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Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Fibonacci word fractal, Longest N-Sum Sub-Array
 
 
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3:22 AM
yesterday, by Wheat Wizard
It's like going to a pizzeria because you want a burger. Maybe you can order a pizza that's similar enough to a burger that you will be happy, but you are better off looking for a place that makes burgers.
Well the jokes on you
because Domino's has launched a burger-style pizza range
Get gamed on nerd :p
 
3:58 AM
Hmm, should we turn this into a challenge? Golf an unstoppable virus?
 
 
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5:38 AM
ugh, I forgot I had postponed Windows updates for a week, a week ago
 
 
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11:02 AM
@lyxal Of all of the cheeses to use on a pizza, American plastic burger cheese has to be the worst choice
You might as well just use cling film melted with a hairdryer
 
Gotta keep the taste authentic tho 😎
 
 
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12:13 PM
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A: Nominations for Language of the Month, Take 2

Wheat WizardElm Elm is a purely functional programming language for the browser. It's very similar to Haskell but is designed to be easy for Javascript programmers to pick up. Why Elm? Elm isn't very used on this site, but it has some potential. Elm shares a lot in common with Haskell but while Haskell has a...

 
 
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1:38 PM
@lyxal
i just converted "never gonna give you up" to midi
and imported it into jummbox
im exporting it
 
oo jummbox
i wish itd run in my browser y_y i have to use ultravanilla beepbox
 
@thejonymyster yeah that got updated a lot since i last saw it
 
CMP: assuming that, for some reason, vectorizing is off the table; is it reasonable for arithmetic performed on a list to coerce the list into a number by its length?
 
I'd do what Ash did and use its sum
Adding a sum is a very common operation
Adding a length, not so much
 
@lyxal here it is
can y'all understand the words lol
i should upload the full version to youtube lol
 
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2:17 PM
@NoHaxJustRadvylf ah yeah, good point
ty
 
 
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5:31 PM
So...Go and OCI consider Wasm to be its own architecture, just like amd64 or ARM. Makes sense. But, since they also both specify an OS, JavaScript is now considered an OS.
We've finally done it. [something].js is now an operating system :p
 
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Bit behind schedule, smh :P
There are a lot of XKCDs structured that way, aren't there--a timeline of something, extended into the future with increasingly silly [citation needed] predictions.
 
 
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6:45 PM
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Q: Program a compiler compiler

BenjiProgram a compiler compiler Write a program, function, or likewise that takes in a BNF-like grammar specification(see below) and outputs a program or function in a language of your choice that takes strings as input and returns truthy if that string is parseable with the specified grammar, and fa...

 
7:25 PM
i just had the best idea for the worst language ever: XMLang
 
7:48 PM
@Seggan AHHHHHHHH
 
@Seggan i really hope division is "div"
 
8:29 PM
@Seggan Hmm... what about
 
oh i didnt know it didnt like nested brackets oops
 
<expression arity="2" operator="*">
    <operand>
        <variable>num</variable>
    </operand>
    <operand>
        <call function="factorial">
            <argument>
                <expression arity="2" operator="-">
                    <operand>
                        <variable>num</variable>
                    </operand>
                    <operand>
                        <number>1</number>
                    </operand>
                </expression>
            </argument>
        </call>
 
heart eyes ^
 
no
 
8:55 PM
@Seggan this is hilarious
@DLosc a terrible idea executed to perfection, as djikstra would say, haha
it's almost like a lisp
 
@AviFS D:
 
@DLosc that's a bad thing?
i mean it's like a lisp, but worse, right :p
 
Sounded like you were saying Lisp is a terrible idea executed to perfection. I was objecting to the implication Lisp = terrible. (Says the guy who probably wouldn't want to write a practical program in any Lisp dialect, so maybe you've got a point...)
 
@DLosc haha, no they were two separate thoughts. i loved your take on the xml thing, but i'm saying it's a horrendous idea to begin with :p
independently, it feels lispy
in case anyone was wondering, here's what it looks like as a lisp:
(expr 2 *
    (op (var num))
    (op (call factorial (arg
                (expr 2 -
                    (op (var num))
                    (op (const 1))
                )))
    )
)
Here it is without changing the indentation structure: Github Gist
 
9:15 PM
Ah, I see. Yeah, it does make some sense to compare it to Lisp, since both of them are rather transparent syntaxes for representing abstract syntax trees.
 
@DLosc My thought exactly! And since Lispified this ends up more verbose than any Lisp I know, the "best" way to make this XML lang is prob just to change the syntax of Scheme, haha
Assuming you wanted efficiency, which is prob not an esolanger's idea of a good time anyway
Honestly, has anyone else wondered about HTML being written with Lispier syntax? Those closing tags always seem like such a waste!
And it's a one-to-one mapping. I just don't understand XML.
 
@AviFS I really like that idea, actually
I hate XML, but haven't been able to think of anything better than significant whitespace to replace it with
 
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Ooh wait, really? I actually did an exercise where I re-wrote a simple webpage with as many different equiv syntaxes as I could think of.
Trying to find it!
There was also a bracket-based one.
 
9:41 PM
@AviFS HyperText Markup Lisp
 
yes
please
 
Honestly, something like this might be rather trivial to implement in a Lisp flavor like Racket, which prides itself on easy creation of domain-specific sublanguages.
 
att
10:05 PM
the future of html?
 
I dunno. I played around with it a bit, and the main problem I can see is that you can't easily tell by looking at a closing paren what function (tag, in this case) it's closing. Which can be a problem with programming languages, too; I've seen code where } is followed by a comment indicating which loop it's the end of.
Yes, having to type the tag name twice is a pain, but it makes the code (markup) more readable later.
 
What if there was an optional syntax where you could do something like (bold ... :bold)?
Like some sort of optional prefix that would only be syntactically valid if it matched the opening tag
 
Could work. QBasic has something like that with for loops: you can close a FOR i loop with either NEXT or NEXT i (and as far as I've seen, everyone uses NEXT i except in code golf)
 
ooh
that's actually pretty smart
even makes it easier to read out loud
 
Yep
 
10:28 PM
clever
 
@DLosc I actually really like that, it also makes it convenient to do continues at any level without that weird label syntax
 
While I was experimenting with Lisp HTML syntax using the login page of the site I'm working on as an example, I discovered and fixed a syntax error in the page. Who says TNB keeps you from getting actual work done? :P
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Hm, interesting! But it only works with for loops, sadly. (Also, I don't think QBasic supports this.)
OTOH, in QBasic you can just use GOTO if you need the equivalent of continue, so... ;P
 
 
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11:52 PM
@DLosc you can also close multiple loops with FOR i: FOR j: NEXT i,j
 
LYAL?
 

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