with a $6 preorder discount but a $10 shipping fee, or wait for it to show up at a local bookstore for goodness knows what price

Oooo, bookdepository.co.uk/… has it for less than that

Only S$18, with free international shipping

Ben Brocka

I see youtube's auto transcripts are as accurate as ever

It's a shame because it would be an amazing feature if it worked even half the time

tiddy

Maybe not ready for primetime, but you can't really be too surprised because that shit is extremely hard

Ben Brocka

6:40 PM

Yeah, it's been at least a couple years though, I'm not sure they're doing much with it anymore

I haven't heard a peep about it in a long time

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

tiddy

Until they are able to workout a hard baseline with a/v quality from uploaded videos, i don't think they'll have enough data to work with

I mean the fact they're even attempting to automate audio streams to US English is impressive enough

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I'm not sure why they even bother. I do recall someone saying YouTube uses facial recognition and lip reading for this, though that seems waaay to advanced

tiddy

yeah

lip reading sounds more like NSA than google

I mean, gee, who would have an interest in auto generating audio streams from silent video of people talking

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

The comment noted they use facial recognition data to improve the audio transcript, which is why the transcript for cartoons and audio only voices are less accurate

tiddy

6:47 PM

Thanks facebook

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Still seems far fetched to me. It seems like a lot of trouble to go to, if it were true, for some less than stellar results

Shotgun Ninja

@YiJiang'sEvilClone That's what they said about OCR...

Optical character recognition

Optical character recognition, usually abbreviated to OCR, is the mechanical or electronic conversion of scanned images of handwritten, typewritten or printed text into machine-encoded text. It is widely used as a form of data entry from some sort of original paper data source, whether documents, sales receipts, mail, or any number of printed records. It is a common method of digitizing printed texts so that they can be electronically searched, stored more compactly, displayed on-line, and used in machine processes such as machine translation, text-to-speech and text mining. OCR is a field ...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@ShotgunNinja OCR is actually pretty accurate, if you know what you're doing

Shotgun Ninja

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Same with lip-reading.

Fluttershy

Found my meteorite! =D

Why would someone star that? O_o

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

6:52 PM

@ShotgunNinja Mmmhmm, not quite. To get accurate OCR you'd need good quality clean scans. Good quality videos are much harder to achieve. You'll need to account for different mouths, angle of the face, and even when you get that right English has so many homophones you have to deal with

tugs

Need a neural network to make the optimal markov chain for speech recognition

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

This is assuming first that the sort of lip tracking and analysis code exists in the first place, which it might

tiddy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone This is the same NSA holding onto literally every communicable piece of information in the country+ that they can so (when) they break modern encryptions they can put together massive mosaics of US citizens if needed in the future.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Fluttershy You can fix it. You have the power.

Fluttershy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone This is true. But I'm not like @badp. I don't abuse my powers.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

6:55 PM

Well I'm bored, so I'm going to abuse my power

Mad Scientist

Just FYI, destarring is not logged. Nobody except SE can find out who is abusing their power there

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Does it not show up on the message history?

Mad Scientist

@YiJiang'sEvilClone No

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Huh, you're right. It really doesn't show up on the message history

Mad Scientist

I've a feature request somewhere on Meta.SO to change that, but that is rather old now

I got a bit annoyed when someone in the C++ Lounge removed every star on the arguments they disagreed with

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

7:01 PM

Stephen Baxter wrote a Doctor Who book? Woah

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Powerlord

@MadScientist Which is why chats should limit the owner list.

SaintWacko

Tesseract OCR is nice

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Link?

Mad Scientist

@Powerlord Hard to know which owner you have to remove if those actions aren't even logged anywhere

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

bookdepository.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Wheel-Ice-Stephen-Baxter/…

The AV club gave it a C

Alastair Reynolds also has an upcoming Doctor Who novel

Sconibulus

I read one of her books once... it was kinda odd

there were crazy AIs running around

Powerlord

7:07 PM

Can I go home now? :(

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Sconibulus He. His Century Rain is one of my absolute favourite piece of science fiction

Sconibulus

Ahh, it was called The Prefect. It was pretty good.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone oh, oops. don't know why I thought she

I read a pretty good scifi recently called Schild's Ladder

Shotgun Ninja

Has anyone here read "Machine Man", by Max Brooks?

I'm reading it now for a science-fiction course I'm taking, and I'd be curious to hear if anyone else has heard of it.

Lazers

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Fluttershy

@Powerlord Yes. Yes you can.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

7:19 PM

Neither the book nor the author, sorry

Sconibulus

Max Brooks was World War Z, right?

I've heard good things about that, but haven't gotten around to reading it

Unionhawk

@Sconibulus I read it in English class. It was pretty good. Above average, for an english class book

Shotgun Ninja

Did I say Max Brooks? I'm sorry, I meant Max Barry.

I get them confused all the time.

Ullallulloo

7:35 PM

@ShotgunNinja That's the nationstates.net guy, right?

Halfwarr

7:54 PM

stupid html look at this jsfiddle.net/GcGTM

Lazers

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xcom-enemy-unknown

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