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lyxal

01:14

@user apparently you're a stakeholder in 100% of web apps

Aiden Chow

02:07

man, its surprisingly difficult to make desmos error based on different inputs of a function, been trying to find suitable builtins for codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/229052/ihateoddnumbers, only been able to find random(n) useful so far (throws an error if n is negative), most other strategies ive tried simply return undefined instead, no actual error :|

Unrelated String

actually a bit surprised desmos has errors considering how much just goes undefined lol

aside from malformed expressions

Aiden Chow

@UnrelatedString lol yeah, spent forever going through all the different builtins to find that random surprisingly works. i have a new idea of using "Cannot access coordinates of a number" error, if i manage to use it, it would prob save a few bytes over random()

problem is piecewise cant branch to point and number

Unrelated String

ooh

hmm

don't suppose there's any chance you could, like, iterate .x on something

Aiden Chow

02:24

@UnrelatedString huh wait .x.x actually works

Unrelated String

oh wait yeah you can just do that straight up if it's already a piecewise branching thing lmao

well there we have it

Radvylf Programs

I'm going to have to learn desmos at some point, all I can do with it is graph things and find definite integrals lol

I discovered how to use lists today

Unrelated String

i already forgot everything from the lyal

Aiden Chow

@UnrelatedString oh :(

Unrelated String

:(

Aiden Chow

02:37

well tbh i didnt really teach for that long during the lyal

i basically just went through the real basic stuff

hmm i cant seem to get the .x.x idea to work for some reason

@RadvylfPrograms well im 99% sure desmos will be next months lotm, so theres that :D

unless j-uby gets a couple more upvotes

Aiden Chow

03:12

i really wish desmos had short circuiting evaluation

would make this a lot easier ngl

hyper-neutrino

03:25

huh, apparently a b c (**a _b** c_) is valid HTML and behaves the same way as a b c (**a _b_**_ c_)

this is... annoying cuz node-html-parser doesn't actually handle this correctly and does a b c instead (**a _b c_**)

Aiden Chow

03:43

uh i may be mistaken but isnt there supposed to be a lyal today or no

or maybe still deciding which lang?

hyper-neutrino

yes, there was supposed to be one starting a few hours ago

Aiden Chow

ok, thats what i thought

its between flobnar and bit cycle it looks like?

hyper-neutrino

looks like flobnar and bitcycle are tied for highest unused

yeah.

Aiden Chow

hmm... both seem like interesting 2d langs, gonna be hard to choose i think

huh i just realized this was a thing: esolangs.org/wiki/Among_Us, ppl can make esolangs out of literally anything it seems like

Unrelated String

that's the idea

the hard part is making them interesting

hyper-neutrino

03:52

it's trivial to roughly fit any broad theme into an esolang if you just map to brainfuck and maybe add some other things

Aiden Chow

04:34

bruuuuuuuuuuuh: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/705710/…

cant believe ppl still posting this kind of stuff lol

Unrelated String

i'm not entirely convinced it's not a troll

but i'm not convinced it's not

*it is

Aiden Chow

"noahs super ark", ok what???

"government has been lying to us since day 1, 0 BC"

Unrelated String

actually no from the tags it has to be a troll

Aiden Chow

this guy is saying that god is a ball of light (the sun?) lmaoooooooo

"All I ask is that my name: Jacquevious Tart III be added as coauthor (or author if you are generous enough) to the paper."

dude that cannot be a real name, wtf

damn it got deleted hella fast

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05:12

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Q: Is this expression Python 2/3 safe?

Given an expression like 4 / 2 + 3, determine whether the expression has the same value in Python 2 and Python 3. Recall that in Python 2 division rounds down (so that 5 / 2 -> 2), whereas in Python 3 division returns a float (so that 5 / 2 -> 2.5). For simplicity's sake, we will only consider ex...

Sisyphus

@NewPosts nevermind this is too simple

Aiden Chow

@Sisyphus man, i was gonna try to do it in desmos, definitely not simple there

rip

Sisyphus

Actually shouldn't be

I've added a 5 / 2 * 2 which fails the 'simple' algo (eval%1 == 0)

@AidenChow back up :P

Unrelated String

so you do have to actually check if the divisor evenly divides the dividend

Sisyphus

Yes, that's what I'd like to force

And 4 / 4 / 4 is also a nasty case I think

Unrelated String

05:21

because you actually have to check two divisions

as well as actually evaluate a quotient

versus just checking divisibility

Aiden Chow

just posted an answer, idk if its right tho :P

ok bruh what is that eval wizardry, unrelated string

Unrelated String

you know how you're checking the equality of two evaluated python expressions, in python

Aiden Chow

05:37

yeah...

ah ok i see how it works now after the syntax highlighting

smart

Unrelated String

lol thanks

lyxal

06:56

Aight which one of you nerds italicised the bench?

Can't go 5 minutes around here without kids wrapping seats in  smh

Aiden Chow

07:47

hooooly crap, i finally got a draft of a working (i think, at least) answer for the python 2/3 expression challenge

Unrelated String

in desmos? nice

Aiden Chow

@UnrelatedString yeah

its pretty much as long as i expected it to be

Unrelated String

f

Aiden Chow

hmm wait i found a golf

actually its shorter than i initially expected after the golf lol

i was thinking around 150 bytes, the program is 122 bytes

welp at least its not too far off from the haskell answer, yay

wait just found another golf, down to 113 now

at least its not last place anymore :P

PyGamer0

09:34

what is today's lyal?

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 i have no idea

but its between bitcycle and flobnar, both at +7 score

i think dlosc has some experience in bitcycle, we can do that if dlosc is available

or joking

also im less than 100 rep from 3k, i can nearly taste it :P

SegFaultPlus4

11:03

Wordle 312 1/6

🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

just came back to say that

Ginger

12:06

hI

Bgil Midol

hi

Ginger

today I want to make a BCT interpreter in makina

wish me luck

memes

graffe

12:30

hi all

Ginger

hi

Jo King

13:06

@JoKing looks like no-one else could either, ha. at least i didn't get to miss two langs i was looking forward too

i didn't know chat made the ping noise when you replied to yourself

lyxal

it does

you're only finding this out now?

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Ginger

sometimes I feel like a monkey pounding on the sides of the giant pile of machinery that is HTML/CSS/JS

Jo King

i'm sure i've noticed before, maybe i'm rediscovering it. at the very least, you're not really meant to reply to yourself, so not that surprising

lyxal

tell that to my fridge each morning

it lets me simulate replying to myself all the time

Ginger

there's a bunch of lore there

Jo King

13:09

@lyxal oh, i thought you were talking about pounding on it like a monkey

Ginger

sure that happens too

lyxal

nah, I was talking about how it somehow has janky SE chat integration

Ginger

I love how some subtle bug that I can't seem to find is causing my code to fail silently

CMQ: What are yall's thoughts on my proposed BMG-bot? I want to make sure it's not a stupid idea before I go to the trouble of making a meta post

Basically, during BMG a bot (maybe GingerBot, maybe some other one) would every 30 minutes search TNB for old CMCs and repost them

it would only do this if there was activity in the room and nobody else had posted a CMC in the last 15 minutes or so

Bgil Midol

+1

Ginger

I'd also like to find a less... janky bot framework to write it in

preferably in Python

lyxal

13:20

Bold of you to assume that BMGs aren't dead

Ginger

This bot would help keep them alive

that's why I suggested it, in part

I need more datapoints

onioni?

lyxal

I could generate a bunch for you

Ginger

not what I meant

I need more people's feedback on this proposal

lyxal

there'd have to be a new spark of interest in BMG

Ginger

*pulls out flint and steel*

lyxal

13:25

it's been several months since a BMG was properly hosted

I don't know if it's worth the trouble making a bot for an event that just doesn't have enough momentum anymore

Ginger

give it more momentum

I still have this nuke, I hear those are great at momentum

lyxal

reviving it would take more than just a bot

Ginger

well?

lyxal

it would have to be run less frequently for a start - too much of a good thing spoiled it

Radvylf Programs

xD

lyxal

13:27

good job gamer

Ginger

the timing on Radvylf's arrival

Radvylf Programs

Well I guess they figured things out, time to send an AbortSignal to my principal

Ginger

the exact second you said it would take more then a bot Radvylf logs on

lyxal

ikr

Ginger

Radvylf, what's your opinion?

Radvylf Programs

13:28

@RadvylfPrograms Actually never mind, seems my principal actually got involved. That was surprisingly quick.

@Ginger I don't really think it's necessary

Ginger

oop, brb

Radvylf Programs

One nice thing about BMG is that we can adjust the pace according to how many people are doing it, and how fast they're doing problems

lyxal

and also, it's not the posting of CMCs that make for successful BMGs

it's the solutions to the CMCs

Radvylf Programs

We can make a bot for those too

lyxal

glhf getting it to answer sanely

Radvylf Programs

13:32

We can make a bot to moderate it and make sure it doesn't start smapping bad answers

> smapping

Memes in 2025 be like

lyxal

I... don't even know what it was you intended to say by smapping

one would think it'd be posting

Radvylf Programs

"spamming" lol

lyxal

ah

@RadvylfPrograms fair enough

that could actually feasibly work given the right prompts

but glhf getting it to actually golf its answers

I've tried and tried to get codex to golf stuff

it never does do

@RadvylfPrograms a GHS NHS inductee? Does that make you a HS(G + N) inductee?

Radvylf Programs

GN(HS)₂

lyxal

looking at that I have no clue what it means

Radvylf Programs

13:39

It's a chemical formula :p

lyxal

and I've only just realised that unlike comments, chat messages don't have a 15 char min

Radvylf Programs

f

lyxal

I got really confused as to how chat allowed you to send it until I remembered that I was being a dumbass

3

gosh fricking dang it

ofc you gonna mock me with that 1 char post

Radvylf Programs

12 mins ago, by lyxal

ikr

this you? :p

lyxal

shuddup I got my forms of SE interaction mixed up for a moment :p

Radvylf Programs

13:47

I'm so worried I'm going to run out of time for this presentation. I have 8 minutes, and 16 slides.

And it's a topic I'm comfortable enough with that I can talk about it instead of just reciting memorized words

Ginger

total or remaining?

lyxal

8 minutes to make 16 slides or 8 minutes to present 16 slides?

Radvylf Programs

Total

@lyxal Second one

Ginger

well if you can talk about it then you can just use TTS

wide brain

Radvylf Programs

You try presenting about the various effects of capitalism on individuals and how worker co-ops are a possible solution (but with limitations!) in 8 minutes >:|

lyxal

13:48

wait run out of time?

Radvylf Programs

Yep

lyxal

tf kinda content you got on those slides?

that's like a whole fricking essay

Radvylf Programs

Well not much, they're basically just the background for me talking

lyxal

a fricking TED talk

Ginger

a RED talk

lyxal

13:49

thain't a presentation that's a fricking address to the UN

Radvylf Programs

Welcome to AP Seminar

lyxal

Well if you've got too much content, just use Jelly to compress it

and present the compressed strings

ez

Radvylf Programs

This is a funny video I found last night:

RIP AP Seminar Students

►

Romanp

gotta learn to speak in base-256

Radvylf Programs

One of the comments is like, "you don't pass AP Seminar, you survive it" and that's true

But gtg

Ginger

13:51

gl

@Romanp you mean you don't gzip-compress everything you say?

Romanp

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Q: Convert To Shorthand Part 2

Part 1 of the challenge revolved around converting the letters into specific unicode characters. You may or may not use your same code from Part 1 for conversion. In any case, all code written for this Part must be in the same file, whose length will be considered for evaluation. Part 1 was inten...

code-golf ascii-art unicode substitution

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Sequence of integers not the sum of powers of earlier terms code-golf sequence number Starting with 1, output the sequence of integers which cannot be represented as the sum of powers of earlier terms. Each previous term can be used at most once, and the exponents must be non-negative integers. T...

Razetime

14:25

Any feedback?

Adám

@Razetime i.

Radvylf Programs

14:58

Finished presentation, I think I did well

Razetime

@Adám yep i stole i.

Ginger

15:54

Elon Musk is buying Twitter

Radvylf Programs

I wrote this about it for my business class:

gist.github.com/Radvylf/2295574a55f9c9334ca132d6d769278d

My favorite bits are

> This has come as a surprise to many, who, used to Musk's absurdist and often unintentional humor

> It's unclear whether this is a joke, or a serious proposition, as the two are often of identical commercial viability in Musk's case.

Ginger

> h

Radvylf Programs

What is that for

Ginger

ask GingerBot, not me

Radvylf Programs

random letter spam is the definiton of uninteresting

Ginger

16:00

pxeger

16:28

@Ginger Today in yesterday's news?

Aiden Chow

lol someone just upvoted like 10 of my answers, tf

i mean ill take it, im at 3k rep now :D

pxeger

you might get "-100 serial voting reversed" though

Aiden Chow

that would be sad

ophact