The Nineteenth Byte

user

12:09

@emanresuA frick apple, just don’t bother with the webkit stuff

m90

@graffe x86-64 machine code, 14 bytes: 31 C0 F7 F6 F7 D0 F3 0F BD C0 8B 04 87 C3 -- in assembly: f: xor eax, eax; div esi; not eax; lzcnt eax, eax; mov eax, [rdi+4*rax]; ret (standard calling convention: takes address of array of numbers, n, x in RDI, ESI, EDX, and returns in EAX)

Try it online!

graffe

12:45

@m90 very nice!

user

12:59

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, how do you even combine anarchy and communism?

Do you go with anarchy first and then a group of people decides to do communism in their corner?

caird coinheringaahing

@user en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism

Basically, communism without the government

user

TIL

lyxal

13:13

Fun and off topic fact: I recently hit 2 million views of my photos on google maps

Which I think is very cool

ATaco

Hello world now works

Language is basically done

user

Cool, which language?

ATaco

Funky 3

I’m writing the documentation alongside the language, so that I don’t skip the documentation this time

user

Looking at the website for Funky2 rn, is this more a practical language?

The website looks very professional btw

ATaco

It’s a practical language by design, although with some quirks.

Also it looks good because it’s using a wiki base lmao

user

13:29

I should use that, I'm working on a site rn and it looks awful lol

ATaco

My intentions with the third version is to make it compile to actual binaries, which i feel will lend it more legitimacy, as well as improving compiling and execution speed.

lyxal

13:45

@ATaco hands off my information :p

Neil

14:36

wait, did the rep badge grow a + sign recently?

Ginger

Alright, I've started OLIMAR using my new library

I'll run it for one week, and if at the end of that time it hasn't crashed I'll publish the library to PyPI

Sandbox Posts

14:50

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

PI Approximation calculator Make a function called main that prints numbers that, when divided, approximate PI. For example, 22/round(22/pi) = pi. For all numbers from 1 to 2^30, output the numerators of successively closer rational approximations of pi. Reference math: i/pi ~= x i/round(x) ~= pi...

PyGamer0

16:27

@raspiduino are you a fusion of raspberry pi and arduino?

ophact

Someone please post a question called "You've earned a bonus of 100 reputation because we trust you on other sites in the network", then make someone answer it, then put a 100 rep bounty on that answer.

Aiden Chow

^ and can i be the one getting the +100 rep :P

PyGamer0

and i will take a 50% cut out of that :P

ophact

@AidenChow sure if you post a good answer

let me think of a good CGCC challenge that could have that title

that is difficult enough that I might award a 100 rep bounty to one of the answers

Aiden Chow

@ophact :| damn i actually have to do work to get the +100, that wasnt part of the deal! /s

PyGamer0

16:35

but my 50% cut is :P

so you must give me 50 rep :P

ophact

not too sure about that either

there isn't even such a question yet

if someone does get 100 rep that person could fool others into believing that they just joined the site

PyGamer0

in flax, 24 secs ago, by PyGamer0

v0.1.5

Aiden Chow

@ophact but, hypothetically, if there was a question like that, i would gladly volunteer for the 100 rep bounty :)

ophact

once again, you do have to do some work to get the bounty

PyGamer0

uh soo i found this:

Aug 17, 2021 at 13:46, by Redwolf Programs

I don't think this needs to be moved, but now that PyGamer0's posted the ingredients of every emoticon that does or can ever exist, this conversation should probably end :p

pxeger

16:45

@PyGamer0 and?

raspiduino

@PyGamer0 yes :))

How can you see me even if I don't join the room?

Aiden Chow

@raspiduino we can see ur profile pic on top right

PyGamer0

Sep 1, 2021 at 5:28, by Razetime

flexedraj

did razetime just (kind of) guess flax's name?!

@raspiduino cool, how it is like to be a fusion :P

New Posts

17:33

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Q: I Need Moore(less) Chips

If you wanted to compute a very large long problem, that on a machine that you could buy today for an inflation adjusted price, will take some amount of years/decades. The issue is, if you only have that budget, and so can only purchase one machine. So if you purchase the machine now, it may actu...

user

18:19

So I'm working on an English assignment where we have to write a commencement speech. Here's my draft, could someone help me out? I'd appreciate any help making it worse than it already is

Neil

ugh, Python is weird

user

What did it do now?

Neil

sorry, my fault, trying to time something, but got really unlucky with the noise

there was this code where H is a monotonically decreasing list and the only reference is min(H) which is therefore always equal to H[-1] and therefore there's no point H even being a list

pxeger

> Lionel’s last name was Tidi

To reduce the risk of the audience not getting the joke, could you say "not Messi"

Neil

but for some reason when I made the change the code always seemed to take longer

when in fact I was just being unlucky

user

18:25

@pxeger Hmm yeah I should do that

pxeger

> You might think this is where Lionel turned it around, worked hard, and eventually started his own company to become a gazillionaire. If you did guess that, you were pretty close. Lionel’s dad did that

you've already used the "you might think this is where ..." trope; I wonder if you can come up with a funnier way of wording it

something like:

> Now thankfully, Mr Tidi here turned it around, worked hard, and eventually started his own company to become a gazillionaire - if, by Mr Tidi, you mean Lionel's dad.

user

@Neil The suspense is killing me, what happened?

@pxeger Thanks, that is a better way of putting it. I typed this all up in one period because I couldn't come up with an actual speech

Neil

@user when I ran the code a lot of times, it transpired that the time it took was just very noisy

user

Oh, that's what you meant by noise

pxeger

> Hands shaking, partly because of nervousness and partly to get rid of the water

"Wringing his hands"?

user

18:32

...Yeah, I was not thinking

I think I might turn it in like this, with some more weird grammar and occasional fake posh language. It's better if the jokes are awful because that'll just mean the speech has gotten close to maximum badness

pxeger

Are you handing in the speech but not performing it?

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@pxeger i wouldn't have even suspected a joke if you hadn't pointed this out

user

@pxeger Oh no, this is just one of those pointless English assignments that go nowhere. Everyone's writing it but I doubt anyone will perform it

pxeger

18:50

@user It's a nice idea, and I can see it working, but it will be very execution-dependent (relying on comedic timing, intonation, etc.). But I'd be concerned about its effectiveness when just read as text by a bored English teacher

user

True, my teacher's only comment on it was that it'd be more appropriate to use a story about myself

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing it was always accuracy for me. If the question gives "g=9.8", then you have to give your answer to 1 decimal place or you'll be expelled

user

To be honest, I'm mainly doing this because it's way easier to make up something crazy than it is to craft a well-written speech. If there's anything off, I can just say "Ahaha, that was totally intended to add to the stupidity/craziness of it"

AP exams only have a few free response questions where you put in the numbers yourself, and I think they're pretty lenient about too much precision and stuff like that

tbf I took all but one of my APs during the pandemic so they were much easier than normal

Kinda unrelated but I recently came upon this C++ library for typesafe units with no extra runtime overhead and it's unbelievably cool

Would be nice if they let you write C++ to calculate your answers on AP tests :P

pxeger

When your language is so bad that its build system is so complex that its config files count as a language according to GitHub

user

(SBT isn't classified as its own language by GitHub but it's complex as hell)

pxeger

19:04

Go does a fair amount of weird shit, but one thing it definitely gets right is its build system

user

19:17

Bazel?

pxeger

Go doesn't use Bazel by default

Bazel is, AFAICT, only used inside Google

but it seems to work for them so...

user

Pretty sure other people use Bazel, I've heard good things about it

The one used inside Google is some anagram of that (or I guess it's the other way around, Bazel is an anagram of the other one)

pxeger

Blaze?

yeah there's some kind of relationship like that

bazel.build

> { Fast, Correct } — Choose two

lmao, they left out the other thing that's normally included in the set: "Cheap"

user

Oh huh, the go executable itself has a build command

pxeger

> Scalable

oh, yet another project describing itself as "scalable" when what they mean is "works at large scale". Scalable should includes small-scale too!

3

user

19:22

It's just one of those things that mean nothing

Advanced, scalable, executable, intuitive

pxeger

If I can't build an empty project (which should take exactly 0s) with Bazel with <5m of fucking about and <10ms of running time, then it's not scalable

Wezl 'l o - o l'

20:10

I want to bounty something. What deserves?

pxeger

self-nomination, if that's allowed

if not, I have one I'm thinking of but I can't find it atm

Wezl 'l o - o l'

am approve of self-nomination on self-reference question

wait a sec while I spaghetti

pxeger

while you spaghetti?

Wezl 'l o - o l'

to be clear, make spaghetti not spaghettify

aaah I forgot to specify that it's for that answer it's been too long

hopefully the "reward an existing answer" will stop any confusion

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20:46

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Q: An ASCII self-referential sequence

The sequence A109648 starts with the following numbers 53, 51, 44, 32, 53, 49, 44, 32, 52, 52, 44, 32, 51, 50, 44, 32, 53, 51, 44, 32, 52, 57, 44, 32, 52, 52, 44, 32, 51, 50, 44, 32, 53, 50, 44, 32, 53, 50, 44, 32, 52, 52, 44, 32, 51, 50, 44, 32, 53, 49, 44, 32, 53, 48, 44, 32, 52, 52, 44, 32, 51...

code-golf sequence

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so you're spaghetting
to spaghet is an act in which the spaghetter makes the spaghettee

Wezl 'l o - o l'

lol alright

Radvylf Programs

@user I'm not

→ 4 bags of industrial-grade sprinkles moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

emanresu A

21:16

tfw people golf in ES3

Ooh, I have exactly 26k rep

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nice

Radvylf Programs

That's like, 1000 rep for every letter that could be in your name

emanresu A

I used to have like 27.4k lol but with desmos LoTM and another deadlineless bounty, I've spent a lot.

github.com/Vyxal/Sandbox/issues/17

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21:36

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Q: Is this a Jordan matrix?

Background A Jordan matrix is a block-diagonal matrix where each block on the diagonal has the structure of $$ \begin{bmatrix} \lambda & 1 & 0 & \cdots & 0 \\ 0 & \lambda & 1 & \cdots & 0 \\ \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\ 0 & 0 & 0 & ...

code-golf math decision-problem matrix linear-algebra

Radvylf Programs

22:27

Nooo way I just discovered an extremely cursed "feature" in rSN

Wezl 'l o - o l'

Sep 1, 2021 at 1:45, by DLosc

Twitch Plays Code Golf?

Radvylf Programs

It would take a bit of explaining to describe how it works, but basically you can make a function where it's argument is a variable in another function

So when you call it, instead of providing the argument as a variable in the function's scope, it changes something somewhere else

emanresu A

22:46

@RadvylfPrograms So... closures? Nice job accidentally implementing them lol

Radvylf Programs

No, nothing like a closure. And rSN already has closures anyway, in two different ways.

Imagine a function f, where f(2) would change some variable x in another function into 2.

Then run f without any arguments

emanresu A

What's the result?

Radvylf Programs

Whatever f would normally return

emanresu A

... wouldn't it most likely return undefined?

Or the value it was passed, so in that case still undefined?

This makes sense to me

Something like:

function g () {
  let x = 2

  return {
    get: () => x,
    set: v => x = v
  }
}

Radvylf Programs

@emanresuA It could return whatever you want

@emanresuA No, I mean the argument list of the function contains what's basically a pointer to a variable in another function.

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22:51

oh boy

emanresu A

You have pointers? oh god

he cannot be saved

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more like references i assume

or even bindings

Radvylf Programs

So instead of it seeing x in the argument list and going "okay, so we set x to 2 in this function", it sees a reference to some random variable and goes "okay, so we set xyz to 2 in whatever function xyz is in"

And the best part is that this was entirely unintentional

Ah frick the - being allowed in variable names just wasted me 20m of debugging time because I tried to golf n - 1 to n-1

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nice

Radvylf Programs

I wonder why this isn't a feature other languages have :p

emanresu A

23:03

Maybe don't allow - at the start or end

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or do :)

actually wait no that's actually a good cursed idea

because then you could write n-1 but not n-m

emanresu A

What if, if n-m is not defined, it defaults to n - m

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but you could write n- m which has asymmetrical spaces

it's perfect

Radvylf Programs

@emanresuA I already don't dw

The relevant part of the relevant regex is \.*\w([\w\-'\.]*[\w'])?

Oops I just realized negative numbers don't work

just a sec

emanresu A

Oof

Radvylf Programs

23:13

Okay fixed

hyper-neutrino

23:24

@RadvylfPrograms wait so are you implying that you can declare a function where rather than setting the argument name in the function scope it just alters another variable when you call it and then the function can access that variable...

... instead of the argument being its own thing...

Radvylf Programs

Yes, precisely

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i love this as a cursed language feature but it does worry me that you managed to add it by accident

Radvylf Programs

hyper-neutrino

is it caused by an error in scope management or how did you even manage

emanresu A

Wait waht

Is this... functional???

Radvylf Programs

23:30

~ is the function syntax btw, since -> won't work and I decided | is ugly

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oh boy

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