The Bridge

@Unionhawk I take no responsibility for the actions of others!

@Sterno Instigation to your face is a serious crime.

@Arperum being on-topic is off-topic on reddit

@badp Your FACE is a serious instigation to a serious crime of seriousness of... I'm lost. What are we talking about?

@Sterno Your face.

Are those wrinkles?

2:02 PM

@badp are you available to merge some tags for me/us?

@kalina Is there a list I can glance at before I commit to an answer?

Aaand, I'm done. The reddit is strong with that thread.

@badp at the moment it's osx-lion merged into osx

@badp later it will also include multiple-monitors merged into monitors - but both tags need cleaning first

@badp this is based off the fire based action I am instigating in this question, which I'd like your input on as well if you haven't already:

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Q: It's time for burnination!

A continuation of The Great Arqade Cleanup of 2012. Call this the 2013 edition if you wish. We've still got some horrible tags. I require upvotes as authorisation of removing them. This post is primarily focussed on tags to delete - rather than tags to fix. A lot of our tags are still in pretty...

2:04 PM

@kalina I'm not entirely convinced but there you have it.

Q: Multiple Lava Pumps In The Nether

It's been so long since you've said "there you have it" to me

Lazers

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I have setup a 4 lava pumps to pump out lava in the nether to a tank in the overworld. Unfortunatley only one pump is working despite having the exact same setups. Is there a limit to how many pumps you can have in one chunk? I have provided a screenshot of my setup. As you can probably (or not)...

minecraft minecraft-feed-the-beast

It evolves from Inkay starting at level 30 while the 3DS is held upside-down.

@BenBrocka CRAFTY BASTARDS!!!

@BenBrocka wut

2:09 PM

So, this happened a few minutes ago

Seriously, nearly everytime I learn something new about this game I feel like I should get it

Coworker 1: Do either of you see any problem with me doing a code push to UAT and PROD at 4:30 today?
Me: I don't.
Coworker 2: There is a very small probability that your actions will cause the destruction of the entire universe, but other than that I don't see any problem.
Me: I thought we fixed the universe destruction bug a few weeks ago.
Coworker 1: As usual, I'll do my best to implode the entire project
Coworker 2: Don't worry too much. It is a very, very, very, very, very small probablility.

(and also a 3DS but meh)

@Powerlord Sounds like you have great coworkers.

@BenBrocka ...

2:10 PM

@Powerlord this seems reasonable.

@BenBrocka Damn, Dark/Psychic only has two weaknesses. One of which is 4x, but still.

@OrigamiRobot Yeah but it's bug. Not the biggest threat unless theyhave Heracross or...yeah just Heracross

Unless scizor or Pincir finally learned a good Bug type move

@Arperum Think I fixed the bug

Apparently even friends who don't have Pokemon X/Y show up in your friend safari thing once you have it unlocked.

Q: How to handle trolling and abuse in chat?

Get the drama before it gets deleted!

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Thank you for reading my question. I am a new user, and a casual one at that. To make a long story short, I joined chat to thank a helpful user, and it ended up with me discovering the community here is extremely vicious, with moderators (or users with ban priviledges?) being extremely hateful. ...

support chat moderators trolling reporting

cc @Sterno

2:15 PM

@fbueckert yesssssssssssssssss

@Powerlord yeah it's based on their friend code not their trainer I think

@Arperum error log?

I got smacked away a couple times, resulting in this.

@Arperum Try now

2:16 PM

Aww. All the comments on the question got deleted.

@fbueckert Wow, reading the chat transcript, that room is full of dicks.

@Sterno I never bothered; the tone of the question made it sound like nothing he did was wrong.

That hits the warning bells.

@fredley Aside from the still too large collision boxes I have no problems to report right now. both my earlier problems look like they are fixed.

And...deleted.

So don't close it if you have it open.

Preorder numbers seem to indicate Xbox One is riding hard on the COD bro market

2:20 PM

@fredley hit: (737) 20 vs. 19 dammit!

tldr PS4 beating Xbox one handily in all cross platform titles...except COD

@fbueckert That drama was boring.

@OrigamiRobot It was dramatic enough to get deleted.

That doesn't mean it was dramatic

I really wish Oracle's older web app server would allow me to edit a DataSource to point it at a different connection pool.

2:21 PM

@OrigamiRobot @Sterno's happy with his daily drama quota fulfilled.

@fbueckert Thanks for linking it before it went away. The drama was delicious.

Pfft, I doubt that was enough to fill his quota

@Sterno You're welcome. Thought you might like that.

@OrigamiRobot I'm never full on drama.

Although, there's no winners whatsoever on that.

user15026

2:22 PM

I am sad I just missed it

@AshleyNunn It was boring.

@AshleyNunn Why?

@OrigamiRobot is boring.

@Sterno I agree.

user15026

I dunno. Just because.

2:24 PM

Dec 12 '12 at 21:26, by OrigamiRobot

@StrixVaria I am very boring.

Also, I got pictures of the kitten I'm getting! But I can't post them until I get home.

@OrigamiRobot See? By agreeing with me, you made this conversation boring, too. You're the worst.

user15026

@fbueckert Yay photos! Boo having to wait to see them

Oct 1 at 15:26, by OrigamiRobot

I am useless.

wat

2:27 PM

@fredley TVTROPES WARNING JESUS

@fredley Requiem for a dream. One of the films you only watch once, alone.

@tombull89 I've watched it twice

@fredley tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/…

@fredley You are not normal.

user15026

@tombull89 I watched half of it with someone I dated before I had to turn it off

2:30 PM

Since it was originally a novel, it's under Literature

@tombull89 It was several years in between viewings. I'd forgotten how depressing it was.

@fredley we watched part of it in 6th form. The rest of the year was spent screaming "ASS TO ASS" at each other.

Q: Cleanup 2013: It's time for meaningful and consistent tag wikis

Apparently, somebody can read a few thousand words in a second

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We've recently instigated a discussion about cleaning up tags, following on from last year's tag cleanup. You can see it here. While there is more to Arqade than just the tags we have, let's stick on that topic for a while longer. One of the first comments on the above discussion was: While ...

discussion tag-wiki

@tombull89 Mature.

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and then decide that they don't want us to have a community agreed format for tag wikis

2:32 PM

@fredley we were sub-18 years

if that somebody is in chat, grow up.

@kalina I stay away from tag excerpts entirely.

Note: I haven't touched either of your meta questions today.

@kalina I condensed it into a minute and upvoted. Is that OK? :P

it's fine, you don't have to take part. Even you, as somebody who stays away from tag excerpts can agree it's a good thing for us to have a community agreed format for these

Yay! Programming lectures.

user15026

2:33 PM

@kalina It is entirely possible to read that quickly - it isn't actually a few thousand words, for one, and if you know about tag wikis and the site's info for them, you can skip parts of it, and people might disagree.

because it's a good idea

And I didn't bring my laptop, so I can't do other things.

@RonanForman aah, that was the best thing about programming lectures, you could do the lab work during it!

@kalina minecraft.gamepedia.com/Cake

Q: Cleanup 2013: It's time for meaningful and consistent tag wikis

I don't like getting my laptop out, it's rather large and the desks are really small.

Sepia Lazers

2:37 PM

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We've recently instigated a discussion about cleaning up tags, following on from last year's tag cleanup. You can see it here. While there is more to Arqade than just the tags we have, let's stick on that topic for a while longer. One of the first comments on the above discussion was: While ...

discussion tag-wiki

Gamepedia?

@OrigamiRobot You beat me to it. I was going to edit it into her post.

@tombull89 Curse wikis.

@FEichinger ah thought it looked similar

@tombull89 Appropriately, I also curse Curse.

And I see, @kalina is having fun on meta again. :P

2:43 PM

Oh snap, this is a good sign.

My boss from a previous company just sent me a message that he just gave me a reference, and that "they seem excited"

they meaning the people I'm hoping hire me

user15026

@Wipqozn Ooooh, that is a good sign :)

Now I need to return to making breakfast.

@Wipqozn Breakfast? At noon?

That's brunch.

@FEichinger I'm being productive on meta. Everything is completely constructive

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

2:45 PM

@Wipqozn Excited? That is impressive.

@kalina Well, you're getting fire involved and you're talking about cake (damn you, you made me remember angel cake ...) again. I call that "fun" ...

user15026

@SaintWacko Good morning :)

user15026

@fbueckert Breakfast is first meal of the day. No matter what. (Mine has been at like 2:30 pm for the past few days....)

@AshleyNunn This is very sound logic.

And is exactly what I would say.

@FEichinger you should cast votes detailing how you feel about each proposed action.

user15026

2:49 PM

@fbueckert Not sure if that is a compliment or not

Also, this isn't the last meta post I'm starting today. I'm still in the process of writing one regarding the faq tag.

user15026

:P

And the multiplayer tag

@AshleyNunn Ouch! You wound me!

@AshleyNunn sure - it looks like a lot of work to redo all the tag wikis, one of the goals of that post though is to lay the foundations that anybody could do them and they'd all look the same and meet a minimum consistent level of quality

2:50 PM

@kalina I have just done that very thing. Stop telling me what to do!

I'm also hoping that once a format is agreed by the community, it can be one of the first posts suggested to be tagged faq on meta

as in "This is what we request in all tag wikis from now on"

user15026

@kalina Not a bad plan

user15026

@fbueckert offers bandaids

I'm not denying it's a big job, ignoring it because of this reason is really bad though

(I'm not implying you were ignoring it)

user15026

@kalina Oh, no, I am not saying it shouldn't be done, I was more just remarking on the giantness of the task

2:51 PM

Oh, I repcapped on meta

I'm fine with giant tasks

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Hurray?

user15026

@kalina Shiny. I find them overwhelming, myself, but am happy to see other people taking up the task.

We also don't need to change all the existing wikis if we make new ones with a consistent format then at least we're not adding to the problem.

@kalina will not make a joke about this now

2:53 PM

@RonanForman even if we did this and reformatted the first "5 or so pages" as per the the suggestions so far, that's still a huge difference

@AshleyNunn These will help, thanks.

the rest can be done as and when

Also by agreeing a way we want them presented, we'll probably end up enticing some of our lower rep users to submit tag wiki edit suggestions

user15026

@kalina Thereby getting more of the work done. :)

If they fail, video games will be that much closer to extinction

lol journalism

since they'll have guidelines to work from, which they don't currently

user15026

2:55 PM

@BenBrocka GLOOOM AND DOOOOOM

THE INTERNET: CHILDISH FAD OR CHILDISH FRAUD. THE NYT REPORTS

user15026

YOU KNOW NONE OF US PLAY VIDEO GAMES

user15026

ADMIT IT

@kalina - I am fine with your plan. There's no problem with setting things up so that the site gets cleaned up in the long term.

This isn't even the controversial meta post yet - later I'm going to ask you to suggestion meta questions to tag as faq

Like choosing the question that forms community consensus on identify-this-game

2:56 PM

Granny sues over losing $28,000 virtual item, loses

user15026

@kalina Oh, you really don't pull any punches ;)

@kalina How dare you ask for us to put our most important information together and agreeing on what is said information!

@RonanForman Can you blame them? I'm so fancy.

@kalina The final one from @agent86 that we voted on.

@BenBrocka 4 pages of this?

2:57 PM

@JasonBerkan later! :p

user15026

@Wipqozn You really are :P

> Immersive games like Battlefield, on the other hand, require years of intricate work by hundreds of software engineers and artists.

Uh-huh. Right.

@5pike It's not journalism if it's not long

user15026

@fbueckert Oh man.

@Wipqozn That was weird, for some reason I read that in your voice, I've probably heard you say something similar before.

2:57 PM

Because that's how that works.

@RonanForman I say it a lot.

@BenBrocka Anyone with half a brain that reads the line you quoted will immediately stop reading.

> Microsoft Xbox and Sony PlayStation consoles have wilted 40 percent in the last two years.

@FEichinger Because shades of grim requires hundreds of artists.

@fbueckert Referring to her as "Granny" is ageist!

2:58 PM

Don't they have any proofreaders?

Maybe because they're, what, 7 years old now?

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Something like that, possibly older

@OrigamiRobot nevermind the upcoming consoles we've known were coming for years

Yeah, about 7

user15026

Unless they mean all of them in general, but that is a weirdly phrased sentence

7 for 360, 6 for PS3 IIRC

3:00 PM

@5pike They probably don't hire those young types and their TV video game cassette tapes

Why is this person so obsessed with Battlefield?

It reminds me of when TV news thinks COD is the only game in the world

Q: Make a generic "Can I activate my retail CD key of [GAME] on Steam?"

@BenBrocka Yeah, probably not, but they really should. Hell, it can't be that hard to get a young journalist that's into video games.

Sepia Lazers

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Steam has this lovely Knowledge Base article that lists the CD-Keys they accept from retail copies: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-WUSF-3601 I suggest that we make a generic question for these types of questions and just mark others as duplicates. We have quite a few.

discussion

3:02 PM

Where most of the money is going with the $2000 PS4.

@5pike There are certain topics journalists seem physically incapable of covering. Technology, video games and what type of gun someone used among them

user15026

@fbueckert That is messed up expensive.

user15026

@BenBrocka Yeah, that just about covers it

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@AshleyNunn And most of it is the crazy amount of import taxes.

3:03 PM

@AshleyNunn Brazil has insane import taxes. Though Xbox One is somehow 50% cheaper and no one knows why

@BenBrocka I can identify a couple of those guns. And I suck at that.

user15026

@BenBrocka That is kinda fishy and strange

@Ben The thing I find weird is on the news when the read names of things they say it weird. Even if the words are common words, like Angry Birds.

@OrigamiRobot I like that one better for the airsoft rifle

3:04 PM

They can say 'angry' and 'birds' just fine, but 'angry birds' is a real struggle.

@RonanForman yeah it's always weird when they struggle with proper nouns like they can't believe what's on their teleprompter

@RonanForman ANGRY birds

They can say popular film nouns and things, but when they try to say ironman everything goes to hell.

user15026

@BenBrocka Yes. It feels like their brains just fizzle in a case of "those words don't go together"

Tonight at 7: Who are these birds, and why are they angry?

3:06 PM

@BenBrocka (US only): and how will this affect the next election

> Which is how it came to pass that a bunch of guys in Sweden whose knowledge of the American military comes from watching “Saving Private Ryan” and “Platoon” is now making EA’s only contemporary military shooter. Being peaceniks might even give them an edge. War is such a foreign concept here that they must reimagine it.

@origami it's more: "the popular mobile game ... Angry ... Biiiiirrdss.. Has become the first...."

user15026

@BenBrocka facedesk

The dreadful irony

@BenBrocka wat

3:07 PM

> DICE is in the middle of Stockholm. In July, ferries were making the rounds of nearby islands, delivering Swedes to vacation cottages for a chance to revel in the all-too-brief warmth. It was a little annoying, actually. There was a game to be finished, but people were on holiday.

journalism

Excuse me while I stream-of-consciously insert minute details of day-to-day life for no reason in the middle of a 4 page essay

@BenBrocka It's not even irony. It would be irony if Sweden were the country they think it is.

Oh yeah. Are they thinking of Switzerland?

@OrigamiRobot It's irony to be mocking someone they assume to be ignorant while writing an article about something they so clearly don't understand

@BenBrocka Oh I thought you were going with the other irony.

The irony that Switzerland, which they are thinking of, has some of the highest gun ownership rates and least strict gun controls laws.

Tim Stone

@BenBrocka It's probably a side-effect of the author apparently being a manic Harry Potter

3:11 PM

@TimStone oh wow

And basically everyone has military training.

@TimStone Einstein/Harry Potter love child

user15026

@TimStone Oh, that hair. >.<

Tim Stone

He also appears to be a technology business reporter, which I guess the NYT mistakenly believes qualifies him to write such in-depth commentary on game development.

Kind of like a small business getting the person who knows how to turn on the computer to design their website.

user15026

@TimStone Sad, but true.

3:16 PM

@Arperum collision radius decreased

@BenBrocka re: journalism: over the years, I've come to realize that journalists are wrong about everything I have significant knowledge of.

This leads me to the conclusion that they are wrong about everything, I just don't know enough about other domains to catch the errors there.

I have the opposite problem, because I study computer science I keep being asked to hook peoples laptops up to peoples TVs.

@RonanForman This happens with everyone doing anything related to computers.

user15026

@ToxicFrog This makes more sense than I want it to :P

@RonanForman I found that "what OS is it running? oh, sorry, I only know Linux" works pretty well as a countermeasure.

3:17 PM

"what's that? You program? Maybe you can solve this problem with my computer!"

@ToxicFrog 100 times this. Every time I have personal knowledge of a story that makes it into the paper, I'm appalled at how wrong the story is.

Dispite the fact it's just, you see that wire there? Plug it in.

"MY COMPUTER HAS THIS MESSAGE SAYING "YOU HAVE 100 VIRUES BUY ME NOW" WHAT DO I DO?!"

(if it is running Linux, "oh, sorry, I only know Arch Linux")

(anyone using Arch isn't going to be asking me for help in the first place)

@ToxicFrog Yeah, that's depressingly true

user15026

3:18 PM

@ToxicFrog Also, my internet is still working and the router hasn't fallen off the wall yet!

@AshleyNunn sw33t

your router is wall-mounted?

@BenBrocka She uses fly paper.

@OrigamiRobot Don't be silly. She has @ToxicFrog standing there holding it all day.

@Wipqozn That's what I meant. Fly Paper is a pet name.

3:20 PM

@Wipqozn The fact that it uses the same skillset is helpful, but beside the point.

Ah, okay. My mistake.

@fbueckert They said it wasn't working, I went to look, they laptop was closed and therefore on hibernate.

How were they expecting to use the mouse to star lt the movie?

@RonanForman I've had friends and family ask me how to wire stuff up.

I just helped my dad troubleshoot why his TV was doing wonky things a couple months back.

WHAT GOES? WHAT'S NEXT? YOU DECIDE! EPIC TAG BURNING OF STACK EXCHANGE!

@kalina ALL Stack Exchange? :o

3:23 PM

@kalina c++

@kalina UPUC TUG BURNUNG UF STUCK UXCHUUUUNGE!

@JasonBerkan noohs, save the c++!

Anyway, I've got to pay attention now, have fun burning things.

Q: Cleanup 2013: It's time for consensus on... the multiplayer tag

Sepia Lazers

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The multiplayer tag is not a good tag. Here are some previous resources for some "light" reading before we get started: Player Two Press Burninate? Should we keep the [Multiplayer] tag? The Great Arqade Clean-Up of 2012 Should we add more specific tags for ME3 questions? I'd rather this be di...

discussion tags

user15026

3:28 PM

@BenBrocka Mhm, wih magical sticky tape stuff

user15026

Well, one is on the wall, one is on my desk

user15026

@OrigamiRobot You people are weird

@AshleyNunn Are you calling me a liar?

user15026

@OrigamiRobot I would never.

user15026

I know better than to anger a robot

3:30 PM

So it is a pet name!

Q: What does the spare parts mod do?

> Microsoft sucks @ explaining things.

You'd think a billion dollar company would have learned how to do this effectively by now.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Nope. shudder

user15026

I don't really do pet names.

user15026

I find them weird.

Lazers

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In warframe there is a mod for sentinels (I can't remember whether it was rare or uncommon, but uncommon sentinel mods tend to be very rare anyways) called "spare parts", and its description goes along the lines of "+X drop rate". I have seen people requesting that their team have fully upgraded ...

warframe

user15026

3:32 PM

@fbueckert Considering everything I had to do to get win7 on a xp laptop, yeah, they are sucky explainers \

@AshleyNunn Me too. Especially "baby"

user15026

There are a few that I don't mind, but when you start like...chaining them into a weird thing like "my schmoopy woopy cutie patootie sugar pie" I want to throw stuff

@AshleyNunn My three year old honestly thinks my wife's name is "dear". I should probably stop saying it.

Pet Names are the worst.

user15026

@JasonBerkan For some reason that one is on my list of acceptability

3:35 PM

I don't even like honey sweetie or anything like.

user15026

I am really bad for using them

user15026

even though I hate them

It's not so bad between friends.

but I don't like it between romantic partners. If it's a one time thing not so much, but when it's all the time.

user15026

I call everyone "hun" A LOT and I hear myself and it makes me wanna throw rocks at myself

Being in the south, I get called honey, sweetie, sweetheart, darling, etc by complete strangers. I don't mind that so much.

3:39 PM

You know what else I hate?

Turtles

wtf

When people set their facebook status to "married" with their partner when their not married at all.

Wow. Valve pulled Dark Matter off of Steam.

user15026

@Wipqozn Even if they are common-law?

3:39 PM

@AshleyNunn That's fine.

@Wipqozn It's Facebook so I can't really have any manner of sway to hatred or appreciation.

I mean "We're dating for 3 months adn we're in looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo‌oooooooooooove"

console.log(c.x) => 345
console.log(c) => Object{ x=Nan,...}

wat wat wat

@AshleyNunn No, like, 2 high schoolers married

My friend made a sock of himself on facebook, and set his status to married to himself.

I'll 1-up you and just hate facebook.

user15026

3:40 PM

@Wipqozn oh, blerck.

@GraceNote I think most of my dislike is because I had a girlfriend tried to do it with me once.

I don't think it's even worth hate.

Are we talking about pet peeves now?

console.log(c.x) => 345
console.log(c) => Object{ x=Nan,...}
console.log(c.x) => 345

I'll 1-up myself and just hate all social networking sites.

3:41 PM

I denied it and she thought I was just being silly for being uptight about it.

@fbueckert Only as it relates to relationships.

I'll 1-up you and just hate everything

I'll be uptight about whatever I like.

@Unionhawk Even me? D:

user15026

@fbueckert Blame @OrigamiRobot and his weird ideas of what I might call @ToxicFrog.

3:42 PM

@fbueckert Dark Matter?

@OrigamiRobot Don't be silly. How could anyone hate you?

@AshleyNunn He's a frog, frogs eat flies, he's made of paper, Fly Paper!

user15026

@OrigamiRobot Why is he made of paper?

@Wipqozn Yeah, that's a little on the, "Ok, back off for a bit, will you?" side.

@AshleyNunn Everything is made of paper.

user15026

3:43 PM

@OrigamiRobot ....you live in an interesting world

@AshleyNunn Eh, it's made of paper only. Which granted, having been to a paper place there's quite a lot that can be done with just paper but all the same, it's still paper.

tugs

@fredley maybe overriding the toString() function?

@tugs No idea what was going on there

but it's fixed now

@GraceNote What do you have against paper?

@OrigamiRobot Paper is made of carbon. So are people and everything else, so everything is made of paper.

3:45 PM

When in doubt, ctrl+z until it works again

@OrigamiRobot A lack of major interest.

@GraceNote Message recieved. :(

I've already been wowed by seeing entire towns of buildings made out of paper. So a world is only really a step up from that, yanno?

tugs

@fredley :(

@tugs It was to do with me deleting dx instead of x from the Object's fields

3:50 PM

Aaand, after 3 seconds on /r/aww, I am done hating everything now.

See, now I wonder what language fredley was using earlier.

@Powerlord ...

v subtle BF4 dog punching trailer

@fredley What... you never said in the recent history. I could make assumptions, but you know what they say about assumptions.

Q: What can I do with the smack collected from NPCs?

@Powerlord ...

Lazers

3:56 PM

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In GTA V, if I kill NPCs as well as money they sometimes drop smack too. What can I do with this smack that I collect? Sell it? So far I’ve not found any use for it, or can’t see any use for it.

grand-theft-auto-5

@Powerlord Mption isn't here so really you'll only be hurting fredley here.