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18:00
@Aarthi yeah, all in one's tend to sacrifice for their form factor; you're going to get less computer per dollar spent on the whole. I think in some cases they're actually most of a laptop glued to the back of a monitor.
@Sterno I did point out in a comment to an existing answer that some passive skill values do change. I thought I had moved that into the question.....
@NickT no macs! :< hiss
@Aarthi is that an oatmeal thing? I must have picked it up and internalized it without realizing :P
@OrigamiRobot I like that question since I had the same question. The question about green text is a little unclear, and I wouldn't have expected it to answer my question, so I prefer the monk-specific one :)
18:01
@Rachel The monk's Transcendence it the exact reason I asked. I just made it useful to non-monks.
Oak
Oak
@bwarner very insightful blog post, I've enjoyed reading it
@OrigamiRobot I'd like your question a heck of a lot better if it asked "How do skills scale?" and maybe as a side note asked if that's what the green numbers were, rather than "What do the green number mean?" The scaling seems like almost an afterthought on your question
@OrigamiRobot When I say "I'd like", I mean as a dupe target
But at the same time, I like the "what do the green numbers mean" question because its also one I had
@Aarthi yeah, I think it's going to be like that with me and a MBP; the place I'm starting at is placing an order for a bunch next month or something, but the new one is supposed to launch about then; probably get stuck with an old one
18:03
I think they should both be open
As it is you have to read his question, follow you yours, get the answer to yours that yes, indeed, green DOES mean skill scaling, and only once that's answered does it become a dupe
@Sterno At the time I asked, I wasn't sure if they did scale. I was avoiding speculation.
@NickT MBP?
@Aarthi MacBook Pro
@Sterno My question is answered.
18:04
@OrigamiRobot I don't think a question should rely on an answer existing to determine if it's a dupe or not
@NickT oic.
I have the choice of a Mac or PC; my primary objection to Macs is that they're too expensive, but if I'm not paying, then whatever.
Not sure what the PC offering is though
@Sterno I specifically said "If the numbers change, what makes them change?"
@Oak Thanks!
@agent86 that's the thing that worries me the most; I want a machine that can handle games/movies but I don't want to sacrifice shiny to get that
18:05
There. I added Transcendence as an example.
@OrigamiRobot The answers to your question answers "Why are numbers in skill descriptions green?", and it is not clear that it might also answer "How does Transcendence scale?"
@Rachel "Some values scale with the player level(in intervals)."
They're two separate perfectly valid questions, which happen to have a related answer
@OrigamiRobot But it doesn't say "Transcendence scales with player level"
"Some Skills" does not necessarily equal "Transcendence"
@Rachel No, it is a more general question that is not specific to Transcendence, but Transcendence is covered by it.
How come you want it closed so much anyways?
18:07
@Rachel Fragmented information is bad.
But getting an answer to your question without having to read through a bunch of unrelated stuff is good
@OrigamiRobot If the answer to your question had been "Green numbers are just a color they like to use so that numbers stand out. it means nothing" would yours still have been a dupe?
I think questions should have to be dupes, not answers
But I also don't care enough to keep arguing. If you find 4 other close votes, rock on :)
@Sterno If that answer was correct, it would have to mean Transcendence didn't scale.
@OrigamiRobot YOU BETTER NOT FIGHT DIABLO WITHOUT ME
@Aarthi ah, at least I didn't steal it directly :P
18:09
Having to work when I simply want to be home playing diablo is horrible :(
4 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot
@Sterno I specifically said "If the numbers change, what makes them change?"
@agent86 true! but that comic is pretty much every observation about a mac user i've ever seen.
you guys are feeding my diablo addiction
@OrigamiRobot Then it sounds like your question really has to do with if and how skills scale, and "green numbers" really has nothing to do with it
@Aarthi shiny costs, so I don't tend to pay for it :P
18:09
How is that not asking the same question?
@Rachel same
I have all this desk space behind my monitor, and that's where I stick my tower
6 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot
@Sterno At the time I asked, I wasn't sure if they did scale. I was avoiding speculation.
@Rachel Not as horrible as taking a day off to play, and having the servers down for most of that time :P
@OrigamiRobot Yes, I've read your messages. You don't need to quote them. :)
18:10
Hahaha I did the same thing, but got to play a few hours in the morning before they went down, then a bit more in the evening
Napped while they were down, and was up at 5am playing ;)
@agent86 but shiny monitor is worth. it.
@Sterno I can change the title of my question to "Do green numbers in skills scale?" and the content of the question would not change.
@Aarthi but why does the shiny monitor have to be part of the computer? or why does the computer also have to be shiny? that's like buying a hammer with a cute pink handle ;)
@agent86 well, for me, the all-in-one is preferable because I have a small desk. space is at a premium.
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Q: What's the range of Rend?

heisheThe tooltip for Rend says: "Causes all nearby enemies to bleed for 210% weapon damage over 3 seconds." How far is "nearby"?

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Q: What is the trigger mechanic for the wizard passive critical mass?

pinouchonCritical Mass is a wizard passive: Critical Hits have a chance to reduce the cooldown of your spells by 1 second. Do you know what is meant by "chance" ? It is probably something like an increasing chance over time that decrease every time it triggers, because if it was a flat % chance it would ...

1
Q: Can I buy gold from the cash auction house?

EBongoI know you can buy equipment for real money in the cash auction house. Can you also just buy straight gold?

18:12
@OrigamiRobot My point is why does greenness matter at all? I think your question is hung up on that.
so what's everyone's favorite D3 spell
What if they used green for non-scaling numbers and yellow for scaling numbers?
@EBongo it can be bred though
@NickT Sacrifice is my new favorite
what class that? WD?
18:13
@Beofett says the parenting mod :P
@Sterno Because that is what made me think they can change. In Guild Wars, numbers that can change are colored. Numbers that do not change are not.
"What does the color mean?" and "How do skills scale?" are two separate questions which happen to be related ("Green means it scales... sometimes... only not really, it really just means it's a number")
Yep. Blows up all zombie dogs
@Aarthi I know, right?
There are green numbers that do not scale
@Beofett :P
18:13
I sacrificed my ability to play games already :(
@Sterno That is why I asked the way I did.
@NickT In Act 2 of nightmare, my build lets me sacrifice 6-8 zombie dogs in a fight with a champion pack or unique, and if anything is left standing by the end, they have only a sliver of health (unless they have an extra health affix, in which case they usually aren't as much of a threat)
I think you are focusing too much on the green aspect.
@OrigamiRobot We must be at work right now if we're arguing about this instead of actually playing Diablo
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plus it goes kaboom!
everyone loves a good kaboom!
18:15
6 mins ago, by spugsley
@OrigamiRobot YOU BETTER NOT FIGHT DIABLO WITHOUT ME
@OrigamiRobot I agree, but that's because that's how the question reads to me.
@Beofett The problem is that Zombie dogs can't stay alive long enough to be sacrificed in a good position.
I don't really get the WD skill set... half of my abilities are things that keep things away from me (pets, slowing darts, slowing AoE) and half of them require that I'm way up close.
@Sterno I changed the title to better suit the intention since now I know some numbers do change outside of runes.
18:16
@StrixVaria I'm not having that problem (yet). I suspect it will become more of an issue in Hell, or possibly even Act 3 of NM, but so far the build is quite effective
@OrigamiRobot :p
@agent86 Yeah it's weird.
@OrigamiRobot Awww don't change the question! I think it was good the way it was, and wanted to know what the green numbers meant :)
My main issue with the WD is all of the primary skills suck.
@OrigamiRobot you can....but you better fight him again when I get off work!
18:17
@Rachel I didn't change the question. The body is exactly the same.
Everything that actually does damage requires Mana, and that means that during any real fight I have no Mana ever.
@OrigamiRobot Question title then :)
@spugsley I won't fight him.
@StrixVaria I actually have no complaints about darts with splinters.
that the triple dart?
18:17
@OrigamiRobot I don't want to make you wait :( I wouldn't want to wait if it was reversed
yeah
@Rachel I kept the part about them being green in the body.
spams quite nicely
@spugsley I think you'd know how to handle this situation.
@Beofett That does a lot of damage but it forces you to stand still for a while, which is dangerous later on.
18:18
@RonanForman SPUGSLEY PUNCH
@StrixVaria true. I generally use it to finish off mobs that are weakened.
@OrigamiRobot I guess it's your question, but I thought it was a better question being one about the green text, since it was the same question as one I had. Its not as good of a question asking if green text scales, because of course it does :)
I've been using Firebomb with the chain bouncing stuff.
@spugsley YOU GUESSED IT!
goddammit, I was 1 minute too late on the gold answer. someone's going to have to revoke my FGITW credentials :(
18:18
I tried poison dart with the mana regen rune but it just was so weak.
@Rachel It still is about green text.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to completely change my build soon, though
@RonanForman dammit ronan, you got a girl preggo? shame.
Question title != question
@Aarthi What?
Just. What?
18:19
I just started the sacrifice build at the end of Act 1, and I'll probably swap out partway through Act 3
@RonanForman that is a baby! i can only assume it is your baby. shakes head
@OrigamiRobot I just thought asking "Whats the point of the green text" was a good question, while asking "do numbers in skills scale/change" seems kind of obvious...
Nice bounty @Oak
@Aarthi U JELLY?
@Aarthi @RonanForman Excellent! We need more questions on parenting.se!
18:19
@RonanForman NOT EVEN A LITTLE.
@Rachel I am asking both in that question.
@Aarthi Suuuuuure
@RonanForman does your dad know about your out-of-wedlock child? He'd be so disappointed in you. lookit you, just another statistic :( sadfaces.
(I'm winding you up, in case that's unclear.)
1 min ago, by Ronan Forman
@Aarthi Suuuuuure
have any of you other WD players tried a build without Soul Harvest?
18:21
@RonanForman does your dad know about your *Glock-wielding* out-of-wedlock child? He'd be so disappointed in you. lookit you, just another statistic :( sadfaces.
FTFY
@RonanForman HEY RONAN. You wanna do an artistic MS Paint rendering of me? I'll give you 50 rep. :D
@Beofett I have not used Soul Harvest at all.
Oak
Oak
@OrigamiRobot I really like the question. Until recently I even had no idea green numbers can change, so I really want some canonical answer that will sort it out for me
Except for 5 minutes once to try it out, then I got rid of it.
@Aarthi Maybe.
18:21
@RonanForman sweet.
@StrixVaria That was my reaction when I first got it, but then I tried it again around level 30, and it really is completely OP
@Aarthi I'm normally paid in t-shirts, but I'll except rep.
if you can stack it 5 times without dying :P
@Oak Me too. The current answer is good, except it is misleading and not as detailed as I'd like.
@Beofett It's overkill for me right now.
Any enemy I could have killed with it, I could kill just as easily without it.
It just might take a few extra hits.
The maintenance of having to catch 5 enemies together every 60 seconds to refresh it is just annoying.
18:23
yeah, that was what turned me off it at first
but pack of mobs + SH + acid rain = one-shot
@Sterno I timed out again :(
@Beofett I use soul harvest + fire bats right now, and it's pretty redic.
15 minutes maybe.
if I have a full 5 stack, sacrifice usually finishes champion groups in less than 6 seconds
@agent86 I can't use Fire Bats. It pretty much instantly drains my mana and leaves me helpless.
18:25
@agent86 bats is one skill that never made it to my action bar
One skill I would have trouble doing without is Wall of Zombies + the slow rune.
I really wanted to love wall of zombies, but I just never found it as effective as call of the dead
@RonanForman except or accept? :P I can pay you in tshirts, too. what's your favorite color?
@StrixVaria I've got the rune on it that releases a giant bat, and that can pretty well clear a hallway or line of guys out in a couple of hits, esp with the buff
Wall of Zombies does more damage and slows just as much as grasp with the slow rune, but it does have a much longer cooldown.
18:27
I'm waiting until I get the Pile On rune
@Aarthi BOTH!
@Beofett It doesn't affect the cooldown, so it's not very useful.
@Aarthi Nah, I do it for free anyway.
@RonanForman quit protesting and just tell me your fave colour! or else i'm just purchasing the purple one.
@StrixVaria yeah, I guess that would limit the utility for boss fights
18:28
I don't know which rune to use for Acid Cloud because they're all so good.
I didn't play with lob blob bomb... it's good?
That's the one I'm using now.
It's really good against single targets.
If you pile a bunch of slimes around a boss they take damage really fast.
I'm loving disintegrate right now, cuz lasers
It kind of increases the utility of the spell for me.
this weapon purrs and wants to be pet... petted?
18:30
nice. I've been having a hard time finding builds that have good single target damage without sacrificing too much AOE
@Aarthi Purple's fine.
@RonanForman can you commit to a photograph while wearing said shirt? :D
@Beofett Some Spirit Barrage runes are good for this too.
@RonanForman :P s'ok.
18:31
The AoE DoT one especially.
disintegrate + levels with hallways/stairs = win
@RonanForman art first, then giftie!
@Aarthi Of course.
@RonanForman brilliant. ruffles your hair affectionately
ooo it's @RavenDreamer :D
@StrixVaria I only tried the first rune (+mana). I wound up taking it out of my rotation before I got the next runes
18:32
@Aarthi O.o
What's going on in here?
@Aarthi Am I interrupting something between you and @RonanForman? I can leave if so.
@Beofett I used that rune a lot against bosses early.
@RavenDreamer I figured you would want in on it.
@RavenDreamer not really; i treat him like my kid brother.
I've found my least favorite champion affix / mob combination.
18:33
@StrixVaria It's how I beat Diablo
Fallen Lunatic + Teleport
@OrigamiRobot Please. I have enough trouble trying to keep track of fake internet hearthrobs I already have!
Teleport to you, then blow up for massive damage.
@RavenDreamer I think * is a pretty easy way to list them.
@RavenDreamer Arcane Vortex is the worst I've come across yet
Frozen Molten was the oddest
@OrigamiRobot Your SQL syntax both amuses and depresses me.
@RavenDreamer Fine, %. Happy now?
18:35
Is there no Massacre achievement? There's Destruction (50) and Massive Blow (30), as well as Pulverized (sorta; kill 1000 w/)
It wasn't the * that depressed me. It's that you thought it applied.
@NickT There's an achievement for a 50 destruction combo?
@RavenDreamer You obviously don't understand how I store data.
@Beofett I'm trying a soul harvest + gruesome feast combo now. I can get my damage to around 5000.
@OrigamiRobot I'm pretty sure it goes up your butt and around the corner
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I think I might stick with it :P
18:37
that's how robots work, right?
@spugsley And what a wonderful hello to you as well, Miss!
@StrixVaria What level?
@Beofett 53.
I'm in Act 1 Hell.
Gruesome Feast looks really good, but there's always been other passives I had to have instead
nice
18:38
90% of people who are just a statistic don't mind being one at all
@RavenDreamer well, hi :)
Do you get Fridays off?
@RavenDreamer no, I'm at work :(
Most doctors I've tried to schedule appointments with don't work on Fridays. :/
You should unionize or something!
@RavenDreamer do you have their info? I should go work there instead lol
18:40
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Q: Where can I farm Pages/Tomes of Crafting?

JamesSo I have found that these pages are needed for progressing crafting to grandmaster and illustrious. I have also been able to discover that in nightmare difficulty you get the pages, in hell you get the tomes and then in inferno you get the Tome of Secrets. What I am looking for is areas where I...

When I asked the same question about gems, I only got "Fight stronger monsters"
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Q: Minecraft offline name changing mac WIth MCPatcher

JonathanI want to change my minecraft name to be able to connect offline with friends on a mac and I am doing so at the moment with this command: #!/bin/bash cd ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft - Djava.library.path="bin/natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "YOURNAMEHERE" It has been w...

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Q: How do I kill the Treasure Goblin in Hell?

Bundy0125I've been playing through Hell mode on Diablo 3 for the better part of a day and have come across 3 Treasure Goblins. On all the lower difficulties you can either stun or disorientate him to cancel the portal. I've tried doing everything I can to stop him on Hell mode, though, and he still travel...

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Q: What is the range of a melee attack?

OakWhat is the range, in yards, in which you can perform a melee attack? Not including, of course, stuff like Deadly Reach. (it is my understanding that weapon type does not matter)

@OrigamiRobot Dude, Look at the first answer I got
@OrigamiRobot Until this morning, the answer was "go to the AH!"
It sucked beyond reason and it wasnt until last night that people have been generating that information
I think "fight stronger monsters" is better
18:42
@Beofett @OrigamiRobot Yeah this..
lol I read that as "How do I kill the Treasure Goblin from Hell"
@James I wish I had more hard data for you, but I think it'll be a while before we start seeing any decent sources of drop rate info
@RavenDreamer even in Normal on first char?
@Beofett Your's and @Michel's posts both have good basic looting rules tailored towards the crafting items. I am much happier with that info than I am with the buy it from the AH answer :)
@James I essentially got "There is no strategy or tactic to farming in Diablo 3."
18:45
@NickT I have no idea what you're referencing
@OrigamiRobot Yeah and this is being confirmed across the board really, which is why I am not asking where to get gems
jewelry vendors
It would see that by design they just want you to go randomly fight things to look for whatever you want
There is always an optimal balance of easy to kill enemies and valuable loot. — OrigamiRobot 22 hours ago
Which seems like... design by random... which is odd :)
18:46
They actually kind of explained that
They wanted to make sure there were no "ideal" farming spots because they didn't want people to feel like areas that might otherwise be fun to play in weren't "optimal uses of their time"
@Beofett Yeah but all I heard was 'wha wha we couldnt figure out how to randomly create specific encounters wha wha no more boss farming'
the forums have an amazing ability to bring together thousands of people who can whine about the most ridiculous details ever :P
@Beofett I was more talking about the designers :)
@James ah :)
design by random usually means some technical limitation was encountered when attempting to 'fix' something a higher up has demanded is wrong
18:49
What an utterly cynical view of the situation.
They backpedaled some on that towards the end, saying that Inferno would have more of a "zones of loot" effect
but since the very best items will be randomly generated, its only important if you want to worry about sets or aesthetics.
@agent86 so no more civ talk? 'cause this room are busy and i got stuff to do
I'M GOING WITH NO MORE. Bye everyone! /waves
@Aarthi You can never leave!

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