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2:00 AM

Is it good?

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@BenBrocka It's interesting. Definitely feels unfinished, but the important parts seem pretty solid. (Asynchronicity works pretty well, mechanics seem solid enough, mainly just not much content.)

@SaintWacko is up I guess.

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Q: How do I change the design of an already existing ship or base?

I've edited the default designs for my mining stations to include a little more firepower, however I'm not sure how to get the mining stations I've already built to switch over to the new design. How do I change the design of an already existing ship or base?

distant-worlds-legends

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Q: How do you make Mob spawners in minecraft?

I can only use pig ones and cant get mods. Please help as I am a map maker and really need these for one of my maps.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Is there a DM or does the game handle that stuff?

@BenBrocka Game

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@BenBrocka no DM. More tabletop 'style' than tabletop.

2:07 AM

I'm never going to finish writing this question.

I just invalidated a bunch of it too.

Is it based off a common rule book or something mostly original?

Have you played 4th ed. D&D?

@OrigamiRobot Myself, I'm aiming for the Dragon Queen of Bhutan.

No, mostly pathfinder and some other games I forget. Pathfinder is mostly 3.5 IIRC

@RavenDreamer What?

Ah, well it has "powers" much like 4th has powers.

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2:10 AM

@BenBrocka It's an original system, but it resembles D&D 4E in how it plays.

Queen Jetsun Pema Wangchuck (; Wylie: rje btsun padma; born 4 June 1990) is the Queen consort (Druk Gyal-tsuen, literally meaning "Dragon Queen") of Bhutan, as the wife of King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck. Early life Jetsun Pema was born in Thimphu on 4 June 1990, in the Thimphu Hospital. Her father is Dhondup Gyaltshen from Trashigang, the grandson of the Trashigang Dzongpon (Governor of Trashigang) Thinley Tobgye (aka Dopola 1893–1952). Dhondup graduated from Sherubtse College, Kanglung and has been a commercial pilot since 1989, initially with Druk Air and then Bahrain Air. H...

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@RavenDreamer Heh. Queen Wangchuck. Heh.

@RavenDreamer Also, she's married you asshole.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Quibbles.

Can you save drafts while writing questions?

Not on purpose. There's an auto-save that works...sometimes

I wouldn't trust it myself

2:24 AM

@LessPop_MoreFizz but she's cute

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@MBraedley Cuckolding royalty is a pretty easy way to get your nuts cut off I hear.

damn! i knew i forgot something on my todo list yesterday... lost my consecutive streak :( oh well back to square 1

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not too worried about the Bhutanese. They're pretty forward thinking.

So so far, the only suggestion for a PS3 game I should pick up is Uncharted. Anybody have any other suggestions?

What genres do you like?

I'd also suggest Infamous (1 and 2 are both good), Uncharted 2 and 3 (better than 1 I think), Disgaea 3 and 4 if you're into RPGs, LBP 1 and 2, everything by Pixeljunk except Racer

2:30 AM

@fbueckert infamous

@MBraedley Own it

@BenBrocka Most NISA games. RPG, mostly.

And get playstation +, since they started giving out full games it;s pretty much a requirement. The automatic updates/backup are a plus too

Oh, and Flower, Flow and Journey

Scott Pilgrim Vs the World if you don't have it elsewhere

Clarification: I have a full value trade in of Skyrim, so it should be a physical disk.

Ew physical things

Well most of whaT I mentioned above are on disks too

@BenBrocka Yeah, I know.

But, it is what it is.

2:34 AM

Some of the best PS3 exclusives are download only, IMO anyway

So I guess I'm hitting the local EB tomorrow to see what I can find.

If you like NISA Hyperdimention neptunia Mk2 (not 1) is good but I wouldn't pay full price (I got it for 30)

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@fbueckert Have you played Dark Souls yet?

@LessPop_MoreFizz Own 'em both.

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It's not going to match the full value of your trade, but it is excellent, and probably best on a console.

2:35 AM

Oh, and the Gundemonium collection is on PS3; if you like bullet hells, get that shit. It's download only too, but worth the real monies

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@fbueckert You know you can buy Steam gift cards at EB too, right?

Still haven't managed to finish the first one, but it's in the list of stuff to play.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Maybe in the States.

Haven't seen them in Canada.

Oh and Just Cause 2 (not worth the full value of your trade though) is a great pick up on console.

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Yeah, you can't get them here.

Really? Lame. What about XBLA/PSN cards?

2:37 AM

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Q: Stuck halfway through Sonic Generations, have all available levels completed

I am up to, and have completed, Radical highway. I have at least a D on all courses, with many being completed with an S or A rank. I don't know where I can go from here. I cannot advance any further.

3ds sonic-the-hedgehog sonic-generations

@fbueckert For PS3 games, pretty much the only games you should get that you can't play anywhere else are the Uncharted games. Or save the money for The Last of Us when it releases!

@BenBrocka Did not like their tower defense one.

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@fbueckert There's a new DMC coming in two weeks if you care about that franchise

@LessPop_MoreFizz Ooh! DMC is always good!

Hated 2, though.

DMC?

2:39 AM

Eh, there's plenty of other good stuff. But Last of Us does look freaking awesome

@BenBrocka Just got my 1-year of PS+! Woo!

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@fbueckert It's a reboot in fact.

@RavenDreamer I enjoyed it. It's great for coop. Very hard single player sometimes

@LessPop_MoreFizz Interest just died.

@Fluttershy cool stuff. If you have a PS3 check out the downloadables there too

2:39 AM

@BenBrocka I don't. =(

Seriously though, anyone with a PS3 who isn't monitoring The Last of Us closely is wrong.

Someone tell me about another cool kickstarter

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DmC: Devil May Cry

Microsoft WindowsJanuary 25, 2013 |modes = Single-player |genre = Hack and Slash, Beat 'em up |ratings = |requirements = }} DmC: Devil May Cry is an upcoming hack and slash beat 'em up video game developed by Ninja Theory and published by Capcom for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Microsoft Windows. Announced in late 2010 during the Tokyo Game Show, the game is set in an alternate reality in the Devil May Cry series. It will focus on the player character Dante, a young man with supernatural powers who finds himself under attack by a seemingly sentient town known as Limbo City populated by de...

@Lazers You have to complete at least one mini-game before each boss door in the console version.

Ah

I've heard of it then.

@Fluttershy BTW PS+ tip. Even if you don't download all the titles availible because of storage space, "purchase" them in the store to claim them

2:40 AM

Also also, any 3DS owners who enjoy the show Adventure Time should check out the game! >_>

@LessPop_MoreFizz Reboots, schmeboots.

Do something original, devs!

If you don't claim them you miss out on the deal (though sometimes they bring the games back). It's a revolving door kinda thing, new set of free titles each month now

@BenBrocka Will do. Thanks! =D I was gonna get a new memory card tonight, but they were sold out. =( So I got Torchwood season 1 instead.

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@fbueckert Because anyone ever plays Capcom games for the story anyway. Right.

@fbueckert I've never understood the drive against sequels. I mean, sure sometimes I want new stuff. But othertimes, I want to find out more about master sheppard, or what have you.

2:41 AM

Just make sure they show up with the red PSN "shopping bag" and it means you've "purchased" them. That means as long as you have PS+ you'll be able to download and play those games

@Fluttershy Tauchwud.

@RavenDreamer Yeah, so offshoot a story, I don't mind.

Definitely claim Wipeout, Uncharted and Gravity rush. I don't know how good Jet Set Radio is but I've heard good things about the series

It's the, "Oh, we're out of ideas, so let's just retell the first story!"

that I hate.

Oh, remakes.

2:42 AM

@BenBrocka Jet Set Radio is a fantastic game and you absolutely need to play it.

Hollywood is doing it, and it's bleeding into games.

That I understand a little more

But, for games at least, remakes let you update the graphics.

Metroid Zero Mission is a remake done right!

@Fluttershy I downloaded it, played a little into the tutorial is all. I didn't quite get the point yet

@RavenDreamer Remakes are something different.

That's taking the game, and updating it.

Been playing gravity rush since then

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2:43 AM

@fbueckert Eh, it's not about retelling the first story generally, so much as it's about "We want to tell a new story, but the story we want to tell can't carry all this baggage."

But original IP is hard </sarcasm>

Admittedly, the random stealth bit at the end has always seemed a little odd, but, w/e.

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Best example of this is what JJ Abrams has done with Star Trek, or what Nolan did with batman.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Then do a prequel or something.

@LessPop_MoreFizz This. I rememeber something related to Spiderman losing all memory of being married to Mary Jane, but nothing else changed, so they had still been living together for years, or somethink.

2:44 AM

Don't just go, "Hey, you know all that story we've been feeding you? Throw it out, and forget it."

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@fbueckert hard to do a prequel when the existing narrative is the origin of the character you're writing for.

@LessPop_MoreFizz So pick a different character.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I have friends who refer to that movie as "The JJ. Abrhams movie." "YOu mean star trek?" "No, I mean the JJ Abrahms movie."

shrug I liked it.

@RavenDreamer I've only seen that one.

@MBraedley Original IP is hard and risky. Old IP marketing and storywriting does itself. It's hard to resist if you're an MBA

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2:45 AM

@fbueckert This is the part where I withdraw from the argument because it is pointless to get into a religious war over something I care about a great deal less than you.

@OrigamiRobot Me too honestly. And they also gave me hell for liking voyager (mostly on account of Jeri Ryan)

Er. I liked it on account of Jeri Ryan. They weren't against Jeri Ryan per se.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Sorry. Reboots hit a very bad annoyance bone for me.

I love Reboot.

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@fbueckert Way I see it... If the game is good, the game is good. Regardless of whether or not it's a reboot.

@BenBrocka That, I know. It's risky, yes, but your fanbase will love you the more for taking those risks, rather than sticking to the safe path.

2:47 AM

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Q: How the heck does Steam's 'Downloads' page work, and how do I remove items From It?

Steam seems to arbitrarily keep things in the Downloads screen and have them show up later. Lately, most things that I have been downloading one or two days previously (why would anyone want to see recent downloads in progress, right?), and my Downloads page has a bunch of unfinished stuff I hav...

FINALLY

I don't need a star, guys. I already got the hat.

@Fluttershy Beat you to it

FOUR HOURS LATER

@OrigamiRobot You remember Mike the TV? That's me.

@fbueckert For games maybe. For movies I don't see the current trend bucking. People will always eat that shit up and new IP crashes and burns too often

@Fluttershy Games that don't re-tread their story > Games that do.

2:47 AM

@Fluttershy Those images tug at my childhood. But whys?

Can't... remember... reboot.

@fbueckert Blanket statement, that's not true in all cases.

@RavenDreamer seriously?

Yes, seriously.

@GnomeSlice Name one where a reboot was better than the original.

And I mean a reboot, not a remake.

Remember they'd go into 'games' every now and then and have to beat the user.

2:48 AM

@fbueckert Nolan's Batman.

@RavenDreamer HATE Batman.

@fbueckert Super Mario Galaxy.

@fbueckert The Amazing Spider-man.

@fbueckert It's okay. He can take it.

@GnomeSlice ...Mario has no coherent overarching storyline.

2:49 AM

Reboot is terrible.

@fbueckert That's not what you asked.

Games, people!

@StrixVaria NO IT IS NOT.

@Gnome was referring to games.

Looks like we're going to have Gir on Gir violence.

2:49 AM

@fbueckert Batman, Arkham Asylum

@GnomeSlice It's sort of required for reboots.

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@RavenDreamer HATE Batman.

@GnomeSlice I don't know why this is so good.

@fbueckert ...Since when is Super Maro Galaxy not a game?

@fbueckert So you don't like it, but it was objectively better than the previous games.

I hate Batman as a superhero because he's boring, but this game is really good.

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@fbueckert Casino Royale.

2:50 AM

Who's the voice at youtube.com/… in that video? I know that voice

@GnomeSlice It is a game.

@fbueckert Aren't you asking about games.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Haven't seen either.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Casino Royale is uh...the first book.

@GnomeSlice Yes. Everyone else was pointing at movies.

2:50 AM

Galaxy isn't a reboot, though.

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@StrixVaria Yes. And the film recently was a reboot of the film franchise.

@fbueckert The Hulk movie with Edward Norton rather than the one that was like 2 years before that.

@fbueckert Then why are you arguing with me when I'm the only one who isn't.

@fbueckert Twisted Metal, Tomb Raider (most likely), Ninja Gaiden.

@StrixVaria Barely.

2:51 AM

@GnomeSlice I'm arguing the point that Mario Galaxy isn't a reboot.

@Fluttershy Tomb Raider, maybe.

@fbueckert Okay, but you never said that once.

Ninja Gaiden, maybe.

@Fluttershy dfefuhegevr I was JUST ABOUT to post Tomb Raider.

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@GnomeSlice ...Mario has no coherent overarching storyline.

Does Twisted Metal even HAVE a story?

@fbueckert So? That's not what you said. It's a reboot of Mario.

2:52 AM

@fbueckert Sorta.

@fbueckert The same theme is carried out through every game.

Final Fantasy 3 was better than Final Fantasy 2. Each Final Fantasy is a reboot.

Jump on stuff, collect stars, save the princess. Reboot.

@GnomeSlice WHAT have we been talking about this whole time.

@fbueckert reboots that are better than originals.

2:52 AM

Reboots, where they re-write the damn story.

Also, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow was technically considered a reboot of the franchise. And that game was fantastic. Anyone who says otherwise is dumb.

Just Cause 2 is better than Just Cause 1 even though it borrows a lot from it.

@Fluttershy I can't say much about Tomb Raider or Ninja Gaiden; played the originals, haven't played the reboots.

@Fluttershy was that the 3D one?

Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time.

Excellent game

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2:53 AM

@fbueckert Tomb Raider: Legend is pretty great

@Fluttershy I was about to stop being your friend, but then I remembered I was thinking of Curse of Darkness. That game is terrible.

@BenBrocka It was the Xbox 360/PS3 one.

Oh. I couldn't get into the demo of that one

@fbueckert I thought you said a reboot was where they kept the same story.

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow

|genre=Action-adventure |modes=Single-player |ratings= }} Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is a video game in the Castlevania series, and a reboot of the franchise. It is an action-adventure game in a Dark fantasy (horror/fantasy) setting in Southern Europe during the Middle Ages. The game was developed by MercurySteam and Kojima Productions and published by Konami. Hideo Kojima, producer of the Metal Gear franchise, was involved with the title. The game was originally announced as Lords of Shadow with no connection to the Castlevania series mentioned. According to Konami, this was to keep t...

2:54 AM

I'm going to repeat: Metroid Zero Mission

My fav is and probably always will be SotN

@GnomeSlice Re*makes* are where they keep the same story.

Re*boots* are where they burn their previous story to the ground and start again.

@fbueckert Well if you want reboots where the story is different that are better, look at most of the Metroid games, and the Halo franchise. Also fallout... and Borderlands...

@RavenDreamer Zero Mission...that's the GBA one.

I"m not sure what you're asking about now, it sounds like you're asking about sequels.

2:55 AM

@BenBrocka Thanks. Now I want to replay it immediately.

@fbueckert Final Fantasy.

@fbueckert One of the two, yes.

@GnomeSlice facedesk

Borderlands? It's just a straight up sequal

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@fbueckert Also, I'm told the Mortal Kombat reboot from a few years ago was pretty great, I just don't care about Mortal Kombat.

2:55 AM

@fbueckert So is Metroid Fusion.

@fbueckert Oh, let me guess, you don't like shooters. Or popular games.

@GnomeSlice ...how is borderlands a reboot?

@StrixVaria See, that one's a little kooky in it's own right.

@OrigamiRobot I got that on PSP/PS3. If I could download it to PS Vita I'd probably play it again

Though actually, Zero Mission isn't a reboot, it's just a remake of Metroid.

@OrigamiRobot That's what I'm asking him, sounds like he's just asking about sequels...

2:56 AM

Wait lemme se if I can...

Are we sure @GnomeSlice knows what a reboot is?

That could be argued as continual reboots.

Guys, guys.

@OrigamiRobot Clearly not.

WHY IS CHAT MOVING SO FAST

2:56 AM

Is it like a game remade with new shit in it

@BenBrocka That's a given. SotN is... honestly probably one of the best games ever made. <_<

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@GnomeSlice There is a recent trend - substantially more prevalent in film than in video games - of taking an established franchise, and creating new titles which explicitly disavow the established story continuity in favor of a new, completely parallel narrative.

We need to define "Reboot" vs. "Remake", or we're going to be debating in circles.

I feel like I'm in a Twitch.tv stream.

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It's really not all that common in video games, hence the paucity of examples.

2:56 AM

Your face is a Twitch.tv stream!

@LessPop_MoreFizz That is not what I thought a reboot meant. I thought a reboot was a new game in an old franchise.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I think you mean movies.

That's how I've seen it used, anyway.

wait, is chat actually having an argument over video games? This is a first.

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@Wipqozn Yay, we're on-topic for once!

2:57 AM

@Wipqozn Well, movies too.

Oh shit son it is downloadable for vita

@GnomeSlice The issues it that it's only a reboot if it erases previous history.

@fbueckert This is crazy.

@BenBrocka WHAAAAAT!?

@BenBrocka It is? It wasn't at Thanksgiving...

2:57 AM

@BenBrocka Psh, I got my original PSX copy.

@GnomeSlice Otherwise, it's just a sequel

@RavenDreamer It doesn't have to be a re-thing of an old game?

Yes SotN is downloadable for Vita now

@OrigamiRobot Does it say "Greatest Hits" on the side?

I've never heard it used in any other way.

2:58 AM

@Fluttershy NO

@OrigamiRobot Good. <3

I guess the name makes sense though.

@GnomeSlice Nope. Reboot is old characters, new story. new game, . Remake is old characters, old story, new game.

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@GnomeSlice tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ContinuityReboot

STAR WARS

2:58 AM

It wasn't before because they're slowly churning through the catalog and either testing for compatability or releasing them slowly to not dilute the new content

Speaking of reboots... I just wanna say the latest Bond movies are among the best reboots of anything ever.

@GnomeSlice I think you're referring to sequels.

@RavenDreamer So yes, old characters.

@GnomeSlice Consists of three movies. Nothing else.

@Wipqozn There's six you idiot.

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2:59 AM

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@fbueckert Casino Royale.

@Wipqozn If you take out the awkward love stuff out of 3, that's not so bad.

@GnomeSlice No. There are only three.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I know! That's what jogged my memory. I was just too lazy to scroll up to reply to it.

@Wipqozn He would have made them in numeric order from the get-go if the technology had been more advanced. Would you have hated episodes 4 5 and 6 then? Just be quiet, this argument is stupid and I hate doing it every single time I mention Star Wars.

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