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12:00 AM
and here i thought fridge filters tasting jank was a uniquely american phenomenon
 
No no not like that
I mean water that you put inside the fridge
 
like water that you have refrigerated
 
And you leave it to cool inside the fridge no lid
 
if you have enough weird shit inside your fridge why do you put water in there without a lid in the first place
 
I don't have weird stuff in there
It just is what it is
 
12:28 AM
@RadvylfPrograms I think I've asked this before but uh when do you think you'll update your chat bio? Surely you aren't that hyped for AoC22 :p
 
12:45 AM
@UnrelatedString Fridge filters taste bad?
 
they can
 
I drink water from the fridge and it's fine
 
rip i lost my consecutive streak of 105 days cuz i was on vacation
literally missed one day
 
yikes
 
12:53 AM
wait how the hell am i on 9 consecutive days
what happened 10 days ago
 
tragic
 
@UnrelatedString how many were you up to?
 
wow my rep graph for code golf looks like an exponential growth graph while my rep for math se looks like an exponential decay graph lol
 
no idea
haven't kept track since i got fanatic
 
1:01 AM
Damn I only have 17 consecutive
Visited 633 days though, can't believe it's been nearly two years
 
wow i only visited 335 days, almost a year tho :)
 
does anyone know what event type 11 (it's called "file added" in the chatbot.py that I use) in chat is? when i upload a file it triggers event type 1 (message sent) not file added
 
1:46 AM
i have 25 consecutive
but only visited 85 days
 
1:59 AM
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tshPalindrome of infinite repeating string (WIP) code-golf decision-problem For given input non-empty string s. You may get an infinite string S by repeating the string s infinite times. Is S equals to reversed S? Test cases a -> True ab -> True abc -> False ababaab -> True ababaa...

 
2:09 AM
lol why are ppl upvoting my wall glitch challenge all of the sudden
just got 3 upvotes today and 1 upvote a few days ago
 
did it by any chance get new answers
 
@UnrelatedString no, but i did edit the question a little
oh yeah that bumped the q, that probably caused the upvotes lmaoo
did not intend to do that, but ill take it :P
 
2:42 AM
lmaooo i just got a 100 for a short essay which basically amounted to me saying that quantum computing is a government lie
actually too funny
 
@AidenChow Since when is quantum computing a government lie?
 
@forest never :P
which is why i find it surprising that i got 100 on the essay
 
Why would you write that in an essay?
Just because?
 
@forest yep, exactly!
dont worry, the essay isnt a big part of my grade lol
so i just felt like doing a bit of trolling
 
Well, if you got a 100 on it anyway...
 
2:53 AM
"In conclusion, this published article is simply another preposterous piece of propaganda
published by the government to maintain their control over the U.S. society. As propaganda is
becoming more and more prominent in both social media and in the physical world, it is
important to take a critical stance at everything you see, so that you don’t fall prey to
misinformation and are able to accurately discern what is real from fake."
still cant believe i got away with writing that about a quantum computing article :P
 
I wonder if your teacher is a conspiracy theorist.
 
@forest :P maybe. but i think its possible that the teacher just didnt care what i wrote as long as i had a convincing argument
 
It's probably a 100 out of respect for being able to spin something so factual into conspiracy
 
 
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4:37 AM
@AidenChow lmao
@ATO lmfao
 
starts a lmao chain
 
not!
ha gottem
 
Please don't.
 
@lyxal dang got me real good there
 
can't be noising like that on me :p
 
4:45 AM
@lyxal uhh what does noising mean in this context
i thought it meant gossiping
 
I meant noise in the context of the lack-of-on-topic crisis lately
 
and even chain-spam that doesn't necessarily induce a change of topic still dilutes the visible content
 
noise also includes:

nice

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Bookmarked Mar 11 at 9:14 by emanresu A

 
after I edited the version in package.json (and it shows the new version on npmjs.com), why does it say the package version doesn't exist when i try to npm install it, and it just uses an older version? it's been like 4 minutes already; is it still cached or smth?
 
npm update?
 
4:52 AM
ah, thanks
I didn't have to do that to get the first version which is a bit weird
 
5:51 AM
why are there so many three-related challenges active
 
3
 
there's four of them unfortunately
 
:(
 
6:05 AM
@UnrelatedString cuz i saw one on the homepage and i thought it would be interesting to answer it in desmos :P
 
nice lol
 
tho idk why there are a bunch of them all of the sudden, someone bored searching "three" maybe?
 
6:51 AM
@pxeger faster than bubble sort it seems: dzaima.github.io/paste/…
i would like to see a visualisation of that sorting
 
I mean why wouldn't you just use the built-in qsort?
 
i am just experimenting
 
 
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8:17 AM
@Adám Would've been a problem for my happy new year string challenge... was too hard for me :(
 
@PyGamer0 For a moment there, I thought Microsoft had released a Go compiler.
 
8:39 AM
@ophact lol i agree, basically all the challenges ive posted, i dont have the foggiest idea of how to solve any of them
 
I'm still struggling with your wall glitch challenge, not sure if it's even possible
requires human reasoning
 
@ophact when i posted the challenge, i thought it wouldve been solved using some variation of some already existing pathfinding alg, but ig thats not the case
 
the part about popping out of walls and wrapping around the grid caused me a problem
I originally thought I could just find a way to go left or right from the beginning, then repeat that the required number of times, then go up or down using the same method
but your last test case prevents me from doing so
 
@ophact ye, i constructed that test case with the specific goal of adding as many wrap-arounds as possible, while preventing every other possible path from working :P
 
I guess you could just repeat the same move multiple times in a row
but...
if going to the left from the right, row 3 ends up at left, row 1 surrounded by walls it will be a problem
 
8:49 AM
eh idrk what u r talking about anymore cuz i didnt even attempt to solve my own challenge, but ig the challenge is more problematic than i initially expected. i kinda expected the challenge to be solved within a week to be completely honest
 
200 rep bounty from JoKing is my motivation for solving the wall glitch
but it's also a fascinating challenge
I would feel extremely accomplished if I finish solving it
 
@ophact wait since when was there a bounty for my challenge
 
since it reached score 15
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Jo King200 rep each for answering good unanswered questions I don't like seeing good questions go unanswered, so I'm offering 200 rep each for valid answers to unanswered non-tips non-koth non-cops-and-robbers questions with a score of 20 15 or above. As of now (April 22, 2022), there are 2 such questio...

 
ok damn did not know that existed, i feel somewhat accomplished and baffled by that ngl
only 2 questions out of thousands... wow!
 
9:01 AM
yeah only the hardest questions get bountied
so you have officially (formally recognized) posted one of the hardest CGCC questions.
 
yay! may have done that unintentionally (i knew the challenge was hard, but not that level of hard), but ill take it! :P
 
i do need to award all my pending bounties at some point
 
9:17 AM
The best unanswered questions are fascinating
 
9:29 AM
@ophact unanswered rn??
wait does this qualify for the bounty: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/107788/…
it has exactly +15 score
not that i would ever attempt it lmao
 
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SaphereyeConvert to Shorthand In order to keep the challenge simple, these are the given rules Take a word as input Remove all vowels from a word, except if present at the beginning or end If a letter comes twice remove one (e.g. Hello -> Hlo) Now substitute the remaining letters with the following symbo...

 
 
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10:53 AM
@AidenChow NOw it does
 
When's the last time there were this few people in TNB?
 
The beginning?
 
Saturday probably
Maybe even Sunday
Definitely 2020 though
Early 2020 was quiet af here
So quiet that redwolf looked like that ^
That sure was a time in code golf history
 
11:24 AM
Early 2020 feels like a long time ago now
 
@pxeger there’s 13 people, that’s not such a small number
 
I think it was 11 when I sent that message
but last year there were regularly >20
 
11:46 AM
maybe it's still holidays for some people?
 
The room has been quiet lately so perhaps people don't feel a need to constantly be in the room
 
i am in a plane
rn
 
What point and normal vector?
 
12:01 PM
@lyxal You fool! Any plane is defined by an infinite number of combinations of points and normal vectors!
 
Well I just want to know the plane
I only need a single normal vector and a point
Any combination will do
I'm not fussy about what coordinates are given
 
hellolleh
TNB is quiet
 
1 hour ago, by pxeger
When's the last time there were this few people in TNB?
Exactly what I said
 
hm
@lyxal (0, 0) for a two-dimensional plane using Cartesian coordinates (with centered origin)
 
12:34 PM
does anyone have access to Steve's texture?
(the Minecraft male default character)
 
You can pretty easily extract it
Find the minecraft JAR, extract it (it's just a zip file), find the resources directory, it will be somewhere logical in there
 
can't bc reasons
I know how to extract it, would've done so already if I could
so does anyone have it?
 
thamks
 
1:28 PM
@lyxal Fine, fine. Updated it :p
 
you saw nothing
I totally didn't accidentally send z while trying to get through the dialogue of a game quicker because I had the wrong window open
 
Kinda sus, prove you're not a Russian tank
 
Can a russian tank play deltarune? I think not
 
Whoa, my original bot battle at the auction KotH was really complex
it had four types of weapons and three upgrade paths for them
Apparently I've always been a fan of complicated KotHs though:
in Discussion between Nathan Merrill and Redwolf Programs, Apr 17, 2018 at 17:40, by Redwolf Programs
@NathanMerrill I like the idea of a complicated challenge. Do you think it would be too much of a problem for it to be complicated? Or should I remove some stuff?
One problem I'm having with Hunter-Gatherer is that the tools don't do enough
Shovels are only used for farming, axes are only used for cutting down trees and fences, and spears are only used for combat
I can probably remove the concept of farmland honestly, and just allow planting directly on grass
 
1:50 PM
does that means bots have to touch grass in your KoTH?
 
Well, just appealed my NHS rejection with my school principal, since the NHS people are being utterly unhelpful.
 
threaten them with a bad time if you don't get in
because if I just had to have a bad time so do they
 
2:50 PM
Now this is the kind of kindergarten I wish I'd gone to
 
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Wheat WizardIn need of title. Note: In the final challenge \$N\$ will be a concrete number (I am thinking about 100), but while this is in the sandbox it is subject to change so I have left it as \$N\$. Currently \$N=103\$ This challenge is based off of a list of \$N\$ Castilian Spanish words and the words...

After 2 years I've finally built up my word list to the size I had originally wanted. It will probably be on its way to being posted so now's a good time to check for feedback again.
 
3:28 PM
Yeah there are
They're in the spanish words, not the latin ones
 
ah, I forgot that diacritcs are small and hard to see
 
hastío, camaleón, otoño, etc.
 
Looks pretty good to me. Seems difficult, but a good challenge.
 
 
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5:26 PM
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Q: Python program to find if the entered number is a friedman number

Sefer ali ÇetinFriedman number is a number that can be expressed by applying basic mathematical operations(^,/,*,+,-) to all it's digits. The operations need not be applied to each individual digit, but all the digits must be involved. That is, 121= 11^2 --> all digits are involved, but 1 & 1 have been clubbed ...

 
5:44 PM
@NewPosts This is an exact copy of the first part of codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/6673/66833
 
@RadvylfPrograms Maybe a pickaxe or hammer tool, for breaking ores and stone walls?
 
@RadvylfPrograms Do you have a meta post or something detailing your current plans for the challenge?
 
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Radvylf ProgramsKoTH: Hunter-Gatherer Society king-of-the-hill, javascript, grid In this challenge, the goal is to write a bot (Javascript function) which survives for as long as possible with its tribe. The bots are placed on an island, with the ability to hunt, gather, farm, and build. Tribes can fight, and th...

 
Aren't more complex koths difficult to balance?
 
Cool, let me check it out
 
5:48 PM
@WheatWizard Yes
And this is probably going to be one of the most complex KotHs on the site
Hence the more than a year I've put off writing the controller and balancing it lol
 
Do you want to put a limit on tribe size? Otherwise, I worry everyone will just end up in the same tribe and the mechanic will be useless.
 
I'm thinking a rule something like "no tribe can contain more bots than there are tribes"
 
Sounds pretty good.
 
6:37 PM
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caird coinheringaahingUnshuffle my poker chips You've been learning how to shuffle poker chips recently, but, as you're still learning, you don't always get the perfect alternating shuffle that you're aiming for. Instead, they often get grouped into pairs or triples of chips between each shuffle. Now, to make things e...

 
7:12 PM
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Bgil MidolFort-Defense KoTH king-of-the-hill There are two teams, red and blue. Each team has a fortress, and if one team's fortress is destroyed, (health reaches zero) the other team wins. The red team attacks the blue team first, blue attacks red, red attacks blue, and so on until one team's fortress is ...

 
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Q: Convert To Shorthand Part 1

SaphereyeThis challenge has been divided into parts. Your goal is to convert a sentence into a form of 'short-hand' For Part 1 these are the goals: Take in 1 word Remove all vowels, except the ones at the beginning and the end If a letter is repeated more than once consecutively, reduce it to only one (e...

 
7:29 PM
CMQ: How do I write a KoTH controller?
 
Well, for your first controller, I'd do something language-specific.
All you really need it to do is make it take a list of bots as classes or objects or whatever, and run a simulation, then print the score. A higher quality controller will print useful and highly configurable debug stuff so people can figure out how their bots are doing.
 
 
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9:07 PM
When's the last time there's been a 2-hour break in TNB?
 
@Romanp It's not very uncommon and there's also no need to send a message just because there hasn't been one in a while.
This room is just quiet sometimes; let it be like that.
 
Yeah, ok. I just hadn't seen it happen yet since I've been watching.
 
Idea: a KOTH where the only input to the bots is a LIDAR-style 2d scan of everything at their eye level
not all that sure how this would work
oh WAIT
@RadvylfPrograms Did I miss NP's cake day?!
 
@Ginger I've had an idea that's a more restricted version of that (the bot has a range sensor that it can point in one direction and get a reading on the distance to the closest object in that direction). Haven't gotten around to developing it past the idea stage, tho.
BTW, I won't be around for LYAL this week, so it may be best not to pick one of my languages. (Unless you want to figure it out for yourselves, of course.)
 
9:25 PM
how does one get the raw body/data from a request in express
i've spent like half an hour just trying to figure out how to console.log the raw data; how could it possibly be this fucking hard
getting the json data is easy with bodyparser.json() but i can't seem to find the actual raw data
actually, i think there's a better way to do what i need, nvm
 
10:17 PM
Huh, TIL "third world country" originally referred to ones that weren't aligned with the US or USSR in the cold war. So Finland is a third-world country, but Ethiopia is not.
Explains why I've never actually heard the term "second world" before
I'd just assumed it was a "first class" vs. "second class" vs. "third class" sort of thing, but with countries instead of sections of the Titanic
 
10:34 PM
How is there not a A000042 challenge yet?
Is there and am I just not seeing it?
 
10:44 PM
It would be a pretty boring challenge
There's a closed form formula for the nth sequence, so with standard sequence rules every answer would just be a translation of x=>(10**x-1)/9
Or +("1"*x) for languages with that
 
10:57 PM
Got it. Thanks for the explanation!
 
i don't think i can participate with this LYAL today unfortunately
 

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