The Nineteenth Byte

Wheat Wizard

00:01

@cairdcoinheringaahing Technically if you vote for all candidates and put X last it is not different from the same except with X removed. Since the candidate above them of on the ballot can never be eliminated without the election concluding.

Aiden Chow

yay i can propose tag synonyms now lel

allxy

You'll almost certainly never use that

Aiden Chow

@allxy yep, i figured as much

allxy

I solved Semantle #62 in 22 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 0.42. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #15. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 13.81. semantle.novalis.org

Very lucky again

Ginger

Me: *minding my own business*
Pixel: *comes tearing past like she's auditioning for the Sonic Movie 3*
*5 seconds pass*
Luna: *comes sauntering in at a leisurely pace*
Me: ...
Me: what did you DO to her?!

@Ginger when did this get starred?

Aiden Chow

00:13

lol 942 on guess 10

@allxy HOW TF???

my highest is still 942

I solved Semantle #62 in 33 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 10.10. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #6. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 9.46. semantle.novalis.org

ok yeah that was pretty straightfoward

user

00:31

@lyxal I'm not sure what you're offering but I'll take 4

lyxal

@user no. I said 3.

That's my best and final

Bgil Midol

guess 10 914/1000 lol

att

so straightforward I can't guess it :/

I solved Semantle #62 in 82 guesses. My first guess had a similarity of 9.14. My first word in the top 1000 was at guess #12. My penultimate guess had a similarity of 8.05. semantle.novalis.org

that took way too long

user

00:46

@lyxal Okay I'll take it

3 what?

Aiden Chow

@att nice!

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Can you decrypt me?

Seggan

01:10

is it just me?

or does SO look terrible

user

wtf

I assume it's for April Fools

Hot dog theme best theme

Seggan

no

terminal users go brr

user

I actually like the bookface theme

Seggan

^^

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Q: Aww, snap! We’ve got Filters now

How do you do, fellow Stackers? If there’s anything that Stack Overflow is known for, it’s being hip to the latest trends in every field. Gaming? We created StackEgg. Security? We invented Dance Dance Authentication. Self-guided problem solving? Quack Overflow was there for you. Programming? The ...

o i actually want a pair of 3d glasses now just to test out the ttheme

hyper-neutrino

01:30

wait it's already been a year since the key

damn

user

I feel old

Senior citizen moment

Aiden Chow

01:56

very colorful amongus image :D

enlarged for your viewing pleasure !

DialFrost

ello

Aiden Chow

@DialFrost hello

DialFrost

still no ez qns lol

lyxal

02:48

@Ginger Luna showed Pixel your github repositories :p

Radvylf Programs

@Seggan Ohhh it's april fools day in some time zones that explains it

Jo King

03:05

it's april fools in most time zones by this point

emanresu A

This is great

I hope the new header bar was an april fools prank

emanresu A

03:28

Oh god the 3d glasses theme is horrible to look at

I like bookface and frisa lank though

Radvylf Programs

@emanresuA I love that so much

emanresu A

> smash that like and subscribe button

emanresu A

03:50

:( Flack overstow is kinda useless on my account

Most of it's either Vyxal or Pyramid Scheme, and stuff I've actually written

I got a few things though

> Push the item under (the # # #) to the strings

> Increment to 108, quadruple and output twice to the W and output

> Did you know that you can compare BigInts with spaces?

> Replace spaces in x with spaces

Okay, the best one of all

> But did you know that you can be removed?

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lyxal

From my stackoverflow account:

> User enters a string, this will produce an error. To avoid this, wrap the conversion to an integer in variables: variables[name] = list() variables[name].append(int(value)) with the highest value. In your subset_sum() function, you have the line str1 = ''.join(str(e) for e in max) Which tries to iterate (loop) through the predefined function, as there is what seems to be happening.

emanresu A

> If a backslash is removed, an operation!

lyxal

> bU # dump the contents of that you have singleton lists for hundreds and tens and an empty list of 0s which is truthy) - this makes it so that you do this to me?

not exactly what to binary then Uniquify does but close enough

emanresu A

@emanresuA I found an even better one:

> If a feature, it's a bug

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PyGamer0

04:12

i like marioverflow

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Q: Waste your brainpower on useless puzzles

I have been forced to read about 100 code golf topics now by stackexchange which are all all a waste of knowledge and brain power. 99.9% of code golf topics have not aimed to further humanities quest in a strategically useful field of study.com which is essentially a form of stupidity... If you w...

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Radvylf Programs

^ Someone apparently isn't very happy with CGCC

PyGamer0

lmao

emanresu A

Flag as rude or abusive

PyGamer0

@NewPosts like what the hell is this

att

04:19

lmao

lyxal

which one of you nerds upvoted it?

Bubbler

The tag is the funniest part

lyxal

It's like claiming that the New York Times should stop putting crosswords in the newspaper, because it wastes society's collective brainpower. The time when people do crosswords, or code golf, is time when we wouldn't be productive in the first place, so at the worst all it does is provide somewhat contrived practice problems. I, at least, have learned a considerable amount from code golf. — Radvylf Programs 30 secs ago

This is right

I've learned more from code golf than school or uni

PyGamer0

lol

att

@lyxal i haven't seen something this almost funny in a while

Niko

04:56

code golf: waste brainpower
semantle: waste life and brainpower
gaming: also waste money btw
me: i guess i am hopeless now

Bubbler

So code golf is the most intelligent way to waste brainpower

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Niko

you don’t get to do code golf if you aren’t smart enough to code

nice april fool for ccgc anyway, it was funny af

lyxal

@NewPosts all I can say is that when I look out there it makes me glad I'm not them - I've languages to run, and there's answers to be done.

(kudos to you if you get the Portal reference there)

ophact

@Bubbler ...and time.

PyGamer0

05:12

@Bubbler ^ and school grades if you dont study :P

for example today was my biology exam

yesterday night i was TNBing

Aiden Chow

damn the question is deleted, i wanted to see what the fuss was all about :(

the preview from @NewPosts already gives me a taste of it tho :P

also idk if anyone got this, but chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/60786113#60786113 is a piet program "cleverly" obfuscated in an amongus pixel art

emanresu A

I oculd tell

Does it print "sus" or something?

Aiden Chow

unexpectedly spent more time on it than i anticipated lol

@emanresuA yeah :P

literally just prints out "sus"

PyGamer0

wow nice

Aiden Chow

tried to make an infinite loop to print "sus" forever, didnt manage to find a way to do that without making it super obvious

lol got this when i pasted my account into flack overstow:
If you paste pride into the function \$f(n,k)\$, where \$n\$ is not an integer, it will round it instead. For example, [1...3.5] is not.

if you use too many of the other answers were doing.

lol

Number to the power of zero, it in such a way that it was inaccurate.

PyGamer0

05:30

CMC: Infinite list of prime numbers.

Aiden Chow

So, for example, the following the pseudocode below (using the general list comprehension form that I mentioned earlier): SET result to empty list to decimal, with the head of the 3 row layout that I couldn't figure out how to get.
lmaooooooo

allxy

@PyGamer0 Vyxal has builtin

PyGamer0

i know

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 uh so print primes infinitely or a function return the nth prime?

"Notice how there is anything wrong. I made this issue completely and it behaves as specified in the challenge."
ROFL

PyGamer0

@AidenChow the first one

i guess a function yielding primes Infinity counts

ato.pxeger.com/…

@Bubbler sequence?

wait what

Did pxeger change his name to Hodor for April Fools?

and today is AprilFools

Bubbler

05:43

Yesn't

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 not yet for me :)

PyGamer0

@AidenChow huh...

you live in Hawaii?

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 nope

close

PyGamer0

alaska?

Aiden Chow

uh no

PyGamer0

05:44

west canada?

Aiden Chow

no

PyGamer0

east or west?

north or south?

Aiden Chow

south

PyGamer0

south america?

Aiden Chow

uhhh no

north

PyGamer0

05:46

north america?

mexico?

asu?

i mean usa

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 yep, on the west coast specifically

@PyGamer0 yeah

PyGamer0

ö

i guess i invented a new game: guess the location

Aiden Chow

also its a new month (for most ppl at least), that means new lotm ?

PyGamer0

i guess

emanresu A

@PyGamer0 VTC as dupe of worldle/globle

PyGamer0

05:48

:(

emanresu A

@AidenChow If it's desmos, I've said I'll do the bounties

Aiden Chow

@emanresuA it seems like its a language called curry

desmos next month i think

PyGamer0

everything in this world should be VTC'd as duplicate of each other

humans, bam VTC'd as dup of monkeys

monkeys, bam VTC'd as dup of donkeys

att

I'm actually having a lot of fun playing with apl

PyGamer0

animals, bam VTC'd as dup of insects

@att nice

emanresu A

05:50

@AidenChow Changed :) for some reason I hadn't voted on curry

Bubbler

@WheatWizard The next LotM seems to be Curry. Do you want to write the post for it?

Well, it's already past UTC midnight

Aiden Chow

well rip, guess its curry then

lol just learned the basics of haskell, might get confused if i start learning curry

:\

for lotms, is there also teaching/learning sessions like in lyal

or is that just a lyal thing

Bubbler

Just LYAL

though you can create a new chatroom for Curry and learn/discuss it there during the month

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler idk how to create a new chatroom, why dont u do it ?

anyone here who knows curry have advice on which implementation should we use if we are just starting out, or it doesnt matter ?

Bubbler

@AidenChow Here it is

Aiden Chow

05:57

ok thx

going to look into curry, hopefully i dont get curry and haskell confused (apparently they are similar?)

Bubbler

though for starters some guidance from Wheat Wizard would be great

Aiden Chow

found the curry documentation i think: www-ps.informatik.uni-kiel.de/currywiki/_media/documentation/…

not sure how up to date it is

just found it on the official (?) curry website

Bubbler

Nothing can be considered official when there are 4 competing(?) impls

PyGamer0

@Bubbler is curry like haskell?

Bubbler

I don't know curry

Aiden Chow

06:00

@PyGamer0 apparently it is, based on the nomination post

Bubbler

I want to just enjoy Piet more and make some better tools and nominate it for LotM later

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler nominate piet??

PyGamer0

curry looks like haskell to me, based on one example

Aiden Chow

that sounds cool, definitely want to look more into piet

still a big noob at it lmao

bruh im looking through the first few sections of the documentation and im already so confused :\

not really beginner friendly i feel like

Bubbler

Yes, nominate piet, but I want to hold it off until the better tools are ready

Aiden Chow

06:02

like wtf does that mean, looks more like a math paper than documentation to me lmao

@Bubbler sounds cool, i would definitely give the nomination an upvote when u post it :)

Bubbler

Lol, a typical type theory paper

Aiden Chow

ok just gonna skip that part for now, not like its going to matter that much, right???

Bubbler

Also a small fact: Haskell Curry is a single person

PyGamer0

hah Haskell and Curry

allxy

Oh is that why functions returning functions is called currying?

PyGamer0

06:05

thats why the second language is curry

allxy

Or is it this

Their signature play is the three-point combinator, a recursive offense which is guaranteed not to halt and continues accumulating points until the buzzer.

PyGamer0

@allxy i think yes

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler thats cool, from wiki page: "There are three programming languages named after him, Haskell, Brook and Curry, as well as the concept of currying, a technique used for transforming functions in mathematics and computer science."

PyGamer0

@AidenChow so Haskell Brook Curry is his name?

allxy

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ಠ_ಠ

Aiden Chow

06:10

it seems like curry is really similar to haskell (at least at first glance), except there is a bunch of other math stuff that i feel like i should be trying to understand, but instead im just skipping right over them

omg much easier to understand: informatik.uni-kiel.de/~curry/tutorial/tutorial.pdf

PyGamer0

@allxy what is that

Bubbler

Time to file a bug report

emanresu A

VTCs?

allxy

@Bubbler This isn't the first time, I'm pretty sure they ignore those

PyGamer0

06:25

why are allxy and emanresu online

Aiden Chow

@PyGamer0 uhh why not?

emanresu A

Aug 28, 2021 at 5:21, by exedraj

How Do Archers Resist Firing Arrows At Everyone In The Spectator Gallery?

►

Aiden Chow

06:50

is there a way to make a loop in piet such that it keeps pushing character input to the stack until all input is read, then exit the loop after that?

im having a hard time detecting when the input runs out (because if the input command doesnt read any input, it is simply ignored)

Hodor

@emanresuA That's a bad challenge, but it doesn't seem to be lacking anything that would mean it needs to be closed

Aiden Chow

my initial thought process was to first push a 0, then do the input command. if the input command is successful, then there will be a nonzero integer on the top of the stack (so smth like [input, 0,...]). but if there is no input, then the zero will be on top of the stack instead (like [0,...]).

Bubbler

The answer to Double speak uses the same idea

Aiden Chow

@Bubbler oh ok, so im assuming thats the best way to go about it?

Bubbler

Or I imagine you could take the length first and then the characters, like what is often done in the online judge problems

Aiden Chow

07:03

@Bubbler is that even allowed? like is that a default i/o

Bubbler

I'm searching for it, if there's none then I think I'll post a new one

Hodor

07:25

anyone seen the SO april fools themes?

@PyGamer0 Not specifically for April fools, but I did, yes

12 hours ago, by Hodor

@cairdcoinheringaahing Hodor.

Bubbler

@Hodor I read the announcement first so I decided to not open any SO page today

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A: Default for Code Golf: Input/Output methods

Full programs may take array/string input (of unknown length) via stdin in the form of <length> <contents> or <contents> <sentinel> EOF handling is a common problem in many languages, not just esolangs. But only "regular" languages that support proper arrays and functions can circumvent this issu...

emanresu A

@Hodor I don't understand what the second bullet point means

Bubbler

Kinda nice-to-have for esolangs with weak (and somewhat weird) I/O facility, but I do think it is a consistent extension for full programs to functions taking arrays

SegFaultPlus4

how did we get from auto-closing to politics

emanresu A

07:53

WTF

Permalink in case it gets delted

Wheat Wizard

@AidenChow They are very similar and very different.

You could get a bit confused. Not sure, but I don't think it will make you worse at Haskell.

SegFaultPlus4

08:20

who here has a 100% wordle win rate

@Hodor where's the bleach, i need to rinse my eyes

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Q: Language of the Month for April 2022: Curry

In accordance with our meta agreement, since one candidate received more votes than the others, we have a new featured language! Throughout March 2022, our Language of the Month will be: Curry What's a Language of the Month? See the meta post for nominations. In short, during February, those wh...

discussion language-of-the-month

SegFaultPlus4

Wordle 286 3/6

⬛⬛🟧🟦⬛
⬛🟦🟦⬛⬛
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧

let's go, another 3

New Posts

08:51

I tried.

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SegFaultPlus4

@NewPosts can't see the image

@NewPosts hi emanresu A

PyGamer0

obviously because of the high rep count that is emanresu

hmm i got an idea...but it will be released on 2047 if i am online at that time

in Vyxal, 5 mins ago, by New Posts

@VyxalBot I got the email for this while checking my email :P

in Vyxal, 23 secs ago, by New Posts

Oops

^ hey new posts is in vyxal room :P

SegFaultPlus4

09:21

@PyGamer0 k, see u in 25 years

emanresu A

> Bruce Schneier has solved the Travelling Salesman problem in O(1) time, but hasn't published it because he doesn't like salesmen.

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Unrelated String

understandable

emanresu A

codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/posts/22138/revisions

PyGamer0

09:37

@emanresuA wha-

ophact

10:06

Anyone else notice the bandwagon behavior with stars?

emanresu A

Yep

tfw you have half the starboard real estate

ophact

@emanresuA Did you know he also solved the Riemann hypothesis, but he hates Riemann integration so he kept his proof for himself. (he prefers Darboux integration)

emanresu A

10:21

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Q: Lock your computer when you walk away!

Well this is strange. I forgot to lock my monitor when I walked away from my desk, at work, and one of my co-workers decided to have a little fun. When I got back, I found this little C# console app code segment, sitting forefront on my machine. I ran it a few times, but the results don't re...

rebus computer-puzzle computer-science

SegFaultPlus4

ooh

looks like a vacancy for modship has opened

emanresu A

Nope

15 hours ago, by pxeger

12 hours ago, by Bubbler

I think the election is run only when the site isn't adequately moderated by the current ones

ophact

The Semantle is infuriating :(

994 and 989 but haven't got it yet

emanresu A

I got it in 22 with luck

somewhat confusing hint

It's not a big giveaway :P

SegFaultPlus4

@emanresuA why the dQ link?

emanresu A

10:31

I always use that

SegFaultPlus4

@ophact i have 45/1000

does anyone want to hear the 956th most related word for today

emanresu A

o/

Also, food for thought

SegFaultPlus4

@emanresuA bye

Adám

twitter.com/codehag/status/1509795981021302797

SegFaultPlus4

10:52

@emanresuA are they all meant to be words

SegFaultPlus4

11:12

@Adám for real

also antifreeze

Adám

@SegFaultPlus4 Unfortunately not. See the very end of the elaborate (and actually viable!) spec:

> NOTE 2 Yes, this is just a very elaborate April Fool's joke.

SegFaultPlus4

rip

Ginger

HELLO, IT'S APRIL FOOF DAY

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PyGamer0

go to SO

@Ginger woof

Ginger

PyGamer0

11:21

nice

Ginger

AAAAAAAAAA MY EYES

PyGamer0

ecin

Ginger

what is THIS

PyGamer0

Marioverflow is the best

Ginger

@Neil css means I can't do things like have the trophy change color (I think)

SegFaultPlus4

11:25

@all what are the last 6 digits of 3^1000

and their sum

no WolframAlpha allowed

PyGamer0

ok

220001 -> 5

done

SegFaultPlus4

ok

PyGamer0

without using wolfram

SegFaultPlus4

what is (3^1000) mod 100 * (3^1000) mod 101 * (5^(3^1000)) mod 101

there's a -500 rep bounty for this

tjjfvi

1

(assuming mod is left-associative)

PyGamer0

11:36

how did you calculate that?

ophact

@Ginger April Foof Day?

tjjfvi

(3^1000) mod 100 * (3^1000) is clearly 3^1000

(3^1000) mod 101 * (5^(3^1000)) is also clearly 3^1000

And 3^1000 mod 101 is easy enough to compute in a browser console

ophact

Number 1 most misspelled term used on the site: "code gold"

PyGamer0

code silver

@tjjfvi ok

SegFaultPlus4

@Ginger where's the bleach, i can't go on

@PyGamer0 code bronze

ophact

11:39

Should we make a tag called code gold? The most expensive code, measured in dollars, wins!

SegFaultPlus4

@tjjfvi congrats, you get -500 rep

tjjfvi

woot

PyGamer0

@ophact lol

ophact

Award @SegFaultPlus4 a bounty using Inspect Element to make it seem like there is a bounty on their answer

^ in response to tjjfvi winning the prize

^^ is how I awarded SegFaultPlus4 their +100 bounty

SegFaultPlus4

@ophact u fool, inspect element doesn't work on my end

ophact

11:40

but you can take a screenshot and send it here

and it will look like there is a bounty on their answer

SegFaultPlus4

then i will check the answer

tjjfvi

@SegFaultPlus4 You'll have to take the 500 rep bounty up with JoKing

Because they owe me 1200 rep :P

ophact

@SegFaultPlus4 remember that we award you bounties while you are dreaming. By the time you check out your answer, you will have awoken.

@tjjfvi and they owe me 200 rep

mathcat

happy april fools day everyone!

ophact

or "April Foof Day" as @Ginger put it

tjjfvi

11:43

@ophact Ah, yes

mathcat

btw don't google foof

2

tjjfvi

2 weeks? That barely counts :P

ophact

You have been waiting for how long?

tjjfvi

(is there an accepted emoticon for trolling?)

@ophact Well, I meant the age of the question, not the bounty

ophact

oh...

tjjfvi

11:44

But since November

@ophact (just messing around)

ophact

yeah, just wanted to answer the question to test my ability and to win 200 rep

I already won 50 rep from @mathcat who was the OP of that question

mathcat

I am very confused. Why is everyone talking about bounties now?

tjjfvi

It's a bounty party

ophact

because SegFaultPlus4 awarded tjffvi a -500 rep bounty

mathcat

how?

ophact

11:46

wasn't real

but it was for calculating some random expression

tjjfvi

@mathcat I think it involved a segfault

ophact

involving 3 to the power of 1000 mod 100 times something something

tjjfvi

@ophact Unfortunately, we may never know, as the calculation is now above the fold, permanently inaccessible

mathcat

@Ginger why didn't you get your gold badge? It says viewed 10k times.

ophact

might not be more than 10k

could be 9.9k

or something

it's rounded

mathcat

11:50

ah

tjjfvi

@ophact Wow, the list of eligible questions is rather small these days

ophact

yep, there are three

golfing expressions seems to be enjoyable

I'm gonna attempt the four color one soon

tjjfvi

Cool

ophact

"Can you draw this in one stroke" was surprisingly hard to solve

but I got it down to 524 bytes

tjjfvi

Hmm, doesn't it just involve checking the number of vertices with odd neighbors?

If all vertices have even neighbors, it can be drawn in a single loop

If exactly two vertices have odd neighbors, it can be drawn in a single stroke, with those two vertices being the end points

And otherwise, it can't be drawn in a single stroke

ophact

11:55

there is the case of two closed shapes being given as input...

for instance,

tjjfvi

Ah, true

ophact

 _   _
|_| |_|

tjjfvi

You also have to check if the graph is connected

ophact

yep

I initially thought of a strategy of finding the number of "hanging lines" (ik not very scientific) and going from there by fixing the endpoint but it didn't end up working out

mathcat

(This chat was sponsored by mathcat)

ophact

11:58

Yep, thank you for the excellent challenge

mathcat

great solution

tjjfvi

@ophact I have a partial answer to the topologically distinct one

But I'm having a hard time verifying it

For the higher entries, I've seen like four different sets of numbers

Even ignoring the discrepancy between the semantics of the OEIS one and the challenge

Like the OEIS page links to two sources of numbers

And the numbers on the OEIS page and each of the two sources are all different

The numbers my program generates are distinct from all three

Not sure how to verify their correctness

Bgil Midol

Adám

12:16

Hot dog stand theme is the best — no fuzziness around icon indicators!

Bgil Midol

12:32

I prefer Frisa Lank

Neil

@Ginger I've dimmed them in CSS. See my large plain text post a day or so ago

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Q: Organize a Kiowa library

We are probably all used to the English alphabetical order: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z When we compare words in English for the sake of alphabetization we first compare the first letter, whichever word has the later first letter comes later. If they are the same we chec...

code-golf string natural-language

lyxal

12:55

r/place returns in 5 minutes

Adám

Announcing: Dyalog Version 18.4.1

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