The Nineteenth Byte

user

00:04

@RadvylfPrograms I'd like to add good jokes that haven't been starred, because there's no reason to have 10 stars on some message that sounds silly out of context so it stays up for days afterwards and keeps the serious stuff off the starboard

Razetime

01:05

@tjjfvi discord

tjjfvi

…what discord

I don’t know how anyone would’ve found it

Besides digging through my profile

allxy

Found it, pretty cool

Nice job getting monaco working

Not particularly error-tolerant though :P

Razetime

@tjjfvi cgcc discord. your profile has your github

i was just logreading and i matched the profile pics

tjjfvi

01:23

Ah, ok

@allxy haha yeah

Still in beta

allxy

It'd be cool if it could handle whitespace in statements / loops

Like for(...){ vs for (...) {?

tjjfvi

It might

Try it

If it doesn’t, it should/will

allxy

It does, never mind :)

tjjfvi

Nice

allxy

How does that work?

tjjfvi

01:33

I gotta run; I’ll explain later

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms I write more than 35% of my code with copilot

And I actually do use it for python and java

Good gosh does that make me a stereotype?

Bubbler

01:59

Does copilot give the same code for same input?

allxy

Don't think so

Bubbler

interesting

lyxal

02:11

@Bubbler it does

It's got a temperature of 0

Sandbox Posts

02:38

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is this polynomial a square? code-golf decision-problem polynomials math Related. Related. Given an integral polynomial \$p\$, determine if \$p\$ is a square of another integral polynomial. An integral polynomial is a polynomial with only integers as coefficients. For example, \$x^2+2x+1\$ shoul...

Pyautogui

I really like that ^ sandbox post!

allxy

02:51

~~vyxal has a builtinish for this~~

DLosc

@hyper-neutrino Please unfreeze tinylisp

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Q: Is it 1089-able?

\$ 1089 \$ is a very special number. To prove why, select any 3-digit number whose first and last digits differ by at least 2. Then, reverse the digits, and take the difference of these two numbers. Reverse the digits once more, and add these two numbers together. You will get \$ 1089 \$. The mag...

hyper-neutrino

@DLosc done

PyGamer0

04:01

@tjjfvi huh i cant remember lol

i think i was browsing the leaderboard for AoC, saw you, clicked your profile, saw your repositories, and starred eglint

PyGamer0

05:11

how does this look ?

i just need to load iosevka as the font in that now...

PyGamer0

05:32

@pxeger numpy also has a cumsum

PyGamer0

06:37

Apr 4 at 7:18, by PyGamer0

CMP: Does ^ font look good?

@allxy ^

allxy

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ serif and monospace go together kinda weirdly

pxeger

@PyGamer0 It looks very narrow

allxy

07:14

Wtf

Razetime

@PyGamer0 I like slab monospaces. This is alright, but imo pt mono is the slab monospace

pxeger

@allxy I've seen these accounts before, I think they're basically just spam bots?

allxy

¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

PyGamer0

07:41

@allxy i have seen those a couple of times

@pxeger i like narrow typefaces...

> pt mono is the slab monospace

wdym?

frick i need to rebuild iosevka

Razetime

08:08

@PyGamer0 i mean it includes serifs really nicely

also cutive mono is great

PyGamer0

08:33

i got the font working!

can y'all see it?

Neil

ugh, just found another YouTube bug...

allxy

08:48

Same :P

(although my one might be an ios bug)

My one is that fullscreen youtube videos bypass time limits

Sandbox Posts

09:08

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ASCII-Art n'th Root Tags: code-golfascii-artstringnumbermath Related: Square Root of ASCII art. Challenge: Given two integers \$a\$ and \$b\$, with lengths \$A=length(a), B=length(b)\$, output an ASCII-art of the \$a^{th}\$ root of \$b\$, including the answer rounded to \$A\$ amount of decimal pl...

Razetime

09:22

@PyGamer0 yep

ophact

09:38

There are now two questions you can answer to get 200 rep from JoKing.

allxy

I kinda want to do a random bountyfest for posting answers within a specific minute this year

#forthememes

mathcat

> answers

allxy

6th september 4:20 UTC

ophact

@allxy April Fool's perhaps?

you'll have to wait 1 year though

allxy

^^^

ophact

09:43

@allxy Ah, I'll be asleep at that time

:(

mathcat

Don't sleep then

allxy

I might make it 4:20 am/pm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is hypothetical lol

ophact

You could hold a bounty day

those who answer 10 times during that day receive some amount of bounty depending on the difficulties of the answered questions

mathcat

09:55

nice

I'll do a pi-bounty day

ophact

be prepared to give out tons of rep...

mathcat

(hopefully I'll have 10k rep by then)

ophact

pi-bounty day... as in 3/14?

mathcat

yeah

ophact

can't wait

Ginger

11:19

hiiaa

PyGamer0

hi

allxy

o/ probably for a week

PyGamer0

o/

mathcat

0/

lyxal

11:42

@allxy see you when you get back, gamer.

Neil

11:52

@allxy mine is that if you use Page Up to change the position of a video before it has started playing then it only plays audio and the UI breaks completely

Bgil Midol

12:07

Feedback?

Ginger

today's google doodle is about global warming

cool

oh wait, that message got pinned again

huh

Bgil Midol

@Ginger Why isn't campfire working?

Ginger

lemme check

seems fine to me

Bgil Midol

connection rejected by server

Ginger

make sure you don't have any other open tabs

and don't reload too fast

Bgil Midol

12:11

now it says im banned

Ginger

uh

hmm

I may have banned you by accident

@BgilMidol reload please

@BgilMidol reload again

okay

you've been unbanned I think

now let's get back to golfing before radvylf sees anything off-topic

Bgil Midol

works

Ginger

yey

mathcat

12:54

@allxy just allyx or emanresu A too?

PyGamer0

both

tjjfvi

13:20

@allxy Unlike most formatters, eglint doesn't have a set of pre-set rules.

Instead, it derives the format directly from the reference file; essentially, for every node in the subject file, it finds the most syntactically similar node in the reference file and makes the whitespace align

The process is a bit more complicated, but that's the general idea

It has a cool side-effect that many things will work without manual effort on my part

Like the for loop thing you tried

I had never tested that before

Some forms of syntax need manual effort (like changing string quoting or when the AST format isn't ideal), but most of the time it Just Works™

Bubbler

13:35

Bubbler/piet now has the Explain feature. It's pretty basic but it can produce pictures like this or this.

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PyGamer0

nice

ophact

13:52

@tjjfvi How's the hunt for a solution to the square problem going? ;)

tjjfvi

Been pretty busy lately

Haven't progressed much

Still need to get in touch with people

ophact

ah... I see

that challenge is too difficult for me, I can't even understand it

tjjfvi

Also I need to figure out what my code does

It's been too long

Haha I guess I'm safe, then

ophact

For a few years at least

tjjfvi

Indeed

I might get around to it next month

ophact

13:54

Hopefully yeah

looking forward to seeing a solution

even if I have no idea what it does...

tjjfvi

Well if all goes well I'll probably have a pretty detailed explanation

Which should help ;)

Though perhaps not as epic as cubular

ophact

I briefly saw your answer to that one

should read it sometime... maybe now?

tjjfvi

IMO it's a good read, but I'm probably biased ;)

Writing that explanation took longer than the actual answer

ophact

I can see why that challenge remained unanswered for so long

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Q: King of The Holster

You stand on a dusty stretch of code, watching the other programs stare at you. Will they shoot? How much ammunition do they have left? All you know is that you want to be the last one standing. Before the Game You will be given 10 points to distribute between HP, Dexterity, Armor, and Speed. You...

king-of-the-hill java

tjjfvi

14:09

Haha you used my name

ophact

Out of curiosity, where did you get your username?

randomly generated like mine?

Romanp

Who? Tjjfvi or me?

ophact

tjjfvi

Bubbler

14:22

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A: Nominations for Language of the Month, Take 2

Piet Piet is a classic esolang that dates back to 2001 (according to Esolangs article), which is unique in that it operates on an image rather than source code. But "source code being an image" is only part of its uniqueness. The instruction pointer moves around in the unit of single-colored area...

In some sense LYAL is a nice testing ground for LotM nomination

tjjfvi

@ophact Nope, it wasn’t randomly generated

But it was perhaps the most uncreative choice

DLosc

@hyper-neutrino Thanks!

ophact

@tjjfvi How so?

tjjfvi

I’ll leave that as an exercise to the reader

Can’t give away all my mystery ;)

PyGamer0

14:38

@tjjfvi let me guess: tjj + f + vi(m) ?

:p

DLosc

@Bubbler True, and also vice-versa--tinylisp's LYAL was helped, I think, by some resources I developed while it was LotM

PyGamer0

The most successful LYALs: Vyxal, piet, tinylisp i think (in chronological order)

also how does this website look? :)

tjjfvi

@PyGamer0 nope, too creative

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi you just mashed your keyboard?

lyxal

Anything to do with the colour green?

Bgil Midol

14:44

@PyGamer0 make it look like F L A X E L E M E N T S E A R C H with a red double border

tjjfvi

@PyGamer0 It wasn't generated randomly

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi is tjj your initials?

tjjfvi

Really, its less that I chose the name, and more that I chose not to not choose the name

@PyGamer0 No, but you're close

PyGamer0

tj?

tjjfvi

You're just getting farther

PyGamer0

14:46

tjjf?

tjjfvi

In a way, but no

PyGamer0

hm ... i dont know what to guess now..

tjjfvi

It's rather obvious, once you abandon your unfounded assumptions

Bgil Midol

@PyGamer0

lyxal

@tjjfvi cat name?

tjjfvi

14:49

Nope, wrong assumption

I could just tell you, but this is more fun

Bgil Midol

tjjfvi

For me, anyway

Bgil Midol

@PyGamer0 ^

lyxal

Is it an acronym for The Jelly Jobs For Vyxal Initiative?

PyGamer0

@BgilMidol uh i dont like that

i like my current version as is

tjjfvi

14:51

No, it was created much before either of those languages, at least to my knowledge

lyxal

Twas a joke.

Ofc it isn't an acronym for that

That doesn't even exist.

tjjfvi

In a way, you could say it was determined over a century ago

Bgil Midol

made with this html and css

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi the jitsu foundation?

tjjfvi

No, my username

ophact

14:53

@tjjfvi Thomas Jefferson something?

tjjfvi

Nope

PyGamer0 was closest so far

But they didn't go all the way

lyxal

Every second letter of your name?

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi ivfjjt are your initials?

tjjfvi

Now you're all mixed up

lyxal

Well I hate to leave while it's still a mystery but I really need to sleep now

o/

PyGamer0

14:55

o/

ophact

o/

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi o_o-o`o

hey look new wave emoticon: `o

@tjjfvi is it supposed to represent something?

tjjfvi

@PyGamer0 You were so close

ophact

IV?

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi tjjf?

the sixth?

tjjf the sixth?

tjjfvi

14:57

Ah ha

We have a winner

ophact

But who is tjjf?

tjjfvi

My initials are tjjfvi, yes

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi yesssss

@ophact thanks to this message

tjjfvi

From 'T[first name] J[middle name] J[second middle name] F[last name] the Sixth'

ophact

@PyGamer0 I was referring to "IV" being the initials

so right for the wrong reason ;)

PyGamer0

14:59

@ophact i thought it was a roman numeral :p

tjjfvi

@tjjfvi perhaps this makes more sense now

PyGamer0

@tjjfvi it still doesnt ... unless were the 5 more tjjfs?

tjjfvi

Well that's what "the Sixth" would imply, no?

PyGamer0

hmm interesting

@tjjfvi so your dad's name is tjjfv?

tjjfvi

One would expect so

PyGamer0

15:05

i got an idea for a cmc :p

CMC: Given a number convert it to a roman numeral and prepend "tjjf" :p

Radvylf Programs

15:27

→ 68 cups of heavy whipping cream moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

PyGamer0

it got bakeried.

tjjfvi

And my story is forgotten once again…

ophact

We'd have a huge marble cake by tomorrow.

Someone who knows how to bake should try making cakes using the ingredients @RadvylfPrograms puts in the bakery...

ah lag

PyGamer0

@ophact that would be interesting

Radvylf Programs

@tjjfvi You can always post an answer here :p

ophact

15:29

It would be the most interesting answer ;)

seeing as many ingredients are put into the bakery on a regular basis

tjjfvi

@RadvylfPrograms Perhaps I will, someday

ophact

Hey, looks like the button "An edit has been made to this post" is working again!

hyper-neutrino

16:27

i haven't voted yet but the past day or two and the more i think about it the more i think having a general off-topic room may be a good idea

DLosc

16:41

Maybe it could be a dumping ground like the Bakery, except not for "trash," just off-topicness. And people can keep talking there if they want. (Will anybody want to moderate it?)

PyGamer0

@DLosc i see that you have started tinylisp2 which is awesomer :)

DLosc

Indeed :)

Radvylf Programs

@DLosc The same ROs TNB and the Bakery have can make sure things stay SFW and stuff

hyper-neutrino

i'll hover around the room as well; it won't need as much moderation since there won't really be a matter of topic anymore it'll just be adherence to ToS/CoC

and that sort of stuff can be modded by anyone via just normal or mod flags since ROs here are important for moderating the chatiquette since they don't always require suspensions or stuff and flags might make other people handle it wrong

Radvylf Programs

We should call the room TNB (Non-Competing) :p

hyper-neutrino

16:48

The Twenty-First Byte :D

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it's 21 bytes as well

mathcat

nice

Radvylf Programs

17:38

Well the plot thickens. They've removed "your GPA bad you baka" from the reasons they're rejecting me from NHS, but have added the following wonderfully vague justifications: Not completely filling out the paper application, not submitting the digital verification form, not having any extracurricular activities verified on your application form, and incorrectly formatting your essay submission."

Despite the application explicitly stating you're allowed to justify why you don't have extracurricular activities in your essay

Which I'm guessing is why they added the last two, since I spent like half the essay listing why I'm unable to do extracurricular activities

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Q: Link fails to render properly when rejecting an accepted edit

I think a screenshot best conveys the bug: As you can see, the link HTML in the drop down does not properly render: This edit was already approved - please visit <a href="/questions/246460/king-of-the-holster/246466#246466">the post</a> and correct the edit.

bug reviewing formatting

Radvylf Programs

And I've just rechecked the application PDF and every email I've ever been sent containing "NHS" or "honor" and none have a digital form attached

Ginger

18:29

jeez I leave for 3 hours and @tjjfvi becomes the rightful ruler of england

hyper-neutrino

yeah i'm going to go vote in favor of the off-topic room. although it's already quite negatively voted so idk if it'll pass the votes but it's probably reasonable if I + some ROs decide we want to to overrule the vote?

caird coinheringaahing

19:08

@hyper-neutrino i mean, people are welcome to make a room, and if one is created, I'll direct people to use it, but I don't think its necessary to make one in the first place

Radvylf Programs

TIL the concert I'm going to in August was originally supposed to be nearly two years before but got postponed twice due to COVID lol

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino I don't think you should be able to overrule the vote

Radvylf Programs

Well, I don't think the votes are saying "this is an idea that will cause harm", rather "this just isn't worth the work". Since we're the ones doing the work, my understanding is that nobody would really have a problem with it.

But it's kind of unclear why the downvotes are there in the first place

allxy

So, here for another hour

Radvylf Programs

Where is it you'll be going?

allxy

19:14

@pxeger Agreed. DEMOCRACY

@RadvylfPrograms Camping

Radvylf Programs

Oh, sorry for your loss.

Unrelated String

f

pxeger

of internet?

Radvylf Programs

Of sanity and internet and whatever else you lose while camping

Bgil Midol

@pxeger agree

caird coinheringaahing

19:22

@RadvylfPrograms My downvote is there to say "I disagree that this is necessary"

allxy

^

hyper-neutrino

19:38

i mean since it is a vote for necessity and not a vote for permittance that's why i think it's valid if ros want it still

if it were a vote for "should we be allowed to do this" then definitely no

either way fair enough though. i just think that we're getting too much noise that is so noisy it can't even belong in its own room without the room just dying after 2 messages cuz it goes nowhere

but, you are still correct that if it's not voted for (and especially since it's not just not top-votes but negative score) we should follow the democratic vote since it also decides where things are moved to, so i retract that

Romanp

20:50

@RadvylfPrograms Any progress on either of your KoTH ideas?

Radvylf Programs

No, writing a KotH controller is something I'll be a bit too busy to do for the next month or so

Romanp

Ok

Sandbox Posts

22:15

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Spell out an integer... in NDos' way Objective Given a positive integer, spell it out in the conlang I made. Specification Let \$n\$ be the inputted integer. \$n\$ shall be spelled out in the following specification. The entire spelling is case sensitive. With the decimal expansion of \$n\$, let ...

lyxal

23:57

@RadvylfPrograms you're gonna have to clarify what NHS is

Because afaik you could be talking about the wood supply store called NHS

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