The Nineteenth Byte

Bubbler

09:00

Or, id restricted to function type

Wheat Wizard

It's only the identity on functions. You can't do ($) "test" since strings are not functions.

pxeger

Well, yeah, fair enough

PyGamer0

HaskellMC: Bubble sort

Wheat Wizard

It's also has special unboxing properties. But let's not talk about unboxing.

emanresu A

Do you mean destructuring or something entirely different?

Wheat Wizard

09:02

It's actually not possible to write ($) without compiler hook ins.

pxeger

@emanresuA Unboxing is to do with pointers and other low level gubbins

PyGamer0

does haskell have low level stuff?

Wheat Wizard

It does, but it's black magic.

Related: hackage.haskell.org/package/bytestring-0.11.3.0/docs/…

pxeger

laziness + no side effects makes anything low level very nasty

emanresu A

@WheatWizard I knew you were going to link that

~~time to create a worse version~~

SegFaultPlus4

09:08

give me two minutes

Wheat Wizard

There are some nice things about low level Haskell stuff. But it's its own skill and it's pretty separate from the rest of the language.

pxeger

@PyGamer0 ato.pxeger.com/…

Wheat Wizard

That's kind of slow even for a bubble sort.

@pxeger It also doesn't work: Try [1,2,4,3]

pxeger

oops

Wheat Wizard

Fix: ato.pxeger.com/…

PyGamer0

09:26

@emanresuA how do i splice arrays in js like python?

nvm got it

emanresu A

Do you mean slice?

SegFaultPlus4

def bubbleSort(toSort):
  for i in range(len(toSort)):
    for i1 in range(len(toSort)-1):
      if toSort[i1] > toSort[i1+1]:
        temp = toSort[i1]
        toSort[i1] = toSort[i1+1]
        toSort[i1+1] = temp
  return toSort

PyGamer0

@emanresuA how to prepend to stuff

SegFaultPlus4

09:41

:

PyGamer0

in js

def b(l):
 for _ in range(len(l)):
  l=f(l)
 return l

^ CMQ: how to golf that?

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 change _ to i

PyGamer0

how will that help?

SegFaultPlus4

reduces it by a whole 0 bytes

Wheat Wizard

You don't need a newline after the for header.

PyGamer0

09:50

yeah

can i write it as a one liner

Wheat Wizard

def b(l):
  for _ in l:l=f(l)
  return l

PyGamer0

something like: repeat(f,range(len(l)),l)

python: golfed but readable bubble sort in 180 bytes

i guess the time complexity is still O(n²)....

Wheat Wizard

Why are there just 3 spaces out of nowhere on the second line?

And the same on the seventh?

PyGamer0

to make it align with the second return

Wheat Wizard

Oh. I don't think that works.

PyGamer0

09:55

?

Wheat Wizard

It just looks weird.

PyGamer0

it just for readability

@WheatWizard oh lol

Wheat Wizard

I think it makes it less readable.

PyGamer0

173 without spaces: ato.pxeger.com/…

Wheat Wizard

(There's still an extra space)

Lightly golfed for 136 bytes: ato.pxeger.com/…

PyGamer0

10:07

i wonder if b can be written as a lambda

allxy

10:26

Sep 8, 2021 at 1:03, by OldSandboxPosts

@emanresuA I think caird coinheringaahing is a Sith Lord!

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 123 bytes

i win

allxy

120

SegFaultPlus4

man i can't have shit in this room

allxy

CMQ: Ever used %-formatting and f-strings at the same time?

SegFaultPlus4

no

pxeger

10:36

@allxy yes, for a code.golf problem

I think it was the overlapping rectangles one

But I can't tell you what it is

allxy

nerdlegame 71 4/6

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Dammit, commutativeness

SegFaultPlus4

nerdlegame 71 4/6

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so damn close to a 3

emanresu A

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allxy

o/

SegFaultPlus4

mini nerdlegame 71 5/6

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for those who want to see my full breakdown, it's here

hyper-neutrino

11:51

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Q: In the new top bar, the moderator diamond no longer changes color to indicate new inbox messages

The title says it all—this is yet another regression with the unannounced, untested, unwanted launch of the redesigned top navigation bar. Moderators have a diamond icon in their top bar, which is ordinarily the same color as the other icons (inbox, achievements, etc.), but is supposed to light u...

thank you SE, very cool

ophact

We officially have no bountied questions.

lyxal

hey wait if stacks is open source, that means we could change it ourselves right? (assuming merged PRs, but with enough people showing interest in the PRs, SE might notice and merge)

they have multiple labels on a PR that mean the same thing

and have they not heard of draft PRs?

Ginger

12:07

hai!

lyxal

eggs

Ginger

indeed.

Wheat Wizard

Is do-not-merge actually a synonym of work-in-progress?

They don't seem like the same thing.

Ginger

I am going to work on that userscript

lyxal

work-in-progress implies do-not-merge

Ginger

12:09

hol plees

lyxal

so yes, SE has made them synonyms

Ginger

CMQ: Can somebody with a cached version of the pre-icon-color-change site use a color picker on the icons?

lyxal

from meta.stackexchange.com/a/377579/391137

the icons are roughly #a1a6ae

or #a6aab2

depending on where you choose the colour from

Ginger

spoicy

hold please

lyxal

I took my own screenshot from the web archive

@Ginger *holds*

oh hey it's raining

Ginger

12:22

fun

lyxal

I wasn't allowed to write /shrug as the course of action

Because it's "unprofessional" and "could lose marks"

So why not make it professional to react to things with /shrug? /s

"hey boss the printer broke" "/shrug"

"and the users don't like the new site design either" "/shrug"

Ginger

alright, step 1 of 2 complete

I've gotten it to fix the color, now I just have to do the notifications

hmm

can somebody with a cached version put it in a gist?

lyxal

Don't got one of that though

Ginger

how did they look originally?

(both of them)

lyxal

Well the rep count I've linked above

Let me see if I have a screenshot of notification count

Ginger

12:31

did the search button's color also change?

lyxal

I don't know

But hopefully these points of data make a beautiful line for you

And that you'll be out of beta and releasing on time

Ginger

right

can somebody upvote a post of mine? I need to test the rep notifications

(and the inbox ones too if you can)

lyxal

@Ginger ping ping here's a thing.

PyGamer0

@Ginger hang on

lyxal

I have committed science™ (for the people who are still alive)

PyGamer0

12:35

@Ginger go to CGCC

Ginger

6

whoops

lyxal

Found this among my screenshots

Nice.

PyGamer0

Nice.

why no jelly answer or vyxal answer to this?

Razetime

because nobody wanted to write one?

lyxal

because I regexn't

@Razetime you're razetime.

PyGamer0

12:45

@Razetime can jelly do ~~regex~~ replace?

@lyxal pssst i got an idea: triadic atoms are forced dyadic atoms with the accumulator as an extra argument

triadic rules are just dyadic rules

Hello, World!

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A: "Hello, World!"

EEL - 88 Bytes =72 !>=101 !>=108 !>=108 !>=111 !>=44 !>=32 !>=119 !>=111 !>=114 !>=108 !>=100 !>=33 !. Explanation EEL (Easy Esoteric Lang) is an esoteric programming language created by me, based on Brainf*** but easy to manage, hence the name. Below is a brief description of the language. .-EE...

Ginger

alright

here is the result:

do you like

user21820

@hyper-neutrino: Did you get my ping in the Sandbox? I can't recall whether replying to an old chat-message generates a ping..

Wheat Wizard

It used to be the icon under it would become dark green.

Ginger

hmmmmmmmmm

that is more tricky

but I can do it

hold plees

Wheat Wizard

12:54

And there was a black border around the green rectangle.

Ginger

ah

here:

Bgil Midol

nice, but can you move the +20 to the right a little?

Razetime

@lyxal lol what does this mean

lyxal

And make it a tiny bit rounder.

Razetime

i might write a husk

Ginger

13:01

ok

lyxal

@Razetime it's something I don't get to say very often.

Razetime

alright

Wheat Wizard

@Ginger The border was not perfectly black but the the same color as the bar.

Ginger

oh

Razetime

i love random redesigns

Ginger

13:03

Wheat Wizard

I think it was also like 2px thick? Just a little bit thicker than what you have now.

Ginger

ok

hyper-neutrino

@user21820 it does 👍

Ginger

Bgil Midol

nice

Ginger

13:04

I think the color is still wrong for the border

also the border vanished when you hovered

New Posts

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Q: Damrau-Damrau distance

Given a list of the integers from \$1\$ to some \$n\$, give the minimum number of adjacent swaps required to put the list in ascending order. You will receive a list as input and should output a non-negative integer. You may if you wish choose to expect a list of the integers from \$0\$ to \$1\$...

code-golf array edit-distance

Razetime

@PyGamer0 ah now i see why

PyGamer0

why?

Razetime

because it needs printing to stdout midway through the process

PyGamer0

pretty sure jelly can do that

Razetime

13:10

and the escaping is quite difficult

PyGamer0

my fricking bf interpreter is not working

ato.pxeger.com/…

Razetime

using that is difficult. I think nick kennedy would be up to it if he wanted to

PyGamer0

i still dont understand how /// is tc

Oct 11, 2021 at 7:53, by pVC aecidiospore adduced

Razetime

/// is turing complete due to infinite storage and unbounded looping if there is no fixpoint

hyper-neutrino

that font is interesting

Ginger

13:13

alright

I think I have patched the repcounter

now, can someone mention me?

Razetime

@PyGamer0 well it is definitely a [] problem if it runs forever

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino github.com/blobject/agave

@hyper-neutrino wait the title is agave

the rest of the body looks like APL386

yeah it is

although you gotta admit

SegFaultPlus4

@ophact is that yea or nay, i'm not sure

PyGamer0

^ looks nice

Razetime

but does it have the APL

PyGamer0

13:17

no :(

thats why i use iosevka

Ginger

okay

I think I've done it

uploading script to a gist

PyGamer0

gist.github.com/PyGamer0/4437b887b68861fc4dcfbe25b7fae164 <- my iosevka build updated a lot

ophact

@SegFaultPlus4 neither, it's info

SegFaultPlus4

13:32

ok

Mayube

morning folks

PyGamer0

'nyi

SegFaultPlus4

it's 2:36PM

Mayube

Then as people say in one of my discord servers: Happy timezone, folks

SegFaultPlus4

what's a timezone

Mayube

13:40

a zone of time

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 so this is the cat program

just do print(input())

PyGamer0

@SegFaultPlus4 its echo...

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 ok then, echo(input())

Radvylf Programs

Did the worst I've ever done on wordle today

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms what did u get

i got a 5

so now i have 3 3s, 6 4s, 4 5s and 5 6s

Radvylf Programs

13:46

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SegFaultPlus4

you know you're a programmer when you get concerned when your quotes don't auto-close

reason: this happened to me

Radvylf Programs

Gross, auto-closing quotes are wack :p

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms you speak with the inelegance of a JS programmer

Radvylf Programs

Auto-closing quotes always just mess stuff up for me

Wheat Wizard

I find auto-closing quotes / parens to be incredibly annoying.

SegFaultPlus4

13:48

why

Wheat Wizard

Because it's really not tough to hit " twice instead of once, and autoclosing makes it rather hard to just type one of them.

PyGamer0

@WheatWizard yeah

lyxal

Wordle 286 4/6

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PyGamer0

this reminds me of something

Wheat Wizard

It just inserts stuff I didn't type into the program.

Radvylf Programs

13:50

And if you've got a big ugly mess of nested brackets, changing one or two is really hard with auto-closing brackets

SegFaultPlus4

@WheatWizard it's simple: ", , \B

@RadvylfPrograms you can't mess it up in the first place

PyGamer0

Jul 8, 2021 at 6:06, by PyGamer0

our teacher is now teaching; "In the latest version of Java, you write a opening curly brace and press enter, it will automatically put the closing curly brace"

@WheatWizard i hate it too

i disable it everywhere

SegFaultPlus4

@PyGamer0 i support this

Wheat Wizard

Java and intellij are merging into one entity.

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms how can you mess up exactly 1 bracket when everything always auto closes

PyGamer0

13:51

@WheatWizard *BlueJ

Wheat Wizard

In a couple of years they will begin to absorb github as well.

Radvylf Programs

@SegFaultPlus4 Never said I did. More just, if I need to insert more or change something to another type of brackets

lyxal

If you think auto-closing is bad enough, you've never tried it with copilot and vs code insiders all at once

Mayube

My language has auto-closing quotes. It reads 1 char then auto closes the quotes :D

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms that takes the same number of changes with or without auto closing

Radvylf Programs

13:52

E.g., sometimes when you type ) and there's a ) already after it, it just moves the cursor forward instead of typing anything

SegFaultPlus4

@lyxal \o

hold on let me go to replit

Wheat Wizard

The worst is in emacs when I have () and I try to delete the ) it just deletes the whole thing.

Radvylf Programs

I'm sure if I were to get used to auto-closing I'd be just as fast with it, but I've got six years of non-auto-closing muscle memory :p

lyxal

@lyxal copilot and auto closing usually works fine, but for some reason VSC insiders build doesn't like copilot that much, and it looks half completed when it isn't, and completions overlap what you already have.

Wheat Wizard

My work IDE autocloses and I've used it for two years. I am still not used to it.

SegFaultPlus4

13:55

@RadvylfPrograms this: "({{},{}},[{},{{}},{},{}]))"

this takes half as long with auto closing as with no auto closing

Radvylf Programs

How?

Wheat Wizard

How often do you type programs that are just sequences of brackets?

Radvylf Programs

You still need to hit the arrow keys to move past the closed brackets

It takes just as long

SegFaultPlus4

@RadvylfPrograms i'm glad you asked

Wheat Wizard

The really annoying thing is when I have X and I want (X) or [X].

pxeger

13:57

Is now a good time to mention that I use vim, which can do everything you're complaining about and never messes up?

SegFaultPlus4

give me a second

pxeger

(with the correct combination of plugins)

SegFaultPlus4

@pxeger @pxeger knows where it's at

pxeger

@WheatWizard fXysl)

Radvylf Programs

@pxeger What do you mean by "never messes up"?

Mayube

13:58

@pxeger vim users are like arch linux users

Radvylf Programs

My problem isn't with auto-closing "messing up", it's with auto-closing in the first place

@Mayube Of which pxeger is, unfortunately, one

Wheat Wizard

@pxeger That doesn't work if X is large which is ... most of the time.

Mayube

@RadvylfPrograms Can't be, he hasn't told me 7 times since logging on

pxeger

@RadvylfPrograms Because of the separation and existence of Insert mode and Normal mode, I always know whether I'm inserting (in which case I get autoclose) or deleting or navigating (in which case I don't)

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