The Bridge

@kalina Should probably thank you for your clear Hello World baiting question. While it's not even close to a good question, it did give me Yaeger. So I guess it's thanks to you that I'm in first place right now.

kalina

chat hats will be so messy with the size and positioning of some of these hats

ManishEarth

@kalina chapeau sur le chat?

meow

kalina

@LoganM it was an actual question though, I have no interest in the subject matter so I don't know the difference!

ManishEarth

@kalina they look okayish on chat.MSO

kalina

10:06 AM

@ManishEarth even the three hats stacked on top of each other?

ManishEarth

@kalina That's a bit .... over the top

kalina

@ManishEarth literally

it breaks the review queue, if you're not in first place you can't see the avatar of the person above you

ManishEarth

@kalina exactly, pun intended :P

kalina

not that me not being in first place on arqade's review queues is something that happens

ManishEarth

@kalina Yay!

Logan M

10:07 AM

@kalina I didn't downvote it, but I think it falls in the realm of "you should probably Google this first". In any case, you got your hat, which I guess is what you really wanted.

ManishEarth

You can be all sadistic and hide the hats of those with more reviews than you

kalina

@LoganM it is, but I have a major affliction to having negatively voted questions

and "you should google that" is not an acceptable response on SE, it breaks the mission statement

Logan M

@kalina Sorry about that, and I don't agree with the downvotes btw, but I do understand why some users would cast them.

Arperum

review hats are now cut off to a max height above the avatar as far as I see.

kalina

@LoganM I'm not taking it personally, I could just delete my anime&manga account and recreate it to hide the downvoted question

ManishEarth

10:09 AM

@kalina ...why?

Arperum

@kalina Is there any site less then 30 days old for the old hat hat?

kalina

@ManishEarth it's my only negatively voted content on the entire SE network

Logan M

FWIW my hello world question is pretty silly too.

ManishEarth

@kalina I have tons.

kalina

@Arperum no, the only sites that would work are currently pending launch

ManishEarth

10:10 AM

> I can feasibly find an advisor whose name is after mine

@LoganM pahahaha

kalina

@ManishEarth I don't know, I just don't like negative numbers associated with stuff I've posted

any of the regulars here will confirm that I have a habit of deleting things the moment they become negatively voted

ManishEarth

@kalina I -1 that chat message. You now have negatie numbers associated with stuff you've posted.

Wandang

wtf why is this a good question and answer? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/146413/…

@ManishEarth @kalina ...

kalina

@Wandang elaborate

Wandang

it is the same like the megaman question

that was discussed yesterday

ManishEarth

10:11 AM

@Wandang It's not too listy because I restricted it to a handful of units. Though kalina went and addressed them all

Wandang

to me at least

ManishEarth

Surprisingly, that question isn't answered anywhere else on the Net

Wandang

and ofc you get a +1 immediately from the guys from the chat. i get the feeling this usergroup is like the wikipedia elite

pushing themselfs and close minded

:S

ManishEarth

@Wandang Actually I didn't. It got posted in chat and only got an upvote after/near when kalina answered.

Martin Sojka

@Wandang Not from me. Chat members get no special treatment.

Hell, my mother would get no special treatment. I don't do favourites.

FEichinger

10:16 AM

@Wandang You have not presented any argument except for "it kinda looks like something you discussed yesterday", so I don't see why you would say that.

kalina

@Wandang you are misunderstanding the issue

Wandang

@FEichinger the question is not more specific then the megaman one. tell me the best weapons for each lvl vs tell me all the counteres of the game

kalina

the issue is with lists with no maximum size

that is a list that has an actual limit

and therefore there is no issue

Wandang

@kalina dont get it. what's your point

FEichinger

@Wandang That was never the problem with the Megaman question. This is a simple gameplay guide - something we should do more of than less.

Wandang

10:17 AM

@kalina that it is a question for more then 1 fixed game?

kalina

Lists with no maximum size require constant updating, and historically, people will update a list for a short period of time and then get bored

meaning the content gets out of date

AOE3 will not get any more units without expansions, and expansions will likely have their own tag

therefore, that answer is complete and will remain complete forever

Wandang

@kalina so community wikis dont work? or are you not able to force a change to a community wiki and expand the answer yourself

kalina

community wikis are awful

anybody can edit content anyway

Wandang

i thought thats what community wikis are for

kalina

the point is, they don't

lists of potentially infinite size do not make good answers

lists of an achievable limited size are fine

Lazers

10:20 AM

0

Q: Is there anyway to get controller support for GTA San Andreas on PC

I've come back to this problem myself several times and I've tried using some programs that can map the buttons of my gamepad to keys but with these I've always run into the same problem of getting into a vehicle and the different control scheme messing everything up, has anyone else come up with...

gta-san-andreas

kalina

@Wandang also, we're not an elitist community

many people in here will openly berate others in here for posting crap

the reason our content is generally better than the other stuff on the site is because we know all of the rules

that doesn't stop somebody else from posting a brilliant question or answer

ManishEarth

@Wandang But the counters are pretty well known (not to me, but to most) and fixed and the game is designed to have stark counters, instead of a "best" weapon which is an opinionated thing.

FEichinger

@kalina To be fair, we also make most of the rules.

kalina

@FEichinger nah the people in the bridge only make up about half of the people who are actively vocal on meta

ManishEarth

It's objectively answerable and won't need updating unless kalina decides to include the Asian expansion and some other special units.

Arperum

10:22 AM

@FEichinger The thing is that most who are active on the site end up coming to the bridge, and are thus seen as the "elistist few" who keep upvoting themself.

Wandang

@ManishEarth counter is not factual as well

ManishEarth

@Wandang why not?

Wandang

@ManishEarth at least in dota it is not

ManishEarth

DOTA is different

kalina

@Wandang not every game is dota2

ManishEarth

10:24 AM

DOTA's counters require some skill and familiarity with how to counter

Here, there are attack bonuses that can be gleaned from the unit details

Wandang

@kalina not?^^ what i mean is that counter are made from experience values in most games

if its not schnick schnack schnuck

kalina

@Wandang nope, not even most

the only reason the counters are so dynamic in mobas is because the games are constantly being rebalanced and the skill level of the players involved varies wildly

FEichinger

@Wandang That was very much the case for a lot of games, because of the simplicity of designing around that.

ManishEarth

@Wandang If you take 5 strelets and one Hussar and pit them against each other, the Hussar will win, even if the Hussar is micro'd terribly

Not all the counters are so stark, but the attack bonuses usually clear it up.

Wandang

@kalina if you take rts like c&c you will find different strats against each other

@kalina is is no "i need to build this or i lose against that"

it is more complex

kalina

10:26 AM

@Wandang and yet against the AI - a consistent playing field - you will find that certain units are better against others

Lazers

0

Q: Steam Os/Steambox can run Windows games?

So before asking this here I did some research and I found some answers but I have no idea what's right. The official page of Steam box says: You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. But then I read posts of some people for example: http://www.tomsguide.com/us...

steam linux windows

Wandang

you can build more then 1 strat against another in most rts

kalina

for example, grenadiers are good against all other infantry

and they're ALWAYS good against all other infantry

Arperum

AoE and most strategy games have a system of rock-paper-scissors. Where units have a distinct bonus damage vs a unit type and lowered damage vs other type of units.

kalina

but special ground units (tanya, etc) is good against everything except armours

Wandang

10:27 AM

@Lazers thats off topic

@Lazers should be superuser

kalina

@Wandang wrong

Wandang

...

FEichinger

I'm fairly certain SU would close this as off-topic as well.

Wandang

its purely os and hardware related

ManishEarth

@Arperum /cc @Wandang Exactly. Aside from being able to click things really fast and the usual strategy, in-battle strategy is by micromanaging units and making them counter properly

Wandang

10:29 AM

i have @Arperum on ignore so i dont get what he might have written

kalina

@Wandang it's not asking to emulate

it's asking about the technology licensed from the nvidia shield

Wandang

@kalina sounds to me like "does software x run on system y"

Arperum

@Lazers Is steambox released already?

FEichinger

@kalina Well, no, that happens to be the answer.

kalina

@Wandang nope, it's an actual feature

Wandang

10:30 AM

@wizliz will test it at home

kalina

at the moment it's a bit speculative though I would say

so if we're going to close it we could close it for that reason

FEichinger

The OS download is available, if I'm not mistaken.

Wandang

@FEichinger y the beta

kalina

@FEichinger yeah but the streaming tech isn't in it yet

Wandang

@FEichinger which requieres nvidia graphic card and cannot be installed as a dual system next to windows

kalina

10:32 AM

so it's an announced feature that isn't in the current build

Wandang

@FEichinger pretty shitty. rather install debian and proprietary driver

kalina

@Wandang wrong, Valve required that Nvidia made it work with any graphics card

FEichinger

@kalina Then the current state of the OS does not support it, that's the answer. And the plan for the future, as a side note, is the streaming.

Wandang

@kalina what is wrong about my statement. it needs nvidia for now and later will be amd as well

heise.de is my source

kalina

@Wandang since the feature isn't in the current build

there is no "for now"

and as such, you're wrong

FEichinger

10:35 AM

@kalina @Wandang You're talking about two different things.

kalina

@FEichinger well yes, I'm talking about being right and he's talking about being wrong

FEichinger

@kalina No, you're talking about the streaming feature he's talking about the OS itself. The current build of the OS is nVidia-cards only (probably because nVidia are the only ones to have bothered making proper drivers to package with it).

kalina

interesting

hang on, does that mean I was wrong?

FEichinger

Not surprising, though. The AMD/ATI drivers are notoriously horrible, and Intel graphics are Why on Earth are you even trying to game on this thing?!

Wandang

@kalina yes. but ofc you are not elitist

@kalina and stubborn

FEichinger

10:38 AM

@kalina No, you were talking about something else.

kalina

@Wandang I will accept stubborn, I am not elitist though

Kevin van der Velden

Wait, there's some hats in chat?

FEichinger

@Wandang Yes, you're most certainly making friends by calling people "elitist" and "stubborn" repeatedly.

kalina

@KevinvanderVelden interesting

Kevin van der Velden

I HAVE A CHAT HAT

kalina

10:39 AM

yes you do

Wandang

@FEichinger it works? i am glad

5pike

The hat borked my chat!

kalina

@FEichinger only people who play WoW or MOBAs go around calling people elitist

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden YOU BROKE CHAT.

Kevin van der Velden

I thought that was status-declined?

kalina

10:39 AM

it's par for the course for them

it's why everybody hates people who play those games

Wandang

chat is broken

for me

5pike

kalina

@Wandang try refreshing

5pike

HAT BORKES CHAT!!

Wandang

omg

owl on @5pike

Arperum

10:40 AM

@5pike refresh and it unborks.

Wandang

@kalina dont call it moba

5pike

@Arperum yeah

FEichinger

@5pike This is actually the case. My ATI cards have all survived much longer than their nVidia counterpart.

kalina

@Wandang that is the name of the genre and is the correct way to address that genre of games

Blem

@5pike what is this about?

Kevin van der Velden

10:40 AM

@Wandang why not, don't you like the name Multiplayer Online Battle Arena?

5pike

@FEichinger I never hat an ATI card, only NVIDIA. Mine never overheated.

Wandang

@KevinvanderVelden it is utter garbage

@KevinvanderVelden makes no sense

FEichinger

@5pike It's not so much overheating as a generally shorter lifespan.

5pike

@Blem An old joke - ATI has no drivers and NVIDIA overheats constantly.

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina also "acceptable" are Action Real Time Strategy and hero brawler.

Wandang

10:41 AM

@KevinvanderVelden multi and online are generic. nearly every game has that today. battle arena could be anything, css, wow, c&c

Martin Sojka

@Wandang So does RTS for tactic games. It's just a name.

kalina

@KevinvanderVelden I will stick with MOBA

Wandang

@KevinvanderVelden arts is much better, action real time strategy...

FEichinger

@kalina ... only because it annoys people. :P

kalina

@FEichinger nope, that's what I've always known them as

I'm not going to change what I do when what I'm currently doing isn't wrong

Wandang

10:43 AM

@kalina stubborn as hell :P

@FEichinger linux runs great with nvidia drivers

@FEichinger ati was a horror

kalina

my linux machine has an ati card and it works fine

Wandang

lucky you :/

5pike

@Wandang I think it's a griffon or eagle

Lazers

0

Q: Create a race on the LS-airport

I want to make a race, which starts on the airport, where you can make stunnign stunts over airplanes or what ever. But everytime I'll add a checkpoint on the airport area, I can't place it on the area. Why? There are several races by R* on the airport, so why I can't create one there? Please n...

gta-online

Wandang

@people need something to eat. getting some fresh salad

and frikadelle

apparently it is called Frikadeller in english

Blem

10:46 AM

where are you from @Wandang?

Wandang

@Blem germany

Frikadeller and currywurst are extremely popular here

5pike

@Wandang dict.cc tells me, that you can also translate it with "faggot"

Wandang

curry sausage?

@5pike wow thats rather offending

Blem

I was just wondering because todays menu at work is "Frikadeller og lun kartoffelsalat, med porre, græskarkerner, radisser, balsamico, grov sennep"

5pike

@Wandang Seems to be old british english.. I don't know.

Wandang

10:48 AM

@5pike i was about to flag you but you are right Oo

so i love to eat faggots

3

@Blem i can read that fine

@Blem dansk?

Blem

yes

Wandang

@Blem we love the dansk ppl :)

FEichinger

Thank you, chat, I have now run out of stars for today.

Kevin van der Velden

Are we back at the cannibalism?

Wandang

@Blem but kartoffelsalat with porre? why :/ double the kartoffel

Arperum

10:49 AM

@FEichinger That's because your hat is in your eyes, you just star blindly.

FEichinger

@Arperum Well played.

Kevin van der Velden

@FEichinger you could move your hat you know =p

FEichinger

I did move it.

The current placement is intentional.

Wandang

@FEichinger it looks just fine, rather faboulus

Kevin van der Velden

Afk, getting some food? :)

Arperum

10:50 AM

I want the Old Hat hat :( but it's impossible to get it now :(

Or at least some better looking hat then the two I have unlocked.

Mad Scientist

@Arperum I got something like 20 of them, there might still be a beta site young enough to register and get the hat

5pike

Free Flag

Lazers

0

Q: How do I make an X potion?

Effect: They told me not to use this potion How to make: They also don't tell me how to make it Can you tell me how to make it?

the-gold-factory

FEichinger

@MadScientist Nope.

Arperum

@FEichinger Wouldn't the portuguese SO work?

FEichinger

10:57 AM

@Arperum private beta.

Arperum

@FEichinger Ah.

@5pike I am confused. Who is going to shut me down? What will be shut down?

5pike

@Arperum Seems this user is pretty confused.

Arperum

@5pike Yea, and the comment on it breaks the layout.

@5pike Also: go back to that question and flag the other answer of him to.

5pike

@Arperum Already done

qwertyk31

@Lazers duplicate

5pike

11:07 AM

@qwertyk31 Is it?

Arperum

@qwertyk31 From what question?

5pike

It's not about candy box 2

qwertyk31

@5pike I have seen it before

@5pike oh

Arperum

@qwertyk31 There are more then one game with an X-potion.

5pike

I think you mean the one that's about candy box 2

qwertyk31

11:08 AM

should have checked the tags

5pike

Everyone jumps the gun at some point.

Arperum

@qwertyk31 Always.

Private Pansy

Arperum

@PrivatePansy Good one.

Lazers

0

Q: What is invisible?

It says on the description for the invisibility potion: Effect: Makes you invisible, and allows you to see invisible objects Where are there invisible objects to see? I'ver tried in all the quests I have at the moment and found nothing.

the-gold-factory

5pike

11:23 AM

Today I learned that something like a soup-maker exists

Private Pansy

I wonder if that Steam OS question should have the Steam tag in addition to steam-os

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike so... it's a water heater and a stirrer?

@PrivatePansy what steam os question?

5pike

@KevinvanderVelden Seems like it. And it costs about 100 €...

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike Of course it is

I'm just sticking to a pot and a spoon for now...

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Nah. It's about cross-platform play between steam-os windows. That's all the tags it needs.

linux is a bad tag anyway, but I don't have time to get into that right now.

Private Pansy

11:27 AM

Ah true, I'll remove that tag

5pike

@KevinvanderVelden Would also be much more time effective.

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike jeah, there's only so much electricity an appliance can draw before melting your walls down.

Arperum

@5pike And easier to clean I assume. But it won't look as fancy

Lazers

1

Q: How other players can play my maps?

I created now some different maps with the editor on gta online. Now I want to let other players play and rate my maps. But how can I achieve, that other players play my maps? The only way I can let other players play my maps is, when I host a race with my own map and search for players. But how...

gta-online

qwertyk31

@FEichinger Why is it a bad tag the questions seem ok

boo

11:36 AM

2

Kevin van der Velden

@boo hmmm fire

Arperum

@boo Burn it.

ManishEarth

@Arperum I'm sorry, but that hat in 16px mode reminds me of a certain ... bear ... that reddit is infatuated with

Arperum

@qwertyk31 Because it is not relevant to the question (in this case), and it's horribly broad.

@ManishEarth Then get me a better one. I have a shortage of hats.

boo

Gold Factory has a weird ending

ManishEarth

11:39 AM

@Arperum get one more star, and you have a hat

boo

@ManishEarth How many stars for a hat?

Arperum

@ManishEarth You traded that one with me before, so now it's just waiting.

5pike

@boo link please. All I find are slot games...

ManishEarth

@boo two chat stars+10 messages. I need one more

boo

@5pike wat?

ManishEarth

11:39 AM

There's also one for 5 chat stars

kalina

Zzzzzz

5pike

@boo Link to gold factory please.

boo

@ManishEarth On a single message

kalina

No there isn't

boo

@5pike gamehelp16.github.io/thegoldfactory

kalina

11:40 AM

Oh

I need a message with 5 stars

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina commence the star baiting?

boo

Also I think the ending is bugged

@kalina You are queen of starbait, this should not be hard

ManishEarth

oops @kalina is correct

5pike

@boo Thank you

kalina

I like penis. It is my favourite thing.

boo

11:41 AM

@kalina Denied

ManishEarth

I wonder what happens if we all wear johnny-three hats so that chat becomes a neverending tower of hats

boo

Is there a hat for getting flagged in chat?

kalina

DO NOT DENY ME

5pike

@kalina To obvious. A bit more subtlety please.

kalina

I'm wet

ManishEarth

11:41 AM

@kalina Ought I link to that in the DMZ?

kalina

No

ManishEarth

heh

Kevin van der Velden

Luckily @FEichinger has already spend all his stars for today.

kalina

Simon will be all over me for the rest of the day

boo

@kalina Talk about the magnitude of your lunch (in inches), and how much of it you intend (or otherwise) to distribute over yourself.

5

kalina

11:43 AM

In covered in cheese

I missed my mouth

So much cake

tombull89

O.o

ManishEarth

Let's all star @boo to spite kalina!

2

kalina

7 inches is best

5pike

@ManishEarth All the spite

Kevin van der Velden

@boo hmm should I star this and give him a hat?

kalina

11:44 AM

This is so hard

ManishEarth

@KevinvanderVelden yes please

boo

@KevinvanderVelden I'm willing to negotiate terms

@ManishEarth Stars are made of spite and passive aggression

Kevin van der Velden

Fine, hats away!

ManishEarth

@boo exactly

kalina

I'm hungry for meat

Vegetarianism is hard

Somebody is eating bacon

boo

11:47 AM

@KevinvanderVelden Disgusting apostrophe use.

Kevin van der Velden

@boo bleagh, I don't even notice it -_-

tombull89

I don't know if I should be disappointed or amused that Kalina isn't getting any stars.

Kevin van der Velden

@tombull89 Amused, watching @kalina squirm is great

boo

@tombull89 Amused. Definitely amused.

ManishEarth

@tombull89 Amused. Even I'm getting more stars than her :P

kalina

11:48 AM

I'm not squirming

ManishEarth

Schadenfreude is the best

tombull89

What happens now that the 2 minute self-delete is up? There's nothing to stop them being starred...

ManishEarth

@kalina There is the possibility that everyone just put you on ignore. And if that isn't the case, @Everyone, it sure could be. Just think of all the peace and quiet

kalina

...

In not even baiting anymore

ManishEarth

Sure.

kalina

11:49 AM

Somebody is actually eating a huge bacon baguette

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina hmmm bacon

I want bacon now :(

kalina

And for some reason it's made me super hungry

Dammit

I'm going to go get a footlong

From subway

Because nom

Martin Sojka

@kalina And cheese.

kalina

Yay cheese

Toasted too, obviously

Lazers

0

Q: How do I get cookies?

Many potion recipes include cookies as an ingredient, but I have progressed quite far in the game but not found out where they come from. Where do I get cookies?

the-gold-factory

boo

11:57 AM

@kalina Try not to get any on yourself, it's sticky

kalina

I don't think I'll get any on me

Not without dribbling it down me

boo

@kalina It can often spurt out at unexpected moments

Depending on how you apply pressure

Braiam

@kalina cheesecake is a lie

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