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emanresu A

@DLosc Can you explain to me why dso.surge.sh/… behaves differently from dso.surge.sh/…?

Radvylf Programs

I GOT A PAIR OF HEADPHONE FOR MY BIRTHDAY AND MUSIC SOUNDS TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW OMGGGGG

thejonymyster

lmao welcome to songs

Radvylf Programs

I literally did not know bass existed until now, I will never go back to laptop speakers

Wezl'

@RadvylfPrograms yes had exactly that experience

Radvylf Programs

01:10

I was like, what is Mikey's job, he literally doesn't make any noise

And now I can hear him

thejonymyster

thats so funny actually

Wezl'

which is why I have music that I like and music that is meh, rather than just "music is meh" (not exactly how I felt but I definitely appreciate everything better now)

*uses this as an excuse to share music*

emanresu A

Well, I got what if 2 today, so I'm not getting any work done

Radvylf Programs

Oh cool

thejonymyster

@Wezl' already on it

Radvylf Programs

01:12

I meant to ask for that for my birthday too but totally forgot lol

Wezl'

september birthdays gang? :P

emanresu A

@Wezl' here's some for you

Wezl'

the playlist I made just this afternoon

Radvylf Programs

here's an awesome song I found last night

Wezl'

@emanresuA so proud of u :P

there's music for the heart, for the mind, and for the soul. And then there's music for the ADHD

(rickrolling is for the soul definitely :P)

Radvylf Programs

01:18

What my parents really got me for my birthday is an excuse to ignore them when I'm in my room :p

"Hey Ryan why didn't you mow the lawn"
"Sorry, heaphones"

lyxal

It also seems that they got you an excuse to forget how to spell

Radvylf Programs

yea I don't think I've spelled "headphones" right yet lol

Wezl'

@RadvylfPrograms I'd share the literal forest that is my backyard but the sun is unobligingly sleeping

Radvylf Programs

Oh god the ping sound is so much different with headphones

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms now imagine that but it's a) late at night (like midnight) and you're in a different tab doing something else or b) you get pinged 5 times in a row

@RadvylfPrograms it's very easy to get jumpscared by the ping noise

@RadvylfPrograms I know this for a fact because scenarios a and b have both happened to me

Radvylf Programs

01:24

It's not as startling when you've got music at max volume already playing though :p

lyxal

In other news, looks like they finally added support for viewing github action workflows to the github mobile app

Wezl'

@Wezl' let me share some pain with you @Wezl' @Wezl'

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms wait so you've never had headphones before?

Radvylf Programs

Nope

Got a pair of wireless earbud thingies last Christmas but they didn't fit in my ears like, at all, so they sounded even worse

But I just went with some wired over-ears, and they're amazing (ATH-M50x)

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms Listen to Bohemian Rhapsody

Radvylf Programs

01:29

Will WttBP work? It was partially inspired by that :p

emanresu A

Listen to Never Gonna Give You Up

caird coinheringaahing

Hpnestly, I was meh on the song before getting a quality pair of headphones, and it's now easily one of my favourite songs

emanresu A

And then all the random remixes of it lyxal has

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms What's that?

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms I just realised - you can now experience 8d audio properly

Radvylf Programs

01:30

My Chemical Romance - Welcome To The Black Parade [Official Music Video] [HD]

►

lyxal

Oh you're in for a treat - 8d audio is trippy af with headphones

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Still waiting on @lyxal to make Never Gonna Give You Up out of his screams and Aaron washing sounds

8

Radvylf Programs

@RadvylfPrograms Only the third best song ever made

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing If this message gets enough stars Lyxal has to do this

Radvylf Programs

TFoD is pretty good with headphones, and I still can't tell what half the lyrics are lol

I can hear the sound in the different ears in 21 guns and the noises my tongue makes

lyxal

01:34

> the noises your tongue makes

The wire goes in the computer not your mouth

Dumbass Radvylf not knowing how to headphones smh

Wezl'

wow can't believe ur letting me appreciate rock music radvylf

(wait is radvylf secretly a vulfpeck fan- I feel so disappointed I didn't realize this sooner :O)

Radvylf Programs

Never heard of them

Wezl'

*pastes another funk playlist*

Radvylf Programs

90% of what I listen to is MCR, there's like, single songs from Green Day, Paramore, AFI, and a few others that I like

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms you should check out this playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTquYIH4L4RX6-SKp__3WR8EKUJct6_6i

emanresu A

01:40

Can't listen right now but that looks amazing

Wezl'

anyway vulf records includes (?) the fearless flyers, which is what I actually care about sharing

Unrelated String

@RadvylfPrograms wait did you actually listen to music on laptop speakers

holy fuck

that is legitimately tragic and i am saying that as someone who's not even really into music

Radvylf Programs

Well yeah what else would I have used, my motherboard's beep codes?

I mean I've had basically no interest in music until about a year ago (Octoeber 7th 2021) so I didn't have any speakers or headphones or anything 'cause why would I need them

Unrelated String

01:59

gaming?

or just like
listening to literally anything privately

Radvylf Programs

I'd just listen to stuff in my room. Not like I need an excuse to avoid my family :p

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how quietly though

or does your room have like really thick walls

Radvylf Programs

I mean, they're normal walls

But I can't imagine sound going through them

Unrelated String

i feel like any volume you wouldn't have to lean in to listen to clearly would be at least faintly audible through the walls

Radvylf Programs

What kinda walls we talking here

Mine are like, drywall, air with studs, drywall

Unrelated String

02:03

just like
normal, a few inches thick wood frame drywall kinda deal

yeah exactly

i was about to ask if yours are like brick or something

Radvylf Programs

I can't really imagine sound going though them, at least not at the volumes my laptop can produce

Unrelated String

max volume on your laptop could definitely leak through

Radvylf Programs

I'm gonna have to try that

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also consider the door itself; even if there's no gap under it somehow it's still probably only an inch of wood

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, the door's the only point I'd imagine it'd escape, but there's lots of like, soft material in my room so the sound level fades significantly by the time you reach the door

Unrelated String

02:07

but maybe i'm just plain paranoid about this :P

interesting

Radvylf Programs

I've only gotten a comment like "were you listening to music I guess" once, and it was with someone standing right outside my door in absolute silence with my old (louder) laptop at max volume

Unrelated String

oh wow

Radvylf Programs

Probably helps that I usually work while lying on my bed

Unrelated String

ah lmao

Radvylf Programs

I could definitely imagine people hearing some of the sound if I was at my desk (which is also closer to my door)

Unrelated String

02:08

i tried that a couple times when i first got a laptop but it felt like an ergonomic nightmare

anyways i'm not sure how i'd even explain myself if someone thought i was listening to music :P

att

02:39

you were listening to music? how dare you

Niko

system of linear equation problem is very close to (or even contains) reduced echelon form ?

I was abusing my new learn math knowledge to do some codegolf

Radvylf Programs

Yeah, ^^^ :p
Are you just like, self-conscious about your music taste?
(I mean, I'd be if I was listening to the other type of music I like, which is 2014-2015 pop music for some reason)

(I don't know how I'd explain to somebody that I like My Chemical Romance, AFI, and mid-2010s Taylor Swift)

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i didn't have anything resembling taste in music until i got into anime
and now i still don't have taste in music, just something resembling it
which is even worse

Niko

I just listen to rhythm game music mostly

lyxal

If I had to explain the music I enjoy to someone, I'd describe it as a monstrosity of meme music, soundtracks from TV shows like BB and BCS and OSTs from various rpgs, with a sprinkle of obscure edm style things I found from clone hero streams

Unrelated String

02:51

lol

lyxal

Meme music includes ytpmvs and vocoded stuff

As well as anything from the weird world of gen z humour

Unrelated String

oh yeah reminds me i've tried a few times to get into russian music just for some semblance of reinforcing vocabulary and grammar skills since i maintain and use my flashcards maybe once every two weeks but every time i get a recommendation i just forget to listen to it

which also reminds me some time i should actually try learning japanese :P

att

03:31

from esolangs to natlangs

DLosc

04:24

@emanresuA {y} is a function that returns the current value of y when the function is called; (y) is an expression that evaluates to the current value of y when it is first evaluated. The lhs of M gets evaluated before the rhs, so y is still "" at that point because the yank in the rhs hasn't happened yet.

Also why is the input being treated as if it's the command-line args, that's weird

@RadvylfPrograms "I have eclectic tastes" is the line I plan to use if anybody asks about the music I like... which they haven't :(

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emanresu A

04:39

@DLosc Because that's how I implemented it lol, pyodide stdin is sus

DLosc

Ah, ok. Just means a couple language features aren't available, but they're not used that often these days anyway.

emanresu A

What about this though?

DLosc

@emanresuA So y+_ is still an expression, and it uses the value of y when it is first evaluated. It just happens that the result of the expression is a function.

(Might be less confusing if you drop the parentheses, which aren't needed because M is pretty low-precedence.)

emanresu A

... why isn't it treated as a block then?

att

does anyone have a good idea for a character to use for boolean true if 0 is boolean false

Unrelated String

04:54

O

DLosc

@emanresuA Cuz it's not a block? ;P

emanresu A

Nvm got confused

Unrelated String

then 0 is an O with a slash through it :P

att

then o should be completely unrelated right (:

Unrelated String

of course :)

DLosc

04:56

@att 1 and T come to mind

Unrelated String

1 is out because this is church numerals

but yeah T is probably the best idea

come to think of it maybe for non-letter ideas... |?

att

hm that could be decent

DLosc

@emanresuA Compare: lambda expression; block

att

05:59

@ also looks pretty reasonable

Unrelated String

06:41

yeah

PyGamer0

07:20

i made a very cool thing

it's a simple simulator

it simulates springs

and points

emanresu A

Sounds like ballfactory.surge.sh

One of my old projects

PyGamer0

github.com/PyGamer0/bridge-sim

vid

@emanresuA it doesn't look very accurate :p

mine is slightly accurate

graffe

11:33

Hi all

pxeger

Hello

PyGamer0

Hi

Does anyone know how bigints are implemented?

(say for example, python's bigints)

i suddenly remembered i made some project in python, a todo list keeper or something

pxeger

github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Objects/longobject.c

PyGamer0

i see

what does static do on functions?

pxeger

12:01

makes it file-private

Seggan

12:44

thats stupid

PyGamer0

13:06

@pxeger oh

@Seggan ~~its called keyword overloading~~

Seggan

i know but using static for that?

pxeger

presumably they didn't want to introduce a new keyword, so they looked at the list of existing keywords and picked the best one that was unambiguous

I've said it before, I'll say it again: backwards-compatibility is the root of all evil

graffe

13:25

puzzling.se needs a sandbox. Unless that is it has one and I just missed it?

pxeger

I think there is one

graffe

oh where is that?

pxeger

here

graffe

thanks!!

@pxeger who copied whom?

pxeger

I think we were the first site with a sandbox

graffe

13:41

it's a great idea

pxeger

Our sandbox has existed at least since 2011

graffe

any way to tell how old their's is?

pxeger

Not easily, since I don't have 10k rep on puzzling so I can't look for the oldest answer there

but it looks like they've only had one sandbox question, so it was created on Aug 22 2016

(unlike us - we've had several sandbox questions that all got merged, so the earliest sandbox answer is older than the sandbox question)

graffe

thanks

all very interesting

now I just someone to give an answer to my bountied question :)

I feel the maximum bounty should be a power of 2 times 100

so I can double it each time

PyGamer0

14:39

@pxeger looks at k

which breaks backwards compatibility everytime

pxeger

good

PyGamer0

each version of k breaks something lol

@pxeger i agree with that

mousetail

@pxeger This is the main advantage newer languages have over older languages. Doesn't last long though

Sandbox Posts

20:15

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Repeat Values In Array code-golf array Given two arrays of non-negative integers \$A = [A_1,A_2,\ldots,A_n]\$ and \$R = [R_1,R_2,\ldots,R_n]\$ which are equal in length, return a list which has the element \$A_1\$ repeated \$R_1\$ times, then element \$A_2\$ repeated \$R_2\$ times, all the way up...

pxeger

20:35

What do you call a non-digraph or non-multigraph? Monograph has a different meaning.

emanresu A

21:02

Unigraph?

Radvylf Programs

21:19

Aha! I have finally fixed a major issue with SOCK²

Looks like actually, my school district was only half of the problem

emanresu A

Nice :D

Is it stable enough to sell now?

Radvylf Programs

Seems like Crostini has some issues dealing with IPv6, once I disabled it, the proxying is working fine

@emanresuA Possibly. But I just had a job interview today, and I can't say for certain, but I might not need the SOCK² money soon :D

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