The Nineteenth Byte

12:53 AM

I wonder, can we multiply ascii-piet byte counts by log256(40) since they only use 40 chars?

@DialFrost Answers is not the way to rep :P

I've posted ~160 questions for roughly 30k rep vs ~800 answers for around 20k rep

@Zionmyceliaadamancy lol problem is i never get any good challenge ideas, idek how yall can produce so many challenges

I've kinda burned out on challenges

@AidenChow I see patterns in things in everyday life, browse OEIS, etc.

Uni is both a blessing and a curse for challenge ideas :P

like once in a while i get a sudden spark of inspiration but otherwise i cant really think of anything good

1:00 AM

Ah well, I have 69/100 on Socratic so I'm gonna leave that for a while

nice

Keep in mind tho, that of all of the "ideas" I have for challenges, maybe 1 in 5 ever gets developed into a challenge, and only 1 in 3 of those are posted

@Steffan da hell does log256 have anything to do with anything

never seen that used before

@AidenChow There are 256 available bytes

@Zionmyceliaadamancy yes im aware

but like

log_256??

whats that supposed to do

like brainfuck only use +-,><.[]

so log_256(8) ????????

doesnt make any sense

1:04 AM

The better scaling factor is log_2

why do u have to scale the byte count by anything??

@AidenChow If you only use 8 characters (or 40), then the amount of info that one character encodes is substantially less than in a language which uses 256 characters. For example, you can encode each bf command as 3 bits, so an argument can be made that each bf program should only be counted by scaling it to the bit level

so u saying that i can have 0.665241011861... bytes???

da hell

thats like super confusing lol

@AidenChow Not exactly, but you can "scale" the byte count according to that

ok well im not gonna do that, too weird for me

1:16 AM

@Zionmyceliaadamancy um did you change your name?

lol

u changed ur profile pic too

@DialFrost Nope, I'm a brand new user here

Unrelated, but anyone know what happened to caird?

Unrelated String

i sure don't

ye he gone

@Zionmyceliaadamancy "brand new user" with 50k rep lol

1:28 AM

@AidenChow Didn't you see? Some girl named "caird" gave me all her rep in bounties over the last month or so

Besides, I'm obviously not caird, she used a dog with a SE hat as pfp, my dog clearly has a santa hat

@Zionmyceliaadamancy yes that makes a lot of sense!

Idk why y'all are making a fuss over zionmycelia having speedran 50k reps. It's a completely normal occurrence that happens at least once a Tuesday.

@Zionmyceliaadamancy Oh, I see. And somehow the mods didn't notice :P

As I said, happens at least once a Tuesday. Nothing to notice

@lyxal i see... looks at this quarter's leaderboard

hyper-neutrino

1:33 AM

@lyxal does it happen on days other than tuesdays, or does it sometimes happen more than once on a given tuesday but only on tuesdays

Only on Tuesdays

50k rep all of a sudden on any other day (e.g Wednesday) is suspicious

Every Tuesday, we learn when the next Tuesday will be. For some reason, it's always consistent. We need a ~~worse~~ better calendar.

why tuesday of all days?

@lyxal Sus!

@AidenChow It just do be

1:35 AM

@Zionmyceliaadamancy funny

I loved the prev name :(

@lyxal today is friday tho, you telling me i havent noticed some user gaining so much rep this past week?

@AidenChow like you know half-byte languages like halfwit and risky? they have 16 chars in their codepage because log256(16) = 0.5

@Steffan but like... i dont understand what log has to do with this at all, whats the reason why u use log and not anything else?

I don't know either

cool!

1:38 AM

Ask someone who knows math :P

id go for roots instead

Jun 27 at 17:02, by pxeger

half-byte languages don't use half the codepage of full-byte languages, they use the square root of it (since there are 256 bytes, that's 1/16th)

yeah

half byte encoding means you have half as many bits

i.e. digits

half as many digits of a number is the square root (basically)

10^2 = 100

then you remember that its indexing at 0, so you subtract 1

and you get

9 => 99

thats the intuition for me anyway :P

@AidenChow it's actually Saturday and of course you didn't notice because it happened on a Tuesday.

@lyxal time zones but ok

1:42 AM

exactly

So it makes sense when you consider what logarithms are: Reverse exponentiation. log_{x}(x^y) = y

@Steffan insert segue into 3b1b link relevant to topic

using log2 instead of log256 will give you the number of bits each char will take up

and 2^n would be the same as the number of bit combinations possible with n bits

Jun 25 at 9:21, by caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Y'all want me to change to "Zion mycelia adamancy"?

1:57 AM

@Steffan noooooooooooo :(

At least he's changing it back in a month

Jun 25 at 17:50, by Zion mycelia adamancy

Me too :P

2:26 AM

@DialFrost FWIW, while I'm happy to change away from caird every once in a while, I'll always go back to it eventually :P

@Steffan *she, for the moment, if you don't mind

2:53 AM

@hyper-neutrino Would you mind putting Piet LoTM on upcoming events?

hyper-neutrino

yeah sure

@Zionmyceliaadamancy "for the moment"?

Now I don't know if you're a he, she, or temporarily she, or what :P

3:12 AM

thats just life sometimes

3:24 AM

@Steffan If you find it confusing, I'd really recommend this video (it's about gender in VRChat rather than just gender in particular, but outside of that context it's still really good)

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3:46 AM

@DLosc @emanresuA @thejonymyster Added Unicode support for (non-negated) character classes in Regenerate.

:D yahoo

As a Regenerate n00b why not negated ones?

Planned feature or ASCII-only

yesterday, by DLosc

@pxeger I guess, as long as you're willing to deal with a 144,000-character character class potentially. :P

@RadvylfPrograms regenerate is reverse regex, so any character that can potentially be matched is actually being generated by the program

Yeah it prolly wouldn't be super useful, but still :p

3:48 AM

so [^] is all of unicode :P

I figured keeping the negated ones ASCII-only wasn't likely to prevent anyone from doing something they needed to do, and might help in some cases. If I'm proven wrong, I'll consider changing it in the future.

@thejonymyster Nw I at least know that much about it :p (in fact I might submit a form 827 since I had a similar idea too but never bothered implementing it)

~~tbh weve probably all had the idea at some point~~

@RadvylfPrograms I'll gladly give you 30% of my earnings :D

im actually working on a thing i find interesting but i haven't defined any of the parts that make it work yet

3:50 AM

@DLosc Now all we need to do is (profit)+

@RadvylfPrograms Stonks

CMC: Repeatedly print 30% of that ^

@thejonymyster idea is this: a binary tree with a pointer on it. pointer goes down the tree, choosing either the left or right branch based on (tbd). another thing that can happen is that the pointer can optionally chop off the branch its on, keeping the bottom half and deleting the top. it does this when (tbd). finally, whenever the pointer reaches a leaf, a copy of the entire tree is pasted at the pointer, so that it can continue downward

@RadvylfPrograms Hmm, can I raise your share to 1/3? It'll make the math easier. :P

~~ive been reading a lot of ais523~~

3:54 AM

@thejonymyster Hmm, I agree: that sounds interesting, but I don't know how it would actually work.

me neither, im still stuck trying to implement the mechanics of it

js is a rough language to do this in

@RadvylfPrograms Okay, that wasn't too hard after all

@DLosc first instinct for me is to have there be a "program" which loops, either going left, right, or cutting

4:23 AM

@DialFrost fun fact: caird's old name came from a compressed jelly string.. Radvylf decided to make a jelly string decompressor, and when he tried running it over the string which should decompress to "caird cairdcoinheringaahing", it decompressed to "Zion mycelia adamancy"

caird decided to leave cgcc

and someone made a new account with the other name

Print all terminating decimal numbers

4:56 AM

js is being a menace to my binary tree thing

anyone have any lang recommendations before i go insane and try doing it with regex loops

preferably something really good with arrays - aw shid do i gotta sit down and learn apl

Btw does anyone here know how to add a flair to a google doc that will update by itself

5:31 AM

@thejonymyster k

or rust if you want some more "control"

or python

i hate programming so much

but also thank u for the recs

or just do it in minecraft lol

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7:11 AM

@RadvylfPrograms tl;dw

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7:54 AM

@Zionmyceliaadamancy the point is that questions aren't easy rep. you get 7.5 times as many upvotes for a question because they're 7.5 times harder.

9:42 AM

@Steffan I'm genderfluid

10:17 AM

CMQ: Would a "transpose an infinite matrix" challenge be a dupe?