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5:04 PM

No DV on my part. — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#338878 Mari-Lou A (14400 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: 3) | posted 6 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | edited 4 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I don't want to start an argument, but I found the image to be...distasteful... so I removed it. — Laurel 1 min ago

re: "unobjective support", I've seen "ReinstateMonica" profiles as both close voters and reopen voters on many related posts. Just look at the edit history of the post in question. I don't think your claim reflects reality. — House- 'Reinstate Monica' -man 1 min ago

#338882 House- 'Reinstate Monica' -man (4896 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: -4) | posted 3 hours ago by bobobobo (12878 rep) | edited 5 minutes ago by Laurel (21046 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Absolutely - unfortunately, that question became a mess because it was 25% about concrete things SE can learn from, but 75% opinions and speculation about something that happened on another site. In an ideal world I think we'd post a tighter question, like "Can we learn from the way Wikipedia solved its controversy with Fram?", and invite Luke to transpose this excellent answer that is actually based on the facts of that case. — user56reinstatemonica8 5 secs ago

#338842 user56reinstatemonica8 (6373 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: 42) | posted 19 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (3259 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Discussing what's going on with the platform doesn't threaten the platform. Neither do avatars with a message. — Pekka supports GoFundMonica 27 secs ago

#338882 Pekka supports GoFundMonica (98455 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: -6) | posted 3 hours ago by bobobobo (12874 rep) | edited 13 minutes ago by Laurel (21046 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"if someone, or even a group of people, says 'This causes me (emotional) harm' for it to necessitate policy changes? ... What's to stop me from claiming that "using neopronouns causes me emotional harm"?" No no no, you are not allowed to do that. Those sort of statements can never be generalized. It is like people in the USA like to say "it's a free country" but you are only allowed to do what is is within the borders of the law. (E.g. no drinking before 21 years old) — Sextus Empiricus 2 mins ago

#335316 Sextus Empiricus (3109 rep) | A: Is there even an attempt by SE to make existing users more welcomed? (score: 127) | posted 40 days ago by Pascal says Talk to Monica (1954 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by Mari-Lou A (14400 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Discussing what's going on with the platform is not what's threatening the platform. Neither are coordinates avatars and user names; they're probably mostly ineffectual. SE has broken every promise to the moderator in question and the community; that is threatening the platform. No one is seeing Monica as a goddess, what a ridiculous claim. She is an individual who has been treated very unfairly. We care because a) that's wrong and b) it could really have been any of us. — Pekka supports GoFundMonica 21 secs ago

#338882 Pekka supports GoFundMonica (98455 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: -6) | posted 3 hours ago by bobobobo (12870 rep) | edited 24 minutes ago by Laurel (21046 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I think it was a very useful post; it's no surprise that similar problems keep arising among disparate communities. It's human nature, and we would all be well served in examining how other communities and companies handle those issues... what can help, and what can destroy. Learn it so we don't repeat it. I think the only real off topic part was self-inflicted by arguing needlessly over whether it was off-topic or not. — Ask About Monica 1 min ago

#338858 Ask About Monica (340 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: 15) | posted 14 hours ago by Rebecca J. Stones (3845 rep) | edited 14 hours ago by Peter Mortensen (6315 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Could you elaborate on "Keep in mind that a good number of the would-be participants in this type of discussion are forbidden from speaking about it."? — Justice for Monica 2 mins ago

So essentially all this type of post does is beat up on some people that have their hands tied. what a load of nonsense. They haven't said anything since this whole thing started and that led to the legal action in the first place that now is supposedly keeping them from talking about it. The company can choose to be truly transparent about this at any time. — Pekka supports GoFundMonica 32 secs ago

#338882 Pekka supports GoFundMonica (98455 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: -8) | posted 3 hours ago by bobobobo (12866 rep) | edited 38 minutes ago by Laurel (21046 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Reinstating monica won't resolve this. Asking the register to retract won't result in them retracting it. it's old news, and nothing will ever be done to resolve it. — Kevin B 19 secs ago

#338887 Kevin B (1930 rep) | Q: Reinstate Monica tag (score: -4) | posted 1 minutes ago by overlord - Reinstate Monica (93 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"Pinkwashing" or similar is my own suspicion. The messaging I'm getting from the company doesn't feel sincere. — TRiG 54 secs ago

@KevinB Oh it will be resolved. Even if it take Monica and her lawyers. — overlord - Reinstate Monica 22 secs ago

#338887 overlord - Reinstate Monica (103 rep) | Q: Reinstate Monica tag (score: -3) | posted 2 minutes ago by overlord - Reinstate Monica (103 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

So you believe money changing hands will resolve it? — Kevin B 32 secs ago

@KevinB Unfortunately, money seems to be the only thing large companies understand nowadays. — overlord - Reinstate Monica 48 secs ago

Monica followed the rules, and look what happened to her. — overlord - Reinstate Monica 17 secs ago

#338889 overlord - Reinstate Monica (99 rep) | A: Reinstate Monica tag (score: 3) | posted 2 minutes ago by πάντα ῥεῖ (6603 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

what will that actually do though? it's not going to undo the harm, it's not going to result in a retraction, it's not going to do anything but continue this discussion that will never have a conclusion that lives up to your demands. — Kevin B 22 secs ago

@overlord But that still is a single case, while tags should be used for categorizing general cases, like moderator-reinstatement already does. — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago

#338889 πάντα ῥεῖ (6613 rep) | A: Reinstate Monica tag (score: 4) | posted 6 minutes ago by πάντα ῥεῖ (6613 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@metasnail, that isn't surprising to me, but I think it's sad. I really can't overstate how badly this was botched. They could have remodded Monica right away, let things cool off a bit, and done a smoother rollout of a softer, less coercive policy, and initiated a gradual process of making things better for trans users. — gung - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

@KevinB I just want them to own up to their mistakes and make at least an attempt to help get her back on her feet. — overlord - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

I'm very suspicious of making things a preference. Given that the podcast is also announced in the Blog sidebar, AND that I could see the topbar being used for legitimate announcements ('Impending downtime!'), I'd much rather see the bar simply restricted to real uses, rather than letting people turn it off. — Michael Kohne 2 mins ago

#338886 Michael Kohne (1652 rep) | A: Can we reserve the top bar announcements for actual site news? (score: 1) | posted 14 minutes ago by David Starkey (1748 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

In a certain way you answered the question, it is just not a yes or no answer. — Sextus Empiricus 12 secs ago

@Mari-LouA Thanks for that information, but even if you did, I would consider that fully okay. We obviously disagree here. And albeit I sometimes express frustration over (unexplained) downvotes, I fully understand that some of my content is pretty polarizing. But our purpose here isn't to accommodate everyone anyway. So, some vote up, some down, thats the game. — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 31 secs ago

#338878 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: 3) | posted 7 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | Toxici

@House-'ReinstateMonica'-man It's a tag, not a hand grenade. — overlord - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

Spreading awareness is good, but we should follow the rules too. We're protesting, not rioting. — House- 'Reinstate Monica' -man 2 mins ago

'So essentially all this type of post does is beat up on some people that have their hands tied.' - Let me know when I should start playing the worlds smallest violin for the folks that shot themselves in the foot and then doubled down and did the samething to their other foot through their responses and inaction to Monica's situation. You've simply attacked and vilified the opposition and your answer is terrible and I really wonder on what grounds the three people that up-voted it did so. If you can't see how SE's treatment of Monica was wrong then there is no hope for you. — Script47 2 mins ago

Possible duplicate of When should I create a new tag? How do I request a new tag if I don't have enough rep? — πάντα ῥεῖ 50 secs ago

Possible duplicate of Should we have a tag for significant points in time? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 1 min ago

@overlord I am very happy that untrusted users aren't able to create tags arbitrarily. The system works very well. — πάντα ῥεῖ 9 secs ago

@overlord I've been watching all the case, and I have sympathy for Monica. But that won't be an excuse to throw all rules overboard. The drama already affects the state of MSE badly enough. — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago

#338889 πάντα ῥεῖ (6631 rep) | A: Reinstate Monica tag (score: 5) | posted 24 minutes ago by πάντα ῥεῖ (6631 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I can think of someone who is an undeniable expert in reinstate-monica. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 24 secs ago

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6:23 PM

@MichaelKohne True, but the idea is that users can restrict anything that they believe irrelevant. For other examples, the holiday hat thing and the yearly survey and results generally get notifications, and I'm sure some users would rather not be bothered by one of all of those. To avoid lots of specific options, you could also force notifications to have a category and allow disabling by that. — David Starkey 44 secs ago

#338886 David Starkey (1756 rep) | A: Can we reserve the top bar announcements for actual site news? (score: 1) | posted 46 minutes ago by David Starkey (1756 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

meta-stalker

6:35 PM

@overlord-ReinstateMonica - I'm all for keeping the pressure on... everyday... for months... until an official apology and retraction is issued as part of whatever legal comprise is reached. Don't let anybody forget or get comfortable. But tagging posts like that breaks a rule, and breaking rules gives the mods and CMs an excuse to delete it, to lock posts, to ban people. It's a tactical mistake, although your heart is in the right place. — Ask About Monica 2 mins ago

@KevinB - if SE contacted the Register and admitted that they were incorrect in their slanderous portrayal of Monica as rabble-rousing bigot, the Register would be THRILLED to run with that story. The gleeful chortling type of thrilled. (Which is one of the reasons I suspect SE is scared to issue the slightest admission of wrongdoing, and why they keep on sliding their head further into the sand.) — Ask About Monica 1 min ago

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6:55 PM

Yeah, no, that’d never happen. — Kevin B 1 min ago

@metasnail - Sure, so you moderate a tiny site, and you think that maybe everyone is exaggerating because your small puddle wasn't shook when the rest of the pond shook. I get that. However, when you start looking at percentages, it is a much different picture than the small puddle. 75 moderators, from a group of 171 sites, is a third of that group, and representative of the community moderation effort. The community moderates far more than individual moderators, which you should know being a moderator. The combined effect of diminished action is undeniable, and evident across the exchange. — Travis J 58 secs ago

#338840 Travis J (28057 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 0) | posted 21 hours ago by Travis J (28057 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"Trying to raise children by making sure you never trigger unwanted emotions in them is a really bad idea that likely is doomed to either fail or produce adults which are incapable of controlling their emotions - how could they, when it was never expected of them?" Therein lies our newly minted cultural/generational problem... — I am Monica 1 min ago

Ironically, this question is now at 0/-18, which you means you've lost ... 36 points. — rgettman 1 min ago

#338865 rgettman (4064 rep) | Q: Yesterday, i think i have lost 36 points, feeling very sad (score: -18) | posted 10 hours ago by forkdbloke (67 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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7:23 PM

I’m sorry, but moderators unilaterally closing it twice and then claiming there’s enough controversy that it requires a lock isn’t exactly equivalent to the community having a problem deciding what to do with it. It seems more like some of the community disagrees with the moderators’ view. Which is fine; not everything that is popular is good for the site. Let’s just not pretend that the moderators were somehow uninvolved in making it a “highly disputed” question. — ColleenV 12 secs ago

#338878 ColleenV (4201 rep) | A: Please unlock “Fram's ban on Wikipedia…What can Stack Exchange learn from it?” (score: 3) | posted 8 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | edited 6 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

If there are 50 distinct, fully conceptualized suggestions for increased participation, they probably deserve their own answers. I'm skeptical that it would get quite that out of hand, though. Even so, that's sort of the model. — I am Monica 1 min ago

#338821 I am Monica (1395 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 2) | posted 24 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | edited 9 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@rockwalrus-stopharmingMonica That was exactly my motivation when writing this ;) — Laf - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#338892 Laf - Reinstate Monica (956 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 0) | posted 6 minutes ago by Laf - Reinstate Monica (956 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@IamMonica I think this is the wrong place to discuss that. I think it is extremely unusual here to have one user put down multiple answers (3, 5, or more) below a question. Maybe I am wrong about that ... but in order to find out whether that would be a good practice, one would almost need to write up a new question on MSE to ask specifically about it. As said, I doubt many people would appreciate that approach. — GhostCat says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#338821 GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 2) | posted 24 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | edited 9 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (11659 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/

This is a great idea. It solves the "Sure, Meta says X, but our confidential surveys say Y." "Really? Sounds dubious. Let us see that data." "Sorry, we can't. It's secret." "Whose fault is it that it's secret?" problem. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 2 mins ago

#338892 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4680 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 0) | posted 6 minutes ago by Laf - Reinstate Monica (956 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

meta-stalker

7:44 PM

That's fine as far as it goes, but I'd argue that the hats are one more thing that should just be in the blog feed, and NOT put into the notifications. I'm arguing that notifications shouldn't need to be turned off because they should ONLY be used for stuff that's actually important. Everything else should go on the blog. — Michael Kohne 2 mins ago

#338886 Michael Kohne (1722 rep) | A: Can we reserve the top bar announcements for actual site news? (score: 3) | posted 2 hours ago by David Starkey (1776 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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8:03 PM

past experience — Kevin B 1 min ago

@KevinB: How can you be so sure? — James Reinstate Monica Polk 2 mins ago

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8:19 PM

@KevinB: The Register is a UK site. Their legal climate about libel is notoriously harsh. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 2 mins ago

@gung-ReinstateMonica Unfortunately, at this point I don't think there are any easy answers. The things that needed to happen, needed to happen a long time ago. For my part, I gave up; I scheduled my meta account for deletion seven days ago, so I'm expecting it will eventually disappear, and when it does I'll stop haunting the MSE comment section with my presence. I'm sorry I can't really answer your question. — metasnail 50 secs ago

@forkdbloke I would recommend against purposely trying to get reputation. Try to use Stackoverflow as a tool and ignore the gamification of it. Otherwise you may find the reverse effect. — dustytrash 2 mins ago

@PeterMortensen Now fixed (good catch). — bgoodr 22 secs ago

You should be able to search for the name of the post in the chat room. If the name changed before it was posted then you may need to try whatever it was edited to. Alternately you can search for the posters username. — Peilonrayz 1 min ago

#338893 Peilonrayz (2151 rep) | Q: How can I tell when a question was posted on the Recent Questions chat ticker feed? (score: 2) | posted 44 minutes ago by curious (530 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

That's OK, @metasnail. Thank you for the comments. Be well. — gung - Reinstate Monica 36 secs ago

To be clear, searching by the title returns "No messages found" but there is a feeds icon with the question right at the bottom and I can see a timestamp in the XML — curious 1 min ago

#338893 curious (530 rep) | Q: How can I tell when a question was posted on the Recent Questions chat ticker feed? (score: 2) | posted 48 minutes ago by curious (530 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Peilonrayz That seems like it worked! If you don't mind posting this as an answer, I would accept it — curious 2 mins ago

plz no in-app notification. that'd be quite irritating for those of us who decide to use it anyway, already knowing it's out of date. Currently it's the only way to receive mobile inbox notifications without relying on a mailbox, at least as far as i'm aware. — Kevin B 57 secs ago

"Why are both Wikipedia and Stack Exchange both pushing now for inclusivity for women, minorities, etc., rather than in the last 10+ years?" That's a really good question and maybe worth it's own question thread. On the other hand I would like first to establish that that really is the case. The pronoun rule is hardly noticable in practice and as a side effect also increased the feeling to be at risk. It would be interesting to discuss how inclusive SO really had become. — Trilarion 2 mins ago

See my updated Q and comment below. It seemed like it worked at first but it's not the original timestamp. It shows the current time. — curious 1 min ago

#338894 curious (550 rep) | A: How can I tell when a question was posted on the Recent Questions chat ticker feed? (score: 0) | posted 10 minutes ago by Peilonrayz (2151 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@MichaelKohne That's the problem, who gets to decide what is "actually important"? Some users might think the annual survey is a nuisance while others think it's important. If you want to say only impending downtime should get a banner that's fine, but others might think topics outside the availability of the site are also important. — David Starkey 42 secs ago

#338886 David Starkey (1776 rep) | A: Can we reserve the top bar announcements for actual site news? (score: 3) | posted 3 hours ago by David Starkey (1776 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The sandwich technique is not used by most companies, and especially not by successful ones. The trend now is towards retention in all situations as companies attempt to build social coalitions - regardless of if that person is an employee or not. If something needs to be said, don't sugar coat it; say it as honestly and truthfully as possible, and attempt as much as possible to be ready to listen to the response it elicits in an earnest and empathic manner. Then move on. — Travis J 2 mins ago

Do know that the Recent tab does support paging but only if you fiddle with the page number in the url. So if it is not weeks back you might get there by looking over 2, 3 or 4 pages. — rene 1 min ago

I don't think you need the footnote, personally. Be nice may be to the point, but it conveys a deep meaning. There is power in brevity. — Travis J 1 min ago

#338464 Travis J (28067 rep) | A: How to be nice (even when you don't want to) - The basics (score: 51) | posted 6 days ago by Robert Harvey (131525 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Ooh yes, so much this. You're going to get one of my bounties. — Rand al'Thor 1 min ago

#338895 Rand al'Thor (20806 rep) | A: How to be nice (even when you don't want to) - The basics (score: 1) | posted 4 minutes ago by Rainbacon (1003 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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9:24 PM

But who determines which gender-neutral language should be used and which is not acceptable? Shouldn't that be included in your proposed policy? — JJ for Transparency and Monica 8 secs ago

#338638 JJ for Transparency and Monica (2687 rep) | A: Policing gender expressions and pronouns (score: 2) | posted 4 days ago by eyeballfrog (501 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Wait, the ticker feed? These don't end up on the transcript... they wouldn't be searchable. hmm... — Mathieu Guindon 48 secs ago

meta-stalker

9:38 PM

@MathieuGuindon I know the other two work but wasn't sure if the ID worked. Good to know :) — Peilonrayz 1 min ago

You could try subscribing to the RSS feed with, say, Outlook -- that should bring a number of relatively-recent items, and then you can use Outlook's (or whatever your RSS client is) search functionality to look for it. — Mathieu Guindon 12 secs ago

@LShaver How was the number of .015% of Meta users calculated? - discussion at MSO — gnat 38 secs ago

@Trilarion Agree we should separate out the post-September environment, so I'll set those events aside. The voices I find squelched the most on meta is the middle crowd, somewhere between 10 and 10k rep. Neither power users nor help vampires (though often lumped in with the latter when people are arguing against changes). Changes like increasing question rep and putting a temporary cap on the displayed negative score (like reddit does) can benefit this group, but based on the reaction to both, I don't think asking meta beforehand would've gone much differently, even in January. — Troyen 38 secs ago

#338808 Troyen (4295 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 7) | posted 29 hours ago by Trilarion (3715 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Possible duplicate of The homework tag is now officially deprecated — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 56 secs ago

#99013 Columbia says Reinstate Monica (10615 rep) | [Q: Is it ok for people to be so nagging about the [homework] tag?](meta.stackexchange.com/q/99013) (score: 13) | posted 3048 days ago by Marcelo (985 rep) | edited 913 days ago by Community (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | Comment on inactive post | tps/fps: 0/0

@KevinB: Web sites can send notifications now, so you should consider proposing that SE add that functionality. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 48 secs ago

#338769 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4680 rep) | Q: Clearly communicate that the Stack Exchange Android App is no longer being developed (score: 67) | posted 48 hours ago by bgoodr (1709 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by bgoodr (1709 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Trilarion Power users can provide valuable insight, but their experiences and interactions with the site/community are different from everyone else's, so if a change is proposed that targets a different group and the power users strongly disagree with it, but the company goes ahead anyway (to help that other group), I think the reaction would be worse than if it wasn't proposed in the first place. Now you get complaints that the community was overruled instead of the community wasn't consulted. — Troyen 8 secs ago

#338808 Troyen (4295 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 7) | posted 29 hours ago by Trilarion (3715 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Absolutely not claiming the company is blameless here (especially not with recent actions), but I can see why they may not want to bring some changes to the community for consideration. The bunker mentality explanation matches what I've seen, though instead of "last two years" I'd say closer to "since 2013-2014". — Troyen 1 min ago

#338808 Troyen (4295 rep) | A: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 7) | posted 29 hours ago by Trilarion (3715 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

We used to have a "Too Localized" close reason, but SE decided to do away with it. — Robert Harvey 9 secs ago

#338897 Robert Harvey (131525 rep) | Q: Questions that talk about "today" or "recently" etc -- considered harmful? (score: -1) | posted 23 minutes ago by Roger (115 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

This is the exact reason why I and some others initially missed the question score adjustment announcement banner because the banner has also been showcasing a bunch of podcasts. — Troyen 21 secs ago

Propose it here: area51.stackexchange.com. That said, it seems very specific; colorimetry questions can be asked on the Math site. — Robert Harvey 57 secs ago

#338899 Robert Harvey (131525 rep) | Q: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: -1) | posted 3 minutes ago by U. Windl (229 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

area51...are you saying the topic is very exotic (read: special)? Isn't all the stack exchange about meeting specialists? Asking in math: Many problems are not about mathematical formulas; there's more behind... So it seems I don't have a good answer yet. I'll post my new question in photography and see what happens... — U. Windl 19 secs ago

Possible duplicate of How can I propose a new site? — PolyGeo 26 secs ago

I would recommend adding Please don't use my name in a tag. I'm a victim not the cause and labels have a way of sticking long-term. – Monica Cellio(meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334642/…) in case the source comment gets deleted. — SecretAgentMan 17 secs ago

#338890 SecretAgentMan (1093 rep) | A: Reinstate Monica tag (score: 22) | posted 4 hours ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4676 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

As amusing as it is to watch you try to cultivate unicorns and rainbows in this post, I don't think any answer is going to be useful without examining the reasons why participation is so low to begin with, and that conversation starts with our hosts. I managed to live quite nicely without Meta.SE for two years before the pronoun debate brought me here, and I'm sorry I came back. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago

#338806 Robert Harvey (131525 rep) | Q: What new things can be done to increase participation in MSE? (score: 11) | posted 30 hours ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4573 rep) | edited 29 hours ago by Peter Mortensen (6315 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Possible duplicate of How can I propose a new site? — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 27 secs ago

The simple fact is that the vast majority of participants on the Stack Exchange network only care about getting answers to their questions. A smaller minority like providing those answers when they can find decent questions to answer. Only the most stalwart of us congregate here, discussing issues that have little to no relevance to the community at large. — Robert Harvey 46 secs ago

Finally, I ask pointedly: why should anyone come here at all? Of what benefit is there discussing things when corporate has made it crystal-clear that they have no interest in engaging meaningfully, except on their own terms about the things they're interested in. — Robert Harvey 36 secs ago

Possible duplicate of How can I propose a new site? — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

One problem is if you search the list of sites using a keyword like "color", the site suggested is not listed as color-science is a tag within the site (which does not cause a search hit). — U. Windl 22 secs ago

#338900 U. Windl (243 rep) | A: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: 1) | posted 19 minutes ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4598 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@KevinB It could be a dismissable notification. — faintsignal 13 secs ago

Just in case: My new question was: photo.stackexchange.com/q/113243/82107 — U. Windl 1 min ago

#338902 U. Windl (241 rep) | A: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: 0) | posted 6 minutes ago by Rob (6055 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@JJforTransparencyandMonica I don't see why any gender-neutral language should be considered unacceptable. If someone wants to use xe instead of singular they, that's fine. — eyeballfrog 43 secs ago

#338638 eyeballfrog (501 rep) | A: Policing gender expressions and pronouns (score: 2) | posted 4 days ago by eyeballfrog (501 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@U.Windl Kel Solaar, who gave you that amazinginly excellent answer to the last question, posts on Computer Graphics as well. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 1 min ago

#338900 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4598 rep) | A: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: 1) | posted 34 minutes ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (4598 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

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11:11 PM

Scott's very knowledgeable, you might go OT there in a day or two; they'll help you improve your question first, but it's a stretch as to how it's directly related to photography. Back to my answer above, does this answer on Physics.SE completely answer your question?, the other answers provide a bit more help. — Rob 1 min ago

#338902 Rob (6065 rep) | A: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: 1) | posted 28 minutes ago by Rob (6065 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

OK, so far I have 5 down-votes, but I must admit that I did not find meta.stackexchange.com/questions/76974/… before. In addition the answer given below is much better than the generic advice. — U. Windl 2 mins ago

meta-stalker

11:52 PM

@U.Windl I agree that Physics could be a good match, but as Rob says, you will need to be careful. Physics has a strict policy against "how do I calculate this" and "check my work" questions. It's primarily to fend off homework questions, but it also covers stuff that isn't actual homework. — PM 2Ring 2 mins ago

#338902 PM 2Ring (179 rep) | A: Should there be a colorimetry site? (score: 4) | posted 1 hours ago by Rob (6095 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I have asked elsewhere: "What isn't a neo-pronoun?" and I consider the response "Nothing isn't a neo-pronoun" to be a legitimate response, but I would like to see it explicitly stated. If there are series of characters (or glyphs) which are not neo-pronouns, then again, I would like to see it explicitly spelled out what isn't a neo-pronoun (and, ideally, why not). — Rounin says Je suis Monica 27 secs ago

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